What are your hopes/expectations for Star Trek Discovery?

Mainly worried the diversity and sjw trash will be unbearable, so it feels safer to have low expectations.

I thought he meant the animation. The stills of the ship all looked great on TNG, but the shit that was animated in and not a miniature look awful.

>mfw I realize you faggots aren't talking about the animation but the design of the ship.
Wow!!! just WOW!!!
wasn't even OP's question.

>diversity
>star trek

go back to your star wars shit thread

I don't know why they keep making prequel shit close to the original series instead of just going back to something legitimately interesting and relevant to our times, like the Eugenics Wars or creation of the Federation. With huge current events like clashes between nationalism and globalism across many different elections you'd think they'd want to tell the origin story of the creation of a One World Government/New World Order.

I'm worried Fuller will chicken out and not make it a story of Kirk/Spock homolust.

I unironically liked the direction he took the Hannibal character in. I need him to do the same for Trek.

janeway tier cluster fuck loose with regs.

will get into its stride by s2 like all star treks.

cool space battles?

why couldnt they just make rdm do a captain worf show

would love to see this
>failed as ambassador
>2 dead waifus
>bad mark on his records
>probably capn of shit duty station
>fucks up again trying to decide between starfleet and house martok
>son relationships
>kurm brainwashing wears off

>what are your hopes/expectations for Star Trek Discovery?

I had hoped it would be a return to the fun and interesting weekly ST tv series but my expectation for STD is that'll be canceled after one season, as CBS are a bunch of greedy Jews who expect viewers to not only pay a monthly fee for their proprietary streaming service, but also pay-per episode.... in addition to suffering thru commercials.

nope. tng holds up even today because they used real models. problem is people are sloppy with cgi these days and it looks fake.

>transgender planet
>gay planet
>boy love planet
>BMWF planet
>Female dominated society planet
>multicultural/socialist utopia planet
>dystopian planet where every country has huge walls and orange leaders with bad hair

A few of these have already happened but you don't know that because you've never watched it.

damn that sounds awesome

not watching discovery btw

Once again, NOT AT ALL op's question and, DUH yes I know. read all the answers before posting retard.

blatant sjw stories like that would be preferable to mixing it with scifi

Yeah except they will be much more ham fisted about it.

Star Trek has always been kind of lefty but it was never SJW hedonist horse shit

That's not really true. It only looks "kind of lefty" when viewed from the perspective of today. Back when it actually aired it was more or less the SJW horseshit of its day.

Models always look superior to CGI. This is why TNG, Voyager etc juat look far better.

For it to be over quickly and give the writers a chance to write a series post-VOY/DS9.

>Amy Adams
>42
>Isla Fischer
>40

JUST

Time is a cruel mistress that hates other women to eliminate competition.

>Back when it actually aired it was more or less the SJW horseshit of its day.

Sure, but this only applies to TOS and while the later series while left leaning, they weren't in-you-face about it.

Not that it matters, as STD is going to get canceled anyways because of CBS' greed; nobody but a handful of hard-core Trekkies are going to pay-per-view (on top of a monthly fee and commercials).

>(((Nicholas Meyer)))
This addon is amazing.
>new star trek is about gays and women.
>Guess who is behind it.
every fucking time.

Which ones?
Because i can count 1.

>creation of the Federation

already did that near the end of Enterprise

exploring the past will only open up more continuity problems

exploring the future will only collide with the problems of atemporality - as the federation becomes more advanced, their technology becomes godlike and you start to ask why they even bother.

I watched ENT.

So I'll endure anything with "Star Trek" on it.

And 13 episodes? Pfft, cakewalk.

I see the cloning is working pretty well...

Fuck you. Find me a gentile who directed a better Star Trek film. You can't

>>transgender planet
done
>>gay planet
don't remember but probably can be checked off any number of other versions
>>boy love planet
done
>>BMWF planet
oh boy, one alien race with another race? you don't say! Done
>>Female dominated society planet
done many times
>>multicultural/socialist utopia planet
earth
>>dystopian planet where every country has huge walls and orange leaders with bad hair
done

you have never watched it

Star Trek has always been hamfisted you stupid cuck.

