I haven't watched south park for ages, is it still good or did it go full Simpsons?

I haven't watched south park for ages, is it still good or did it go full Simpsons?

we are 3 episodes in and kenny hasn't made an appearance, even as a background character

the long overarching story telling apparatus only works when you have long episodes or you release the entire season to binge it. right now south parks feels like a 3 hour movie that releases 20 minute bites of it every 7 days. wait for the season to end

not worth the watch right now

It's even better.

Kenny was in episode 2 for like a second when the girls were handing out breakup letters. He got broken up with.

As for you describing this season as a 3 hour movie, I kind of had that thought the other day. Last season they had a different plot each week but also slightly had a season long theme and references to previous episodes. This season they are going full on one season long story.

It is now a painfully unfunny chore to watch now.

I felt the past two season were awfully unfunny. This season is better. Don't like the season long arcs, though.

Any non Kenny or Butters episode sucks now..

The lack of Kenny in this season already made me drop it.

No, but this season's pretty bad.

I miss when the series was more self contained.

what was the last good episode?

imo it was butters bottom bitch

It's very different from the old episodes, but it's still a good show. You should start with season 19, because that's where the chronological timeline starts.

>full Simpsons
No.
No show can fall this much like the Simpsons did.

It's not as original anymore, but not as terrible as the Simpsons has been for a decade now.

i really liked you are not yelping.
but maybe because i own a restaurant

VR episode was great.

I think its good, they're trying new things and said new things do not work all the time, but its funny enough to me

This season and last have that kind of continuity you'd see in a show like Arrested Development. I don't really like this in a cartoon in which I want episodes to be self-contained, and it's quite risky. It's build up, build up, build up, and if it doesn't tie together with a funny punchline, then it's a waste.

Last season for example had a really stupid uneventful ending.

I'd still recommend watching though. If they weren't experimenting with the show, maybe it really would be Simpsons level garbage, and maybe they wouldn't have the drive to be creative.

For this season, wait to watch it until it's over. No point in starting now and having to wait another week to see an episode when they're all ending on cliff hangers.

Hasnt been good for over a decade

For a very long time now South Park has been pretty topical and referential, for more than half the series it's been like that. The big difference between South Park now and South Park then is the absurd degree it takes the lampooning of the topical issues it covers and just how much hyperbole it uses. If absurdity is your thing, the show is still just fine and I'd bet you could enjoy it. If not, well, you might be better off watching earlier seasons if you want to watch South Park that badly. Personally I like it and laugh at just how ridiculous it is.

>they wouldn't have the drive to be creative.
I think this is them being uncreative
Its just 1 idea, 1 long episode with repeating jokes

That's the thing with South Park, it changed. A lot of people complain about episodes not being "top kek le randum" anymore but you gotta realize that after 19 fucking seasons at some point the writers are getting older, just like you are.

The show still talks to me, in another way. Now I'm 30 and can pretty much identify with stuff such as going grocery shopping, just getting a bit of stuff and ending up with 80 bucks to pay, only to get asked for more money to support whatever.

Same with the gentrification of old neighbourhoods that eventually lead to pushing the people that used to lived there, out, while some hipster pretentious bullshit pseudo restaurants and shops get there.

It talks to me, in a different way, because I'm a different person now, just like Matt and Trey are.

South Park has changed, no one is forcing you to keep watching it. Get over it.

Good. Now say "MY VAGGGGIIINNNAAA"

Yeah, fair enough.

I think it's ridiculous how quickly they churn out episodes. When I first heard that I thought it was disappointing. Banking on maybe a weeks time to do a good episode? The fuck is that? It's so unnecessary.

I'd hate to be an animator on that show.

Even when South Park is at its worst, it's still better than any other adult animated cartoon.

It went full hardcore liberal

I like the new season this far. The end of episode 3 made me excited about the next.

It's stagnating in some parts. Last season was a long drag.

It won't approach Simpsons level of shittiness though.

Nothing can ever match the Simpsons top notch quality and then the nose dive to the bottom of the shit pile.

Groening you whore. Just end the series already.

Instead of subtle dry humor with some social jabs it now substitute humor with sarcasm and Homer DINDU NUFFIN BAD

rick and morty is better than south park

>Groening you whore. Just end the series already.
you are some special kind of retard, aren't you?

You may think that now, but give it a few more seasons and the quality will run out.

I stopped liking it when it introduced the stories that span over many episodes. The show also feels very tired in general and Im tired of the "le today we learned X" speech at the end. Despite them being self aware about that, its still shit.
Cant be arsed with the new episodes at all.

it stopped to be funny. like they decided "well, we can't compete with Family Guy on that so fuck it"

now it's 200% about politics and latest trends

>I think this is them being uncreative
>Its just 1 idea, 1 long episode with repeating jokes

they are literally incorporating things from real life from TWO DAYS BEFORE AIR DATE into the plot

it's pretty impressive IMO

Implying it hasn't been about latest trends for years.
Do. You remember gay fish?

