I have a genuine interesting question about the Star Wars films

In the films, there's much talk of "the one" who will "bring balance to the force." But as we see in the sequels, it wasn't Anakin, and as we see in the original trilogy and with the showing of TFA, it wasn't Luke either because Kylo Ren quickly fucked things up. Yoda, Mace Windu, and Qui Gon Jinn couldn't have meant a temporary balance, as it always sounded like a time of peace that would last a very long time. Could Rey be "the one that will bring balance to the force"? Who is actually "the one"? Discuss.

It's Rey, she's very obviously the one as she's good at everything and isn't a whiny bitch like Luke/Ani

it's obviously Jar-Jar binks you dimwit

as if theyre going to respect the prequels enough to carry on from them. theyve wiped the slate clean for the new heaps of agenda driven shit

To Lucas Anakin was still 'the one'. He eventually killed Palpatine and Vader, to an extent.

>it wasn't Anakin

But he balanced Sheev over his head.

It was Luke Skywalker, but obviously the saga was supposed to end there

There's a chosen one every 20 years, lad. It's just lazy writing on Georgie's part.

Anakin did brought balance to the force by killing Palpatine and by doing so removing himself as a Sith aswell.

In Georges world the Sith/evil is what destabilizes the force, getting rid of them = balance.

But he did balance out the force because the jedi vastly outnumbered the sith and now its pretty equal
Now it balances out :^)

this fucking excuse never fails to piss me off
it's straight retarded

Anakin was the chosen one, bringing balance to the Force doesn't mean that "there's an equal number of jedi and sith" or some bullshit like that. Lucas has gone on record saying that the dark side is imbalance in the force, bending it to your will and using it for your own gain as opposed to letting it flow through you or some shit. By turning back to the light and killing Sheev, he eradicated the dark side of the force, bringing balance. Now, it's stupid to think that that's going to last forever even though if the sequels were never made it hypothetically could have, so in about thirty years there's people that practice the dark side again.
Also of note is the fact that the whole point of the prequels is that the Jedi, right before the end, were arrogant and dogmatic, eating up prophecy and adhering to their code, ultimately becoming more and more detached from the force. So whatever shit legends they cooked up may not even have any validity to them. kinda like the EU By bringing about the end of that system which essentially forgot the values of the Force, as well as conceiving the child that would reshape the Jedi, redeem his father, and help him destroy the Sith, Anakin is pretty much the most important character of the Star Wars saga, whether that was always George's vision or not.

Anakin was the chosen one. Episodes I-VI are essentially his life story. He brought balance when he killed Palpatine and returned to the light. Now though, it's highly likely that Disney will fuck over the lore by having the chosen one be someone who is essentially reincarnated whenever the force is in turmoil. Rey is going to be another chosen one; her mother was a jedi in Luke's academy and had a virgin pregnancy like Shmi. Luke, afraid of the power of the chosen one should they fall to the dark side, hid Rey on Jakku rather than trained her.

That's just a meme. In the Star Wars universe balance occurs when there are only light side users. It's like saying your body is in balance when there are equal amounts of cancerous and healthy cells.

>Episodes I-VI are essentially his life story
in fairness, that was revisionism on Lucas' part. Before the prequels, Star Wars was the story of Luke Skywalker. It wasn't till like 20 years after the fact that George then went and decided he wanted them to be about his dad instead

>balance means only one side exists
But if you put weight on only one side of a scale it won't balance out

> She's a realist
> Accepts any decent job offer
> Conform to alien society
> Doesn't spew 'muh force 'shit
> She just does it
> Is skilled in spacetech

Anakin = spoiled orphan
Luke = Edgelord

>society is only in balance when there are equal amounts of rapists and non-rapists

It's YOU, the audience :^)

They're not weights user, they're philosophies. The light side is being attuned to force, acting in harmony with it and using it for knowledge and defense. The dark side is using the force for your own self-interest. Not giving a fuck about the will of the force or harmony and all that, instead trying to dominate it and use it to gain power or cause harm. If everybody was using the force properly and not being assholes and wanting more power, there would be no dark side and there would be balance

It was Sheev. Jedi severely outnumbered Sith. Sheev evened it out.

