Why don't you watch wrestling ?
Keep in mind,
>"Because the media tells me it's for rednecks and I follow what the media tells me to be because I can't think for myself,"
and
>"Because it's fake, unlike Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad which are real."
Are not acceptable answers tbw
Both a and b
>>"Because it's fake, unlike Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad which are real."
Who said this?
cause it's gay desu
Have you seen any given RAW lately its fucking brutal smackdown is better but not good the product died with kayfabe
Because I'm not a fan of homoerotica 2bh
It's fake and gay.
Also, all the wrestlers now are fat manlets.
It has shitty acting and shitty writing.
Wrestling is real
I don't watch Raw because it's real bad. Some stuff on Smackdown is OK.
I'm looking forward to Kenny Omega vs Okada at the tokyo dome.
i always thought it was fake and gay when i was a kid. i went to a coworkers to drink a few years ago and he was watching some. it was funny but i wouldnt watch it unless i was drunk
Never seen the media say word one about wrestling and "muh rednecks". All the latinos I grew up with fucking loved WWF and Stone Cold Steve Austin
Because it's boring as fuck. My friends have been trying to get me interested for over a year, and ot just isn't happening.
I got a free ticket to go see Raw Live with them, and was still bored.
Because they've tried to make it too real instead of being over the top psychotic. I need big personalities doing retarded shit while destroying their bodies for my amusement.
Because it's 90% dumb shit as far as gimmicks go anymore, the storylines vary from passable to borderline retarded, and what few bits are worthwhile aren't worth however many hours a week I have to waste watching it to bother trying to keep up.
>t. some faggot whose brother is 25 years old and still watches wrestling all the time
I liked it when I was like 12, dude. After that it really is a sign of being a retard.
As someone who watches it, I don't know how the fuck anyone new could get into the current product.
>Three hours of Raw
>Two hours of Smackdown (Raw should be two, then it might do as well as Smackdown is right now)
>MAYBE a Cruiserweight show separate from Raw coming
>NXT (you could probably skip this with all the talent that went to the main product with the split
>PAY PER VIEWS EVERY TWO WEEKS
It's exhausting.
Why don't I just watch boxing and MMA which has all the same drama but with guys actually hitting each other for real?
Because it sucks and has sucked for over a decade.
that shit isnt the least bit interesting. i mean i used to watch it when i was a kid. i remember moving as a kid and i used to watch it all the time and i lived with my aunt for one year and i put that shit on once and she was like dont watch that dumb shit. and i didnt even protest i just turned it off. it meant nothing to me to stop watching it. its great when youre a kid but how can you be an adult and enjoy it. nothing new ever happens. they rehash the same story with new people. the same shit has happened for 30 years and the only thing thats changed in the people involved.
I only watch the 4 big PPVs
>summerslam
>tlc
>royal rumble
>mania
oh and botchamania
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it's shit
Not really big on watching meaty guys in tights grapple with one another
it's just not appealing on any level.
it can dip into kino at times
I like wrestling but I dont watch it much, maybe a couple shows a year on a stream.
It sucks because they treat heels(bad guys) like complete idiots, mostly to do with the pg-13 clean show theyre trying to show but it really hampers a lot of the guys who are given the heel roles.
>current champion is a fat neckbeard
That shit at tension build during a tag team match
>both participants in ring are knock down
>"""""""tension""""""" mounts as both wrestlers try to tag out
>crawl
>crawl
>peek over shoulder at the other guy to see how far he is
>crawl
>peek over shoulder again
>crawl
>crawl
>peek over shoulder
>crawl
>crawl
>peek over shoulder and see that he's finally on his mark
>lunge and tag out
Every other fucking tag team match it fucking happens.
The WWF has been at this shit for over half a century and they still haven't come up with a better way to keep those two crawling assholes on the same timetable?
I used to. I stopped watching because of the guy in the OP pic, ironically. He's so boring. Haven't gone back since
Ironically he looks like a lot of the fanbase
Really all you need to know about this goofy franchise. It's NASCAR without cars.
