Was I supposed to hate this guy?

Was I supposed to hate this guy?

>was I suppose to hate the rapist facist

>has water, industry, civilization, freshly grown food, pampers his sex slaves, and has cranes in the shot implying he's expanding

>oh nuh muh fee fees

Compare the raggedy peasants out in the waste with the grand piano, books, and lavish home he gave his slaves

If you were a woman, yes. If you're a man, you're just supposed to be jealous of the world he lives in because it's like the manhood paradise where women are furniture and the law is the remit of the violent and powerful.

but RAAAAAPPPPPPEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mediocre

No, but he was the villain.

>it's like the manhood paradise where women are furniture and the law is the remit of the violent and powerful
so like reality in a post-apocalyptic world?

Can a couch be raped? A footstool? Discard the ludicrous notion that women are more than just ambulatory uteruses traded like collateral and rape ceases to exist as a crime. A rapeless world is a better place, as no one in their right mind would argue against.

was I suppose to hate the guy who took all those people under his protection and provided them with resources to live, gave young boys a pupose and something to strive for in this life and the other, and kept young girls safe from the hostile world in contact with a lot of culture in education probably being the only 5 people on the planet who have read a book
oh no what a monster

You are supposed to witness him.

Joe established probably what could be considered the first country in the wasteland

Serious question: would you rather wander off into the desert and almost certainly die of thirst or spend your life getting assfucked by an obese mutant in exchange for books and clean water?

>Builds an actual functioning society with access to water reserves and electricity
>mutated dirty uneducated plebs take it all and rip his body apart like a bunch of ungrateful cunts
I hope to god the sequels will portray what would actually happen, but whats to bet it will be a Socialist paradise

2nd one.

No, that mindset is never forced. The villains in Fury Road are not painted as explicitly evil, they're mostly bad boys who do a lot of cool stuff throughout the movie that makes them fun or likable in some ways, like the crazy antics of the War Boys and the chained up crazy guitar guy.

Joe's fault from the protag's perspective was that he basically treated his wives like cattle. They had no rights, no independence, they could only eat sleep and breed. That's not necessarily a bad thing, since they wouldn't even be able to eat if Joe didn't take care of them, but the message of the film is basically saying that the women would rather die free than live as slaves. So I guess a normal person would hate him for treating a human being as an object, but a normal person would also see that he was protecting his objects at the same time and doing what he felt was the right thing.

his wives were far from things. They were educated, healthy and cultured. They had a fucking piano. If they had portrayed them being kept in a dungeon only being visited to be brutaly raped would be another thing. instead they were the people living the best lives in that world.
I would happily be a kamacrazy war boy if thats what youre asking
>I hope to god the sequels will portray what would actually happen
ha, good one m8

I'm going to assume you're not baiting.

In the context of near special annihilation, one could make the argument that perhaps there is a necessity in evil. Those women had near perfect genetics, thus it would simply be smart for them to endure bearing children, as simply an altruistic act.

Rape is bad, but is universal extinction, suffering and anarchy any worse? In a world of utter agony, perhaps it's better to make hard decisions.

And I personally don't see how having an ugly guy ejaculate in you and then give birth 9 months later is worse then what occurs outside his lair.

I rather be Mad Max. He is just like me anyway.

No, you don't get to be a warboy, you get to be a "wife".

>women
>reason

yeah sure

If you were a good feminist you'd hate him and help the women destroy what civilization remained so everyone could just die free instead.

Just think of those fat cows draining the reservoir of water and clapping their fat paws together in glee

That is what is going on in the female mind in reaction to Joe

>He doesn't know about sitrape and restingfeetonrape

Him swerving that monster truck really came out of nowhere to me I thought he'd just run her over and keep going.

Goddammit, tumblr, stop adding 'rape' to words and calling them crimes!

>raperape

>his wives were far from things.
>refers to them and his kids as 'my property'

Okay.

> I hope to god the sequels will portray what would actually happen, but whats to bet it will be a Socialist paradise.

My wager is if a sequel ever gets made (it's not his next movie, and Miller is getting old) then we won't see what happened to these people and the only recurring character will be Max. Just like 1 to 2 and 2 to 3.

>rapelying to posts

This. It would be weird for a mad max story to have a connected narrative between two movies.

I personally hope the guys from Gastown and Bullet Farm wiped all those rebel scum out and a new warlord with some vision stepped up and restored proper order. Maybe they got there in time to stop Furiosa's insanity from depleting the entire reservoir for mutants and worthless husks.

