Why do people like X-wings more than TIE fighters?
Is it just because TIEs belong to the "bad guys" and so most people subconsciously relate more to the rebel fighter?
Or is it design-related? Does one just look "cooler" than the other?
Does anyone think TIEs actually look better than X-wings?
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I kinda like the one Darth Vader flies. I think I like the r wing best of all though.
I think X-Wings have the better design.
I meant A wing
tie fighters have some great concepts, but i like the x wing more.
Tie Fighters are mass produced schlock with no shields. Darth Vader flew an Advanced Tie, a superior version, but never mass produced. I almost wonder why, but then again, the Empire probably would have won then.
X Wings are superior to Ties in firepower and defenses.
Aesthetically, the X wing is slightly mote memorable.
It is because TIE fighters are deathtraps. They are unshielded and have no hyperdrive; the empire doesn't care about individual survival, just ability to produce and launch tons of fighters at once.
Much like their ships' appearance, they are essentially the turret gunner from the WWII era; a critical task, but frequently deadly.
Why though? TIEs actually seem to have the more practical spacefaring design.
Interceptor is clearly the patrician choice as far as TIEs go.
>tfw no shields.
and what about Y-wings?
the worst, they seem like a cargo ship
>more practical spacefaring design
Tha fuck are you talking about? They are shit for spacefaring. They are limited to a handful of kilometers nearby a base or capital ship. They can't last for any stretch traversing space on their own!
Are most people thinking about the actual specs though?
Would they like the TIE more if it was the one with the heavier shields and weapons?
That's because they are a cargo ship. They deliver heavy bombs to targets.
In battlefront 2, the ties are the funnest to drive
Y and B wings were meant to be heavier assault craft for taking out frigates and cruisers. X and A were for dogfighting.
I think (and I'v never looked into the now non-canon expanded fluff that much so I'm probably wrong) it was because of budget constraints from turning into an Empire. As a result the Military while still superior to most foes had a much more limited budget compared to the Republic. As a result it was quantity over quality.
Was it ever explained why they were stripped down?
Something that gets easily raped and hardly ever wins is not something you would generally associate with.
X-Wings have shields. TIEs are just overwhelming in sheer numbers but expendable because the Empire has deep pockets.
A-Wing is really the boss though. Never fuck with an A-Wing.
I always liked the TIE fighter game more than X wing
a-wing is best because NYEEEEERRRRRRRRMMMMMMM
Talking mostly about the cockpit design.
As someone who has thousands of flight hours in both, I prefer the TIE.
That's because it is a superior game in all respects.
this.
And Tie Fighters just look evil and weird with all those rough edges.
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who /vwing/ here?
TIE pilots look way better than those silly rebel flight suits.
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all B-wings were like that or this was unique?
gotta be 18 to post here kid
So why are you here?
>not having atmospheric life support in your cockpit
top kek
i always thought tie fighters were boring as hell, but some of the sith / cis designs in the prequel had pretty cool designs. trade federation had cool looking tech too.
budget reasons.
literally the ugliest craft. the b-wing is fucking ridiculous too, albeit cool.
Thats new. B wings were just heavier Y wings with torpedos.
>needing pussy conditioning
This is why only numales and women like the terrorists.
>turbo boost
>cluster missiles
The GOAT wing of rogue squadron more like
That explains the new casting choices
Made maintenance easier and supposedly improved performance
This is a weird video. The rebels are being escorted by two corvettes, deadly to fighter craft, and yet they're worried about the Ties that would otherwise be meat to the corvettes.
I always imagined that the TIE fighters were reliant on their home craft so it made it much more difficult for their pilots to defect.
b-wing is superior to all
>not even capable of high altitude, much less leaving atmosphere
I think the TIE interceptors have the best design.
LAAT is the GOAT star wars tech.
Why do TIEs have big side panels that block peripheral vision?
It's sorta like asking whether you like the F-15 or the A-10 more. They're just not competitors in the same categories.
Tie Interceptor is the best fighter.
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Because a floating ball with no wings would be stupid.
>Why do people like X-wings more than TIE fighters?
Said nobody ever.
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To go faster. Same reason people strip down track cars.
This.
WHO FUCKING SPACE HINDS HERE
Xwing aren't as fast or nimble though.
i always thought tie fighters made up fire power for their lack of shields and xwings made up in defense over lack of fire power. which is why they needed 4 instead of two. this is all stuff I remembered from my wee lad days haven't looked anything up since then so..