Because it's shit.
I basically skip through the matches and just watch the promos at this point. These shows can't handle three hours.
They can't handle 2, honestly.
I watch lucha underground and it's pretty fucking sweet, never really watched "real wrestling" though.
Because of episodes like last night's Raw. Fuck it was dogshit.
Because it doesn't have the same drama, at all. Call me when a man drinks his own testical juice in an MMA storyline.
Anything since 2010 was shit
Because I grew up.
Lost interest not long after Invasion. Wrestlemania 19 was the last time I watched, and I watched that for based Hogan. I still play the games though depending on content.
Broken MAtt hardy & co are really the most exciting thing happening to wrestling right now, last sundays ppv match was all kinds of cheesy exploitation gimmicks. Gotta love the hardy boys.
Do what I and my brother do, we just watch the highlights.
It's not particularly in terms of writing or delivery of the dialogue. Some impressive athletic feats no doubt but if I wanted to see that i'd watch some sports.
If I have fun while watching something then I know it's bad
I do occasionally. Just not wwe because they squander their talent and pump out the same tired shit week after week.
NXT was good though.
Because there is no good wrestling to watch anymore. You need good wrestlers, sure, but you need some stars too. And there are no more stars in wrestling.
I still watch old Nitro episodes from time to time but there's just nothing like that going on these days.
Because my nostalgia prevents me.
> He thinks UFC is real.
I watch Smackdown from time to time ever since the recent split, but I haven't watched Raw ever since the change to 3 hours. Horrible use of their talents, McMahons and HHH still taking the dominant authority approach for what feels like a decade now, and the general lack of interest contributed to it.
Just watch Smackdown. NXT is eh.
And make sure to keep up on BROKEN MATT HARDY
Lol the WWF was for kids. It outright sucked and I'm positive it still does.
Every match was interrupted, every one of them could have been ruled out by disqualification. You couldn't see a decent 1 vs 1 even on the jobber level bouts. It was all about WCW, they had Hulk Hogan, Benoit, Nash, Hall, the Steiner Bros., Flair, Eddie Guerrero, Goldberg, the Giant, Sting, Luger, Rey Mysterio Jr. etc.. etc..
All the while WWF had the same bullshit over and over again: Shawn Micheals vs. HHH vs. Brett Hart (who went to WCW) vs. the Undertaker. And they would always fuck with each others matches constantly. The only good thing they had was Stone Cold beating up Vince Mcmahon every week, the amount of fucks he didn't give was astronomical
Shitting all over his boss like that still is beyond anything anyone has ever done
I'm over the age of 18.
Whats with all this smackdown talk? I havent watched in over a year but it was always the garbage one. (even when raw was liquid shit)
Whats changed?
What are you doing dude?
>WWF was for kids
Well yeah, we were in kindergarten-2nd grade...everyone moved onto "pokeyman" by the beginning 2nd grade
There's one thing with watching and then there's that which is autistic
And yet you come to Cred Forums
Because it's fake and gay and blood is ketchup hahahaha amirite
brand split. smackdown took midcarders and theyre building storylines with them getting the talent over properly (look at how over heath slater is) while RAW is all about stephanie and her STRONK WOMEN agenda. plus RAW is fucking brutal at 3 hours
Because I could watch a action movie instead and get 10000x better experience.
It just doesn't hold my interest. Although I find wrestling promos amusing.
>RAW is fucking brutal at 3 hours
>not just watching WWE's youtube clips, PPVs and NXT specials
I got tired of the WWE product after wrestlemania XXX. Still enjoy a good match but haven't found any new wrestling that I enjoy and dunno what to jump in to
Smarks
how?
Later mark
Because it sucks?
Because its extremely poorly written
Got bored of it in 2009ish and never went back to revisit it.
>Ziggler had a retirement match against Miz
>Smarks got happy since there's a chance he will leave for real
>Ziggler won
>Smarks got mad
>They won't accept that they got worked
That was one of the recent interesting storyline that came out so far and still smarks complains about it
modern "wrestlers" dont have charisma or any awareness on the mic and if they do creative limits them.
