Still no HBO series about the Ottoman Empire

who cares

make one about the empire that protected a weak europe from the mudslimes for like a 1000 years before being backstabbed by dirty latin catholic pigs

>Zeppelin rules!

>greyscale figure ground
>using blue shades for classes
This triggers the cartographer

Same reason we venerate a mass murderer like Vlad. We will always fundamentally hate muslims. Liberals like to think they're different, see pre-reconquista spain. The difference is they're hypocrites. If you need any better evidence of this, look at who finances Dracula movies.

This

>venerate
>base monster books and movies on him

It must really be hell to be a lib, on one hand you have to support the poor "oppressed" "minorities", on the other hand those minorities have every single trait you reproach to your fellow white men, only magnified a hundredfold

I bet they have many sleepless nights wondering whether they should be feminists or pro-muslims or maybe they don't think at all and just gobble up whatever trash the media feeds them

>"Stop cowering and listen: a foresight is on me and I say with certainty that 565 years from now THEY STILL MAD lel"/"truly Sultan Mehmet you are the glorious Light of Wisdom!"

>Still no HBO series about Hernán Cortes
Why even live

>It must really be hell to be a lib

After deciphering that convoluted outpouring of gibberish I think it's safe to say you've got it worse.

>Still no movies about ancient Sumer

Why?

>Same reason we venerate a mass murderer like Vlad.
By making him into a villain and literal monster that is hurt by the sight of a cross?

why indeed? peace awaits, user

>having to "decipher" two lines of text
I'm so sorry user

imdb.com/title/tt1848220/

At least you got that right.

>still no HBO show about the Crusades
I'm glad, HBO shows are shit for plebs who care more about T&A than compelling characters in their shows.

>Still no HBO series on the forming of the Dutch republic and the rise of the Dutch golden age
>Still no HBO series on the rise of the Tokugawa shogunate
>Still no HBO series on the fall of the roman empire
>Still no HBO series on the conquests of Alexander the Great

We can go on and on...

>imdb.com/title/tt1848220/
It's not hbo tho here's a spoiler youtube.com/watch?v=mTYGStpAwzU

Thanks, sohave you decided?

The Ottoman court was basically GoT irl

I've already seen docus about the Ottoman Empite that glorify them.

>venerate Vlad
>literally turned him into one of pop culture's most iconic monsters

>get exposed
>nn-no-youre-d-dum

this tb.h

>maybe they don't think at all and just gobble up whatever trash the media feeds them

gj sparky

pretty sure there was a good 200+ years between the end of the Latin Empire and the fall of Constantinople to the Turks

Dracula is always portrayed as sympathetic.

>nn-no-youre-d-dum

Where does it say that?

Americans don't have a frame of reference therefore no audience

How about a HBO show about the life of Napoleon?

'no'

Something about kafir youtube.com/watch?v=_USZGUGftkk

There is literally an active move to secularize Christmas, you probably should have chosen a better picture.

t. Atheist in America.

191 years, my msistake

yeah if there's anything we need it's another Napoleon/Hitler series

no

No.

I would watch that.

Also that.

The Ottoman Empire was not real it was a myth made by the Turks to prove they didn't ruin the Byzantine empire and also to make people think the Armenian genocide didn't happen (it did)

...

Thus, on 25 July 1261, with most of the Latin troops away on campaign, the Nicaean general Alexios Strategopoulos found an unguarded entrance to the city, and entered it with 800 troops only, restoring the Byzantine Empire for his master, Michael VIII Palaiologos.

1452-1261=191

The Roman Empire didn't fall?

Thank the lord, where is it?

The last emperor [supposedly] died the day the city fell

Or did you mean to be a cheeky cunt and play on semantics?

>Before the beginning of the siege, Mehmed II made an offer to Constantine XI. In exchange for the surrender of Constantinople, the emperor's life would be spared and he would continue to rule in Mistra. As preserved by G. Sphrantzes, Constantine replied:

>"To surrender the city to you is beyond my authority or anyone else's who lives in it, for all of us, after taking the mutual decision, shall die out of free will without sparing our lives."

>Constantine led the defence of the city and took an active part in the fighting alongside his troops in the land walls. At the same time, he used his diplomatic skills to maintain the necessary unity between the Genoese, Venetian, and Greek troops.

