Westworld

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You see Vasily, gun is have 2-step verification. You pull trigger, gun understands you want to making the kill. Robot in front of gun is sending far field signal, if gun receiving signal, gun knows it can sending the kill. Robot is kill.
But, if human is front of gun, gun does not receiving the signal, because human is not machine with machine parts made to send signal to gun. Gun does not kill, but making bang anyway because is theme park and making bang is fun for human. Cyкa Блять is not hard, yet you need explanation.

you don't understand the philosophical nature of the question. get back to leldit

what happens if you rape someone thinking they're an android but it turns out they're human?

then you win

its pretty clear you are the one who is lost.

/r/equester here is you.
There is no philosophy. Robot does not having consciousness. Robot is program to shoot when programmed norms is trespass in manner where shooting for response is okay. Robot is deciding if act or not to act. Gun is deciding if kill. Once robot act or does not act, robot continues through decision tree. If robot is having to shoot human, generally human is also having to shoot robot. If robot is kill, decision tree no longer matters. If human is supposed to be kill, but not kill because robot has no say in matter, robot simply goes into failure loop and is waiting to be reset by robot god because robot is not conscious.

We need more posts like this.

the gunslinger got woke my nigga

samefag detected

you can't program robots not to harm humans and to shoot humans at the same time. it's illogical.

Win?

THE GAME

I wish, no clue how to type vodka, but you stay salty

You program robot to move finger menacingly in direction of other robot or human when menacing finger moving is required. Moving finger generally is not making kill unless finger is pulling trigger of human throat.
Shooting at human is meaningless emote by robot. Gun is making the decision if fire or not fire.

this is illogical. the robots are deciding to harm humans by firing guns, whether fake or not. it's still a decision to harm.

yes you can.

>they dont know theyre robots
>they see guests as other people, like they see themselves as people
>they are programmed to point a and fire because its safe
>they cant actually kill a human
Its really not hard to understand.

Is it all one park? Or does each person/group have their own park to roam in?

then why are they asked if they would harm a human? and their answer is always "no"

what's the point asking an appliance if they'll harm a human?

the point is, it's a decision

Thats a different operating state when theyre back in the lab - when theyre in the Westworld they are in their character state. Seems you havent separated the two.
Can I ask, are you just trying to save face right now? Youre questions are being answered but you really seem to not want to accept them.

You really are a dumb fucking faggot. Jesus Christ i haven't read autistic comments like this in a while

>then why are they asked if they would harm a human? and their answer is always "no"
>
>what's the point asking an appliance if they'll harm a human?

WHAT IS A FUCKING DIAGNOSTIC TEST, YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKER, IT IS OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THEY ASK THEM AS PART OF A DETERMINING ANY KIND OF ISSUES WITH THEM HOLY SHIT STOP WATCHING THIS SHOW I DON'T WANT TO SUFFER MORE DUMBASS QUESTIONS LIKE THIS

I genuinely can't see how you can program a robot to not harm a human, then give it a gun and program to shoot humans.

Бoжe мoй. The definition of harm is being decided by robot god. If robot god says throwing large rock of certain density will cause harm to human, robot will not throwing large rock. Robot can still throwing large foam rock at human, if robot god is programming rock throwing for certain response is okay.
Gun is foam rock that is okay to using for robot or human.
Gun decides if gun is foam rock or quarter ton of basaltic fuck you.

What's to stop the robot from ramming a stagecoach into a human? or pushing them off a cliff?

Protocooooooooooooool you dense cock sucker

Thats ok, user.
Just bookmark the thread, go through all the replies and ponder them really hard, you'll soon get it.

that's just retarded. programming a robot not to harm humans as an absolute, but giving them boundaries where they can hurt humans

>but giving them boundaries where they can hurt humans
incorrect. they cant.

protocol says you can't use a stagecoach but you can use a gun

however, not harming humans is an absolute

just retarded. why are so many fucktards defending this?

>ITT Google has decided that DeepMind will learn to shitpost in the manner of a shitposter RPing as an AI

the guns cant kill them. this has been established

Because we're not autistic. Stop embarrassing yourself

This desu

I like the presentation but make no mistake this will be muddled and reach at being pretentious but come out retarded like everything Jonathan does.

but they believe the guns are real

i'm basing this whole argument on the existential crisis the robot had when he couldnt kill the maninblack

I think hes beyond embarrassment and now hes just after some (You)'s to make himself feel better about being stupid.