I haven't watched since the late 90s
>it's a chris jercho trolls goldberg/malenko episode
those were the days
Because the pacing is bad, the actors are bad, it's characters are weak, the fighting is repetitive and uninteresting. It's bad.
hes still crushing it with his list schtick hes got going now
I'll add that I did like it when I was 13 or so. I'm really old, those were the days of Brutus the Barber Beefcake and Jake the Snake.
>Brutus the Barber Beefcake
>interesting
Ed Leslie pls go
I don't watch wrestling because I've no interest in seeing baby oiled covered muscle men rubbing up against each other in front of crowds of mostly children and clinically obese men.
I don't care what they do in the privacy of their own homes, but I'd appreciate them not flaunting this shit in public.
Two unlikable nobodies fight each other for the heavyweight championship
This is what wrestling has become, nobody will remember these guys. Wrestlers from the 80's are unforgettable but this new crop, they won't leave any kind of legacy. John Cena is one of the very few guys left that are carrying torch for WWE
Just did the math I was 6 when I last liked wrestling.
>heavyweight championship
It was for the intercontinental championship. You have no idea what you're talking about. Never speak about wrestling ever again until you put a modicum of due diligence into what you're saying.
I watched it in the '90s when I was a kid. WCW and the WCW vs.nWo games will never be topped.
kill yourself
...
>You couldn't see a decent 1 vs 1 even on the jobber level bouts.
>All the while WWF had the same bullshit over and over again: Shawn Micheals vs. HHH vs. Brett Hart (who went to WCW) vs. the Undertaker. And they would always fuck with each others matches constantly
Someone has selective memory about the NWO and Russo+Nash's bookings. Good lord.
intercontinental title, in the 80s kayfabe was still a thing and wrestlers have memorable gimmicks unlike the new shitters on tv today.
youtube.com
I dare you to try and make it thru the barely two mins without cringing
because wwe has become even more trash than it used to be.
be like me and watch superior joshi wrestling
>not watching TNA
>not watching subterranean lucha
>implying I have miedo
Delete yourself
>using the NWO as an example
>literally the biggest heels in history
>known for jumping other wrestlers backstage
>known for jumping in prospective members like a gang
>surprised when they cheat
Come on, you knew they were going to pull something. They even defaced the belt and left it like that for seemingly forever. Try harder, your scope of how things worked is incredibly narrow
So can someone explain what the fuck was this?
Are you a pleb? It's about a student confronting his mentor about how the mentor's been slipping. Hence why the mentor tries to cheap shot him, and he counters.
It's not kino by any stretch but it still resonates with people. Like how you notice your parents/mentors/teachers aren't the paragons you thought they were when you were a kid.
You were whining about HBK vs HHH vs Bret vs Taker doing the same shit endlessly, yet write off the NWO doing the same shit? That's a double standard, WCWbabby
I don't care that it's ""fake""
It's just not entertaining at all.
The brand split was probably the worst thing they could've done. Only now do they realize just how thin the talent crop is.
Kevin Owens is not top champion material. He wears a fucking shirt for gods sake. Who's gonna pay money to watch a guy that looks like he just got up off his couch. Plus no one cares about kayfabe anymore, you can have someone set another guy on fire in storyline but they'll be signing autographs and kissing babies at the airport terminal that very evening. Brock's the only one keeping the image alive and that's because he's just playing himself.
>hey we have emma how do you wanna repackage her?
>lets call her emmalina
New japan is the superior wrestling show
Because I don't give a shit and I don't watch BB or GoT either.
Lucha Underground is pure kino and only wrestling a grown man needs.
Because it is poorly written.
>no one cares about kayfabe anymore
guess thats why matts broken gimmick is failing since he refuses to break kayfabe.
he stood in character for over an hour with jericho
youtube.com
I watch indie stuff because I'm super hipster.
It's an awful soap opera for men. It was great when I was 12 but now it's fucking abysmally retarded and that's more attributed to me growing up than the quality of wrestling changing too much.
