I'd take BVS's nonsensical plot over this colorless mundane shit anyday.
Jesus fucking Christ, how can you even compare the two? Batman V Superman looks like an actual film whereas Marvel's crap looks like a TV show.
Not even a DC fanboy, I just can tell the difference between a visual masterpiece with many flaws and a bland soulless piece of consumeristic garbage made solely for selling merch to kids.
And you wanna know the real joke? Both have the same fucking budget.
Kevin Davis
>it looks like a TV show
I'll never understand this criticism but it keeps being used as if it's somehow supposed to be this glaring misstep.
Tell me what you actually mean by this.
Evan Lee
Civil War and BVS were both fucking terrible, the worst films of their respect brands... why are faggots still talking about them?
Easton Howard
I'd say Civil War is actually a really solid allegory on the divisiveness in the U.S. right now.
It's basically a movie about gun control.
Blake Cooper
If only Snyder wasn't obsessed with CGI.Motherfucker loves CGI more than his wife.
Ethan Kelly
It was supposed to be, until the turned it into a love story between two 90 years old dudes with a guy in a papermache armor as the love rival.
Jaxon Perry
>I'd take BVS's nonsensical plot over this colorless mundane shit anyday. of course you would
Blake Lee
it's been six months guy get over it.
Angel Hill
I really do. I liked The Winter Soldier, Ant-Man, GotG and the first Iron Man film, at least they were entertaining and had redeeming qualities.
Jonathan Bell
That disappointed me, too. They really could have gone places with that, the built-in Guantanamo analogy, too.
Jonathan Martinez
Yeah but BvS was full of actions without immediate explanations. How did Lex know Superman's identity huh? There should have been a scene where one of Lex's goons is hiding in the bushes when Clark talks to Martha and at the end he should radio Lex and tell him they have a confirmation Also, why was the fight only like short? In a film called Batman V Superman, the entire film should be one long fight scene
And what was with Superman dying? Superman can't die! And they're gonna bring him back in the next film so it's completely pointless. What's the point in having superheroes if they're just gonna die. And I know, he's supposed to Jesus, real subtle Snyder, but they could'e done it in a less blatant way. If that's all the depth the film had, no wonder it failed. Honestly, I found myself nearly falling asleep halfway through cause everything was so depressing and boring
Compare that to Civil War where you have these heroes fighting but who genuinely don't want to. And they're real heroes. It's ambiguous because neither of them are the clear morally just fighters. When Tony kept fighting Cap and Bucky at the same time, I was nearly in tears! And the film never gets boring because everything's clearly explained and they still manage to have some light-hearted jokes so we don't get too depressed. We're hear to have fun afterall!
I mean I'm team Cap because of my strong libertarian background, but team Tony makes loads of sense too. And I say this as someone who always hated the self-righteousness of Captain America. In Batman v Superman, they were both so angry. I just wanted them both to get some counselling
Know what I mean?
Ryan Rogers
Robert Downey Jnr's performance in Civil War urinates from the very heights of Olympus on both Henry "Forty Two lines" and Batfleck in BvS.
Kevin Gomez
Fuck no, Batfleck was the shit. Guy was born to play Batman.
Gavin Bennett
Not going to tackle all your points, because I'm mobile right now and it's a pain in the ass, but Lex knew who Superman was before the plot even started. They also had devised some method of tracking him that not even the CIA had access to.
Austin Walker
Fucking A, he was. My favorite portrayal yet.
Tyler Martin
samefagg harder
Lincoln Hughes
>How did Lex know Superman's identity huh? There should have been a scene where one of Lex's goons is hiding in the bushes when Clark talks to Martha and at the end he should radio Lex and tell him they have a confirmation
I would have loved this movie i that happened
Kayden Sanders
>Marvel's crap looks like a TV show.
I dont buy this at all. I wil agree that the first avngers movie looked like a tv show. But everything after that felt like a normal movie would. Thats why I personally found age of ultron a bit jarring. I was like holy shit. Whedon got his shit together it actually looks like a movie this time around. The way it was shot and everything.
