loli
Loli
Jace Harris
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Ryder Martinez
Oliver Brooks
Bentley Evans
Adam Williams
Sebastian Jackson
Elijah James
Connor Mitchell
Jordan Evans
tights
Nicholas Allen
Post Wickr
Robert Cook
Charles Diaz
Isaiah Jones
Hunter Cooper
David Torres
Parker Richardson
Jordan Ortiz
Wrong, they were common in America at it's cultural peak.
James Torres
yes
paraheart
Ayden Miller
tfw no baby gf
Colton Hernandez
Jordan Harris
the good
Kevin Jenkins
Henry Reyes
Thomas Lee
Carson Parker
Jaxson Gray
the evil
Joshua Morales
>citation needed
and no, not that one coal miner example.
William Parker
Joseph Gomez
Grayson Turner
Xavier Scott
Tfw you can't cuddle with young Moana
Jayden Gomez
the deep
Grayson Flores
en.wikipedia.org
It's right on wikipedia m8.
Cooper Scott
Carson Long
Why are hawaiians so cute
Kayden Watson
Ayden Davis
little brown girls are the best?
Hudson Gomez
Ikr
Benjamin Price
The practice has lasted longer than America. From a historical perspective America itself is a speculative experiment compared with how well established the practice is.
Michael Ortiz
Polynesians*, they can be really beautiful or plain ugly, no middle grounds on that people.
Aiden Sanders
dongle999
Andrew Cox
They are
Tito is cute and a good dude. If you're into chubby dudes I bet he's be top tier.
I guess that's true too.
Jordan Evans
Oliver Sullivan
Jeremiah Phillips
Please help. I don't understand the sex with loli thing. I mean I get the cute and flirty pics. those are just like things you might see your daughter or niece do and it makes you laugh or even stir up weird primal desires.
but I don't understand when it proceeds into intercourse. or what's up with the more realistic loli's? some are near photo-real. these seem awfully close to CP, or at a minimum cp replacement, to me. it's just hits too close to that, "this is very wrong" part of my being.
I'm not criticizing. do what they wilt. but i would appreciate someone's honest feedback on why they enjoy the overtly sexualized childlike art. help me understand what attracts you to it.
thank you in advance.
Bentley Hughes
All of America's infrastructure is falling apart because retard SJWs would rather fund welfare for boomers and low IQ ethnics than actually maintain society.
Jace Taylor
Imagine a little girl enthusiastically leading you to a special private place where you two can have sex
Jonathan Baker
Moar Roll give it all to me
Charles Stewart
Girls are cute
Carson Lee
Friendly reminder that she is just 6 yo.
Thomas Jenkins
Nice try FBI
Elijah Brown
>understand what attracts you to it
The fact that it looks like young girls. Duh.
Matthew Wilson
Liam Parker
must be awesome
Anthony Roberts
Sure, it was in the past. Thinking it unusual can only be justified from wearing the blinders of the prejudices of modernity. Whether I will live to see it is another matter, but it is not unusual for these things to take generations.
Jeremiah Thomas
Tanned girls are cute
Caleb Morris
Maybe the FBI just wants to see cute girls
Sebastian Reyes
Joseph Thompson
Ethan Reyes
William Parker
Daniel Green
Ryan Ross
Jason Ortiz
Tanlines are amazing.
Ian Walker
Jaxon Ortiz
Because I’m a pedophile and I think little girls are sexy
Andrew Rodriguez
Lucas Taylor
Blake Lewis
Dominic Ramirez
Colton Edwards
Carson Reyes
Extremely based
Parker Hernandez
Alexander Sanchez
John Lewis
Bentley Brooks
that's why she is my favorite
Carson Anderson
Grayson Gomez
Oliver Gray
Zachary Butler
so it is a pedophilic attraction? does this type of art stifle the desire for pictures of real children naked and in overt sexual situations?
and I'm not calling you a pedophile. it's just the on lb y word I can think of that describes the attraction to images of young children or child like.