I will get shit on every time for this but Wrath of Khan is over rated. was it good? Sure, but not the best Star Trek

> Hopes
Interesting, new concepts, exploration and aliens

> Expectations.
Hot Garbage, every episode being as blatant about their 'social message' as that one DS9 one where Sisko was the 1950s writer.

I cant wait to hear about islam from a muslim crewmember wearing a hijab, because that's what I'm looking for in a sci-fi series

>you have never watched it
that is all good and well

but I bet the guys producing discovery never watched it either

fucking google shit before talking out your ass

>Bryan Fuller and Alex Kurtzman
I get that Kurtzman is a problem but Fuller has potential to make great Star Trek

>Not set after nemesis
Literally no hope.

>Fuller has potential to make great Star Trek
In the purely statistical sense that he could chose to throw off his nature and write a good Trek show, but he's not suited to Trek, all his episodes are overrated as fuck.

You're not going to hear about Islam, when they did that in TNG they just used Klingon culture in place of real world eastern religions.

>You're not going to hear about Islam
No, of course not, we'll hear about the Blamericans who want to ban the Bluslims from coming to their planet because they're always murdering people but then Lt. Commander HeShe from the Star Trek Discovery will tell them that Bluslims invented maths so they should just deal with being murdered, and everyone lived happily ever after.

>Bryan Fuller
>no diversity and homolust to the max

Surely you jest

Holy fuckballs, kid. Lay off the pol koolaid. You sound like a piss smelling hobo with undiagnosed schizo. If you're looking for nu-con affirmation in Star Trek of all places, you truly must be on meth.

>Number One is a 'female, minority character'
The fact that 'minority' is included in her character description is alarming.

>>no diversity and homolust to the max
I never said that should be avoided. This is Star Trek you ignorant fuck.

Not much. Yet another prequel, boring forced quotas, guy making it seems like he has no idea what he's talking about. Rather just rewatch TNG or DS9

So what was the Ferengi space fleet for? Protection? Trading? They never really seemed particularly interested in that, just fighting and getting revenge against Picard for fighting in the past.

And whose command were they under? I can't really picture Zek allowing them to sour relations with The Federation who would probably be the biggest customer base possible anywhere near them.

They were literally suppoesd to be TNGs main villian, they probably don't have a fleet for any other reason than that. In universe I dunno.

The fact that Fuller has made it out to be some kind of big deal when we had black and female captains 20 fucking years ago is the problem.

Also this whole thing about it not being from 'just" the captain's perspective, as if there weren't loads and loads of episodes of TNG, DS9 and Voyager where the captain either barely or didn't at all make an appearance. He either didn't watch and doesn't understand Star Trek, or he's so concerned about showing everyone his version that he's ignoring what actually happened in the old series.

Those frengi were running a kind of protection racket

>The fact that Fuller has made it out to be some kind of big deal when we had black and female captains 20 fucking years ago is the problem.
Exactly. And it's not like previous incarnations weren't diverse either. even by modern standards. There was only one Fucking White Male lead in DS9 (O'Brien), everyone else was coloured or a woman. Voyager, only two Fucking White Male leads (Paris and The Doctor).

I agree. I'm half expecting discovery to be like jjtrek with the amount of random differences and stuff. Even if its in the prime timeline.

If they had any balls they'd do an alien Captain.

actually a cool idea

...

If they had any balls they'd write a new series instead of another reboot where half the work is done for them.

I'd like to see a Bolian Captain, all the Boleans so far have been silly characters like Mot the Barber, that cowardly Maquis one in Voyager or the Jew holo-publisher that screwed The Doctor, or just there to be the punchline of jokes (apparently you don't want to use a toilet after one) so I think they could do with being explored and made into real characters.

I feel like I'm the only one that doesn't like Star Trek IV, and the time travel stuff.

Or a Saurian? Most we know about them is they make good brandy.

WTF ?

Seems to be a video game from 2002.

worf was the blandest and stupidest character on TNG bare perhaps Troi

thats the spirit!

We know, it's DS9 that redeemed him, and then TNG tried to drag him down with them in the movies.

