PORTLANDIA BTFO

PORTLANDIA BTFO
HOW WILL THESE TRANS-ANTAGONISTIC TRANS-MISOGYNISTS RECOVER

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>Recently, people in the Portland area noticed something was amiss based on the fairly unambiguous sign in the window of In Other Words that read, "Fuck Portlandia!" in large red letters, with smaller bullet points below reading, "Transmisogyny – Racism – Gentrification – Queer Antagonism – Devaluation of Feminist Discourse."

i hope they lay into that fuckin queer bookstore in the new season

I love when these people eat their own

That shows still on?

nothing will ever satisfy people with the victim mentality

fuck em

That'd be hilarious, but realistically they'll probably just find a new location and refrain from mentioning it
2 more years

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>Gentrification
This is a place with a "feminist bookstore". You don't get much more gentrified than that

Yeah and it's stayed consistently funny. It's no Stella but it's still pretty good.

Is Fred Armisen gay? Can an homos use their gaydar on him and see?

>"This show is bad"

Well, at least they're right.

Just for the wrong reasons.

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probably bi. he gets hot women still

>trying this incredibly hard to be edgy

I hope someone burns the place down

>Devaluation of Feminist Discourse

How can you devalue something that was worthless to begin with?

>wearing bolts in his neck to the Emmys

but why tho

>All these safe space buzzwords
Portlandia is great

youtube.com/watch?v=-DkslcOhytU

The series has always been shit, I'm glad Portland hipsters are eating their own. As unfunny as she is on the show, Sleater-Kinney is a based fucking band though.

>some nobody writes a pay-attention-to-me article

>whitest city in America
>only getting whiter
> a Marxist liberal arts college dropout Mecca filled with avant garde trust fund babies who hate being white or
This is why whites are made fun of

>Gentrification

Portland wouldn't be hipster paradise if it weren't for gentrification. are they seriously trying to act like that kind of thing is some kind of tragedy to them?

>gentrification displaces minorities, it's racist
>move to city because your ass wouldn't live there before gentrification and you like all the stupid artisenal shops and other ironic white 20-30 year olds
>complain about gentrification while paying rent to gentries and benefiting form the system you're against.

nothing more annoying that a white moderate liberal. they act like they're better than stormfags but they're not.

>Queer Antagonism

Like the the bad guy is a fag?

I will never understand why you guys hate Portlandia.

The show's fantastic. I dare you to find another show that shits on progressives as much as it does.

lrn2 reading comprehension. The article is neutral, and it's about the bookstore being anti-Portlandia.

They always been this way though. Why did it take so long for the owners of the bookstore to realize this?

>Gentrification
What's wrong with improving your city?

wow i have the exact opposite opinion. i love Portlandia but sleater-kinney are one of the more shittier bands around

>They also find Portlandia racially problematic, adding "Also: there are no Black people on Portlandia. ... Portland is white but it’s not that damn white." They continue on to explain that Black Lives Matter activists regularly use their space and that they have a Black Lives Matter sign in the window — which they allege producers asked them to take down during filming.

No it really is that white you fucking idiot. And the BLM activists that use your store are 100% guaranteed to be all white too.

>it's a problematic white activist thinks they live in a diverse, cultured city

>And the BLM activists that use your store are 100% guaranteed to be all white too.
Nah, I'm sure there's a few frizzy-haired mulattoes with 110 IQ's.

This.

I seriously don't understand.
Fred crossdressing as unbelievably hideous women is an ongoing joke in the show. He does it at least once per episode. How on earth did it take them 6 years to understand this?

Why can't Carrie-fu just become part of Documentary Now?

What are the right reasons?

the Portland Trailblazers were in an episode ;^]

>no black people on Portlandia
It's almost like they don't even watch the show

youtube.com/watch?v=V4lP689I39I

We're not dealing with the brightest of people here, user.

>portland being faggots
That's nothing new, they deserve to be nuked.

second season was meh but it's gotten much better.

>throw me the football. im gonna eat it

I imagine Portland is like most major American cities, the nice areas are predominantly white and the shitty areas are predominantly black and hispanic. From what little I've seen of the show, it seems to be set in nicer areas.

And judging by the upper middle class hipster vibe that the book store owner is giving out, I'm betting the store is in an extremely white area.

>The left are now openly attacking the left

They probably get the odd Affirmative Action community college professor.

Apparently he's a massive sociopathic cunt

The left has been attacking the left since the French Revolution. Liberalism is inherently self-destructive.

They always do. That's why they'll never win.

There aren't even really any shitty areas in Portland. The whole place is middle-class to upper-class white.
>now

Why did it take 5 seasons for them to get mad? I avoided this show for years because this one dumb nigga I knew liked it. Started it recently and the shit damn near had me in tears. I will admit I made a huge mistake skipping the show. It is so accurate to real life I can't handle it.

In a race to act the most offended, there are no winners.

>WAIT A MINUTE YOU WERE MAKING JOKES ABOUT ME!
Took them long enough.

>That's why they'll never win.

Rumor is he fucks a lot of women and is abusive/exploitative. Literally our guy.

I heard that too, but to be fair it was from his ex wife who is a Scientologist

I found season 6 to be the weakest yet.

Shoah listener?

>turning ghetto shit holes into crime free bustling areas is """"bad""""
Why are liberals so dumb?

There's a lot of underage users on Cred Forums that can't appreciate nuance/think outside of le righteous culture warrior may mays.

>believing he lies of a Scientologist

Yep. Mike's talk about about frizzy-haired mulatto girls is totally accurate. They're always the ones organizing black activist shit, never actual nig-nogs.

if you aren't you're a cuck

Because black areas should stay black and whites should stick to their own kind, they're pro segregation while thinking segregation is bad.

same

Its IFC's only hit show

>feminist bookstore complaining about gentrification

I think most people did.