Ayden King
>your daughter or niece do
you see them as daughters, i see them as wives
> what's up with the more realistic loli's?
i personally dislike realistic / 3D artstyles, but anyone can make whatever they want and post them here
different people have different tastes, and i have my own
> why they enjoy the overtly sexualized childlike art. help me understand what attracts you to it.
lolis to me are no different from most flat-chested anime girls
i am not attracted to their age or size, but because they're flat-chested and moe, not just simply 'cute'.
the appeal to me is not the fact that they're realistic, but the fact that they're unrealistic
it's the same appeal as to why people would rather play video games over real life
James Smith
Jonathan Russell
Anthony Taylor
>so it is a pedophilic attraction
Yes Einstein.
Jacob Cook
Blake King
>does this type of art stifle the desire for pictures of real children naked and in overt sexual situations?
No.
>I'm not calling you a pedophile
Why not? It’s accurate. Don’t be a pussy, and don’t worry, we’ve known we’re pedophiles for a long time
Levi Bailey
Carter Perez
>so it is a pedophilic attraction?
that's the same as asking "is watching a guy jerk off to the girl in straight porn gay?"
the answer depends on the people themselves
Lucas Hernandez
Dylan Jackson
tfw no depraved millionaire aristocrat gf
Leo Perry
But also the answer is yes
Samuel Reyes
and the answer is also no
have you ever heard of self-inserting or cuckoldry?
that's why i said it depends on the person and how they perceive it as
Justin Bailey
poke
Oliver Hughes
But most cuckholds are repressed gays themselves.
Connor Robinson
Liam Gray
Sebastian Cox
Colton Baker
> repressed gays
that statement could apply to everyone if you ask some progressive activist
Logan Jackson
Noah Walker
i dont find real little attractive sexually but loli is hot as shit
Adrian Brown
Henry Thomas
fiction is fiction huh
Kayden Parker
wow! ok. thank you for your honesty.
I personally struggle with my feelings when I see the cute child like images. and I appreciate the cuteness and even how one could find some sexually attractive. but there is some kind of mental instinct that tells me it's not ok. so I can keep it as more of a fantasy than desiring the reality. first example i don't mind playing daddy or older stranger man role play with an adult. but never with a child.
is that filter just missing with you? is it sociopathic where you know it's not the right thing out in the world but internally it seems perfectly ok?ornos it more psychopathic where you just don't care what others think. you just use art as a way of not being persecuted. however in reality you have no qualms about enjoying the overtli y sexualized images of children?
again, I'm not judging you or others like you. injust have an overly curious and analytical mind. I have this innate drive to try and not only know why but understand it as well.
David Taylor
me too
my preferences for irl are pretty much flat chested (realistic size) and around my age
but my preferences for anime is mostly loli
i really don't care as long as the anime girl is flat-chested and don't look lanky
if you add big breasts to lolis, it completely ruins it for me
Xavier Bell
I have no intention of behaving sexually with a child, and have no desire to incur the wrath of the law, but I don’t believe sex between adults and children is inherently immoral
Owen Barnes
Personally I don't think it's actually harmful at all, and would take a 12-13 year old wife if I could. That said I'm not a psychopath at all and won't touch a loli irl because I don't want to go to jail and think out of marriage casual sex with them can be quite bad. So I'll stick to loli pics.
Angel Green
>have you ever heard of self-inserting or cuckoldry?
aka closeted homosexuals.
Joshua Reed
it's not even the fact that it is fiction but more so on the way the art is portrayed unrealistic with the really nice aesthetic
i really don't like almost all types of western-style lolis, especially 3D
the only appealing 3D style for me is something like
>pic
self inserting is not gay
Wyatt Nelson
>self inserting is not gay
It's both gay and homo
Jayden Nelson
13 is too old
Gavin Carter
>gay and homo
no u
John Taylor
It is gay but if you don't want to identify as such feel free.
Matthew Murphy
4 u
Matthew Ward
>you're gay for playing eroge/galge clearly meant for guys
OK retard
Adrian Lee
I'd agree with you as long as we agree that there needs to be informed consent from the girl and her guardian approves the relationship.