The design of the X-wings is more in line with fighter planes which the audience would already know so they're familiar and comforting. The warm grey paint adds to this with the red highlights providing vitality.
Tie fighters are a much more abstract unfamiliar design, they are basically flying eyeballs with weird flat wings and have a cool, dark color scheme. They look intimidating but not particularly effective, cementing them as fodder for the heroes and also making Vader and his Tie Advanced look a lot cooler and more powerful.
To further dehumanise the tie fighters the pilots are always shown with closed helmets while X-wing pilots always have their faces visible.#
I think most people do empathise with the heroes more, but then I definitely liked playing as the bad guys more as a kid too so who knows. I think though that people would rather be a random guy in an X-wing than a random Tie fighter pilot.
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Tie fighters are cool as fuck.
REPORTING IN
Gunships and ARC-170s are tippy top tier
Tie 4 life
>Why do people like X-wings more than TIE fighters?
Phallic objects. TIE Fighters are vaguely vaginal and subliminally threatening to the young men that love these movies
TIE Interceptor > Vader's TIE Fighter > B Wing > A Wing > X Wing > TIE Fighter > Y Wing > TIE Bomber
"Super" (Executor Class) Star Destroyer > *
I don't like the ball turrets, but everything else is fucking GOAT
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That's what A wings were for. X wings were meant to be a balance of firepower, speed and defenses, which is why they were the most prevalent.
How JUST of a TIE do you want brah?
>T.I.E. Fighter
>TIE Fighter
nani
>TIE Oppressor
where is the tie land rover.
The Tie Mauler? The best vehicle for running over your own troops.
>twin ion engine
>has 3 ion engines
Crupe.
Why do the rebel ships need big obvious engines while the tie fighters are just a cockpit with wings?
Because Rebel ships had to be easily identifiable to people, so they looked somewhat like fighter jets of the time, and TIEs had to look menacing, and yet like a mook at the same time.
they strip down race cars to minimize the effect of wind and air resistance
there's no wind or air in space
hahahahah, maybe they changed it. I'm remembering from the essential guides. the treads were rectangular.
More mass still requires more force to move, air resistance or not.
in space?
the engines of the x-wing generate energy from fuel. tie fighters are solar powered, the wings are solar panels
Based Space Nazis thinking of the environment.
>Be 6 years old
>First tour on the Corps, designated FNG even if we are all white as snow.
>Deploying in 'Nosis, shit hole full of bugs that want to eat us
>CO says we have to evac some VIPs I don't care about
>Open side door, see those fucking Golfs shooting at us
SOME FOLKS ARE BORN
FULL OF MIDICHLORIANS
SURE THEY CAN BEND SPOONS
BUT WHEN THE ARMY CALLS TO FILL SOME BOOTS
OHH THEY AIN'T THERE NO MORE
IT AINT' SHEEV
IT AIN'T SHEEV
AIN'T NO FORCE-USER SON
That design is fucking stupid. Those turrets are way too exposed for literally no reason. It's too vertical and top-heavy, it'd tend to roll when landing. The two forward turrets are limited in angle for no reason, thus making the ball design pointless.
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Tie fighters are cool, they also let you wear the cooler outfit when you are the pilot.
Yea and the Death Star was completely powered by their trash compactors
George Lucas knows only the rule of cool.
And has no sense of what's cool.
Trash compactors that were so environmentally friendly that monsters grew in them.
kek 10/10 if not pasta
That's the Tie Crawler. Yes they made two different tanks out of the Tie Fighter.
kek
yeah F=ma doesn't work in space
fucking retards
Vader's TIE was cool and imposing. The other TIEs are neat but not as cool as the sleek X-Wings.
On top of being inferior they have two massive blind spots, which also happen to make big targets.
A-Wing and X-Wing are the buddy cops, getting into sexy adventures and fucking shit up.
Y-Wing is the old pro getting too old for this shit.
B-Wing is the dumbass new guy who gets shot and spends the movie in a hospital bed.
e-wing best
>laser cannon right above canopy
>get blinded every time you pull the trigger
>only 2 engines
>engines are far from the center of mass
>only 3 guns
>boring as fuck, battlestaresque design
just EU garbage we luckily never had to see.
oh yeah!