Why did you bring up liberals for no reason?

>>feminist bookstore
>Gentrification

Holy shit this sounds like an Onion News headline

I have never seen Portlandia.

But if it is pissing off those kid of people I'm putting it on my DVR.

Congratulations, bookstore, you've only raised the show's ratings.

The show BTFO not only Portland, but hipster culture in general.

youtube.com/watch?v=ErRHJlE4PGI

The chicken sketch is one of their best and sets the tone for the entire show.

Portlandia sucks dude.

I hate how liberalism means left nowadays

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

It means individual freedom

Stupid socialists co-opting it to sound like they aren't commie scum

"Classical Liberalism" is just as bad as the modern kind. Read Edmund Burke.

Any good?

In the grand scheme of thing, all libertarianism is left

Left generally means more government

Right means less

Liberalism was traditionally right (and still is by definition)

There are three responses at this point.

Yours is the least compelling.

oops meant to post this as a new thread

That's the twisted American definition. Right = more hierarchy, left = more equality.

Feel free to give a reason.

>libertarian means more government oversight

k

Classical liberalism is a bottom-of-the-barrel meme philosophy.

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>When the local news outlet, Willamette Week first asked for comment, however, the store was less than forthcoming, writing back: "After some consideration and research we've decided to officially tell the Willamette Weekly to go fuck themselves. Your paper has absolutely zero journalistic professionalism and you are scummy rape apologists."

youtube.com/watch?v=gzY7POVQhp0

goat skit

Nobody is posting cute pictures of Carrie. This thread sucks.

You act as if those free market types, racial supremacists/seperatists, Midwesterners and evangelicals aren't constantly at each other's throats on the right.

wtf i love portlandia now

I concur

Here you go, Satan.

I've always wanted to bang Carrie since I saw her on the S-K Dig Me Out cover. She's a les now tho

Tfw the girl I'm in love with moved to Portland and she always wants me to come visit but I don't know if i can stomach all of the trashy hipsters.

>"Transmisogyny – Racism – Gentrification – Queer Antagonism – Devaluation of Feminist Discourse."

>When the local news outlet, Willamette Week first asked for comment, however, the store was less than forthcoming, writing back: "After some consideration and research we've decided to officially tell the Willamette Weekly to go fuck themselves. Your paper has absolutely zero journalistic professionalism and you are scummy rape apologists."

Some people just deserve to be beaten to death with housebricks.

They at least understand what's at stake and when to settle shit later.

>yfw most of Israel and the KKK support the same guy

Feminists don't actually watch, read, or play the things they support. They judge it at first glance. When the show started it was just hipster enough visually that they went "yeah that's good". When they actually watched it years later out of biased acceptance, they realized how opposing it actually was to them.

story?

isn't he dating carrie bernestein?

He's in the deepest friendzone with her.

i thought they were dating

gay shiet although im gay

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they did not realize the show made fun of tthem and their beliefs

>Since working together on ThunderAnt, Brownstein andFred Armisendeveloped what Brownstein has called "one of the most intimate, functional, romantic, but nonsexual relationships [they have] ever had."[53]According to Armisen, their relationship is "all of the things that I've ever wanted, you know, aside from like the physical stuff, but the intimacy that I have with her is like no other

I don't think so famalam.

Just so everybody remembers, SJWism is a psy-op.

>That's the twisted American definition. Right = more hierarchy, left = more equality.

Remember the Soviet Union? Set out to make the most equal society in human history. Did so by establishing a brutal hierarchy and imprisoning or murdering everybody who didn't fit the hierarchy's idea of "equal". Became one of the most oppressive and tyrannical hierarchies in human history. Achieved "equality" by silencing dissent.

Tell me: What's the left's plan for establishing equality, without having a hierarchy of elites who are empowered to enforce their vision on everyone else?

>everyone has had enough of this kind of shit and wishes it would just dry the fuck up

You know what to do in November. Seriously though, how is it there isn't a bigger backlash against these fucking crybabies at this point? All they do is whine cry and try to get relatively decent people shamed or fired. How much more does everyone feel like dealing with? It's so fucking counter-productive.

If you still consider yourself a leftist and aren't completely bat-fucking-shit insane you have to fucking see this shit for what it is by now.

They're just that fuckin stupid. It's amazing how obtuse people on the far left and far right are. Sadly these people are allowed to shape the world around them, so their existences aren't as funny as they should be.

im actually voting for this fuckup in a roundabout way to take back the left. 4 years of his utter fuckery will leave both the GOP and SJWs neutered. then the country can go full lib again, only this time we don't let social justice crackbabies back to the table. ever. trust me, the names and faces of these spergs will be remembered forever

Well at least they're right about Portlandia being bad.
It's the type of show people convince themselves they like even though they know none of the jokes work.

>Why did it take so long for the owners of the bookstore to realize this?

The management that runs the store now were not the ones who made the deal to be on Portlandia. The original bookstore crew didn't have a problem with the show, it's only the new team.

>Voting for Trump

Nah, I'm good, Trump is just like them anyways,

their elitism rivals Cred Forums. As soon as someone breaks ranks or questions the dogma for a minute they are labelled, shunned, and ignored

>its a "leftist eat their own" episode

Cute. CUTE!
Man.... why do I love the "Jew look" so doggone much?

Fucking retarded. Ronald Moore is a regular on the show and he's black as hell. They also have kumail who is pooinloo and plenty of others, they had Zoey Kravitz recently, too

I COULDN'T SEE

THAT THE JOKE WAS ON ME

>Gentrification
Non-american/non-native speaker here, what does that mean exactly? in layman terms, assume I'm really dumb. Tried finding the definition myself but I don't think I understood it completely, or at least why would attracting people to otherwise dead areas be considered something negative.

Not that guy, but he didn't "bring up" Liberals. Liberal isn't a bad word, and it's not derailing a thread based on the fact that a liberal show for liberals isn't liberal enough for the owners of this liberal bookstore.