Anakin did bring balance to the force, after his actions you had 2 Jedi and 2 Sith. Straight up fucking balance.

Anakins cock tipped the scale because of his hot Sith load we now had Luke and Leia, neutral but force sensitive whiny bitches. Leia didn't give a fuck but Luke was swindled by Obi Wan to lean to the light side; making it 2 vs. 2 and a neutral.

Then Obi Wan dies, and it's 2 v 1. Except he doesn't die because he a force ghost now...chillin'. Fast forward and Luke apparently tries to train a bunch of potential Jedi out of boredom....well he fucks that up and managed to tip the scales in favor of the Sith now. Also there's an old creepy bald hologram with face problems that is behind it all.

Anakin was The One.

And yes that means the whole prophecy subplot was retarded even at conception.

You gotta understand OP, the sooner you stop trying to make sense of the prequels the easier your life will be. They had to make a 6-season long cartoon just to fill in maybe, like, a third of the plot holes.

>vader eradicates all darkside force users by killing sheev

so when did snoke appear?

The prophecy was bullshit or misinterpreted. They all brought 'balance' to the force by causing changes in the ebb and flow of light and dark. The battle never ends.

nobody knows
I guess in a few years once all that backstory is covered then we'll know for sure about all this chosen one shit

Why the fuck would you want to bring balance to the force instead of eliminating the dark side entirely?

Anakin was. Fuck Rey, a fucking Mary Sue.

Anakin brought balance to the force by eventually destroying the sith by killing Palpatine and dying himself.

The jedi obviously have a very fucked up view of balance though, and TFA retconned that shit anyway.

>Who is actually "the one"?
Anakin. This is as clear as the sun.

Ancillary material added on top of everything won't change this.

eliminating the dark side entirely is bringing balance to the force. The dark side is literally imbalance, bending the natural harmony of the force to your own will to gain power and shit

>bring balance to the force
>all the sith are dead by the end of return of the jedi
>balance

>being this fucking stupid

Do the jedi ever do anything "good" that isn't just them fighting off the sith forces?

It seems like we need to just exterminate all people with a certain mido-chlorian level and be done with all this force nonsense.

It's Rey. She will become Queen of the Galaxies and defeat all evil

>It seems like we need to just exterminate all people with a certain mido-chlorian level and be done with all this force nonsense.
...and then new ones are born and it starts all over again

Lucas is a fucking retarded hack, never rely on a single word he says, he can't even keep consistency in the frame of a single sentence.

Way more people understand this than i expected.
I came here to post these but you guys beat me to it. Feels good senpai

>In the films, there's much talk of "the one" who will "bring balance to the force." But as we see in the sequels, it wasn't Anakin

Yes it was.

Episode III: 10,000 Jedi vs 2 Sith
Episode IV: 2 Jedi vs 2 Sith

Then Luke throws everything out of balance by starting a new Jedi Order, so his nephew tries to set things right again by worshiping Darth Vader and turning to the dark side thanks to the manipulations of a mysterious alien who claims to be a Sith.

>tfw this was the subject of a (crappy, tbf) 7-book series about 10 years before Episode VII came out
>tfw Abrams is a lazy hack

The story ends in RotJ, every single SW movie up to TFA was written with that in mind. Any link the disney movies makes to any SW content made before they aquired the rights will be a complete afterthought. AKA it's fanfiction
The worst thing about it is that whatever kind of trash story Disney comes up with it will stick itself forever in the rest of human history as the official continuation of the main story like some kind of bloodsucking parasite you can't get rid off.

...

>Rey is Bastila+Revan
>Kylo Ren is Jacen/Caedus
>Snoke is Vergere+Thrawn
>the whole plot is just Episode IV 2.0

fuck's sake Disney

Don't make me say it.

>closes her eyes for 10 seconds in the middle of a fight

My thoughts Exactly

Why didn't he just kinda twist his saber a bit?

>Finally kill the sith lord, accept your part in it all and save your son, letting yourself die. The circle finally being complete.

if only Luke murdered suicided Leia...

Lucas literally had no idea, go read "How Star Wars Conquered the Universe" There was never a six-film plan, Anakin was never meant to be space jesus with a virginal birth and a prophecy about "bringing balance". Lucas threw that in there to add more weight to the character of Darth Vader because people fell in love with him in the OT after he was introduced as nothing more than just 'the muscle' in the first Star Wars.