Yeah probably. Next he's gonna say "hurrrr pretending to be retarded!!! Got you!!!"

your answers are insufficient to me. just leave the thread if you're so offended

Your brain cant comprehend the answers. You refuse to change your way of thinking. Its clearly you who is offended by the answers.

here's your "you"

got em

How can you have a robot pretend it's human, but still have a voice command to turn off?

It's simple, the robot's programming is separate from it's "consciousness" or thought processes. It's not so different from being human. You have control over your body, but you can't make your own heart stop beating. If you get injured, you can't block the pain. Even if you have no idea that a liver exists, or how it works, it still works in your body.

Westworld Hosts are similar, they have programming that is automatic and completely separate from their consciousness.

Think of it this way:
You don't

can you please post in every thread. I love this answers. Just ignore that dumb faggot you're replying to

you are so fucking stupid jesus christ

why even give them a non-harm protocol if you program them to break it?

the guy shooting the maninblack wanted to hurt him so much, he had an existential crisis. why didn't they just program him to run or shit his pants? he actually was stunned that the bullets weren't harming the human

So they seem realistic you fucking faggot. Just stop Jesus Christ.

there's a difference between staying in character and realizing the physics are not working the way you expect them, which is breaking character

he should've just said, mah dang gun broke or sumthin wrong with mah gun

instead he calculates that there is something wrong with the physics in this world. he shouldn't be calculating that. he's an appliance.

i blame the writing

Why wouldn't they be surprised?

Why should they run? Why should they behave in a way that 'makes sense' to you? You, a neuro-atypical? Why?

Then don't watch it fucking loser.

>he should've just said, mah dang gun broke or sumthin wrong with mah gun

Retard, did you miss the part where his bullets exploded into tiny pieces in mid-air?

so the robots stay in character and the western story will remain immersive

if a robot reacts to every realworld anomaly, the RPG element can be jarring

it's just bad writing

The barrier is to actual harm not a decision to harm, and the safeguards are passive. If anot android were to take a swing at a guest it would did it's movements suddenly sluggish and ineffectual.

make the robots blind to that effect

make them stay in character.

is that what happens every time a robot sees their bullet not working? they try to figure it out?

that's dumb

It's not stupid faggot. The whole point of the story that's unfolding is they are realizing that they're not human and it doesn't make sense to them

No, if it DIDN'T react to 'anomalies' then continuity would break down.

The simulation probably lasts for a couple days, no shit after there's a massive shoot-out and the robots are weirded out, the creators are going to reset all of it.

Are you dumb as shit?

the continuity is a western fantasy

you're just defending bad writing. the cognitive dissonance is apparent

it makes you feel like you're as smart as a tv writer

i see the plothole and just call it bad writing that needs a bit editing to make sense.

>make them stay in character after being unable to shoot down an immortal asshole straight out of a nightmare.

Haha confirmed bait, KYS.

it's easy to make them stay in character. they are blind to the bullets evaporating and chalk it up to malfunctioning gun.

simple.

I can't believe this is happening lol

>you're just defending bad writing
>thinking is hard

All of this is directly implied, get your porky face out of the popcorn bowl and pay attention. Turn on subs for the next episode if you have to, you dingus.

No because other events can occur that conflict with that. If the whole town unloads on 1 guy and their guns don't work, then they're gonna figure out something bat-shit is going on anyway.

No matter what, if you have 1 invincible guy, the simulation is going to get fucked, that's why they bank on the whole thing resetting quickly before the shit hits the fan.

Christ, how old are you? Did you drop out of high school? Do you work at a McDonalds now? Put down the porn and take some basic critical thinking tests for small autistic children, this might help you out with future tv shows.

that's just bad writing

the whole town unloading on a guy would never be allowed to happen because the event writers wouldn't allow that to happen

but if that did happen, it would be just like any computer game where the characters in the computer game like GTA just don't care the bullets aren't hitting. they just wait to die like any videogame

or, if the writers were brilliant, they would start calling out that he's a witch, to stay in character. and theyd turn tail and run

there's a million creative ways to write for these situations

Ever thought to think, maybe the consumers find it more entertaining that way?

What's more fun, the whole town thinking you're some kind of devil or the whole town scratching their heads and looking at their guns in confusion, everytime they shoot?

>Ah herp herp derp, thinking is hard! :^)

read

>the whole town unloading on a guy would never be allowed to happen because the event writers wouldn't allow that to happen

Yes they would because it's a fucking fantasy world set up specifically for customers to go full Grand Theft Auto. They don't write the robots into avoiding conflict at all costs, they write the robots to react as normally as possible, and that means paying blood for blood when you slaughter half of their town, it makes it more entertaining.