>They also find Portlandia racially problematic
>racially problematic
>problematic

Can't read anymore than this. 'Problematic' is my trigger word. Anytime I see it, I get irrationally angry.

When people buy up low-value property, usually in ethnic areas, and renovate them into shops and condos and shit. It's literally turning shit ghettos into something worthwhile and economically stimulating. Somehow it destroys ethnic culture because they can only exist in poor environments for some reason.

Broadly speaking, it refers to middle and upper-class people buying up large portions of a lower-class area's property, causing property prices to skyrocket and changing (or destroying, depending on your perspective) the culture of the area.

People don't buy up the property, development companies do, and they only rent to large corporations. I'm against all of this SJW bullshit, but gentrification isn't the best thing

Younger white prople move into shitty areas and improve things for working class individuals. Usually gentrification brings in more artistic stores and markets with usually higher prices.

If you are working class or higher gentrification is a good thing. If you're lazy and a turd it just kicks you out of your house by raising surrounding property values.

You must be new, or you miss the point of Cred Forums's anonymity and contrarianism. Our conversations may be mean spirited, but on Cred Forums, you silence dissent not with reputation or meaningless platitudes or wordsmithing, but with argument and fact. If somebody says something you disagree with and you call him a cunt for it, that's not much of an argument if he has a real opinion. Likewise, if you respond to someone calling you fuckshit with a reasoned argument, it doesn't matter if he concedes defeat or not, because you're both anonymous. What really matters is the unseen reader; the users and lurkers who read and learn the facts and the argument that you present, which, over time, begins to become one of a few accepted arguments on the issue in question.

It's only considered a negative if you are an insane hipster who wants to force people to live in shit because you want to preserve the "character" of their shitty fucked up communities. Only gentrifiers are against gentrification.

Poor neighborhoods are bought out and updated to be more trendy. This attracts upper middle class college kids who want to live in the city. Imagine if cultural Renaissances could be manufactured. That's what the land development companies have mastered.

Essentially this pushes out low income renters in the area as prices rise due to demand. In turn the minorities complain and then this goes down the river until it gets to the very same Suburbanites who agree it's bad, but don't want to move out.

that's why i said it rivals their elitism, I didn't say it was "just like" Cred Forums's elitism

as for your 'argument and fact', I offer you this picture of women laughing

I hope the writers go all meta with it and have Candice and Tony disavow Portlandia itself.

The language and prose these people use just drives me nuts. If its not the affectionate slang of "slay queen" or similar nonsense then its redundant, pointless vulgarity aimed at god knows.

Don't bother. The movie is shit.

Agreed. The feminist bookstore bits have been my favorites

One of my favorites

shes so fucking cute holy shit

shes a dyke

finally a conspiracy I can get behind

>It tastes like soot and hot water

im a liberal democrat because of policies, not identity politics.

Good. Last three seasons were shit

Because it's actually really hot? Because it kinda is, sorry, proud race warriors.

Yup. Feels tired. I miss the sketch format of the early seasons

This is just too much now.

Portland is basically the shit on sole of Seattles boot... and Tacoma being the sole

She's jewish?

Came here to post this. The sketch about banning plastic bags in Oregon is funnier and more incisively anti-leftist than anything right-wing comedians produce these days.

New management. Old management didn't care.

>It's the type of show people convince themselves they like even though they know none of the jokes work.
What?

No, Portlandia works because it's a scathing satire of hipsters, SJWs, millennials, and the west coast in general. Most of the humor in the show is on par. The only people who don't like it are either people who mistake it for what it's satirizing, or people who feel it hits to close to home.

I've seen several episodes of the show. The material doesn't work.
It's like Bojack Horseman in the sense that they try to make it as lazy as possible when it comes to delivery.
Self-awareness is the lowest form of satire.

I seriously have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm half-certain you're just spouting buzzwords at this point, and hoping at least one of them is coherent.

If you have no idea what I'm talking about, why did you respond?

Eh, the right always tosses people out for not being ideologically pure enough though. It happens on both sides.

liberals are the only ones that complain about gentrification?

you are stupid.

It's called probing. How can I understand your thought process if you don't explain it?
Furthermore, why would you post in the first place if you weren't interested in having people understand it?

It's like the concept of a discussion is completely lost on you.

Why can't leftards take a joke? How cunty do you have to be to not be able to poke some fun at yourself?

The concept of discussion is completely lost on you, my friend.
You did not question anything in your previous response.
You did not ask or even suggest that I elaborate further in what I meant.
You, my friend, did not, and for that, I'm not going to discuss this further with you and am leaving this thread.
Learn to ask the right questions when you have the opportunity to.

Fred Arisen is multi racial

Because the quality of life of the people in those shitty areas doesn't improve, they just get pushed out

They're in a historically black neighborhood too. I dont know what the show has done to contribute to gentrification, but this store definitely has done its share

>You did not ask or even suggest that I elaborate further in what I meant.
Not my fault you're contextually illiterate.

Anyone with a high school education would realize that getting accused of using buzzwords directly implies that you're arguments are shallow. You provided no examples, your comparisons lacked contrasts, and you didn't tie together how self-awareness fits in with Bojack.

I shouldn't have to explain any of this to you in the first place.

>Learn to ask the right questions when you have the opportunity to.
Learn to provide proper argumentation.

>Scathing
I think you're projecting here. I think it seeks to be an affectionate parody like King of the Hill is for koscher conservatives.

>story?

His ex-wife, Elizabeth Moss, said so.

And they're not dating, she's a lesbian

Meh, fuck what she says.

