Why can't Japan make good movies?

hanni B, fireworks.

you are welcome you fucking faggot

>you are not worthy, you shitstain

>Japan makes good films

more like Koreeda made some good ones before he went to shits. Name one other decent modern Japanese director that isn't making manga inspired garbage.

Eat shit OP

hana-bi

What about Kiyoshi Kurosawa or Kitano?

I watched this today. Its was pretty great.

How does it feel being proved wrong?

They do. There's just nobody outside of their country to market them to

Can anyone recommend some good 2015-2016 Asian movies, preferably fantasy?

Manga pretty much fucked over our culture. Just watch any 'modern' Japanese films. The way its shot, edited and even acted is just an effort in translating the manga source material to screen.

Yeh sure, it can be wacky fun (Sono, Miike etc) but its a far cry from anything made in the past. For kicks, watch 'Harakiri' and then the recent remake. Or the original 'fires on the plain' and then the 2014 Tsukamoto version. Modern Japanese cinema is an excessive bore.

Having said that, Korean cinema is pretty hit and miss. For every good film they make, theres like 10 garbage films.

>Korean movies
>Good

>Most of the greatest movies made are from Japan in the 30's through the 60's
>OP doesn't watch anything made before 10 years ago so doesn't know that

Ah yeh, Kurosawa is pretty good! Haven't seen too many of his stuff, but I enjoyed Tokyo Sonata.

I feel like Beat Takeshi hasnt made a good film since Dolls, but I'll certainly take him as a good modern director. When he makes a good film, he usually does a great job.

>Manga pretty much fucked over our culture. Just watch any 'modern' Japanese films. The way its shot, edited and even acted is just an effort in translating the manga source material to screen.
>Yeh sure, it can be wacky fun (Sono, Miike etc) but its a far cry from anything made in the past. For kicks, watch 'Harakiri' and then the recent remake. Or the original 'fires on the plain' and then the 2014 Tsukamoto version. Modern Japanese cinema is an excessive bore.
I haven't really seen that many modern japanese movies, but I've probably seen every Akira Kurosawa film. Can you recommend any other directors, not necesarily like him, but those as good as him.

>Having said that, Korean cinema is pretty hit and miss. For every good film they make, theres like 10 garbage films.
Sure, but the good ones I've seen are GOAT.

Takeshi Kitano hasn't made a decent film in over a decade

>our culture

dude it's ok if you're a weeb but for the love of christ do not rp as a japanese national. that's just next level pathetic

The blu ray is out. Watch it ya bums

Shunji Iwai
Naomi Kawase

Kon Ichikawa, Hiroshi Teshigahara, Juzo Itami (comedy), Shohei Imamura, Mikio Naruse are all pretty varied and nice. Sort of spans from wartime films (Ichikawa) to the surreal (Teshigahara).

And then you have Ozu and Nagisa Oshima and such who are much more prolific.

But having said all that, don't dismiss newer stuff. I'm sure theres some really good films I haven't come across that will prove me wrong.

hot garbage

oh yeah, and Shinji Aoyama is another pretty good director I forgot about.

done by committee.

Color me the first weeb to hate Japan then

Koreans can make sorta okay thrillers about edgy things, but let's not kid ourselves about 'good'

Japan do TV show

I liked 'Secret Sunshine', which was pretty far from the edgy revenge thriller archetype. Lee Chang-Dong's movies are generally pretty refreshing.

Check out Pulse and Cure user, both are good and from Kiyoshi Kurosawa

Koreans are soulless as fuck though. Even the Chinese make better film than them and the Chinese generally hate culture.

Agreed. Love Exposure is GOAT. Watch that shit.

I also enjoyed most Godzilla films I've seen, Audition and Gozu.

Most live action Jap movies/tv are pretty shit because there is no subtlety. Everything is super over the top, and not in a "zany action" sort of way. In a "we are going to point out this character's feeling with a fucking neon sign," and failed attempts at """"comedy"""" (oh haha some guy walked in on a girl changing and now she's freaking out SO FUCKING FUNNY JAPAN.)

Of course, there are exceptions.