I was with you until your last 2 sentences.

> "le today we learned X"

When was the last time that happened?

I like the stuff with the kids, and Gerald's story line has been pretty gud so far. But the campaign shit isn't making me laugh. It feels like a distraction, that they're just forcing it in because we're in an election season, and they're probably just holding onto it in case anything funny comes up IRL with it.

In the last couple episodes Garrison doesn't even feel quite like Garrison. I get that he's channeling Trump, but eh.

> making fun of SJW for a whole season
> hardcore liberal

your a moron.
Kenny has shown.

He is just in same place as cartman the girl.

hes to poor to have a phone and internet and shit. so he is default "dead" to other kids

god your slow

>hes to poor to have a phone and internet and shit. so he is default "dead" to other kids

oh shit, you're right.

i hope they make this a plot point. sounds funny.

>I was thinking again about how women are just as funny as men. And then I realized that the only way to really be sure is to see if African-Americans think they are funny… Because black laughs matter.
>I don't get it
>Yes.. you do.

come on - that was pretty funny

It doesn't matter how current the subject matter is if it's not entertaining.

They got a bit too far up their own ass with the social commentary. Satire is good, but only as long as you don't forget to make actual jokes. Ep 2 had almost none.

Bojack, Rick and Morty and Archer are all better than South Park

why's it gotta be a competition - it's not like cartoon comedy is a zero-sum game

>get over it
MUHY VUHGIHNAH

No, because it's still being made by the same two people while the Simpsons creative staff has changed nearly entirely

And ironically that's exactly why The Simpsons has been on Zombie mode for more than half of its run.

Bojack is good, but it's best comedy doesn't ever come close to South Park's. Rick and Morty is closer, but covers much nerdier topics than SP usually does. Arch is just shit so I'm not sure why you're bringing it up.

Last year was a perfect balance between individual episodes and a season long storyline

This year definitely is relying to much on the storyline... There should not be the feeling of a "cliffhanger" and "wanting to see what happens next" on South Park every fucking week. Just give me some fucking laughs man

I don't think that's ironic, but I agree they are in Zombie mode.

It's really shit except for the trump bashing. That's spot on, and I can'ts stop laughing every time.

>show mocks establishment
>show becomes establishment
Yawn.

I learned something today. [political opinion held by people making cartoon]
Ha ha [people who hold differing political opinion] are stupid and wacky, look at the stupid things they say

>audience of balding, paunchy, middle-aged men goes apeshit

It's funny because Twitter is a thing that's in the news. I notice things that are in the news. This show really makes you think.

Hot take coming in: religion is kind of weird, when you think about it.

You're not allowed to care about [bad thing], because [other bad thing] is happening somewhere else. If you care about [bad thing] you're letting [other bad thing] happen!!!!

I find it funny that kids that were still semen when season 3 was out are bitching about it

It's full Zombie Simpsons, imo.

Instead of writing 10 episodes where the boys get into shenanigans and confront the current political/pop culture climate in the process, they make 3 episodes and stretch them into a 10 episode story arch. These episodes barely have any jokes and it's 99% "this is the message for today".

Unwatchable.

And yet you watch it enough to form that opinion.

Really makes you think...

Wow, what a well though out argument.

I watched the show for almost 2 decades. I'm not gonna write it off as "bad" until I've watched a few new episodes to properly judge it.

Millennials, folks.

ha ha nothing gets past this user. ha ha, hooo boy ha ha ha

To me, this whole season seems like one long-ass meta joke. There are a few main "jokes" the season relies on.
1)the member berries and Randy's reaction to them. It's a secret jab at their fans who whine about how South Park used to be good. It's also a commentary on the incessant reboots, and the regressive political opinions that have surfaced.
2)The Troll. Pretty straightforward; they themselves are trolling their audience
3)forced drama. Most of it centering around Cartman. along with completely altering his character, Cartman's arch depicts him being hopelessly entangled in Social media to the point where his whole identity is a faked SJW persona.
Even though we know Cartman is an evil little lump that hates Jews and makes fun of disabled, people on social media can similarly cover up their shittiness. Its also a reference to how dramatic everyone makes social media seem, and the importance that's placed on it.

The forced drama is also a part of the trolling, probably because of the frustration of the creators who want to do something new (the continuous arches, other new story telling devices), despite their fans constant insistence on returning to the "old days". But much like Randy, those same faggots are still content to eat some member berry pie because it makes them feel good, I.e. Consume the latest forced-appeal crap that creators have shat out to appease them (as evidenced by lack of SP ratings decline despite fans saying it sucks, or box office numbers for nth degree reboots)

4)pretty straightforward political commentary on the Trump/Clinton debacle

That is my take on the season. The jokes aren't that funny, sure, but the reason South Park is bad is because you MADE it bad. Viewers dictate what is popular, and what is popular or demanded by democratic systems is supposed to go. It's America's fault entertainment sucks, and America's fault we have such shitty candidates. Just listen to every line Randy has in this season, and it's all there.

