Why is modern horror so shit

dude stds lmao

dude hysteria lmao

dude depression lmao

dude ptsd lmao

>I'm a pleb who can't enjoy a creative film without finding ways to meme about it to my friends on the internet

dude hell lmao

dude i approach every movie hermeneutically lmao, the thread

dude BANE? lmao

People aren't willing to have suspension of disbelief and escapism as much as 70's, 80's, and early 90's audiences had.

Plus the writing and direction is a lot to be desired nowadays. Look at 1982's Alone in the Dark; that shit was a horror classic and even a dark satire on slashers and how we view the mentally ill. There's no sense of building things up and actually making audiences feel uncomfortable, dreading the fate of the characters, understand what makes the villain tick, or the complete and utter helplessness in viewing.

Even special effects are a lot to be desired. I really miss practical effects in their hey-day of the 80's and early 90's. They were limited with the tech that they had, but still pulled off some badass stuff that holds up today. Too much emphasis on CGI and retarded jump-scares.

They're all trying too hard, basically. Real fear is primal and simple, there's nothing intellectual about it. Modern horror filmmakers are terrified of being "predictable," or "cliche," or doing something that's been done before.

So instead of relying on the basic, tried-and-true shit that actually frightens people, they just try to show off their uniqueness as a screenwriter or a director. We end up with a mess of plot twists that "change the rules" and "yank the rug out from under you" so many times that you just don't give a fuck about what you're watching anymore.

Or worse yet, like OP is implying, they try to intellectualize it with some half-assed metaphor for "the TRUE horror of stds/depression/whatever." These films make the least sense to me; by nature they're too stupid and unrealistic to function as a serious commentary on any of those themes, and then they're also too pretentious and academic to actually work as horror.

They keep trying to re-invent the wheel, to the point that they forget what the wheel was supposed to do in the first place

It Follows was fantastic ya pillock.

Exactly.

I just rewatched 1987's The Stepfather last weekend. The opening scene itself is disturbing as fuck and something we don't see in today's horror. Nothing to really set the tone.

Cred Forums even mentioned this in an earlier thread about how creature movies are nowhere near as good. I want a tense thriller about a ghoul or demon or anything that's not a vampire or zombie. Hell even a good werewolf flick would be a treat.

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Anyone who uses dude lmao to describe a movie is an unintelligent faggot.

dude [...] lmao

dude creepy clown lmao

Kids need to learn about std's and the dangers of unprotected sex though.

The kid did nothing wrong.

I hate this. The original Pennywise was brightly colored and aside from the sharp teeth every now and then looked like he could be a regular clown. Which is disturbing enough as it is.

This? this is trying too hard.

Is this supposed to be our new Pennywise. This is kek shit.

you haven't watched enough movies, obviously.

dude can't see lmao

It's more disturbing the original way, because a normal-looking clown is meant to attract and amuse children, lure them in. This one looks like it was designed specifically to frighten children, which makes it... not frightening

looks like he belongs in an ICP video

At least they got a experienced and talented directo- oh wait...

Spot-on.

dude gender neutral rape lmao

That looks like shit. The book describes pennywise as basically a normal clown, but that smells bad, and has sharp teeth.

I agree that all of these were bad.

It Follows felt like a low quality student film, the VVitch felt so rushed and shallow and had no depth, and Babadookie was literally a home alone movie but this time the kid had autism and a catapult.

Mama was pretty good up until they started showing the ghost completely

That film was truly horrifying.

Is this any good? I don't need responses from shitty contrarians who dislike babadook and it follows btw.

>the VVitch felt so rushed and shallow and had no depth, and Babadookie was literally a home alone movie but this time the kid had autism and a catapult.
plebs

Horror was always shit. You mean to tell me that Jason goes to Washington is a great movie?

Babun Tarisan is that you? Go poo on a beach you Indian motherfucker.

Why don't you just ask RottenTomatoes, sheep

I thought it was better than expected.
Certainly not a classic but a fun horror with good effects and cast.

why is modern WESTERN horror so shit****

pic related modern korean horror kino

*Takes Manhattan, you piece of shit.
And your example to define 'always' and your shit opinion about a genre is a film from the late 80's? How pathetic, but what else to expect

Also, JTM isn't a great movie, but still is very misunderstood and underrated.

I blame horror audiences.

Most horror movies that get a lot of praise and have a big fanbase are usually shit. Friday the 13th and most other "classic" horror films are fun, but terribly made movies. From them came a weird subculture of horror fans that didn't care how shitty a movie was as long as it pandered to the stuff they wanted. Horror films that are actually good and also appreciated by normies (The Exorcist, The Shining, etc.) are typically treated different by the media for some reason. This divide means that no one can agree about what makes a good horror movie, and studios are confused about what to make.

what?

is this another gender studies thing where they look everywhere for "phallic objects" and shit

That wasn't about PTSD bonerhead.

>le sheep
Yeah, totally. Don't be sheep, people! Listen instead to the high minds with large cinematic knowledge of Cred Forums

Fuck you. I bet your a capeshit faggot

>tfw the blu-ray rip will be out in 3 days

Or just watch the movie and form your own fucking opinion.