Why was this removed by janny? WTF
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Korea may make good movies but Japan makes good films.
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Bravo Janny, bravo!

user, Japanese cinema hasn't made anything with substance since the 80s/90s. Their film industry's been in the shitter for almost 30 years. All they make is cheap quick cashgrabs one after the other. Literally anything form them that's really worth seeing came out between the 50s and the 70s. The rest is mostly shit.

What? Are you kidding? I watched it yesterday and it was pretty shit. I could not understand what the characters were thinking that drove them to make those stupid ass decisions.

Kawase is shit tier

>What is Godzilla, Mothra and King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack

Well there is another image for my HamadaXMatsumoto folder

You're talking only about manga adaptations right there though.

it's not 15/16 but check out Painted Skin + sequel.

Shit acting
Ugly cgi

>Not liking Tokyo Story

Get your weak shit out of my face you motherfucker

Check out pic related for some 90s goodness

Explain yourself.

>just turn your brain off bro Xd

>korea can
lol kpop fags pls, korea just ape the west and china and make pretentious action films devoid of any originality, at least japan has a unique style you don't see in other countries.

I've legitimately never seen a good Korean film. Even the one's Cred Forums often recommends like The Vengeance Trilogy and Mother were mediocre compared to the numerous renowned Japanese films, both classic and contemporary.

this

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youtube.com/watch?v=LEH7nDkiPEk

Actually one of my top 10 movies

how were those mediocre? just curious.gotta check out some jap movies though.

>oldboy

Uh huh

They were competently made and entertaining, and that's about as much as I can say about them. They didn't make me stop and reflect. I never felt like there was anything beneath the surface that invited further consideration. They were just entertainment.

oh i see. what are some movies that you like maybe i can check those out. I pretty much enjoy both movies that entertain and movies that make you reflect.

>tfw to intelligent to fall for the thinly veiled Japanese film recommendation thread

Kurosawa, Ozu, Mizoguchi are all great. For more recent ones, Koreeda and Kitano have made some great films.

letterboxd.com/arsaib/list/kinema-junpo-magazines-top-japanese-films/
That's from an old Japanese film magazine and has many great movies.

Yeah I hate it when Cred Forums stops posting about SJW bait, politics, or capeshit

Hey thanks for the list! I already see some that look interesting.

J-just trying to have some fun... I am enjoying the thread and bookmarking movies by the way so I guess, in the end, the joke was on me

they do

I don't like the dramas but I do love the movies and sometimes enjoy the music you got me.

>OP got BTFO:thread

I have watched those old movies but don't like to constantly live in the past, I can't even remember the last truly good live action Jap movie I saw.

Then: Japan>China>Korea
Now: China>Korea>Japan

This decade looks pretty grim for Japanese cinema.

I know this is probably b8 can anyone recommend any good Chinese movies to watch from the last 5 years?

I never really watched any China movies and Hong Kong movies went to shit a while ago.

>Being a disgusting weaboo

Oasis,Poetry,this.....everything this director makes is pure Kino.

>it's an 'allegory for atomic weapons' movie

>Now: China>Korea>Japan

This a meme?
There has been no good Chinese movies in years.

That's completely wrong, though. And by China I mean China, Taiwan and Hong Kong. Tsai Ming-liang is better than any modern Japanese director.

>Oasis

Korea makes the best depression Kino.

Name some good China movies from the last 10 years.
I'll try to ignore the fact you're cheating by combining 3 countries.

WTF I THOUGHT THIS WAS GONNA BE A COMEDY BUT THEN IT TURNED INTO A HITCHCOCK MOVIE AND THEN PURE SAD

for me it was Kotoko, a bit edgy, but interesting

Tsai Ming-liang is a master of contemporary cinema

Jia Zhangke, Hou Hsia Hsien, Tsai Ming-liang, Johnnie To and other directors produce high quality films.

Doesn't this board only talk about superhero movies made for little babies?

I don't think you're allowed to make such a heavy complaint.

Can we all agree Frozen Flower is the most depressing Korean movie?

I said films fuck face.

lolwut

pic related + Black Coal, Thin Ice for some good modern mainland films. check out Jia Zhangke's other films afterwards

That movie is mediocre makes me question your taste in films.