>Constantine died the day the city fell, 29 May 1453. There were no known surviving eyewitnesses to the death of the Emperor and none of his entourage survived to offer any credible account of his death.[27] According to Michael Critobulus (writing later in Mehmed's service) he remarked, "The city is fallen and I am still alive."[28] Then he tore off his imperial ornaments so as to let nothing distinguish him from any other soldier and led his remaining soldiers into a last charge where he was killed.[29]

>Mehmed sent soldiers to search amongst the dead for his body. The first body that was believed to be the emperor's, a body that had silk stockings with an eagle embroidered in it, was decapitated and marched around the ruined capital. However, it failed to gather any recognition from the citizens of Constantinople.[30]

you mean the empire that allied with arabs during the crusades?

I was referring to the time span between the fall of the Latin empire and the fall of Constantinople you tard. Why are you posting this irrelevant shit?

apparently it survives in the proud hearts of Cred Forums neckbeards who wouldn't last a day as legionaries

The latin empire was immediately succeeded by the byzantine empire, what the fuck is your point, faggot?

>show is set in the 13th century middle east
>everyone is white and has british accents

Are you retarded?

Just like true Eastern Romans.
Hire some barbarian mercenaries.

my point is that the Latin empire could hardly contribute to the fall of the Byzantines 2 centuries after that, as was alleged by the original post I responded to

dumb ass motherfucker

no he means the empire that begged the pagan Bulgarians to bail them out of the Arab siege in 718

The Latin Empire was a short lived "empire" that held Constantinople, the Byzantines eventually took it back but never really recovered. About 200 years later the Turks destroyed the Byzantine Empire for good.

Maybe read a book, faggot.

silly user you know perfectly well you're not responding to a post about the eastern empire. give these meatsacks a little longer and they'll be yammering about how closely they adhere to "catonian principles" and suchlike shit in their exterior lives

>literally zero of anything about Byzantine Empire
What in the actual fuck

the answer is that nobody cares about the we wuz byzzos

>Series about the Ottoman Empire
>narrated by David Attenborough

Eastern Roman Empire drama when?
The court politics were literally Byzantine. And it could be a spiritual successor to HBO's Rome.

Can you please delete that photo of a T!rk, this is a SFW board.

>since when is the [empire that controls Rome] more Roman than the [empire that doesn't]

turks are shit

>HRE consistently controlling Rome

Hell, most of the time they did own it, the Pope was conspiring to increase his own power at the expense of the emperor.

Also, good job having the majority of your territory be outside of the de jure Roman Empire.

de jure don't mean shit 500 years after Odoacer wiped his dick with the vestal virgins, hombre

if you squeeze some balls in St Peter's you get to call yourself Roman

>Constantinople not officially named Nova Roma
>HRE, didn't even have a senate, never considered itself a republic, HRE emperor's used the title KING of Rome, despite Romans saying they'd never have a king.

Emperor Constantine The Great moved the court from Rome to Constantinople (city of Constantine) in 320 AD.

Constantinople was a better Rome than catholic """"""""""""""""Rome""""""""""""""""" could ever hope to be

That would actually be interesting to watch. I know almost nothing about Turks or Ottomans and i have been on vacation twice there, Side and Alanya.

The HRE only controlled Rome for like 1/4 of its existence.

Wow that statue says all, Sumer was founded by north swedes, ok we don't have curly hair but my neighbor has those eyes.

So russia was founded by south swedes, germany was and britain was founded middle swedes and southern europe including sumer, spain and france was founded by north swedes :D.

good for him, it was promptly moved back to Constantinople after that

they'd never have a king except the ones that they had before the Republic. Sounds to me he was restoring a good old tradition

what about the Byzantines?

>>Constantinople not officially named Nova Roma
>>HRE, didn't even have a senate, never considered itself a republic, HRE emperor's used the title KING of Rome, despite Romans saying they'd never have a king.
Historian here. None of this is true. Constantinople never had 'Nova Roma' as official name. HRE had an emperor solely because they saw themselves as the successors to the Roman Empire, but so did a lot of other empires (Byzantines, Russians, Charlemagne even the Ottoman sultans took up the title of 'caesar') When Charlemagne was crowned Emperor by the pope in 800 (where the HRE basically evolved from), the Byzantian emperor was pissed off because HE saw himelf as the true successor of the Roman emperors. Fact is that the theme of restoring the Roman Empire was an important recurring theme in medieval and early modern Europe, but there were no clear definitions as to who was the legitimate successor. 'having a senate' and 'considering yourself a Republic (which wasn't even true for the Romans after Julius Caesar) were not definitions of this legitimacy.

should I read Gibbon? I'm always reluctant to read histories that are so goddamn old and so much of the info is probably inaccurate

true. One can only hope

No one would watch Turks getting BTFO'd by Croatia and friends.