Pretty sure he was just being silly. I think the reason they stripped them down was because as a rebellion, they need as much supplies as they can get their hands on, and you can strip a fair amount of metal off the Y-wing and keep it flying.
TIE's have no fucking shields, they break apart with a few hits. They also have no warp capacity. It's like honeybees vs giant japanese hornets
See X-wing and TIE Fighter
>Why though?
Sorry for the late reply, but probably the folding wings.
harder to hit with lasers, tighter cornering, faster acceleration and deceleration
I assumed it was part of the whole "used future" aesthetic. The Y-wing was an old-ass fighter the rebels were using because they had to. They were stripped-down because they had undergone tons of repairs over the years.
>tfw you rescue the Emperor
>TIE Star Cruiser
holy fuck i can't stop laughing it looks like a fucking RV in space
people like winners the ties dont win at anything
>RV in space
you rang?
LONESTAR.
Love to see a space pirate crew manning one of these years after the Clone Wars
I'd rather see something like a Skipray Blastboat for that.
very nice
>Nearly 7 million views
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Has any other Cred Forums regular surpassed him?
>Tfw there will never be a story about a rogue Clone fleet turned to piracy, roaming around the outer rim
any shipfag will tell you. the only card the rebels hold in the war is how good their fighters are ( and intelligence gathering)...otherwise the rebels get btfo.
so I don't understand this video, I never will.
Superior strategy will beat superior weaponry almost every time. Plus the empire always has the numbers.
>Imps ambush a tiny Rebel convoy
>Destroy them with overwhelming numbers
What is there to not understand?
There's a reason it's called a force multiplier, but even then the force after multiplication has to be larger than the force it's taking on. The Empire's strategy was sheer numerical and firepower superiority.
Plus, the Rebs' real advantage is having the heroes in it. And even then, the ONLY reason they won at Endor was Luke alone. Jedi change the equation. In terms of a symmetrical military conflict the Rebels got their shit handed to them.
who here /LamdaGunship/?
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is he eating a 12" sub?
>Is it just because TIEs belong to the "bad guys" and so most people subconsciously relate more to the rebel fighter?
But the Empire are the good guys
Nah man. He stopped at chipotle for a burrito.
Underrated.
all the super-powered animu shit in the animation. it doesn't fit with the star wars aesthetic.
It was a series of terrorist propaganda flicks, and most people fell for it.
Shoulda had Highway to the Danger Zone playing instead
How dare you!
TIE Hunter is most aesthetic
Patrician
Give the TIEs to the Alliance and X-Wings to the Empire and suddenly the Rebels look a lot more like space terrorists.
It would probably ruin the aesthetics, but it really should have a much wider window, since it's one of the only ones that could have peripheral vision thanks to the wings.
I probably put more thought into that than the people who designed it. I love TIEs, but it's retarded to design a fightercraft that has like a 40 degree window of vision, even more so when you consider it is in outer space.
>if you give the good guys the bad guy ships they look like bad guys
astute observation
wrong
tie bombers are goat depending on the pilot
>>engines are far from the center of mass
This is a GOOD thing. The further from the center of mass, the more force an engine can apply to turning. It's like closing a door with your pinky finger: pushing near the hinges is much harder than pushing at the edge.
As for forward movement, your engines are hopefully engineered enough to thrust simultaneously, at which point what matters more is the rigidity of your wing support.
the confusing thing is what it does for vertical rotation. I suppose there could be thrust vectoring in the engines, or small thrusters in the nose that point the craft up/down.
This is why I like the Star Furies of Babylon 5. Their engines' locations make a lot of sense. Also since they can thrust from the front or back, they can move or rotate in any direction they wish. They even have small ports on the top and sides for strafing maneuvers.
>needing a shield when you could just not get hit
git gud rebel scum
Oops, won't get angry comments without the superior starship being pictured.
The problem here isn't engineering (because well engineered starships would be boring).
It just looks like shit.
>thinks the look of pure whoop-your-ass-in-space is inferior
There's nothing aesthetically wrong with Star Furies. The only thing off in the previous pic are the heat sinks for the engines, which are more streamlined. Or if you wish, sci-fi hand wave them away by placing the heat sinks on the wings.
MOVE IT, OLD GEEZERS!
SUPERIOR RIDES COMIN' THROUGH!
Eclipse class super star destroyer > Executor