They all depress me because I know I will never have a perfect C O R E A N gf ;_;

Name some good films then, patriciananon

Just find them yourself. Jia Zhangke's newest film (Mountains May Depart) was pretty good, but A Touch of Sin was even better. Tsai Ming-liang makes great unique films - Journey to the West and Stray Dogs are his newest features. HHH and his Assassin was the critical darling of 2015. And there are other less known directors like Ann Hui or Lou Ye.

Asian?

Oasis.
Peppermint Candy.
Save the Green Planet.
Pieta.
The Yellow Sea
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring
Castaway on the Moon.
Lady Vengance.

>posting Literally pleb tier list
Kill yourself

Because you're a braindead pleb and you'd rather watch generic crime revenge thrillers instead of whatever Koreeda and Kawase are doing.

>implying this film wasn't comfy as fuck

Koreeda's last film was literally a moeshit and Kawase isn't that great.

>Be me and friend
>My friend and I do our own separate martial arts
>Meets a Korean guy through the class.
>Recommends "Save the Green Planet," playing up how great of a comedy it is.
>Friend and I watch it.
>Joke the entire time about how great of a "comedy" it is.
>Literal Holocaust footage comes up, we fucking lose it because it couldn't be less of a fucking comedy at this point.
>Through the years, whenever we meet someone from Korea about this movie, they always talk about how great of a comedy it is
>mfw I'm convinced Korea is full of sociopaths

Nah you dirty chink

Examples. Japan never stopped making good movies, they're mostly just low-key dramas without the mass appeal to reach capeshitters from Cred Forums who unironically think Sion Sono is a genuis.

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>This decade looks pretty grim for Japanese cinema.

This decade? Jap movies have been mostly shit since the 90s.

Great opinion Zhang.

Movies from every country are mostly shit.
Japanese movies in the 50's were still mostly shit too, the real shit ones don't go overseas.

Otaku culture and vidya pretty much killed Japan's film business.

Japan makes great movies you fucking autist

I agree, but that's 16 years old and it's shit.

D i G i T s

>it's shit

youtube.com/watch?v=YSCKsEtCmSc

Otaku and vidya don't explain the ridiculous amount of tacky melodrama movies starring very beautiful people that they shit out by the tons yet have absolutely zero artistic value.

Japanese mainstream culture has a big problem in that it produces the most unsubtle and vacuous artistic products in the world. There's absolutely no depth to it, because the Japanese don't understand depth, they can only see things at face value. That's why they don't understand cynicism or satire or analogies.

But I'm generalizing anyway, of course there's talent, just very little of it.

>Korea has been ripping off Hong Kong movies for 17 years straight
Will this fad ever die?

Nigga you high?

>I haven't seen Oldboy, The Man from Nowhere. Sympathy for Mr. Vengance or I Saw the Devil

They're so basic and well known that I'm not 100% sure your post isn't a joke.

>Why can't Japan make good movies?
>Who is Takeshi Miike

Some posters on neo-Cred Forums are actually too young to remember when the internet was jerking off over Oldboy.

He literally has 4 good movies out of 91. 13 Assassins isn't one of them.

>don't understand cynicism

>who is oshima
>who is masumura
>who is hisayasu satō

This nigga knows what's up

Watch Oasis, thank me later you fucking degenerate.

>Kotoko

Was going to recommend that, my niggro.

Bane?

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The only legit auteur in Korea is Hong Sang Soo. On the other hand, Japan is the land of kino filmmakers (Nakashima, Kitano, Koreeda, Iwai, Nakamura, Sono, Miike, Kawase, Yamashita, Kiyoshi Kurosawa, just to name a few). OP knows jack shit about Asian cinema.

is this like a korean remake of falling down or what

tetsuya nakashima is goat

>why can't Japan make good movies?
They did until the 90s, it went to shit after their new wave died out.
>Korean can.
Well that's just plain untrue.

Which other films of his are good? I liked Confessions and The World of Kanako but they're a little too self-indulgent in the edginess department at times

memories of matsuko

i haven't seen kamikaze girls yet

>the real shit ones don't go overseas.