I'd assume that in turbo capitalist Ferengi Federation even the military is privatised and probably run by a number of competing space trade companies rather than a central command under state authority, even though they are probably subject to some kind of controls

>They were literally suppoesd to be TNGs main villian
If I didn't know this to be true I wouldn't believe it, Gene was so silly sometimes

I want science, I want politic, I want philosophy, I want first contacts.

I do not want commander Tits or chief engineering Perfect Teen Ass or a crew of teens.

It's being set preTOS is a big detractor but I'm looking forward to it.

>Worf in the thumbnail
Glory hugging petaQ

I'd like to see where the next big advance has been made in warp flight and inter-galactic travel, and a special mission is put together for the first ship to explore another galaxy

>, TNG is pretty bad if you rewatch it.

Low and bad.
This will be the first bad Trek.
Sure Voyager and Enterprise have their issues, but they're still good shows.
This will be irredeemable.

>no BBC planet

>explore another galaxy
That's way too soon for this point in the story, not even this galaxy has been explored.

The Traveller claimed that they weren't due to do that "for a long, long time, not until you've learned control".

That's Earth

"Commander, tell me about your sexual organs."

Yeah I mean even if the Federation managed to figure out Transwarp, there's still loads of the Gamma and Delta Quadrant to explore.

>not Qo'nos
KLINGED

all actors will be white, but the damage is done.

I dunno user, I dont know.

...

>pay per episode
>still ads
Is this true?

I think people don't understand the giant distances involved, even when accounting for faster than light travel. And in the case of some galaxies even at constant maximum warp you're still talking about hundreds of millions of years.

When they start saying gentile instead of goyim you know they're on the defensive.

Tr^ue

Another 10 feet taller

I wonder if they will keep referring to different species as "races".

I can't find a source for that it being paid-per-episode. All I know is in the US it's going to be exclusive to CBS All Access which is $6 a month and has adverts, of you can pay $10 a month for the "Commercial Free***" version

*** "Live TV" and "Select Shows" have "Promotional Interruptions" which doesn't count as a commercial, somehow, ask your lawyer.

"Star Trek was always liberal" is kind of missing a
the point

It's 2016, and for some reason I find completely indecipherable, gay, black or feminist material is MUCH more irritating now than it was 20 years ago.

I mean everybody in the world loved Xena and that was just flat out a show about a lesbo who traveled around beating up men.

The reason is that you spent too much time drinking the kool-aid on Cred Forums.

You were supposed to chuckle at the memes, not fall for them.

You just made me want a Star Trek porn parody.
Time to hit the old Bing.

>You
It's not me

It's everybody

People are pissed off, petty cunts in new and dramatic ways. The entire population. For instance, compare how at this moment 20 years ago Bill Clinton was gearing up for election day against Bob Dole and no large segment of the general public passionately hated either of them

can't blame them. I study physics and it's still hard to wrap my head around it.

The milky way is 100,000 light years across, andromeda is 2.5 MILLION light years away.

warp 9 is 1000x speed of light as per the table I took from wikipedia, still take 100 years to cross the milky way, but 2500 years to even get to andromeda. the scales are, ahem, astronomical

>Sisko comes back
>asks the Prophets to make a new wormhole to another galaxy
Problem solved, faster than galactic warpinoids.

>no large segment of the general public passionately hated either of them

So you weren't alive back then, I take it.

Not that anyone hated Dole. He was some milquetoast nobody who had no chance of winning. But plenty of people hated Clinton.

This was before he got his dick sucked or even had Elian Gonzalez kidnapped at gunpoint

It doesn't matter. People still hated him. People will search out and use any excuse to give in to hatred. Just look at yourself.

I expect absolutely nothing that is shitshow of show business at this age.

>75% of people in the YouTube comments believe this sophisticated concept footage is the final product

Fuck those people.

Xena being gay wasn't a statement, it was part of the story. These days, decisions about characters are made based on what will make the producers look good and not get lambasted by the liberal media instead of what will make an interesting story. The public knows this and it's grating.

>How dare these people think that an advert for a product should reflect the product
wew lad

I'm referring to people saying the cgi is terrible, not disliking the concept of the ship (although fuck those people too)

The same thing applies. If they didn't want people to think that's what it will look like, they shouldn't have released a video of it looking like that.