Post genuinely good horror Kino please

>Most horror movies that get a lot of praise and have a big fanbase are usually shit. Friday the 13th and most other "classic" horror films are fun, but terribly made movies
Name them, cretin

I wonder how many on Cred Forums picked up on the larger satire and context of It Follows.

Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm St., all the classic slasher pics where the couple making out in the car, all of those movies were morality tales about the evils of teenagers having sex. Stay a virgin or you'll die horribly. Ooga Booga.

Probably not many.

No man, it was quite deliberate, Ridley Scott and HR Giger both wanted the imagery to be disturbingly sexual. It's literally a movie about aliens that use humans against their will for purposes of reproduction. Rape is a theme here

>Friday the 13th and most other "classic" horror films are fun, but terribly made movies
Just some of F13 are terribly made. You believe in an easy popular meme

I named one, and thought I implied the others well enough. The eighties are usually regarded as a golden age by horror fans and most of the popular horror movies that came out at the time are shit movies. Fun to watch, but shitty from a quality standpoint. Do you really think the Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, and Halloween franchises are good as a whole and should be seen as standard for quality of the horror genre?

wow, so deep
you're real smart, man

Liking any of those films is full pleb
There hasn't been a good horror movie is about a decade. Nothing can hold a candle to anything even from the top 20 horror films of the 80s

Why does everyone on Cred Forums hate it follows so much? I thought it was one of the better films of 2015 and was one of the first horror movies that really scared me ij a while.

>looking everywhere for "phallic objects"
Are you retarded
The Alien is born through rape and is a giant monster made of dicks

No, we did. It wasn't exactly subtle, it's literally about a sexually transmitted murder-monster. It's just that I'm not terribly interested in a snarky meta-commentary on horror films. I'd rather see a horror film.

This is the shit I'm talking about, the entire genre has gone up its own ass. Horror films are made by horror nerds who only want to make films ABOUT horror films. Why am I supposed to care, exactly? Were you actually entertained, scared, thrilled, or enlightened in any way by that premise? Or does the enjoyment come from patting yourself on the back when you figure out what the filmmaker is "trying to say?"

absolutely loved the babadook, found it really tense, disturbing, rather touching, and a great metaphor for sorrow/mental illness

>I thought it was one of the better films of 2015 and was one of the first horror movies that really scared me ij a while.

embarrassing, tbqh

It Follows was great, it could have used some work but the conceptualization was fantastic and the execution was pretty good.

I understand this is a contrarian board but there's no reason to be such a faggot.

It was pretty good, easily one of the best horrors in the decade and top 30 of the last year. Ignore pretty much all the memehates of Cred Forums and things get clearer

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I agree with OP for the most part, but I actually liked that one too and I don't think it belongs in the same category. It shouldn't have been marketed as a straight horror film, it was really more of an "Eraserhead" type of thing.

It Follows had plenty of scary moments. The old woman at the school. The tall guy emerging from the shadows. The woman pissing herself in the kitchen.

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Dumb "dude ... lmao" posters

for you lmao

>The woman pissing herself in the kitchen.
lmao

i truly cannot understand how anyone thinks this was a good film.

Well, you're a tripshit after all. Not much is expected.
Still, we're sure you could manage suicide

>necrophiliac goth girls

sauce?

because it is dumbass

It wasn't about stds. It was about innocence lost.

What horror movie would you recommend to somebody that really likes shlocky stuff like Return of the Living Dead, Re-Animator, and Evil Dead?

>being this upset you have shit taste
lmao, top cuckold

You're Next.

Anything else with Brian Yuzna, maybe Lucio Fulci, Brain Dead/Basket Case.

one of the very few actually spoopy movies I've seen

that and jacob's ladder, don't look now, the vanishing, and for some reason hellraiser

anyone have any hidden gems for me?

That movie did shit to my mind. It was just way too fucked up. The guy who made this movie needs a psychological evaluation.

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Shit torture porn

yeah, no

Yeah, yes

You probably didn't even watch it then, potato

can you guys recommend some good crime horror movies?

Batman v Superman

Angel heart
Jacob's ladder
Lord of illusions
Midnight meat train
Prince of darkness
8mm

Fuck off

dude insane asylums lmao

Just finished this 5 minutes ago. Very good movie. A+ lighting

I'm a little boy who likes berries and cream!

Why are you angry, tho?

Dude there's a man in back of this place lmao

>Doesn't know the difference between horror and thriller

Dude lmao

>ptsd
you haven't seen this movie, have you?

>literally half the movie is a girl being beaten and tortured
>muh deep edgy torture porn
>2deep4u xD

Kill yourself

It was- and will continue being- too deep for you, yes.

The Gift and Sleep Tight are amazing

>hysteria
Are you retarded?

It's well-established already to the connoisseurs of this board that it was all in her mind

>dude stds lmao
that's what you get for trying to find le deep meaning on everything you fucking autist

because you're part of the cancer that shits up Cred Forums

now go neck yourself

I'm not sure I get what you're saying, friend. Care to explain further?