>moderate liberal
They're not moderate you ironic shitposter

>I think it seeks to be an affectionate parody like King of the Hill is for koscher conservatives.
youtube.com/watch?v=TCDbY_lXS5A

What part of this strikes you as affectionate?
Scathing might have been a bit extreme, but I don't see anything affectionate about how these guys are ever portrayed.

i've been wondering for 6 years when there would be a backlash against this show from the left. i was starting to think it would never happen, but here we go...

expect a wave of articles "examining the assumptions and contextual underpinnings" of the show because it's finally dawned on liberals that this show isn't really on their side. it isn't on anyone's side, really, but to depict modern leftists without drooling over their pet causes is enough to piss these people off

The show is bad, but not due to these reasons. Put simply it's a comedy that isn't funny.

Kek

No response from him.

They have no plan. Most leftists are mentally deranged faggots and brown people who hate white people.

Thats it. There is no plan. They just hate whatever the dominant culture is.

>Put simply it's a comedy that isn't funny.
Explain.

Well they're not malicious, just overzealous and hypocritical.

Half dyke

Nice trips tho.

B R O W N S T E I N

Wtf I love Portlandia now

Did you watch the entire sketch? They antagonize a man and his daughter and they leave their baby tied to a post out of site while they eat dinner

>Well they're not malicious
The skit ended with a baby tied to a road sign.

Yeah, I never really got the appeal to it. My sister showed it to me back when the first season was all out and It never even got so much as a smirk out of me, meanwhile she's cackling like a lunatic.

But I feel the same way about some other comedies that are generally loved.
Never cared for Arrested Development, for instance. I guess the weird, awkward, sleeper comedy doesn't do it for me.

>the show is all white people!
>two leads are a jew and a spic

Read Kropotkin I guess. I mean there's different schools of thought when it comes to these things and the info is out there.

>Left generally means more government
No, Authoritarian means more government. Left has nothing to do with more or less government, just what thy government should be put to use doing.

So.... open borders? High taxes? Affirmative action? Globalism?

The only thing separating you from SJW idiots is green hair dye and more piercings.

Pretty much. The black ghettos got literally flooded years ago, so all the druggies and minorities flooded into Chinatown, which is a special kind of shit.

There's an interesting aspect to this though since it and downtown Portland are side by side, so you can gradually see the city get seedier and filthier as you walk across a block.

sleater kinney sucks faggot

>It happens on both sides.

no it doesnt

stay mad liberal leldditor newfag

You just described the right. More efficient government. The problem is both Bush and Obama were retards who spent too much on shit.

The left is pro socialism and that means big government.

You've been voting for the wrong side.

RINO, cuckservative, the list goes on...

I miss Jon Stewart.

Literally Vancouver.

Pfft...what? The right always shoots itself in the foot by being too big tent.

Your understanding of politics is extremely S H A L L O W

K keep voting for the party that does what obviously don't want government to do.

So two white people then?

And those people are in charge of the party.

What the fuck am I reading?

Jews don't consider themselves white.

Why do you think they've run inoffensive, moderate candidates since 1988?

>Its a black people think anyone not black is white episode

>dude right wing doesn't do ideological purity
>ignore terms we use within our circles to discredit each other for a lack of it though

He's also part Japanese actually

For the same reasons as the dems numbskull. But anyway you'll notice your view is myopic since this hardly applies to politics abroad.

>The left is pro socialism and that means big government.
I will reiterate: Left has nothing to do with more or less government, just what the government should be put to use doing.
The Patriot act is big government but conservatives support that.
An active overseas military policy is big government, but conservatives support that.
Restricting social change, such as trying to prevent abortions and gays marrying each other is big government, but conservatives support that.
Farm subsidies are big government, but conservatives support those.
NOW I have described the Right.

Conservative media, the party establishment, et. al. are full of nothing but compromising cowards.

>Dems
>moderate

No, they just get more and more socialist.

>they just get more and more socialist
On a political compass both the republicans and democrats are right wing. By most accounts they've shifted further right since the end of the 70s. How can you be this dense?
>compromising cowards
Sounds like you just want your views dominating political discourse but can't admit to it. And anybody that doesn't oblige you is now not a true conservative(TM).

You literally just proved his point about the right wing being back biting as well. Your view is hardly a unique one.

Lazy black people neglect area. Rich faux socialist buy it, fix it, and tell their hipster friends to move in. Lazy black people can't afford fancy stuff on food stamps, chimp out and move on to the next government housing.

Overriding state's rights to declare if they want fag marriage and mentally deranged trannys in their bathrooms is big government, the left GOT THIS.

Strong military presence is necessary and the left does it too, just not as good because they're all pussies.

High taxes to pay for social programs that give money to lazy niggers is big government, the left wants that.

They want to gov to choose which doctors and schools you go to. Big government.

They want to take away right to carry guns. Thats big government.

The left wants to educate from Washington. Thats big government.

The left wants to import "migrants" from dangerous parts of the world and put them in our communities. Big government.


NOW I've described the left.

But I'm sure Buzzfeed and MSNBC told you different.

PUT A BIRD ON IT LMAO

Nah, when it hits, it hits hard. There are a few iffy sketches, but it's mostly really good.

Not an American but why does statism become permissible when it's at a state level? Your anarchists and libertarians come across as really hypocritical in that regard.

>Overriding state's rights to declare if they want fag marriage and mentally deranged trannys in their bathrooms is big government,
>Government governing less is big government
You're literally retarded. I'm arguing with a mentally stunted person.

>Strong military presence is necessary
That's bootlicker mentality.

Came here to post this

Smaller more locally based governments allow for more accountability.
The further degrees of separation from the people and who governs them the more tyrannical a regime is.

>The left wants to import "migrants" from dangerous parts of the world and put them in our communities. Big government.
That doesn't make any sense. Those are people that want to move to the countries in question. What's "big" about the government there?

>Not an American

No longer care to talk to you about politics.

The central government forcing states to allow fag marriage and trannys to piss next to your daughter is big government.

Sorry you're stupid.