>Yeah the Big Mac in the video is rotten, but our food is really good! Fuck you guys for thinking otherwise, this is entirely your fault!

You have trolled yourself, son.

And thus, Cred Forums's work was completed.

Eh, it might have just been that election. For example, JFK notoriously got a heap of shit for being Irish, Catholic, in his 40s and having mafia ties.

Sure there's SJW stuff now, but once upon a time the reverse was a big deal; fascism, racism, communism, etc. If you placed Cred Forums 70 years in the past, it would be a bar with everyone sitting around complaining about commies, with a few people memeing over how great Hitler is.

Except that's what every single conservative shithead thought in their respective time periods. Progress doesn't stop or it wouldn't be progress.

I'm not sure what you're getting at; I agree with you at any rate.

My point is, people complain about how bad it is now but major issues have always existed. As far as problems go, I would take SJWs over most other shit throughout history.

>Progress doesn't stop or it wouldn't be progress.

I'd watch a planet full of David Attenboroughs.

>Progress doesn't stop or it wouldn't be progress.
Progress doesn't mean anything, it's just a buzzword for whatever legislation the democrats want to pass, no matter how authoritarian.

This issue was very well explored in the DS9 episode "Progress".

Wow fucking jewed as fuck. Pirating this shit.

>Promotional Interruptions
kek
>le courts paid off to let this slide meme
well dont americans

I imagine them to be like pirates.

Not him, but why can't you define progress relative to some concept? Like technological advancement or improvements in quality of life? Not everything has to necessarily be a social issue.

>it's just a buzzword for whatever legislation the democrats want to pass
I don't think it's a buzzword, it means a lot depending on context. More than just its literal meaning, it's used to differentiate between the progressive and regressive left (the formal term for SJWs).

I expect dogshit, hope they can surprise me

Ham sandwiches have ham; otherwise they wouldn't be ham sandwiches. Therefore all sandwiches are ham sandwiches.

Star Trek was allways throwing you these questions right in your face.

It was ALLWAYS about social justice.

The ship looks a bit too much like a Klingon Bird-of-Prey for my liking

Anyway I have very low exceptions for the new series. With the current state of television, getting my hopes up could mean disaster.

but why do you need to leave the galaxy at all? there is a ton of unexplored space

*very low expectations*

>hopes
TNG with better CGI
>expectations
product placement, muh raycism, muh genderism, muh sexism ... in space

They seem a bit more ordered (militaristic) than what you'd typically expect from pirates, but I suppose I could accept that, are you saying they're like pirates working for the Ferengi government or corporations like suggested (which would be an idea I'd love)? Perhaps, renting the ships and paying it with whatever they acquire while on-duty?

this

>why can't you define progress relative to some concept? Like technological advancement or improvements in quality of life?
Italy had worse roads, irrigation and more closed, regional governance in the year 1300 than it did in the year 300

Britain had a smaller, poorer population in the year 1360 than it did in the year 1260

Zimbabwe had worse agricultural infrastructure in the year 2000 than it did in the year 1970

South Africa had worse roads, schools, electrical distribution, irrigation, crime, life expectancy and wages in the year 2016 than it did in the year 1986

Haiti had worse roads, schools, crime, agricultural infrastructure, life expectancy and wages in the year 2016 than it did in the year 1786

Progress isn't a bar that fills up.

I am looking forward to you whiny white trash being triggered.

Voyager is still my favorite ship design

Yeah but it was tolerable social justice, not the modern trend of cringe-worthy social justice that obsesses over identity politics and fosters an us vs. them mentality

I am looking forward to the show being canceled after one season due to low viewership.

>>hopes
>TNG with better CGI
The original TNG, maybe, but I'd be shocked if they come close to the Blu Ray remasters. You probably won't even be able to tell until a physical release because it'll be compressed to shit for streaming.

I kek'd

DS9 blu-ray remastering when?

this

ferengi
>oh no he was acting without orders we do not sanction this renegade pirates actions at all.

>go back to ferenginar
huemons suck welcome back brother how much is our bribe?

>You're not going to hear about Islam
Yes you are.

Presumably from a strong independent hijab wearing woman.