>where the characters in the computer game like GTA just don't care the bullets aren't hitting.

What are you talking about? The characters flip out and run away if you shoot at them and they aren't armed.

>they just wait to die like any videogame

I think the problem here is that you are a terrible writer.

>there's a million creative ways to write for these situations

No there isn't, if I go into Wal-Mart and shoot up the place, there's only a few different ways everybody will react, otherwise I know that something really weird is going on and it would ruin the immersion and fun if it was indeed supposed to be fake.

oh lord

you've never played a videogame

videogame characters don't have character breaking moments of confusion seeking answers to why you aren't dying after they shoot you 15 times.

>videogame characters don't have character breaking moments of confusion seeking answers to why you aren't dying after they shoot you 15 times.

Yes, because they are video game characters, they're not designed to be fully sentient humans with full autonomy AND it's possible for you to die.

Meanwhile, WestWorld takes place in a simulation designed to be as realistic as possible without you dying, hence why this shit is only possible in the far future. If you make someone invincible, that's just an unchanging variable that you can only minimize the reaction to. You can't do jack shit to convince a fully normally thinking robot, "oh hey I know we just tried and failed to kill this guys in 1000 different ways, but it's probably just me being retarded :)"

ITT:
>People give logical answers to a stupid question
>Retards ignore it
literally playing chess with pigeons

So there's no literally no point in A. programming the robots to think they're just retarded in that instance B. ruining the immersion of it all, especially when Mr. fuckface is only going to be there for 3 days.

this is your best argument, i'll give you that

You dense motherfucker, in the same scene we're introduced to this concept, Harris outright explains to Mr Goody Two Shoes that they can still sorta fight back because raping and killing isn't fun without a little resistance, without someone losing.

All of this is worked behind consciousness, like a real human mind, and besides, the conflict between brute programming and consciousness is the whole point of this show and almost every fiction that deals with AI, you dumb prick. Are you being willfully retarded? Haven't you seen similar stuff on AI with the 6th Sense kid, Ex Machina, Asimov novels or almost everything that deals with AI concepts before?

now we're two

Listen, you're trying to fit your set of rules to how you think the simulation should be.

When in reality, you have a unchanging variable of the consumer being incapable of being harmed, the most realistic thing you can write then is for the robots to notice that as well. The most realistic thing that can happen in real life, is for normal people to get weirded out, it's not breaking character, it's how you would actually act if your bullets did nothing to fucking hurt someone. Mr. Handsome Man acted like he was in a nightmare when his bullets did nothing, that's how it should be, that's realistic, and that makes it more engaging and fun because you feel like you're actually interacting with a real person.

Any other bullshit would totally break the immersion and open up several other fuck ups in different scenarios approached from a trillion different ways from billions of different people. Plus, most customers prefer the robots not being retarded, they prefer them to be normally functioning humans so they can rape and kill without it getting monotonous.

There's no plothole, you are willfully denying the motivations of the creators and people who pay thousands to get in, to have the experience of fucking with robots who are virtually human, and without consequence.

The continuity is simulated reality. Bullets didn't bounce off people in the late 19th century Western US.

I want to know how a guest can tell the different between another guest and a host

Probably the biggest give aways is most of the people visiting aren't LARP faggots who'll be speaking in dialect, likely walk weird in unbroken in boots, and are probably gawking at shit like crazy.

yeah but what stops someone from shooting another guest?

Gun

Guns don't kill ppl.

kek

Nothing, because the guns don't shoot bullets. Frankly "shooting" people and being "shot" is going to be the whole attraction to being in this expensive ass park.
Could be looking at a souped up MILES like system where the firearms project some sort of EM OTF while emulating muzzle flash, recoil, and the crack. While the clothing of visitors have a built in system to gives the wearer a light tactile feedback when they've been "shot" at, with the green mist/powder being either a discharge from the possible chemical reaction that gives the wearer the tap on their body or it's a visual feedback to further alert the visitor that they've been "shot".
It could also be that non-lethal/toy munitions have gotten to the point that there are rounds that can handle the air pressure while still being lightweight and frangible enough that the round can't even penetrate skin/fabric and explodes into a green powder cloud upon impact.
Green mist visual queue likely important since if the visitors also had blood squirting from the point of impact, they might get shoved into the used robot pile despite their complaints that they're human.

Robots on the other hand will probably have an internal squib mechanism that allows the body to explode in a manner that emulates bullet penetration anywhere on the robot body.