Justin Hill
>it's meant for guys so it can't be gay
Great logic
Connor Collins
Any of you degenerates use kik?
Pervyguy1269
Jaxson Evans
>>>you see them as daughters, i see them as wives
ah!! i can see this. i can see the thought process when you explained that you don't see them as children necessarily but just as nonrealistic but attractively cute flat chested individuals. the fact that they are unrealistic allows you to disassociate age from body image. no longer is the short statured, cute, cherub like image a young child, it's just a cute girl. period.
do I have it right?
and thank you again for giving your honest point of view. it helps me stop from becoming moralistic in my understanding. instead, I now have an objective reason. much appreciated.
Angel James
Who else really likes mintposter?
Luke Young
Mintposter seems pretty based to me.
Nicholas Campbell
>no longer is the short statured, cute, cherub like image a young child, it's just a cute girl. period.
>
>do I have it right?
yes, that's roughly correct
many anime artstyles do chibify adults so a lot of adults will tend to look like lolis even though they are portrayed or subconsciously perceived as adults
they could even have a smaller version of lolis which are portrayed as children for the most part
so in my head it's an adult i can connect to, but in another person's mind, it's simply just a child
Ethan Brown
I like her butt
Jayden Scott
>2-4-1 deal
the dream
Andrew Perry
More like 4 for 1
Ryan Ross
thats just greedy. ill stick with my incest pedo fantasy thank you very much
Connor Russell
Connor Powell
ok. so you both are what's called a "virtuous pedophile?" at least I think that's the term. maybe/maybe not different overall philosophies but basically feel that it's only the law that makes late prepubescent and early pubescent children unavailable.
wow!! that deserves a major nod of respect in my opinion. basically it's like being a recovering alcoholic. there's temptation everywhere. but the only reason you don't give in is the strength of your own personal will. that's amazing. I've always respected those that find ways to satiate their desires and innate drives without actually fulfilling them. so please know you have at least one individual's appreciation and respect for how you are living out your life. I continue to wish you the best in living the life you have chosen!
thank you both again.
Angel Howard
Well there are different types of people who like it. You can easily categorize them into stereotypes:
Pedophiles = Prefer photorealistic art and value it more than any other style.
Lolicons = Prefer eastern art style that heavily emphasises the aspects of "moe" and the way anime portrays emotions.
Furries = Lolis to them look a lot closer to anthropomorphic characters than to humans.
Flat chest lovers = Don't care about the artstyle as long as the characters are flat chested.
Bisexuals = Lolis to them look a lot like guys, and find that aspect appealing.
There are so many more.
Christian Perry
Imagine thinking drawings are people
Luke Peterson
adult sex itself is inherently immoral in that it spreads suffering, fear, and hate.
Noah Ross
The furries are probably the ones spamming the catgirl threads recently
Hunter Russell
Lolicon literally means pedophile.
Angel Flores
Bentley Murphy
do rapists ever jerk off to porn instead of attacking women?
Isaiah Ortiz
Levi Edwards
this is what an SJW who falls under the pedo category would say
James Diaz
check
Aiden Jackson
Places with more restrictive porn laws have more rape so probably.
You're just a scumbag coward who would throw people under the bus for doing the same thing as you because you feel morally superior.
Hunter Cook
Ryan Richardson
Chase Garcia
>You're just a scumbag coward
kek, did i struck a nerve?
Jeremiah Bell
Camden Rivera
Gabriel Bailey
Kevin Bennett
Alexander Young
Connor Gomez
Grayson Bailey
You did now with that horrible ESL
Bentley Bell
Andrew Clark
Caleb Price
Levi Scott
Joseph Rivera
I showered with my 9yo niece earlier today. Have done it quite a few times before but not in a while
Jose Nguyen
alright, give me the 6 digits
Owen Richardson
I take it you fapped while thinking about doing lewd things with her afterwards?