>episode about space refugees
>"Captain, in the 21st century small-minded bigots attempted to keep peaceful people like my ancestors from finding new homes. If they had succeeded in their hatred, I wouldn't be here today."

Refresh my memory, did they ever make any direct reference to any earth religion in any Star Trek, I might accept even the usual "WELL YOU SEE CAPTAIN, IN THE 20TH CENTURY EARTH THEY WERE TOTAL IDIOTS SO THEY DID/BELIEVED THIS RETARDED SHIT" they usually do.
I would assume by the 22th-23th century everyone went full fedora.
Also, wasn't Bashir some sort of "arabic" descent.

Enterprise showed that humans were still practicing religions in the 22nd century. Phlox makes a point multiple times to mention how he observed various religious rituals in different areas of the globe.

>I would assume by the 22th-23th century everyone went full fedora
Why?

planet of native americans convince crusher to quit starfleet

"Mankind has no need for Gods. We find the one quite adequate." - Captain Kirk

We also know they celebrate Christmas and the Hindu Festival of Lights, and Cassidy Yates said something about how her mother 'would want her daughter to be married by a minister'.

The idea that Star Trek is atheistic propaganda just came from religious groups who didn't watch it.

You do realize that line wasn't originally in the script and Shatner made them write it in, right?

>0% Jews
If only.

kirk is strongly religious here he asks god why he needs a starship.

It's statistical noise. Rounded to the nearest percentage point there's zero Jews right now - 20 million out of seven billion

No I didn't, but regardless, you could argue that he was lying or just taunting Apollo but he did say it in the show so it's canon.

What's your favourite comedy episode of Star Trek and why isn't it Move Along Home?

Trials and Tribbleations maybe?

Love that one, always wondered what the writers were smoking when they came up with it

Yet even that 'insignificant' percentage runs nearly every major news and entertainment outlet in the US.

We wont have decent TV again until after the nationalist cultural revolution.

What's up with that ugly JJ abram's tier star trek logo?

>The Good Wife spinoff

Who the fuck is watching these shows? I've never head anyone talk about them.

Never watched VOY or ENT.
Anecdotal reference only or was there any social commentary on them?

It only seems logical, in this universe humans are constantly discovering new shit that rivals what "gods" ever did, not talking about science advancements but god-like entities as well, like Q or the Prophets.
I mean sure, religion might continue to exist but on a different tone, mostly as a set of traditions and moral teachings, definitively considering any of those "gods" they might had reference in the past as something metaphorical and not literal.

It's gonna push SJ way to hard

shows like that are watched exclusively by one demographic and ignored by everyone else, like Matlock or Medium

That is a great episode, not just as comedy and classic Star Trek capers, but also an achievement in CGI.

What the hell did they do with all the Tribbles though?

why is star trek such a mismanaged franchise?

this video looks like babylon fucking 5

>CGI actually worse than TNG

That's because TNG still used models for a lot of things.

CBSs biggest audience is middle aged women, the only ones watching Procedural Shows #12515 - #632535 (all made by CBS). STD is how they plan on expanding their viewership to include Fucking White Males who like Star Trek, and the entire vocal population of Twitter they're pandering to.

Trigger Warning: Speciesism

>What the hell did they do with all the Tribbles though?
A pity there was no follow-up episode. Would've loved to see them call in the Klingons for another "Great Tribble Hunt"

WOOWEEEEEEE I GOTS ME ONE OF THE PINK ONES!!

>What the hell did they do with all the Tribbles though?
Quark's very profitable Tribble Tripe business.

Unemployed practical effects artists please leave.

Haven't you got Attack of The Clones and Transformers threads to make?

Never gonna happen. The digital effects were rendered for the 480/540 master. TNG remaster at least had models and original 35mm film to go back to.
Sucks but what can you do?

They can still do it if they locate the effects files which some of the companies may have, if not they can just do new effects for the parts they miss, which they did with TNG in some cases.

The real reason it'll never happen is because the TNG blu rays didn't make enough money for their liking.

>SJWs probably see themselves as contemporary Federation officers fighting for a good cause

That's really sad.