And yet the stuff that does is still shit.

That movie is from the 50s. Modern Jap cinema is shit.

Noroi: The Curse

Yeah this is a straight up masterpiece that people never discuss

You are now realising that there are non-memingly people posting on this board alongside you were literal babies when Oldboy came out.

Could you say more about those kino filmmakers please senpai? I have heard of only KKuro, TMiike, HKoreeda, and Kawase from earlier in this thread.

Oh fuck, Nakashima did Kamikaze Girls? I hate that shit.

its the one i havent seen

his stuff seems to have gotten from really peppy to really edgy

with that said i really loved memories of matsuko up to world of kanako

idk if i can recommend matsuko unless you like musical sequences though

The cartoon eyes are really off-putting.

Korea hasn't had a good movie since Memories of Murder. The only thing they were decent at is edgy revenge flicks, but they've gone to shit in that genre as well now.

pic related was a strong 6 light 7

I like musicals, so I may check that out senpai.

>auteur

KYS

It's what happens when a country is scared of the outside world and gets into a creative feedback loop.
Japanese films for Japanese people made by Japanese people who only ever watch Japanese films.
It's like what happens to animals when their gene pool is too small.

So, like American movies then?

1) Americans consume lots of foreign media.
2) America isn't culturally homogeneous like Japan is.

1. Nah.
2. Japan isn't culturally homogenous, you're just salty because they don't let foreign scum in to run rampant.

Are you kidding? Japan is homogeneous as fuck. One race, one ethnic group speaking one language. It has no significant immigrant populations, they can't read or speak English so the only shit they consume is in Japanese.

They listen to huge quantities of Western pop, they watch Western movies too, they just don't allow themselves to be converted into vessels for foreign culture.

I can tell you've never been to Japan.

>It's what happens when a country is scared of the outside world and gets into a creative feedback loop.
>Japanese films for Japanese people made by Japanese people who only ever watch Japanese films.
>It's like what happens to animals when their gene pool is too small.

When it comes to Japanese pop-culture they take in tons of foreign influences regardless of medium. Music, movies, tv-shows or whatever. Generally if something becomes a thing in west it used to take couple years for the thing reach japan and then the thing bounces back to rest of the world in strange mutated way.

>1) Americans consume lots of foreign media.

Less than most other countries.

This is so fucking good. Haven't seen a comedy as good as Hentai Kamen in forever

>Less than most other countries.
But look at how many Hollywood directors aren't from America.
All Japanese directors are Japanese.

oh and you have? because if you have follow your own advice and fuck off to Cred Forums or /jp/ former weeb faggot

I have. And Japs often took pictures of me because of how few foreigners they'd seen.

Oh, you're one of those otaku who goes to Japan and then resents the Japanese for how out-of-place he feels, how embarrassing.

>All Japanese directors are Japanese.

You are clearly not familiar with any countries other than America and Japan if you think this is in any way exceptional. The American industry is the oddity.

>I Saw the Devil

Should I watch the extended cut?

>All Japanese directors are Japanese.

You are delusional. Japanese to do joint productions with foreigners and yeah, occasionally even let foreigners to direct 100% Japanese funded movies. As usual they require at least semi-decent fluency in Japanese.

>The American industry is the oddity.

No, it isn't. They just have more money in their business so foreign talent go where funding is.

Because japs are terrible at acting.

>No, it isn't. [Describes why it is.]

You stupid peasant.

yeah, that looks like shit
give me a korean thriller any day

He is american, give the guy a break.

this film is great

plebs needa go

This is shit. This kind of thing is what's worst about Japanese cinema this century.

>You stupid peasant.

Yet, for some odd reason almost all movies they do in Hollywood is in English, set America, display mostly American culture, follow American cinema traditions and almost never do anything that Americans wouldn't understand in their movies, unless it is very short cultural reference that producers don't even notice. For fucks sake quite a lot of them even change their name so Americans won't even notice that film was directed by foreigner and producers might pronounce their names correctly.

>He is american, give the guy a break.

Nope.

>no mention of Beat Takeshi

fucking plebs

the ending was too much to bear

>no mention of Beat Takeshi
>fucking plebs

Are you blind? Are you masseur?