>You will never be an actual imperator and rip off Furiosa's other arm for being a retard traitor

>tfw there will never be a warrior culture you can partake in like the warboys in your lifetime

I really liked how Joe was portrayed, his views and treatment were obviously backwards and terrible (despite what edgy people on Cred Forums will say) but the movie didn't portray him as a heartless Villian, you can sympathise with him after Splendid gets run over because even though his entire philosophy is terrible you can feel his genuine grief and unbridled rage as he roars and points.

Same with Ricktus impotently firing the machine gun in the air.

>2 to 3

Bullet Farmer got blinded and then blown up, People Eater got shot into Swiss-cheese. Plus huge chunks of thier armada got destroyed and they wasted an incredible amount of resources.

Immortan Joe sent 99% of able-bodied fighters out in the war party, and there's no reason to suspect the other 2 didn't do the same. I don't think there's anyone left except the leaderless survivors stuck behind the collapsed the archway in the canyon.

It's best to think of Fury Road as a fairy tale, the specifics don't make a lot of sense, you just have to accept stuff as it's presented.
> Evil King controls everyone
> 5 beutiful wives locked in a tower
> Kings trusted warrior steals them away in secret
> Evil King launchs all out effort to get them back
> aided in escape by wandering hero type character
> escape to their destination
> it's shit and long gone
> moral of the story time: You should try fix what's broken instead of running away and leaving it to rot behind you
> turn around and go back
> kill bad guys on the way
> return to beginning and become the new leader
> everyone lives happily ever after
> wandering hero type character slips away.

I said no recurring characters, not recurring actors.

Notice how he doesn't remember Max and acts completly different? It was confusing as fuck casting the same actor in a similar role, but he's actually a completly different person in-universe.

It's called Islam

Mad Max 2 directly references Mad Max 1 at the beginning.

Why does he wear the mask?

The numerical composition of Joe's forces was never explicitly stated. Your "99%" is clearly headcanon bullshit you're making up, and it's insane to even consider that Gastown or Bullet Farm would have emptied themselves to that extent even if the Citadel did. Point is, someone was going to step up and take that shit from Furiosa, and right quickly, whether it was some of Joe's old boys or an outside power moving in to occupy the sudden vacuum.

Because he's THE big guy. Not physically, but metaphorically.

Also, yes, if you pulled it off he would die.

Sexy.

> Evil King controls everyone
> 5 beutiful wives locked in a tower
> Kings trusted warrior steals them away in secret
> Evil King launchs all out effort to get them back
> escape to their destination
> it's shit and long gone
> moral of the story time: You should try fix what's broken instead of running away and leaving it to rot behind you
> turn around and go back
> kill bad guys on the way
> return to beginning and become the new leader
> everyone lives happily ever after

Notice how the story's barely any different now? That's how you can tell Max wasn't the main character; he was a completely optional part of the story.

literally Islam

I'm suicidal and the only thing that motivates me in life is a sense of spite, so desert is the only option for me.

It's basically my preferred option even when compared to comfortably shitposting on Cred Forums

>protection

He didn't feed them at all.

Did you retards even pay attention to the movie?

He didn't build all that infra-structure, he stole everything and enslaved those people with his monopoly in the water supply.

He was a tyrant that oppressed his people, killed anyone who didn't slave himself away to him and kidnapped any pretty young woman so she would become his sexual slave.

That piece of shit died way too fast in my opinion.

> Your "99%" is clearly headcanon bullshit you're making up

They explain that the only people left at the citadel are War pups (aka kids) and War Boys who are too sick to fight. The movie try's to tell you that 100% of the Citadels fighting force is absent, I said 99% because there's still 5-6 guys commanding the Gear-spinning crew. And they surunder once they realise Joe is dead.


>and it's insane to even consider that Gastown or Bullet Farm would have emptied themselves to that extent even if the Citadel did.

Why? It seems like everyone turned up. If the other 2 locations are anything like the Citadel then the majority of the population would impoverished slaves.
> point is, someone was going to step up and take that shit from Furiosa, and right quickly, whether it was some of Joe's old boys or an outside power moving in to occupy the sudden vacuum.

Well yeah, they are almost defenceless and they lost almost all of thier vehicles including everything large enough to make supply runs between locations. I don't think Joe's old crew would do anything though, the Valhalla religion thing was pretty much all that was keeping them together, Nux abandoned him pretty quickly after becoming disillusioned with it. Any surviving War Boys would have no motivation to try and fight, they'd probably follow Furiosa since she was respected before she betrayed Joe.