Jack Perry
which one are you, OP
>Now that the dust has settled >He was a good friend >who will play him in the inevitable biopic >reddit >cartoons >cuck >you’re a big guy for you >it ain’t me >JUST >KINO >What did he mean by this >DROPPED >Finally, after all these years, i have become >What’s his endgame >apologize >It’s a.. episode >Mom’s gonna freak >HOTHEAD >What went wrong >What was his fucking problem >dumb frog poster >What’s next for his/her career >We want the… audience >Really makes you think >Luke did I ever tell you… he was a good friend >How did Raimi get away with this? >BRAVO >What’s his name again? >It’s not a… it’s a movie/film/cinema/flick >Just watched this, what do I think of it? >P O T T E R Y >What were they thinking? >JUST >capeshit whining >Star Wars shit rumors >cuckpost >Star Wars shit whining >Ghostbusters whining >shitty show general >nu-male >capeshit company wars >/r9k/ >celeb said this on social media whining >gender / race of cast whining >AYO HOLE UP >interracial porn >capekino >"movies women will never understand" >SJW falseflagging >waifu thread >"Me on the left" >it aint me starts playing >"is it kino?" >Who will play [unrelated to film & television] in the inevitable biopic? >eceleb trash >[unrelated to film & television] black person doing anything >reddit >celebrity's personal lives drama >persecution complex whining >wtf I hate [unrelated to film & television] now! >wannabe Cred Forums from Cred Forums >"What did [unrelated to film & television] mean by this?" >WE WUZ >unflattering pic of celebrity >screencap + forced meme from shitty movie >HOWEVER >Really makes you think >quote from Spider-Man movie altered to include edgy humor >PAN. HOT. >screencap of RT score of blockbuster >Late night talk show host is... *Cred Forums leans forward in anticipation*.... a cuck! *Cred Forums erupts in applause* >HAHAHA etc >meme appropriation >shill >It's a truman _ episode > _______ character did nothing wrong > just marathoned _______
Samuel Cooper
nigger, not even the haters hated Affleck's portrayal of Batman
Robert Adams
AOU looked pretty good. Civil War? Nope.
Grayson Rogers
>Not even a DC fanboy >visual masterpiece
nice try m8
Brandon Lewis
You're an idiot.
Zachary Lewis
Haven't seen civil war yet, but I watched BVS last night. What was everyones problem with BVS again? I thought it was pretty fucking good. Maybe a little slow at times, but overall I enjoyed the flick.
Adrian Flores
Basically the critics and marvel fanboys were complaining about it not being like a marvel movie
Oliver Flores
It was too dramatic and dark and the characters didn't vocally and clearly introduce each new scene
Bentley Smith
>muh too dark and gritty >supes never smiles at the camera >batman is murderman >lex luthor? more like the joker xD >uhh too long >hurr my redditbros didn't like it, better jump on the bandwagon
Xavier Turner
That's not an inaccurate assessment. Couple that with the "professional critics" pushing blatantly obvious political agendas, and you've pretty much covered it.
Oliver Cox
i can't tell if this is satirical
Aiden Ward
Hellboy > BvS > Civil War
Aiden White
Needed moar L__A__G__O__S.
Logan Nguyen
Its a good movie, I unironically prefer it to Civil War. Only problem I had was that WB required so much to be crammed in to just one movie that the final act seemed rushed to fuck.
Should have been 2 movies and kept the Doomsday + Justice league setup for the 2nd movie. Snyders original cut was 4 hours long
Benjamin Sullivan
I'm with you. I really liked Hellboy, too.
Henry Lopez
god that was so annoying
Jaxson Turner
It had superheroes but they were grounded in reality and while they had quips the movie took itself seriously
>tfw Ron Pearlman wants to finish the trilogy but Del Toro is too busy
James Brooks
>id take meaningless garbage that tries to masquerade as something greater than a generic hollywood blockbuster there is literally no better definition for pretentious
especially for a fucking capeshit movie
Cooper Sanders
>It was too dramatic and dark
I wish. Civil War despite being good it feels rushed imo. It doesnt feel like it had the time and care winter soldier did. Feels less crafted. The turn around time for these movies is ridiculous. Winter soldier came out April 2014. 26 months later Civil War was out in May 2016. Thats not a lot of time.
Ryder Bennett
>muh plot >muh fanboy manchild things I don't watch comics or whatever, but Zack Snyder is an objectively gifted director, this was a good film.
Xavier Anderson
> Zack Snyder is an objectively gifted director Literally can't stop laughing right now
John Anderson
Literally the only questionable thing Snyder does is occasional use of snap zoom, and even that's really more an issue of the DP.
Brayden Hall
>Zack Snyder is an objectively gifted director He's so dense
Grayson Hall
> Literally the only questionable thing I dunno if you are meme-ing or not, but thanks. I've been feeling genuinely depressed for the last few days and your posts made me laugh.
Sebastian White
>consumeristic
Nathan Rogers
Snyder is an awful director. The performances under his direction are always bland and dour, he overuses melodramatic framings and religious imagery to pass the movie off as being "deep", and his grandiose action scenes are messes of CGI with no sense of urgency.
But he can occasionally frame pretty shots and direct good hand-to-hand fighting.
Justin Cooper
Pleb detected
Christopher Reed
Fuck off pleb
People like you dont give Zack enough credit Yes he likes to use imagery/symbolism but its often subtle and serves a purpose in further exploring the characters
Jack Ortiz
Omg, please let this happen.
Nathan Hill
How can Marvel even compete?
Ryan Long
No, you're an idiot.
Jeremiah Jenkins
All I can remember from Civil War is a lackluster villain, non existent score and orange slices.