Jaxson Bell
Rape her then kill her then rape her lifeless body. Deliver with timestamp
Daniel Kelly
[Ashika] The king of Liliputh (Guzuguzu Shitetara Sodacchauyo) [English] [Higeteca]
amateur hour over here
Kayden Watson
cool! thank you for being open and explaining it to me. I really do appreciate it.
Mason Lopez
No but I'll admit she is cute as fuck
Blake Rivera
How did you convince her to do that?
Thomas Ward
Sauce?
Ian Wilson
exhentai.org
I posted all of it
Elijah Cox
Thanks user, you are very kind
Chase Perez
Sebastian Walker
I have two questions for everyone
>Do you think children should be allowed to vote?
>Do you think children can consent?
Henry Parker
No one should be allowed to vote and all children should be raped.
Gabriel Young
Was at the local pool/rec center after we were done swimming. We use the family locker room for convenience. Each stall thing has it's own changing area and shower. She could have waited and showered alone if she wanted but we are both fine doing it at the same time
Justin Sanchez
Where do lolitraps belong?
Ian Powell
Tbh I'd have a hard time not getting a boner. Were you able to keep it under control?
Luis Thomas
in the trash
Luke Smith
Hell.
Kayden Robinson
What did she say the first time she saw your boner?
Also, if shes 9 now, when was the first time that happened and how long do you plan to do it? I bet that when she hits 11 years old you wont be able to shower with her.
Joseph Cruz
Anyone got footjob pics?
Logan Lopez
I had one for a little while. She has 3 brothers and knows it's not something we can always control so it's not a big deal.
Nolan Carter
No to the former and yes to the latter
Women can consent but they shouldn’t be allowed to vote either
Landon Rodriguez
Ayden Brooks
I wish I raped this one girl in hs who was into me. Also what happen to primejailbait? They had some good stuff.
Samuel Hernandez
She never really said anything, she's seen dicks plenty of times. 1st time she was prob 7. As long as she is fine with it so am I. It's always up to her
Chase Morales
They shut down because they didn't think they'd be able to comply with some new European internet law.
Angel Martin
Has she ever made comments about your dick to you? Do you ever fantasize about fucking her?
Samuel Howard
Damn and I had stuff stocked up from that site but got paranoid when it got taking down, think i got 1 or 2 pics left tho. That site was legendary. Rip
Austin Jenkins
shota threads dude
Julian Jones
I get that shes cute and bathing with her sounds good and all. But after all that time you should have tried something more. As long as shes fine with it, like you said.
Kids that age are pretty curious and I think you could have achieved something that both enjoy.
Ethan Foster
>were not pedos guys i swear real loli not attractive
James Hall
can children consent to football concussions?
for sure!
can children consent to sexual pleasures?
nope.
Lucas Fisher
Who said that? Im a huge pedophile.
Wyatt Baker
Careful posting my wife buddy
Matthew Bennett
We're in a pedo thread, pretty sure you know what type of consent he meant. Plus in regards to football, parents have to consent on behalf of their children.
Luke Smith
Children can't sign contracts. Doesn't stop them from being artists, or athletes. That should be the case even more in the case of something so relatively safe as sex.
Adrian Thomas
Her body is very lewd for a 10 years old, I want to breed her.
Benjamin Moore
The point is that the activity of sex is singled out as being exceptional when it is not. The risks of it should be handled in the same way anything else is.
Julian Fisher
Just who exactly is going to run the research and then spread awareness to promote that sex is safe for children?
Lucas Adams
Logan Williams
Well, I'm personally glad my parents couldn't decide if some old guy would have sex with me or not. Pretty sure they'd just want money.
Oliver Young
What, you wouldn't want to be a sex slave as a kid? But sex is safe and fun!
Hudson White
Your parents could have starved you, and as long as it wasn't to bad they would have gotten away with it. Bad parents can do much worse things to a child than give them an orgasm.
Connor Torres
damn I love this artist and I've never seen that one before
Jack Collins
if you are going to the trouble of creating something that will get you a hefty jail-time... why bother censoring it?