Gastown and Bullet Farm guys seemed less fanatical (no religious phrases or sucicdal loyalty). But a lot of them died and they got stuck behind an blockade with dozens of angry Motorbike mountain men nearby. If anyone would take over Citadel (or other place) it would most likely be Hill Bikers or the Spiky Car guys (if any are left).

But as I said, I highly doubt we'll ever know. Next movie will almost certainly begin with Max in a completly different location helping out another group with its own problem. Furiosa taking the citadel will be a happy ending because it will never get proven otherwise.

No, you're supposed to witness THESE

even today men say thats '''''my''"" wife implying the woman belongs to him

Except they would have died trying to get through the Biker Canyon without him. It wasn't his story, but the story wouldn't have happened without him. Exactly the same as The Road Warrior, the Settlment had a bandit problem and wanted to escape north with thier supply of Guzziline, Max helped them but didn't really have any character development or end up in any different situation as he began the movie except his car got blown up and he softened up a little bit and helped some people after initially looking out only for himself. Thunderdome worked the same way, but that movie was shit.

It's how Mad Max works.

Alright, calm down, Lancelot.

fuck off fedora baby

Are you intelligent, nihilistic and possess a wicked sense of humour?

>He didn't build all that infra-structure, he stole everything
Literally the same thing in a post-apocalyptic world. Do you think people in that environment file for building permits?

>enslaved those people with his monopoly in the water supply.
You mean he made sure that it was rationed properly.

>He was a tyrant that oppressed his people,
You mean he united, provided for, and protected them.

>killed anyone who didn't slave himself away to him
No moochers. This is good!

>and kidnapped any pretty young woman so she would become his sexual slave.
Literally nothing wrong with this. Indeed, this is what women want: HYPERGAMY.

>That piece of shit died way too fast in my opinion.
Yes. Good strong men who build the foundations of thriving civilizations should die quickly and their work destroyed. Good thinking.

He's an elder white male, he's evil incarnate.
It should be illegal not to hate him.

The official comic book showed that the fake religion and and artificial depravation was necessary because the mayor of Gas town calculated that if they gave everyone free access of the water and food the complex will be out of supply within a month.

I suspect that the citadel will be deserted in the sequel.

He is a man, so yes.

>everyone could just die free instead.

Indeed. The water supply will over in a couple of years and everyone will die.

Poetry.

>You mean he made sure that it was rationed properly

So... Max destroyed the world... Right?

That looks extremely painful.

Not particularly.

Drama is often more interesting if both sides of the conflict have valid or at least understandable positions to defend or attack from.

Green Room was similar.

Don't get me wrong - The Nazis were bad guys. But they had a clear and understandable motivation for why they were doing what they were doing - Something you might think about doing if caught in their circumstances.

Otherwise it can be kind of boring if they're just evil for the sake of evil (unless you have something more interesting going on like No Country For Old Men or Silence Of The Lambs).

He wasn't too bad.

He was like a slightly worse Aunty/Master Blaster.

Although, I guess Aunty and Master Blaster to be fair weren't even really bad guys at all. In fact, Max was kind of a dickhead in that.

It's called ISIS. They're literally living in a desert shit hole dystopia right now.

>Immortal Joe
>Dies

He was a well written villain.

>If they had portrayed them being kept in a dungeon only being visited to be brutaly raped would be another thing. instead they were the people living the best lives in that world.
It's ok if they're on cushions and gently raped instead of chained up and brutally raped.

You know, some people may be ok with that life and choose it over living like peasants. They weren't given the choice though.

What if Mel Gibson was the main villain in the next Mad Max movie?

What if he kills Max as a way of reclaiming his role?

You waiting on the real Terminator 3 too? lol

for him.

>what is gastown
>what is the bullet farm
There were multiple settlements user, they all had a role to play.

You misunderstood his entire motivation then, bitch was carrying his child. All he wants is a non retard/mutie heir

Humungus > Joe

Yeah because everything got so much better when women got into power, stopped rationing the water and just blasted it all out in one go because, it's better when there's no water to fight over.

meme

what his name?

But Joe was the one who started the retardedly wasteful water distribution method in the first place.

...

>maintains measured water supply for decades
>facilitates trade agreements with local towns
>manages eugenics campaign that progressively eliminates radiation effects

He was such a bad guy zzz