This. I was actually waiting for the jokes to come but they never did. I barely laughed at season 19 and not once at season 20 so far so I've dropped it like I did Family Guy and Simpsons.

>the reason South Park is bad is because you MADE it bad
it's my fault a television cartoon is bad.

i'm sorry, multimillionaires trey parker and matt stone. i'll try and do better next time, pls dont go ;_;

STUPID FANS

WATCH CARTOONS PROPERLY

>cartoon has an entire season about crazy adults caring too much about media

ha ha, genius. *kissing fingers like a chef* mwah, brilliant.

it had a couple years of just embarrassingly horrible episodes

Especially when they'd do episodes which were 100% topical humor about some recent event

but last year and this year have been good, even though making fun of sjw shit is low hanging fruit, they have thought of some inventive ways to do it

>dat projection
Holy shit dude.

>looking back fondly through meticulously-curated cartoon show DVD season collections
>carefully remove a tome from the shelf
Mmm. Terry Schiavo. Masterful parody. Epic.
>worshipfully replace on shelf
>ponder the morality of said parable over candle-lit chickie tendies din-dins

literally everyone and anything that disagrees with me is a cartoonish stereotype. really makes you think

...

ITT: butt hurt trump supporters

i'm going to make my cartoon bad ON PURPOSE. take that, people i apparently don't like i guess!!!

>or did it go full Simpsons?

South Park rules the world if that's what you are implicating.

>audience of balding, paunchy, middle-aged men goes apeshit

This is a disturbing observation. I'm pretty sure you know why.

South Park doesn't even rule Cred Forums.

Made me chuckle

>South Park doesn't even rule Cred Forums.

Who'd want to rule this shithole anyways?

Besides moo2

the same attitude weezer tried to take over the shittiness of that really shitty album they recorded then? makes sense.

The continuity thing would be perfectly fine if there were any actual jokes.

Fursecution Fox has more than the usual difficulty when it comes to taking a hint.

Didn't that season end with the PC frat guy being the hero, though?

I don't know why people are saying it isn't funny, I've been consistently losing my shit these past three episodes.

>Cartman get laid

It's ok. Still funny but not what it was when Chef was still around. It's still watchable unlike family guy and Simpsons which have become total shit

I enjoy it but hope that the Trump stuff will get less biased over time.

>archer
I still don't understand why people love this show. It's ok but it's pretty mediocre

How is it biased?

every other thing was ok, but saying bad things about THIS thing is biased and bad. boooo, shame on south park boooooooo

I watch South Park for the plot now, not jokes. It's honestly been the best sci-fi show for about two years now.

I've never seen a show make a turnaround this strong and switch into a completely different style of storytelling in a completely different genre.

they attack him constantly while hillary has just as many, if not more, things to mock or make light of.

They do shitty "xD South Park just mocked X*" episodes and all the normies fucking love it.
And occasionally they'll do some whacked out episode with absurd subject matter; the ones that they really enjoy making, I think; the ones like Monty Python where half the audience just sits there thinking "what?"; and everyone hates it.

* X = whatever is in the news that month

This.

>sci-fi
what?

Hmmm. Methinks "the truth is in the middle", no? Hm. really makes you think

>It's a secret jab at their fans
>It's also a commentary on the incessant reboots
You can't have your cake and eat it too. South Park has been going for what, 20 (!) fucking seasons?
The dead horse's been beaten up so much there's a well on the site of its carcass.

Last season was comedically challenged and this one is just a plain bore. Being timely and precise in its satire can't be substitutes for not being fun, at the risk of becoming the butt of their own joke or plainly ignoring what made South Park good.

>The jokes aren't that funny, sure, but the reason South Park is bad is because you MADE it bad.
You have somewhat of a point there in that it's the current social climate is contributing to what SP we get but to blame it on everyone and "democracy" is skirting the issue as well as dismissing responsibility entirely. A cartoon in its adulthood made by 2 rich guys -isn't- a democracy. They can do what they please, artistically and financially, they just chose this crap.

First two episodes had me worried but episode 3 was great. Can't wait for the next one, this will be another good season. I also really like the overarching story format.

I didnt think South Park had really declined in quality until the tweek and Craig episode last season. I had a few chuckles over it and went back and watched the original Tweek vs Craig episode from 10 or so season back.

It was a goddamn night and day difference, zero CURRENT EVENT jokes, the kids were doing some stupid kid shit, and the tongue in cheek joke was about shop and home ec. Laughed my ass off the entire episode. Afterwards I realized how unfunny South Park has been.

>having to wait a week to find out who is naming the Jew

Who is he?

Hillary is portrayed like a retarded sock-puppet

Now it's just confusing political salad and not funny.