>turn him into the most recognizable character on the planet*


That guy is a toy selling fool.

guess we'll see how it plays out with the twins.

So what? Just because they're afterthoughts don't mean they don't work. The prophecy is resolved and all the pieces fall into place.

Because he wasn't trying to kill her
He was offering her a place as his student two seconds before this webm

Jedi aren't intrinsically good, they're just not bad. They have the force but they don't use it to fuck shit up and take over the galaxy. Think of them as monks. And at the same time, they're guardians of peace and justice or whatever, so they're stopping space crimes and shit and resolving conflicts for the Republic, always trying the peaceful solution first

This is still wrong. Read the thread before you post

If we're being pedantic, the prequels are fanfic too. The Original Trilogy was initially all that there was to be said about star wars. The story was supposed to begin with ANH, until George decided he wasn't finished

>prequels made by original creator
>fanfiction

user that isn't what that word means.

That's fucking wrong though. Lucas began writing the story outline of the prequel trilogy while writing ESB in 1978. The opening titles of ESB always said "Episode V" since the original theatrical release.

No one will "bring balance to the force" as long as an imbalance means there can be more movies.

Well what's the word for a shitty afterthought that was never planned at the beginning, and completely changes the meaning of the original works?

Retcon?

Lucas said that he added episode titles to the movie to add an adventure-serial vibe to it, like the viewer's jumping right into the middle of an ongoing battle between good and evil. It was never intended to be an indicator for prequels. If you read the book in it would show that there was never a plan for 9 movies or whatever the fuck he spouted in the 80s. On the set of ROTJ, he said that Luke's costume was how Jedi would have looked in their prime, and then 15 years later that's out the window. Lucas said tons of shit after the movies were initially done to stay relevant, none of it was true. You can see him start to write TPM in the documentary about it. It was not in development since 1978

A brilliant marketing idea that made a single character stratospheric.

It's so retarded that they're setting up Kylo Ren to eventually be a good guy. The dude is responsible for killing hundreds maybe thousands of innocent people

Anakin got to be a force ghost and go to force heaven or whatever after all the shit he did

>When did Jew Jews fanfic OC turn up?

Dunno man

THESE MOVIES WERE JUST AD'S FOR TOYS!!!!!!!!!!!! lucas is a brilliant business man but a shit filmmaker*. he did have a good understanding of sound,though. *getting a studio to fund the initial ad epi. IV

Lucas literally says in the behind the scenes that it's still Anakin because he kills the emperor in the end. Sorry to burst the bubble

1. The prequels literally a shit
2. Bringing balance doesn't mean forever.
3. Hack Fraud Lucas has it "bring balance" then later changes it to "destroy the Sith." Perhaps implying that the two are somehow the same, or that the Jedi misinterpreted the prophecy. Either way he does destroy the Sith.
4. You're putting way more thought into this than Lucas ever did.

Did GL even have fuck all to do with ESB, apart from bankrolling it?

anakin was the one.
before anakin, there was no balance. the light side ruled supreme while the dark side barely existed at all. some jedi in episode 1 even says "but the sith have been extinct for a thousand years!"

so anakin rectifies this imbalance by eradicating most of the light side and getting the dark side into a position of power, all while leaving a small but significant light side presence alive (yoda, obi-wan)
and when in the end the dark side threatened to completely take over and eradicate the light side (sheev nearly killing luke) anakin again steps in to restore balance, destroying sheev and saving luke.

after episode 6, neither the light side nor the dark side have a big advantage. it's a clean slate, no big galactic power structure like the republic or the empire exists to impose one side over the other. there finally is balance.

Youre an idiot or this is bait

bunch of jedi two siths after anakins little tantrum two jedi and two siths...seems pretty ballanced to me

Is it just me or are the Jedi actually the bad guys? not letting people from being romantically involved is pretty tyrannical.

no dude, you're still wrong. Every post that's more than ten words refutes that point

>"Well, user, I'm going to have to prescribe you a well balanced diet. You should eat 50% vegetables and 50% candy."

this is what butthurt haters actually believe