>Find out who was in Command of that vessel for the last 30 seconds and give them a space station to command next

>The real reason it'll never happen is because the TNG blu rays didn't make enough money for their liking.
What did they expect considering the steep prices? Why would someone pay $75 for one season when the show is already on Netflix, Hulu and Amazon not to mention re-runs on cable almost every day?

>The LA Times recently ran a story about the Child Exploitation Sectionof the Toronto Sex Crimes Unit, which contained a mind-bogglingstatistic: of the more than 100 offenders the unit has arrested over the last four years, "all but one" has been "a hard-core Trekkie." Blogger Ernest Miller thought this claim was improbable. "I could go to a science fiction convention," he explained "and be less likely to find that 99+ percent of the attendees were hard-core Trekkies." While there may be quibbling about the exact numbers, the Toronto detectives claim that the connection is undeniable.

Nigger Sisko didn't immediately get command of DS9 after that incident, he was sent to Utopia Planitia to work on the defiant. AFTER that was shelved, he got sent to DS9.

STO mmorg cgi from like 3 years ago looks better...and that ship design is ugly AF

Imagine if they arrested pedophiles in LA.

You can't arrest people for something that isn't a crime

what part of "3 years later" did you not understand

They never said nothing about him going to "not getting your ship blown up" lessons, and it looks like it would have helped

They'll do it all again.

Why does Sisko hate ships?

>"not getting your ship blown up"

>calling that small flying turret a ship.

SAUSE ON THIS FOOKIN IMAGE YA WANKER!!!

because ships originally brought the slaves to america

A ... ship ...

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I've read that the captain will be female, either black or Hispanic. The captain will not be the lead character.

The lead character will be called Number One, who will also be female.

digitalspy.com/tv/star-trek/feature/a795431/star-trek-tv-show-2017-cast-characters-continues-series-tv-series/

digitalspy.com/tv/star-trek-discovery/news/a806220/bryan-fuller-just-dropped-some-major-star-trek-discovery-info-including-more-on-the-shows-female-lead/

It's gonna be SJW garbage.

And no, progressivism isn't the same as Social justice. It's not going to be about equal representation and a "live and let die" attitude towards other cultures as it has been in the past. It will be tinged with hate-filled anti-white sentiment where they will go out of their way to fill the show with as many non-whites as possible, and all white characters rather than being tolerated will constantly be "corrected" by women and minorities and told they need to behave a certain way to allow for minorities to feel safe.

Whereas in the past it went "oh look at this alien planet, woops looks like they do some fucked up shit but we have to negotiate with them on their terms because it's not our place to judge and hopefull we can bring them around to our way of thinking someday".

you must pay for your crimes pale face.

How did they manage to design a ship that looks even more Retro in terms of sci-fi design than the original 1960s model?

>ship is literally brown

Isla really looks like shit in comparison

Someone photoshopped Amy Adams as a star fleet officer

>Isla really looks like shit in comparison

>they will go out of their way to fill the show with as many non-whites as possible, and all white characters rather than being tolerated will constantly be "corrected" by women and minorities and told they need to behave a certain way to allow for minorities to feel safe.
so....You must REALLY hate DS9

see

Started watching DS9 recently. I only remember bits and pieces since I was a kid.

>dat Dax
>dat Kira

>yfw the reason it got delayed is because they don't know if they need to make the villain a thinly-veiled Trump or not

I exists here.

Very well put, although Xena wasn't gay she was bisexual

It needs tits, and ass. Without those key things it can go fuck itself .

>filename
A what?

Also the issue wasn't that there was skin, and more that it was handled in the most blatant tactless way possible.
If Kirk accidentally walked in on her, it would probably have been fine, but making a point out of how Kirk is a hormonal imbecile to the point where he's one step away from drilling a peep hole into a bulkhead, is a bit much.

I expect it to be short-lived shit.

this, people don't appreciate how Rick "keep gays outta the way" Berman actually preserved the franchise

kekked at the 2001 references

errm, no, they specifically said there would be a muslim character

>locate the effects files

a 1 gig hard drive cost tens of thousands of dollars back then, they're long overwritten

They already had one

Is that Mickey from Dr. Who?

alie marie 1 2 3

I guess you could say, he war promoted to ADMIRAL ACKBAR

That's not the final model, it's something they knocked up quickly for the comicon teaser, just to show the design.