Have fun being defenseless, oh thats right America probably protects your sorry ass with our strong military presence.

That's untrue though. If a law is restrictive, archaic and against freedom it hardly matters of it's from the capital or city hall. That's like saying a lynch mob in its immediacy and locality is better then the federal or state police.

>The central government forcing states to allow fag marriage and trannys to piss next to your daughter is big government.
more local =/= more free. A state is not an individual, so it makes little difference in that regard. The functional thing is that the state governments want the ability to deny certain freedoms to their citizens, and that liberals have used the federal government do not allow that overreach.

>central government forcing states
So states>individuals? So bloat and authoritarianism is ok so long as its homegrown?

>So bloat and authoritarianism is ok so long as its homegrown?
That's the core conservative mindset summed up.

By using big brother to bully little brother into accepting fag marriage instead of letting each state vote on it.

The people should decide that for themselves, not the government forcing it.

You're probably an actual faggot though anyways.

The individuals from said state vote no on fag marriage. The federal government over rules that and forces them to accept it.

BIG GOVERNMENT

>mentally deranged trannys

why aren't you killing them right now instead of posting to a degenerate japanese cartoon image board?

YOU MAKE ME SICK

I consider myself both. What now big guy?

Having authoritarianism localized makes it easier to escape it. It's not good but it's preferable.

How's it being retarded?

Reminder that a guy who chops his dick off is still a guy.

>letting each state vote on it
If it's a restriction on freedom that doesn't hurt others. Why should it be up to vote? The founding fathers themselves raised this issue with Wolves voting on what to eat.
>not the government forcing it
Is a state government not a government itself. What makes it invulnerable to corruption and authoritative command?

Not to mention the whole reggae thing.

more local =/= more free is the false equivalency of the year. the issue is instating a federal mandate that all businesses in all states cater to fags regardless of how desirable fag business may be. by creating a special class of citizen (Fags) the government has essentially given them a black check to sue any business that denies them service, on discrimination grounds. anything that isn't captured by a camera is hearsay and the courts will certainly side with the plaintiff is something as politically calamitous as this.

t. devil's advocate, i could not care less if fundies have to make cock cakes. sounds hilarious.

>The people should decide that for themselves, not the government forcing it.
You just outlined why your own position is retarded. Ultimately your very position relies on the idea that the government must enforce the will of the community, you just want that community to be selectively smaller. You're not seeing things from the perspective of the people you're talking about denying rights to. To them, it's conservative governments telling them their partnerships can't be called marriages, they can't use the bathroom they want to, they can't get abortions.

It sounds like your position is "It's only big government if it's suppressing my rights, including my right to suppress other people through government."

If everyone voted that you couldn't have the freedom to lie in bed and instead had to sleep standing up and local police enforced this harshly would you say you are somehow made freer by this? If the federal government steps in and says that's not ok surely this has made you a slave?

youtube.com/watch?v=RkRog16ODY4

Which of the following sexualities best describes you, Cred Forums?

And not letting fags marry or trannys piss next to little girls isn't hurting anyone either.

Quit defending big government.

That should have always been up to the state via voting.

You sound like a triggered faggot from tumblr. Go back.

That has nothing to do with what were talking about and you're just moving the goalposts. Most people in many states got their vote overriden by big government to force fag marriage and tranny shit.

No. Just like the CRA, this is the govt. jumping the gun and doing something that seems politically advantageous at just the right time. Obama was against gay marriage, for years, before he was for it.

>You sound like a triggered faggot from tumblr. Go back.
I guess I was right that you like telling people what to do after all. Glad I got you to give up your "Conservative = less authoritarian" meme

I would move to a state where these laws are not enforced.

If there ISN'T a state where these laws are not enforced, I don't know why the fed would do something as enforcing something that failed literally everywhere.

Your hypothetical scenario sucks.

>tfw some pink monkey accuses you of being too white but u actually Latino

You just defended telling people what to do you fucking retard.

>We vote no to fag marriage
>Too bad were the big gov and were telling you what to do here.

>not letting fags marry
How is it not? It's denying them a right on a tenuous issue based on subjective faith they may not share. If state governments banned interfaith marriages or interracial marriages how would that not reduce the freedom of individuals that wish to do so? It makes them second class citizens while still expecting the same level of civic responsibility as everyone else.

Remember that time Obama forced everyone to get gay married. Boy that was awkward.

>homological
sexuality of Cred Forums

>Portland
Kek

t. portlandfag, save me

Latino is honorary white

>"Fuck Portlandia!" in large red letters, with smaller bullet points below reading, "Transmisogyny – Racism – Gentrification – Queer Antagonism – Devaluation of Feminist Discourse."
>Why did you bring up liberals for no reason?

this is rich

>I would move
Some people don't have the means to do so. Frankly, why should they leave instead of challenging the law? That's literally just letting the state control the trajectory of your life.

>You just defended telling people what to do
Telling governments what they CAN'T do, yes. They can't deny a segment of their population the ability to marry. Surely you don't actually think that just because a government is voted in, it has the right to make any policy that reduces its citizens' freedom, do you?

>it's a fandom, not a fetish
normal people would believe this if it wasn't for your yiffing habit

>anybody who's not a libertarian faggot is leftist
Kill yourself

>the way she retains her poise as if this happens every day

it's them little details that count

Found the Trumpkin.

No

>Some people don't have the means to do so
Hence why forcing laws on a national scale is even more detrimental. Given the choice, I'd rather have the option to move to another state than another country. Also see: Why globalism sucks 101

> Frankly, why should they leave instead of challenging the law?
Ah yes, because the states love nothing more than when its citizens start emigrating.

I'm don't want to be an honorary cuck.

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it's not something i control whitey, it's just part of the narrative

>by brianna wu

That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying that if you take umbrage at being a libertarian or liberal, you're probably a Trump supporter.
Was I incorrect?