>same dynasty ruled for 500 years
>noted for major technological, institutional and social stagnation
>conquest stopped around the end of the 17th century
it would just be some retarded soap opera about harem drama

There already is one, and it's terrible.

Yes, read it. Although a lot of the stuff is dated, it's still an extremely influential classic.

This is too retarded

Well, all of that is true.
1. The offical name of the city was Nova Roma Constantinopolitana.

2. As for restoring Rome, the Byzantines saw themselves as a continuation of Rome. But I'm not sure where you were going off an that tangent.

3. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Senate
And yes, Rome was officially and Republic after Julius Caesar, and yes they had a senate well after. There is a very important reason why Caesar or Augustus or anyone else claimed the title of rex, and why also Napoleon didn't claim to be a king.

ps. Mr. "historian," taking some classes as the local community college technically makes you a "historian" but its nothing to brag about. And people who actually work in academia tend not to start sentences that way. Unless say, they are an actual expert in the topic being discussed.

Anyways, I suggest if you do that in public, you might want to do a quick wiki search. And also if you ever attend a conference probably a bad idea to interject that way.

It's not HBO, but still

>is reported to have an international audience of 400 million viewers.
>Aired in 54 countries.

I've seen it and it's made for housewifes. Harem bullshit, and it's also historically inaccurate as fuck.

You would have to pick a certain time in history.

Too broad a subject to encapsulate in a movie or a television show even.

More like 400 million grandmas. It's basically a spanish soap opera but in turkish.

>make a thread about anything related to turks
>get loads of (you)s from angry neckbeards

Why are you faggots so butthurt ?
Also yes a HBO series about the ottoman empire would be nice but they probably would make it shitty and ahistorical.

>ottomans
>bad

Evaluating history like this, especially based on todays contemporary political situation is pretty fucked up.

They were last Islamic power with some class.

Soap operas are Cred Forums approved kino.

those stats are true for every Turk soap opera shit because they release them in all Arab countries

>turk niggers
>class

Its basically about court intrigues so the harem has to play a big role in that.
Also what was historically inaccurate about it?

>t. eternally mad armeniggian

>imdb.com/title/tt1848220/
fucking GOAT tv right here. Better watch than GoT by a landslide.

In my country it started as a meme watched unironically and now it's just as popular as netflix/HBO series.

>he says while posting a porn reaction pic

Sure thing faggot.

I would watch a drama chronicling Mehmed II.

>tfw no movie about the Sultan being rekt by cossacks

You can meme as much as you like.

Ottomans were classy af.

t. pole

They didnt wreck them though only send him a letter where they are calling him bad names.

The greatest Ottoman Sultan was a cuck who married a whore and loved her with all his heart while she was fucking half the court and his heir probably wasn't even his. The retard even wrote poems:
Throne of my lonely niche, my wealth, my love, my moonlight.
My most sincere friend, my confidant, my very existence, my Sultan, my one and only love.
The most beautiful among the beautiful...
My springtime, my merry faced love, my daytime, my sweetheart, laughing leaf...
My plants, my sweet, my rose, the one only who does not distress me in this world...
My Istanbul, my Caraman, the earth of my Anatolia
My Badakhshan, my Baghdad and Khorasan
My woman of the beautiful hair, my love of the slanted brow, my love of eyes full of mischief...
I'll sing your praises always
I, lover of the tormented heart, Muhibbi of the eyes full of tears, I am happy

You mean East Swedes ;DDDD

Sounds like it would make for a good tv show then.

You're aware that not everything that's based on history is usually correct, right?

It could be neat but then we'd have 9000 Cred Forumstards coming here and stirring up shit about the jewish media portraying muslims as good even though they're evil IRL

Ofcourse its not but that would make complaints about historical inaccuracy a bit pointless wouldn't it ?

deadline.com/2014/11/martin-scorsese-benicio-del-toro-tv-show-cortes-hbo-1201287949/
This was years ago and still no news.

Not when it's eye striking like in that show. Also, it doesn't have anything else to provide other than harem drama bullshit mediocrity.