It looks like Mickey is Mickeying his own drink.

Its probably going to be disappointing at first, like Enterprise,but, it most likely will get better later on.

Though, I am HOPING it will be good, I am very doubtful.

I personally loved Enterprise though, so a change in Trek might be pretty cool.

The JJ crap does not count though as "new" and "cool" Trek, its just Star Wars essentially.

It's gonna be incredibly hamfistedly done isn't it

>its just Star Wars essentially.
Why you gotta shit on classic Star Wars like that?

>DS9 blu-ray remastering when?

We should get the networks to remaster DS9 and re-air it in a Prime Time slot. I don't see why they don't do that, cause its easier than creating a new show and paying everyone.

>its easier than creating a new show and paying everyone.
It's not really though. It was shot in HD, true, but it was edited in SD, they literally have to go find all the film and edit it from scratch. It would maybe be half to two-thirds as difficult as making a new show from scratch, plus any additional difficulties that may occur along the way, like missing CGI assets which would have to be re-created.

Trek has some diversity, but its not super cancer compared to some other shit. There is always a strong balance of the story and a small "political" narrative.

I like Star Wars, but I like my Star Trek and Star Wars SEPARATED and not similar.

Star Wars for me is just fun mindless fun with nostalgic characters, awesome space battles, and some interesting, but pretty straight forward stories. Classic Star Wars is pretty good, I liked the prequels too, but honestly, Episode 7 was terrible.

Star Trek has more depth, more character with its characters over every season, interesting political narratives as I said earlier and the feel of exploration, which I feel Star Wars has the lack feel of.

Correction ; not the same.

What is René Auberjonois in your world?

Orange goo

Absolutely nothing. Now go, watch Stargate.

Any other CGI will be ugly after J.J. Abrams movies.

>I like Star Wars, but I like my Star Trek and Star Wars SEPARATED and not similar.
>Star Wars for me is just fun mindless fun with nostalgic characters, awesome space battles, and some interesting, but pretty straight forward stories. Classic Star Wars is pretty good, I liked the prequels too, but honestly, Episode 7 was terrible.
>Star Trek has more depth, more character with its characters over every season, interesting political narratives as I said earlier and the feel of exploration, which I feel Star Wars has the lack feel of.
I agree, but the thing about old Star Wars, is that it was very much about the subtle evolution of characters, playing off of their motivations, the intrigue of the world around them, etc.

It was a great adventure story, that I'd best describe as a table top RPG DM's wet dream for a campaign.

The closest JJ's Star Trek came to intrigue and playing off of character motivation, was making Spock and Kirk hormonal imbeciles and the Vulcans openly racist.

I think the whole point about Trek 'diversity' is that no one cares, the human race has advanced way beyond these stupid petty squabbles between skin colour and religions that it barely even registers anymore.

The episode of DS9 where Sisko reveals he doesn't like Vic's because of how black people were treat in Vegas in that time period is a perfect example of that, in that it was something anyone else didn't even think about as it was so far away from a concern by that point.

Interesting. I'm not a real fan of Trek or Wars, but I remember a few memorable moments of each one:

>Star Wars:
youtube.com/watch?v=kyqxWU1QkrE

>Star Trek:
youtube.com/watch?v=_yijcWsLda8

If they say beforehand it's almost always hamfisted.

Instead of saying
>it's going to have a person that happens to be muslim/gay
they make the gay part the main focus.

>Isla really looks like shit in comparison

>t. Zack Snyder

Exactly. They didn't do press releases before DS9 saying "LOOK! We're casting a BLACK MAN as the lead! Diversity is important, it's 1992 after all!", they just did it and everyone accepted it, now they're making decisions about their races and sexuality first and writing it later and shoving it in everyone's faces. That's the part people have a problem with.

I can agree with you on many points, Star Wars has some depth in the classical movies, but I feel a lot of Trek episodes still had a lot more depth in the sense of the progressive and connecting episode archs throughout the series across the multiple shows. Star Wars does very well on condensing it down to 3 movies, but still again lacks the depth of Star Trek simply because one is a TV show, which allows more time to explain a story compared to a movie.