Why did it get raved about so much? I thought it was ok but it was far from great
Parker Gray
>have a bow as your weapon >rush into close combat like a fucking tool
Carter Foster
I also liked how they had to edit Scarlet Witch propelling herself in the air for no damn reason because Elizabeth Olsen couldn't keep the pace with the rest of the team while filming.
Camden Ward
Honestly the fight between Superman and Batman was brutal as fuck and shot really well. They both had a ton of weight and get slam or punch felt strong as fuck.
Dominic Sanchez
Cred Forums is meme kino
Easton Wood
>Not even a DC fanboy
You guys get more pathetic by the day.
Julian Gomez
...
Aaron Gray
Batfleck was one of the better performances ever in capeshit.
Blake Murphy
>Not even a DC fanboy, I just can tell the difference between a visual masterpiece with many flaws and a bland soulless piece of consumeristic garbage made solely for selling merch to kids I audibly laugh at posts like these.
Josiah Green
>we need to introduce Spider-Man because we're gonna make a movie with him in it later >well how about we devote a scene to him being recruited, feature him in a fight, and give audiences an idea of his personality and a hint of what his movie might be about
>we need to set up these four characters for a Justice League movie >okay, we'll give Wonder Woman like three minutes of screentime, two of which will be spent watching youtube clips of the other characters we need to establish
Angel Bennett
Maybe you should watch the Hollis Mason death scene from the director's cut of Watchmen then kill yourself for being an unbearable fuckin pleb.
Jacob Smith
>chocolate strawberry wtf, it's not even a choice at this point. caramel crunch all the way
Colton Martinez
I unironically prefer the DC approach.
Jack Torres
Eisenberg ruined the movie for me. Terrible casting choice.
Nicholas Roberts
Why didn't they pick the guy from Breaking Bad again? That would have been perfect casting.
Ryder Ward
The best thing DC could have done was have every character already established and just show up as if this world is already lived in.
Jeremiah Cox
It means that BvS has all its scene shot at night or in the dark, so it's adult. But the Civil War fight scene was shot in daytime, so it's a kiddy cartoon.
Eli Watson
I like that we don't get all the answers just spoon fed to us chronologically, instead leaving us with mysteries we'll get the answers to as the story progresses. That's one of my biggest criticisms of the MCU - all the plots are just a little too self-contained with the overarching story a little too obviously shoehorned in or tacked on post-credits.
It works on occasion. The comics do it too, from time to time, but not every "episode."
The DC approach feels a bit more immersive and organic, less formulaic.
Jordan Morris
>not even a DC fanboy
pardon me while I laugh.
Connor Perez
Winter Soldier = GotG > Iron Man > Captain America > Avengers > Iron Man 2 > Thor 2 > Thor
Jaxon Bailey
Oh, do tell me, what's the deep subtext behind that shot?
Matthew Rivera
Walt Jr? He'd play a horrible Let Luthor.
Julian Nguyen
Why did the ranged heroes charge into the melee?
Nathan Gray
>I can just tell
Obviously not, there's a difference between depth of field and just doing a lot of slow-mo effects.
Not only was CW the better story, it was the better-made film.
And the Russos aren't even the best directors in the MCU.
Thomas Hughes
Do you think Snyder chose not to directly adapt The Dark Knight Returns because he knows he couldn't do it justice or because he thinks the story his team came up with is better?
Luke Gomez
Because WB told him that he had to introduce the Justice League and because a direct adaptation wouldn't have fit with the theme of subverting audiences' expectations
But nice shitpost
Jace Sullivan
TDKR, outside of the stellar prologue, was uniformly terrible.
Connor Butler
TDKR would have never fit within the established continuity. It takes place in an unremittingly dark and dystopian future where the heroes have either abandoned humanity, retired, or in the case of Superman, sold out to the state.
Furthermore, it even ends with only the barest hint of hope for the future, whereas the DCEU team has already gone on record stating that the intention was always to proceed from a darker tone more toward the light.
One could even argue that by starting in a deconstructed Nolan-sequel setting and moving toward a lighter, more comic-booky tone, they're commenting on the pitfalls of deconstructionism and how it's the death of the comic book hero as myth.
Jack Roberts
It means that Civil War is shot from awkward stationary angles alternating with rapid cuts, with horrible shot composition - expected from a common-o-garden TV show due to low budget and inexperienced directors, not from a 300 mil Hollywood movie
Colton Wood
Please let this be bait.
Gavin Mitchell
You are blind?! Cleary is a fish in the wall, that means Superbald are into Aquaman!
Plus christ and illuminatis, all are here!
Hudson Nguyen
Did anyone else get Power Ranger vibes from the beginning of Civil War? I liked the rest of the movie fine but that part just seemed way too jumpy and flippy, complete with costumed and masked bad guys mugging at the camera.
Carter Scott
I'd agree with this, and Civil War's plot isn't really any better than BvS.
Daniel Baker
It's not about being adult, it's that it looks cooler. Which is important. Most of Civil War is set in conference rooms, stylish apartments, and an airport, the most boring, generic looking spaces that exist.