Nathan Lee
Yeah they shouldn't be professional artists or athletes either, there's too much unchecked abuse by parents.
Henry Reed
No, starving was fine in the long run. Still glad I wasn't raped like my sisters.
Carson Long
If they don't start young, they can't really achieve the top of the level of skill there. Plus, it's good for character and all that.
Isaac Gomez
She's never said anything. She is excellent eye candy but I've never really thought about fucking her
Xavier Cox
man i wish society was okay with you being a lolicon and stuff but i think ima have to wait a while maybe sometime ltr in my lifetime but probably not and yes they can consent and sure they can vote i don't mind tbh
Ryder Nguyen
No reason they can't practice, being a professional just means getting paid. They can wait for that, and it will also build good character.
Nathan Adams
Starving is not nice by any measure, it permanently stunts growth, lowers iq, reduces health, etc. It's about the worse thing you could do to a child, legally.
Blake Cook
Must you think with your cock?
Jose Powell
>there are still people on Cred Forums who have never heard of japanese censorship laws
Christopher Bailey
lolis are cute
Michael Long
jail for what?
Levi Edwards
The, to some extent serious, competition aspect is an integral part of that. It wouldn't be the same with no stakes.
Brandon Hughes
I'm aware, I had fucking rickets as a kid. Grew up in a shack without plumbing or electricity, mother was mentally retarded (fever as a kid), and I shared a bed with 5 sisters. I was adopted by my cousin's husband around 13 and from there eventually got my law degree and joined the navy as a Jag officer. My sisters weren't so lucky.
Liam Young
You want stakes? Fame is a pretty big one.
Jaxon Sanchez
How bout stakes are getting a professional contract when you turn 18?
Owen Thompson
Jason Walker
Should I watch this anime?
Leo Harris
How famous is the best rythmic gymnast in the world?
I can see what you mean, though. Maybe it would be best to stop paying child actors, sport tournament winners, etc. I don't feel strongly either way. These are still risky activities which are not fundamentally different from sex.
Justin Phillips
It's been done for decades already, it's called Rind I think
Isaac Morales
Well it's clearly not working, maybe there's another issue with the whole idea then?
Isaac Russell
Christopher Myers
Sorry to hear that. Parents have a lot of responsibility, until we reach utopia we should not single out some specific potentially harmful activity as illegal, unless of course the true rationale is something different.
Owen Ramirez
>sample
Hunter Martinez
The best rhythmic gymnast in the world is famous to every coach and competitor as well as anyone associated with them (so a lot more famous than you or me). If as a child they had been scouted as having talent it would make sense to provide training and perhaps even a scholarship, but a professional contact just sets the kid up for abuse. All it takes is a low income household and a greedy parent.
Wyatt Collins
He meant to say loli, I'm pretty sure of it.
Joseph Kelly
Isaac Stewart
ahh its not bad about shogi and lots of cute loli fun lil anime
Isaiah Clark
I imagine if I talked to a real loli id lose my boner real quick as it is a child. Also imagine what she thinks while getting fucked "oh yea this grown man" the voice might make it hotter tho idk depends what she says.
Jacob Anderson
Yes why?
Nathan Barnes
My rationale is that parents will always abuse their children and when that happens it makes all of society worse. That is why our society has laws that protect children.
William Bennett
Josiah Baker
Sorry to be an omega normal fag, but artist name?
Levi Cruz
What is this? Where can I get it?
Adrian Gomez
That's pretty typical for an ego dystonic pedo such as yourself. Nothing to be ashamed of.
Robert Rogers
most girls are down for it u just gotta be enough of a Man and then genuine enough and it finds a way. we live with 8 billion people alive but maybe only 1/10 in the western world have personhood
Jace Foster
I agree
Mashiro has a lot of cute scenes
Grayson Wood
Well, as I said, I don't much care either way.
If tomorrow the olympics shut down I wouldn't mourn them.