I've never seen this show. Anyone ever been to Portland, though? Despite being like this mecca for wishy washy white trash of the "hipster" variety, it's also a mecca of white trash of the KKK variety. I think Cred Forums would love it there.

I actually kind of like it. It's not that bad for an American city. White trash hipster scum are fucking annoying as shit though. Even more than the KKK types in a lot of ways.

Except literally everything he defined is leftist to the last "t". Keep an eye on Clinton these next four years, and even a closer eye if she is re-elected. The most radical policies will be in her second term, of course.

>(s)he is *still* this derrieredevastated

Holy fuck, get over yourself already

>forcing laws on a national scale is even more detrimenta
Not if these laws or rather motions to strike down laws, assure a uniformity of freedom across the land. It'd be bullshit to be a citizen of a nation and have something like your marriage not recognized within that very same nation as you moved through it. What value does citizenship carry then?

hAHAHA fuck Portland I live across the bridge from that shitty city and only drive over there if I absolutely have to. Place is so fucking full of itself it makes me sick

Remember that time Obama forced religious institutions to let gay married or else?

It's more of a win for common decency really

>That's not what I'm saying.
It's obvious from your anti-"big government" faggotry you're an anti-authoritarian libertarian or "conservative".

At one point in the series, the mayor of portland comes to the conclusion that white supremacists are the most maginalized group in the city and decides to march with them in solidarity.

It definitely doesn't paint it in a funny light, but it's funny anyway.

>forced religious institutions to let gay married
He didn't. No church is forced to perform the services they are now just free to conduct them. Any change now to see if they'll perform a ceremony from a religious standpoint is entirely in the hands of church officials and people of that church.

>It's obvious from your anti-"big government" faggotry you're an anti-authoritarian libertarian or "conservative".
Actually, I'm not that guy at all. I'm a moderately socially left-leaning libertarian. I jumped in to mock you. Your god-emperor looked pretty "low energy" at the last debate. Talking about stamina, when he seems to be running out of his. Sad!

It's absolutely not untrue. Consider, if a state outrages it's citizenry, the state has no resource except to ignore. But it's entire constituency matters gravely. Ignoring them could cost an election. Whereas for the federal govt, it does not matter at all. Obama could dress like a clown and shoot ping pong balls out his ass, Democrats would still cheer. His constituency is a whole nation; pissing off a small part of that nation isn't going to matter at all.

Local governments are more accountable to their citizens, full stop.

the white upper/middle class is pushing the shittier areas out towards the suburbs, but there are still really poor places around the city, not to mention the homeless people literally everywhere.

>And judging by the upper middle class hipster vibe that the book store owner is giving out, I'm betting the store is in an extremely white area.

If they're talking about In Other Words on Killingsworth I've been in there. It looks way less polished/hipstery than the Portlandia set. I'm pretty sure Killingsworth is a black neighborhood, but it might be gentrifying idk. The lady who worked there looked like Tony except older and black.

> It'd be bullshit to be a citizen of a nation and have something like your marriage not recognized within that very same nation as you moved through it
Dude, before the federal government stepped in and the supreme court mandated it, 48 of the 50 states had legalized gay marriage on their own fruition. And the last two were about to capitulate. Forcing the last two and taking credit for what the states accomplished on their own was nothing short of a powerplay.

Stop buying into this stupid narrative that the federal government instituted gay marriage; they didn't.

>funny light
Meant to say positive

Take your example and apply to a smaller scale. If the mayor of a town dressed up as a klansman and threw rocks at some black peoples living in a mostly white town and they all cheered and hollered and voted for him anyway. That's hardly a good and free state. Like you said pissing off a small part doesn't matter.

>being this delusional

Any church that doesnt perform a gay ceremony is either publicly shamed or fined you fucking autist
>you are free to do as we tell you

>too fucking hipster for a feminist bookstore

fug

how bad is this shit actually? I never gave it a chance because of how fucking awful it looks..

In the meantime all Christian run adoption agencies that don't accept gay candidates get to be shut down. Because I mean, why would a religious institution prioritize their orphans having a family of their religion? Nah just hand them over to the faggot atheists.

>homeless people literally everywhere.

with their dogs.

Your hyperbolic analogy would not hold water. Such a comical example of racism is practically unheard of today, extremely unlikely and not an argument for a federal policy.

I'm using it to illustrate a larger point. Surely you see that.

I like when the left eats it's own

>>too fucking hipster for a feminist bookstore
Wat.

It relentlessly mocks progressives.

Impossible since the advent of the internet. Could have been a reality 100 years ago, when this sort of thing would occur unreported.

Fine let me tune it to a more acceptable level. The mayor of a town turns a designated part of the town into a trash heap. Health codes are big government bureaucracy so fuck that. He knows he's made a part of his city unlivable but since only a small portion of it is affected no matter how extremely this is "just" because the order came from the mayor's office and majority said well it doesn't affect me.

>Any church that doesnt perform a gay ceremony is either publicly shamed or fined
That sounds like the kind of statement that needs some sources to back it up.

Addendum: it's also worth noting that, historically speaking, it is far easier to repeal a state law, and much, much harder to repeal a federal law.

And I'm taking your point, and explaining how it works in reality.

Want a real example? Weed is federally banned. It's only legal in Colorado and washington because they told the feds to fuck off.
So here we have two cases where not only is the federal government late to the party, it's even inhibatory.

>Gentrification
>feminist bookstore

Is this some kind of elaborate joke or this people are this dumb for real?

I've started to get a bit annoyed at the amount of homeless people dragging a dog around with them that they can't afford to feed. Not always, but all too often, it seems like they have the dog there to get more sympathy from people.

