ITT: Villains that had fairly justified motives

They are perfectly free to find their own sources of water out in the wasteland.

I just wrote a long spiel on the subject of the conception of spiritual racial types and their principles within the framework of the ancient Greek mythological canon, and how the interplay between them in civilization leads to the growth and decay of culture, but after watching Mad Max Fury Road, I realized how perfectly these ideas align with it's story and I'm going to lay all of that out here.

First, let's look at the three main racial types and the characters that represent them within the story. First we have the Solar or Olympian race as the primary and definitive race who's paternal centrality all of the other races revolve and are defined by, which is expressed through Immortan Joe. The Solar principles of paternal masculine virility are given the connotation of divinity and Godliness, symbolically represented as the sky and most important in this context the sun, the luminescence of which defines the next racial type, the Demetrian or Lunar race. The Lunar race is expressed through the symbol of the moon, and like the moon which is given it's luminescence by the light of the sun, the Lunar race draws it's principles from others, with a compulsion towards naturalistic law rather than the celestial law of Olympian civilization and given the connotation of matriarchal fertility and femininity, which is represented by Immortans brides.

Standing opposite the Solar race and the Olympian man is the Telluric, or earth born race and the Titanic man, who we see through the character of Mad Max himself. While the Olympian man is defined by a calm, knowing dominance, a natural centrality of being and a sense of spiritual supernaturalness that imposes both fear and admiration, which we see through the citadel of Immortan Joe and the devotion of his war boys, the Titanic man is defined by an inner instability and a compulsion only towards instinctual immediacy in thought and action, which we see through Max being driven only by survival.

easy as that

The arrival of the Titanic man within a civilization dominated by the Solar principle of the Olympian man threatens it's centrality and spiritual superiority. The presence of Telluric forces within Solar culture results in the liberation of forces previously restrained and subjugated by a higher or divine law, Telluric forces more easily emerging in women, and in the context of this discussion it emerges as the liberation of the Lunar race of femininity. When the Lunar race is subjected to the abuse of the Olympian or faced with the instability of the Titanic man, the Lunar femininity violently rematerializes as the Amazonian race asserting it's own masculinity to oppose the Solar and Telluric masculinities in an effort to restore the matriarchal Lunar principle. We see this through Furiosa and the Vulvalini. The Titanic man side by side with the newly liberated Amazonian and Telluric races mark the final stage of decay and destruction within the Solar civilization. This in essence, encompasses the entirety of the conflict in Mad Max Fury Road, the cosmic cycle of rising and descending Solar and Lunar principles in conflict with one another.

What this movie could have captured better though, is that neither the nature of Titanic race nor the Amazonian race are fit for the dignity usurped from the Olympian man, the Amazonian lacking the transcendent spiritual alignment of the Olympian man with his Solar principle, and the Titanic man's instability leading only to constant upheaval, the Telluric race known to only bring about an existence in the desert. We see an example of what the alignment of the Telluric principles with the matriarchal principles of the Lunar race in the desolate existence the Vulvanini created for themselves apart from the luminescent centrality of the Solar principle that it needs to define itself.

Mad Max Fury Road is a mythological battle between Olympian and Titanic forces, ending with the usurpation of Zeus by the Amazons

Immortan Joe is babby's first edgy MRA villain.

General Jack D. Ripper was truly justified in his actions.

sure, but its hard to imagine a society in a world like this held together by anything but strong use of force and authority.

Otherwise after a short time it would just be anarchy again.

>established alliances in the wasteland without having to become a lone wolf, even if he was a little despotic
Weren't the other important guys his family?

>Hitler
>just killed Jews
>just wanted to help his nation
>gave his chosen people all they wanted
>maybe you've got some growing up to do
You stupid idiot. Go eat some crayons, retard. Go mix some kool aid powder into bleach and drink it up. You fucking simpleton.

He did what he thought he had to do.

Wouldn't you approve of Furiosa taking over then? In the end, she was simply stronger than Joe and took what was his by force. The strong rule the wasteland and the weak (Joe and his family) perish.

The citadel dwellers are the unstable Telluric race living only by their instinctual immediacy under the domination of the Solar principle. In the same way we see the relationship between the dominant masculine Solar and the passive feminine Lunar in the luminescence of the moon being a reflection of the centrality of the suns light, we see the relationship between the Solar and the Telluric expressed symbolically through the imagery of the earth being given shape and definition by the life giving rays of sun and the rain from the sky.

This notion leads to another key aspect of the interplay between the spiritual races in the role sexuality and it's liberation from the Solar principle emerges. Solar sexuality is expressed most clearly through the mythological figures of the sky father Uranus, the active masculine force that gives shape to the world and the earth mother Gaia, the passive unformed matter that is the object of the sky fathers design. Solar sexuality had a spiritual connotation beyond material and physical pleasure, as they saw their masculine phallic power as a divine source of life creation, the well spring from which whole generations flow. It imposes total impersonal subjugation of the earth mother and the feminine principle. From this, we see the Titanic man emerge from the Telluric race as a masculine ideal in alliance with his earth mother rather than it's subjugater compelled to liberate the feminine principle from the Solar.

This is where we see the Telluric and Lunar races aligned in their liberation, the moon also known as the "extinguished sun" or the "celestial earth", the matriarchal principles of the Lunar race one with the naturalistic laws of the Telluric race. The liberation of Lunar femininity by the Titanic man sees the Lunar race split into two extremes, the transfigured masculinity of the Amazonian, and the emergence of a new race, the Aphroditian, who's unrestricted girlish femininity brings a material opulence into culture

>PRECIOUS

>BODILY

There are none chosen and those that use that (((moniker))) have affixed it by their own volition. Black hole sun shall was the rain away

tl;dr faggot

He wasn't even a villain really. Just someone who believed the end justified the means and he was fucking right.

hes not the villain at all

Joe was homosexual.

t. the comic book

No they were his fellow soldiers.

what do you mean "approve"? There is nothing right about a situation like that in the first place. Furiosa found a weakness in Joe: His women.

She used this to kill him and topple his order, it remains to be seen if she can create a new one and if she does if it would be able to allow more freedom than Joes.

>didn't want the citizens of the Citadel to become addicted to water provided there was ever a shortage that would cause civil unrest
>helped manage an entire society of survivors and ensured them protection without asking for a significant amount of things in return
>established alliances in the wasteland without having to become a lone wolf, even if he was a little despotic
>really only bad thing was that he enslaved qts for a weird desert harem
>proud father

*sniff*

>addicted to water