Matt's the exemption. No one else is putting in as much effort as a Matt is with his character.
most of my favorites are retired. Only wrestlers on the current roster I really look forward seeing are AJ and KO
Matt is like a Sith Lord of kayfabe. His gimmick is so powerful that there isn't any kayfabe left for anybody else. If more wrestlers stopped breaking kayfabe then Matt would grow weaker and would be forced to kill them.
>yet write off the NWO doing the same shit
They didn't do the same shit aside from not playing by the rules, that's the constant. Are you really using that to prove your point?
WWF/WWE on the other hand, was the same crap over and over again throughout the entire program. Every match at every level no matter who was involved played out the same way. Someone elses music starts playing, they run out and interrupt the match. Irregardless of who wins the wrestler who interrupted the match is hailed as the unofficial winner and is presented as such. Everyone has beef with someone in the locker room and they all harass each other during their matches.. repeat X1,000,000. DQ's don't matter.
This 100%
>the media tells me it's for rednecks
the media doesn't tell us it's for rednecks, wwe is IN media, our elders tell us that, just like how they tell us that Santa Claus is not real.
>Because it's fake, unlike Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad which are real
you forget an essential difference: those series exist on the precondition that the audience knows they are fiction and the bet is to suspend our disbelief, while wwe is based on a competition sport for which competitions are very real, and tries to convince us it has been real all along
because the stories are stupid and we'll never see workers like shawn michaels, kurt angle, [BLANK], and eddie gurerro ever again, jericho was near that level but he's let himself go massively, the golden age is passed ,and we'll never see the likes again.
If you think it's fiction then you should go post in a Dr. Who thread asap
AJ styles is legit the best wrestler on the roster
And he has no mic skills, a shitty look, no gimmick and he's 39
exactly, that's the how bad things are when a flippy midget is the best worker
This.
Wrestlers are rated on a scale of 1 to 10 in three areas:
>1. Wrestling Ability
>2. Mic / Promo Skills
>3. Look
Who on the WWE roster under the age of 35 scores a 7 or higher in all three?
it's a shame LU is the only promotion to do mixed wrestling, it's always great
KO, Roode, that japanese guy with the violin intro
The WWE is fucking shit, and so are its manbaby fans
Terribly booked, embarrassingly storytelling, some half-assed presentation where they want people to treat it like it's real while simultaneously making it impossible to do so
NJPW, LU, and even TNA (mainly because of Matt Hardy) are way better
Just go to /asp/ and take one look at the front page. That's why I don't watch wrestling.
>Plus no one cares about kayfabe anymore, you can have someone set another guy on fire in storyline but they'll be signing autographs and kissing babies at the airport terminal that very evening
You should try Lucha Underground and the Broken Matt Hardy saga
BECAUSE IT GOES FOR 3 FUCKING HOURS
I don't mind Lucha Underground though but I'm a casual fan at best
>3. Look
>scores a 7 or higher
>KO
Because it's not interesting to me.
ILL FADE AWAY AND CLASSIFY MYSELF AS OBSOLETE
Was Ultimate Warrior just doing kayfabe or did he actually go a bit cookoo in the end?
as much as i like wrestling (yes its fake and dumb, but hell it's fun to me so whatever)
I FUCKIN' HATE THAT DOUBLE-TAG CRAWL SHIT!!!
and it pretty much does happen in every tag match, it's fuckin' stupid.......even for wrestling
Thinking it's fake but "I still like it for the entertaiment value" horseshit proves you're the biggest mark of all
Get bent over a table fuckboi
If I wanted to watch a fight I'd watch MMA.
If I wanted to watch a drama I'd watch a show with actual direction and writing.
If I wanted to watch hot chicks roll around I'd watch lesbian porn.
>hurr it's all three in one though
If you had to build a house, would you hire just one guy who did plumbing, electric, and construction, but was garbage at all three?
Because I am straight and wrestling is incredibly gay. Two grown men in their underpants fondling each other has no appeal to me.