>hana-bi

>Kitano

>I feel like Beat Takeshi hasnt made a good film since Dolls

Don't watch it at all. It's just gore porn

but i was planning to fap

Came across a vhs of this at my blockbuster back in the day. Great film

I too enjoyed hentai kamen. Actually a lot funnier than I thought it'd be, though it started to lose steam at the final fight.

The performances by the kids in this were incredibly good.

>The rest is mostly shit.

Or anime.

You have to understand that most Asians haven't fallen for the idea that the Jewish holocaust specifically is the worst thing to have happened in human history and is totally verboten to consider as anything but the one topic most deserving of greatest solemnity.

>not watching Beat Takeshi kino

>Kurosawa, Ozu, Mizoguchi
the list goes on

Sorry for recommending the most well known classic Japanese directors to someone who hasn't watched Japanese film.

YES BITCH!!

Because they are ugly as fuck. So they prefer to stick to their miserable cartoons where they can be as beautiful as they never will be in real life.

Nice basic fucking taste, m8

>Korea hasn't had a good movie since Memories of Murder
That's just as moronic as people who say there haven't been good Japanese movies since the 90's.

ITT: WEEBS

Post war golden age != current Japan.

There was a brief resurgence in Japanese cinema during the 90s when the economy went to shit but that renaissance is long over.

For what it's worth I agree gookshit is overrated as fuck but I think mediocre is better than what current Japan puts out anyway.

on a weeb site.

Felt this was too whitewashed and happy to be quite honest.

death by hanging is pretty good

Strange Circus
Noriko's Dinner Table
Himizu
Why Don't You Play in Hell?
were all better.

samurai hustle (2014)
samurai hustle returns(2016)
are pretty recent comedies

takashi miike movies are pretty hit or miss these days.

No, they're just miss these days.

Dare Mo Shiranai and Rashomon too

/thread

Da Feelz

Survival Style 5+ was pretty good imo

I was going to watch a Japanese movie about a guy who ran out of luck and decided to be a makeup artist for corpses or an embalmer.

Forgot the title though. Anyone know this movie?

>Anything by Kurosawa
>Battle Royale
>Versus
>At least half of the Godzilla series, including Shin Gojira
All Korea has is Oldboy.

Japan and Hong Kong and Taiwan have been making great movies since forever. What is Korea? Irrelevant until K-pop went mainstream and retards started overrating everything of korean origin.

departures

>Battle Royale
One of my all time favorite movies.

Korea has The Man From Nowhere though

>Japanese films

>it's set in samurai times
>it's about self-loathing
>it's an allegory about atomic bombs

>Less than most other countries.
Probably because we don't have to. Hollywood is a bigger industry than your backwater's entire GDP, dude.

Sympathy for Lady Vengeance is better

The Kamen Riders are gonna fight Pac-Man, so shut the fuck up OP

13 Assassins was so bad

>uninspired plot
>incredibly generic and boring characters
>mediocre acting
>awful fight choreography (aka the only thing Asian films are supposed to do well)
>bad CGI
>references to Japanese folklore that literally no foreign audience would understand
>literally the most predictable plot possible, not a single surprising moment in the movie

I'll never understand why its so overrated.

>shilling Kamen Rider in this thread
>shilling Ex-Aid instead of Amazons
what the fuck are you doing

Amazons doesn't have a movie yet

Checkmate, user

Himizu is garbage.

>Korean films

>It's about en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_(cultural)
>It's about inept justice systems
>It's about rapists and murderers

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You really don't know shit . You just think you do.

You're another one of those koreaboos that tries to shove korean shit down everybody's throat and tell
us how shit anything Japanese is.

Torrented it after reading this post
This movie has changed me already
>that scene where she was dry humping her dad's boner
WEW FUCKING LAD

>mfw the mother ditch's the kids less then halfway

It must suck to be Korean knowing they have the smallest dicks in the world

thanks man

This was a successful thinly veiled Jap recommendation thread, picked up a few things.

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best in the "trilogy" desu

This thread is so embarrassing to read through. Please stop bumping it. So many edgy underagedfags in here.