>publicly shamed
Like I said that's not forcing. It's up to them whether they reform or not
>fined
Let's see it. If they defrauded the couple of money and then cancelled I can see why that might happen.

you sound concerned

its ok. someday youll run away to sanfagsisco and get pumped up the ass and adopt too. its ok puddems.

So are you guys just on the cutting edge of contrarianism or do you have some counterpoints to make regarding free market capitalism / libertarianism and such?

keep in mind the more "OMG IT'S JUST THE WORST EVARRR" language you use, the more people are inclined to believe that you're just disagreeing because it's fun.

You've got things reversed. The bookstore is too hipster to stand the show making fun of them.

Hang on. There ARE black people in Portlandia.

So now people can challenge that decree take it to the federal level and legalize it everywhere. Would this not create a net gain in freedom? Rather then a peace meal approach that robs a citizen as he moves across his own nation.

It needs to be 50% black otherwise it's not fair
oh also it needs to be 50% Hispanic
and 50% Asian
and 50% Muslim
and 50% Australian Aboriginal
Just to be fair

First time I saw this, I was like WTF man.. you know, I know people who own their own place, live alone, all that and still wouldn't get a dog because they can still barely take care of themselves up to any standard worthy of whatever.. much less a pet

But then I realized that... 1. Yes, sympathy. There's a joke skit where someone throws change a homeless black dude, then gently hands his dog a ten dollar bill. Pretty accurate. America does tend to have more sympathy for dog than it does for black men.
2. security, lookout, warning, etc.. especially for women. Lots of homeless people use dogs to alert them when anyone is getting close by as they "camp out" for the night and whatnot. That makes sense to me.

checkin those trip 7s

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> Cred Forums boggy man myth

Christ. Cred Forums is just like facebook, youtube and twitter. It has millions of unique visitors every day, many of which are completely "normal", all of which don't give 2 fucks about you.

Honestly libertarians (American ones) are way too gunho about ceding everything to corporate control which is far more top heavy, authoritarian and non transparent then the average western democracy. Including finite resources, which is how you end up with a company like Nestle buying up water rights all across America, and Time Warner and other big internet providers slicing up how America's information infrastructure will work and collectively muscling out competition like warlords splitting up territory.

Or we could do it state-by-state, because it worked before and it'll work again. And there's a system of checks and balances via immigration and emigration that enforces and supports it.

This is called neoliberalism. They are essentially fascists who are a bunch of brainwashed retards supporting the interests not of the 1%, but the .01%.. ie. oligarchy.

This is what the USA is all about. This is what the US legacy everywhere it goes is all about.

>state-by-state
For whom? I doubt pot smokers would agree. Much like I doubt people in interracial marriages agreed with this approach. Like I said it's bull, stares do act as good launching off points to bring this to a federal level however.

>They are essentially fascists
lol

>everything I don't like is """left"""
What the friggin hell did you mean by this?

So did they consider raising these issues with the network, studio, producers, writers, directors or cast?

Or did they just decide to one day grandstand to let everybody know how not sexist/racist/homophobic/transphobic they are?

Well it was under new management. Maybe they already didn't like the show when they bought it.

Well clearly IFC is ran by racist homophobic trans-misogynists, so there'd be no point in speaking to them.

Neoliberalism is flavor of fascism. Not that I expect this demographic to be literate or even somewhat educated.

> I doubt pot smokers would agree.
How brain dead are you that you actually consider the federal government repealing its prohibition to be a net gain instead of zero sum?

I don't understand. How oblivious are you to the amount of federal regulation that has limited rights just because segragation ended? The federal government is not freeing people faster than its enslaving them.

I didn't realize that neo-liberals supported palingenetic ultranationalism, corporativist economics, traditionalist morality, and the totalitarian unity of the nation and state.

Wrong. You're skipping quite a few crucial steps.

Gentrification starts with artists. That's why every arts district in every city ends up gentrified. Artists make the ghetto areas charming with street art and vegan eateries. Then it attracts development companies who feed into the new demand for an area with cheap prices. Eventually the place becomes popular enough to be saturated with normie restaurants/shops like Banana Republic and Starbucks.

Isn't it ironic how artists are always the ones bitching about it?

They spent a century turning New York into Gentrification City and need laws passed to keep rent affordable, kek.

Modern definitions of fascism are broader than what you are trying to imply.

Well artist seem hardly at fault, I imagine the first to come are probably genuinely poor bohemians. Plus those corporate entities probably stop taking kindly to art projects on their property once they've seized control and normified the place.

Modern misconceptions based on 1940s-era communist propaganda you mean?

What a shitpost.

Even this shit would be laughed out of Cred Forums. Go back to /r/Cred Forums with your oversimplifications, kid.

this
It's a show that sort of mocks hipsters, but not really, because the creators are themselves hipsters. They poke fun, but there's nothing funny about being lazy, pretentious, and so self-aware that your ego is your whole existence. Sketch comedy is mainly miss anyway.

>net gain instead of zero sum
Because it is.
>limited rights with the end if segregation
The right to surpress the "freedom" of citizens in terms of their access to infrastructure and facilities across the land

Don't ever go to Europe or you'll be in for some harsh reality when you find out that what most Americans consider "far left extremism" is barely considered centrist in most decent EU nations.

Not that white trash like you ever makes out of the rust belt white hick county you were born in..

Sure, OK, whatever you say. What should we say instead? Authoritarian neofeudal fucking corporatist plutocracy? Sounds like fascists to me.

>Honestly libertarians (American ones) are way too gunho about ceding everything to corporate control

i don't believe this
i've been reading up on folks like milton friedman, and getting involved in the ancap facebook groups,
and they advocate for limited gub'ment and certain pieces of trust-busting legislation - as long as it's conducive to the free market, not restraining prices, "allowing individuals to pursue seperate interests", that kind of thing.
Protectionism and corporate control is the opposite of what they preach.


But yeah, going by your definition, I completely agree with you. Classical liberalism is a bogus philosophy. And my views haven't changed, only the label.