Now, you can get into the Star Trek movies and Star Wars shows and it gets pretty gritty from there.

Fucking love the Enterprise intro.

I definitely agree with every point user, well said.

Star Trek presents actual progressive ideals. It's a future where all of earth stopped giving a shit about fighting each other and decided to focus on discovery and exploration. Petty arguments were left behind in pursuit of a higher, unifying goal.

The regressive left of today can't accomplish any of that because their message relies on putting people into boxes and splitting a line down the middle to say who's permanently oppressed and who permanently deserves the blame for said oppression, even if the oppression in question is only a hyperbole.

SJW's of today let people lash out anger and hate to anyone who doesn't agree with them. That is the real danger of these "progressives." If you can't accept the possibility that your viewpoint may be wrong, you've become the bigot you said you were fighting against.

I agree actually.

I mainly meant that it's unfair to say that JJ's movies are "like Star Wars" because there is some flashy space action in it.
To me, it's the same kind of simplification that implies Star Wars is up there with I, Robot in the Science Fiction genre, just because there are laser guns in it.

JJ's Star Trek is simply an 80s Action Movie with a high-tech coating, while Star Wars was an excellent adventure series.
It did did everything condensed, but it still did those things, is what I'm trying to say.

Fair enough, I see what you mean. I can agree with that.

Why are you posting pictures of Mistress T?

>Trek has some diversity
fucking kek. It's the whole show premise, back from the origional show.

I didn't like Vic's because it needlessly replicated one thing DS9 already had (A cosy if disreputable bar setting; IE Quark's) but made it a version that wasn't actually real and where nothing that happened within it actually mattered a jot and run by a man less interesting then the already established bartender of the setting.

And it consumed one of Quark's Holosuites full-time to do so.

Why I say some as this user, after the fact he said this, as it made me think, that in that time line its a not a huge deal anymore.

With my original point, yeah, it does have a lot, but its never domineering constantly in the show, it still has its stories that don't always involve diversity. Its not all gone-right multiculturalism. (some how)

>memorable moments
>not the inner light

youtube.com/watch?v=RQKp27ZDuCk

>its never domineering constantly in the show
who is B'lanna

We don't talk about Voyager here with a positive manner on Cred Forums

This is a good point. They could have had the best of both worlds by just having mercantile ol' Quark realise installing holoemitters in the bar is cheaper than hiring bands to play live music, et voila, Vic is here.

I did a kek

>tfw Voyager is your favourite show but you get called a faggot because it arguably gets wrong the best things about the other shows, and so no one wants to hear about the stuff it does get right and instead gets criticised for not having the same gritty internal consistency that DS9 was going for, down to the torpedo count
Can't we all just, get along?

Never said that I hated Voyager, but Cred Forums, the anons we are all, never talk about it positively as they never have seen it or they seriously don't like it. The same thing happens to Enterprise here on Cred Forums, but I noticed so many more people have some to like Enterprise on Cred Forums more than Voyager surprisingly.

>we don't talk about examples that prove you idiots who don't understand Star Trek wrong

kek

Instantly thought of that scene and ep when i read comedy

I laughed my ass off that nursery rhyme bit

Bar fight with klingons made me laugh in TOS, that ep where the fur balls multiplying

Also anyone know the name of the ds9 ep where they go back to tng, Missed out that ep somehow.

When ever the grand nagus turns up i have to skip

Who keeps saying TNG used CGI for ships?
They used models, you ignorant millennial.

Doesnt his ship get fucked in the first ep he flies it?

>Also anyone know the name of the ds9 ep where they go back to tng, Missed out that ep somehow.
Do you mean TNG: Redemption I and II where Bashir shows up on the Enterprise? There wasn't a DS9 to TNG crossover episode other than the pilot

I meant TOS, they go back in time

sorry, was being a retard

Yeah, they get wrecked by The Dominion and abandoned ship, everyone was captured but The Founders were really nice and decided to tow it to their planet and later give it back to them and let them leave.

5x6, Trials and Tribble-ations

>5x6, Trials and Tribble-ations

Thanks user