>Because it is.
No, it's not. What you're discussing is not just repealing the prohibition, but then legally requiring all other states permit it. That's two steps, not one. Repealing prohibition is zero sum.

>The right to surpress the "freedom" of citizens in terms of their access to infrastructure and facilities across the land
Since when were you legally entitled to the contents of my home?

124 million buildings in the US that you're prohibited from entering. How soon until the government makes everyone *truly* free?

>milton friedman,
Friedman literally said child slavery was ok in a completely free market.

>Authoritarian neofeudal fucking corporatist plutocracy? Sounds like fascists to me.
You have no idea what fascism is, so what sounds like it to you is irrelevant.
I am a fascist, and it's the exact opposite of neo-liberalism. They support free trade. We support maximum autarky. They support free markets. We support corporatism. They don't care about morals. We support a morally-pure society. Etc etc etc.

>Protectionism and corporate control
Except these excesses are happening under their ideal conditions. The free market isn't some divine all knowing construct and the big fishes in it have proven that they don't do much move with the current as much as outright control its ebb and flow. A truly free market can't defend against collusion across businesses.

Oh. Ok.

Only real difference I see is internationalism vs nationalism.. Everything else seems pretty similar. Your morals and all that shit is derivative of your nationalism, pride and whatnot.. So yea, kind of two sides of the same coin from my perspective, but that's fine.. I can acknowledge your preferred labels and whatnot.

And that's why Muslims are taking over your cities.

But yes, keep insulting white people, they're the problem.

And btw I've been to Europe, Asian and have lived in every region of the US except the northeast.

Also kill yourself you piece of shit.

>shitpost!

Nice comeback bro. Upvoted!

you sound upset

Muslims aren't taking over shit.

The entire Muslim world got taken over by imperialist powers in the past few centuries. There are only 3 Muslim states left which are not straight up vassals or puppet states of the US, as it inherited parts of British empire in the wake of ww2. One of those has been under attack for half a decade now. Pull your head out of your ass.

Here is an idea if you don't like refugees... Stop bombing people and supporting terrorist mercenary and privateer forces. Crazy though, right? You don't destroy their country, and they have no reason to come to yours..You think they actually want to be in your country in the first place? Nah. Don't conflate refugees with economic migrants either. Additionally.. a huge percentage of the actual refugees from Syria are from a class of educated professionals.


The problem (to me) isn't white people or any "color" people. It's the USA, UK and France for the most part.

Yes, smug retards do upset me quite a lot.

To add to that. The entire fucking map of the whole region was drawn up by imperialist powers.

What are Muslims taking over?

Muslim isn't a monolith anyway.

One group of Muslims are Saudi Arabians... who are literally largely a bunch of worthless fucking shits. These people couldn't even manufacture their own pencil. They are uneducated, useless, schmucks living in a welfare state subsidized by oil money to be honest. What is KSA anyway? King Abdul Camel Fucker can't even wipe his ass without prior written permission from his masters back in DC, London or Tel Aviv.

100% of any significant terrorism in this world is state sponsored.. and the VAST majority of that sponsored through what are vassal and puppet states of the US and co.

>Crazy Muslims killing innocent people aren't the problem!

>Its those innocent people's fault for being American, British, and French!

Wow kid, you have unlocked a whole new level of autism.

They can't destroy shit if you don't let them in. Also not taking over? The fucking mayor of London is a fucking sand nigger you idiot. They will only gain more power as you let more in you retarded cuck.

Thank goodness the British got their heads out of their asses before its too late. I might actually visit their again.

Last I check the UK is still apart of the EU.. and it's going to be that for years to come because they are STALLING. The EU meanwhile is saying.. go on then.. GTFO already.

UK is going into the fucking dumpster, son. Scotland will break off and perhaps also Northern Ireland (about fucking time).

Also, I'm talking about the government and ruling class of those nations.. not the people. Who the fuck are the people of any nation? All the same. A bunch of folks just trying to make ends meet and survive in the fucked up world.

Also, recent report from EU show that UK was truly a weak point of the EU and it will be much better of without UK. UK on the other hand can expect some tough times to come head. Better start learning Mandarin.

Also, the mayor of London was elected in a democratic election. Crazy shit.

I'm glad people like you got out voted by people with common sense.

No more argument needed, the people have spoken and your cucked way of thinking is in the minority.

I bet you're still mad about it. I bet it keeps you up at night.

Look how fucking triggered you are by the mere mention of it. Double posting, double spacing bahahahaha I'm loving every laugh.
I bet you blog about it on tumblr every fucking day.

Waaaaaaaaaaaah Waaaaaaaaah mommy why did they vote leave? The mainstream media said remain would win.

Nope. I think it's a good thing for the world.

But carry on with the ill-informed assumptions.

Everything I said in those two posts is factually true. UK is stalling. EU wants them to hurry up. Scotland will hold a referendum on independence and stay in EU. A really telling report just came out a few days ago about the economic reality of UK and EU situation.

Intentions doesn't absolve one from fault.

Neglected areas become more accessible to people and corporations for a reason. Just saying "The corporations, man! They're just buying out warehouses for lofts, man!" is an oversimplification. Follow the trend. Gentrification starts with a renewed interest in an area. Corporations/developers wouldn't take unnecessary risks with millions of dollars on the line. Artists are willing to take risks since generally they are more open minded to take on the rougher lifestyles.

>Corporations/developers wouldn't take unnecessary risks with millions of dollars on the line.


Uhm. Did you miss the whole bailout thing in the US? Corporate welfare for banks, wall street, auto industry, etc?

Implying that those corporations were taking a risk. They knew they would get bailed out since they're heavily involved in politics.

Developers on the other hand can be easily exposed since an empty apartment is harder to hide when the entire nation is under a housing shortage.

it doesn't really help with anything for one.