I have just thought that some physically demanding careers end very soon, say after reaching 30 the physical performance starts decreasing. Wouldn't your suggestion cut into their earnings by a lot? That would reduce the incentive to pursue them in the first place.
Levi Sanders
Are we posting Louise?
Hunter James
Joshua Thompson
This is the pic that rescued my marriage. My wife peered over my shoulder as I was going through a loli thread. She was pissed that I was looking at porn with her in the room, but I was able to play it off as regular hentai. If she would have seen the one before or after we would have been done for because it was a toddler gangbang series. Thank God for the occasional hebe pic
John Perez
Yes, laws to protect them of extreme abuse. But sex is much safer that a lot of other activities which are not criminalized. What I was trying to get at is that the actual, historical, rationale behind passing these laws in the first place is not the welfare of the child but from pressure from moralistic prudery attitudes against sex.
Adam Gonzalez
Glad I could be of service
Ryder Harris
Real earnings don't begin until you're old enough to compete anyway. For Olympics gymnastics that's 16. Money earned in such a context would be better kept in a trust fund for when they become adults, but instead parents choose what happens to it.
Luis Allen
Logan Green
filename
Nicholas Baker
Laws don't know how extreme anyone's abuse is, but they have to draw a line somewhere. If you're trying to protect children and you have to allow for some level of error, perhaps it should be on the side that doesn't excuse abuse? We already know that there is a lot of sexual abuse towards children, they are easily manipulated to meet the desires of an adult they trust. A court of law can't see past such manipulations, the only way to protect kids against them is to prevent sexual relations all together.
Kayden Long
Noah Barnes
> perhaps it should be on the side that doesn't excuse abuse?
Not really. All laws have effects, both positive and negative. In a perfect world only laws with net positive effect should be passed. In this case the negative effects are false positives (say, child protective services taking your 14 year old son for walking two blocks to school), and the missed opportunities of positive sexual experiences which are deterred from it. I do not believe it obvious that the positive effects outweigh the negative here. Even further in the absence of good evidence either way the law should default to giving people freedom. Naturally, this has not been followed in this case.
Nathan Hall
Josiah Cooper
>Naturally, this has not been followed in this case.
It was in the past and it is in other countries. It's through experience with actual cases that laws are made in the first place, they aren't arbitrary. You want research? Most every court case dealing with abuse and children uses professional consultants and research (for both sides). You may think the outcomes are better for children if you give everyone more freedom, that's a very idealistic thought and I can see the rationale, it just doesn't take into account real world circumstances.
Brody Young
Is sadpanda still the best place for loli?
Anybody recommend me a good loli onahole?
Brandon Campbell
here goes the spoon
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Jaxon Martin
Man... Michael Jackson was looking pretty rough near the end.
Ian Stewart
Jackson Bailey
Alexander Wilson
Are you black by any chance?
Adrian Peterson
I don't think that's the case here at all. And not only for sexual contact, laws involving children are infamous for being ineffectual pandering in many cases. The electorate feels very strongly about "protecting the children", and so we get teenage girls charged with production of CP for naked selfies. I have seen the scientific evidence for the purported harms. I think it is not very strong and inconclusive. There are some that find none, as in Rind's case, and no study that establishes causation.
Brayden Adams
>I have seen the scientific evidence for the purported harms. I think it is not very strong and inconclusive
i dont think youre qualified to make that judgement
Jace Thompson
How would you now user?
I find this funny, I actually have some statistical expertise but you couldn't have known I did, your remark is simply baseless.
Hudson Allen
lol ok Professor Pedo, did you go to Vatican Upstairs Sociology College too
Jacob Mitchell
You'e right, having spent 10 years as in child advocacy and 20 as a criminal defense attorney I am probably just uninformed. I bow to your statistical expertise.
Parker Rivera
...
Josiah Nelson
I suppose you find it hard to believe that among the millions of educated people there would be a single pedo. The point is not even that, you simply could not have known either way. You're talking bullshit, plainly.
Michael Powell
Well, I didn't know that, sorry user. So please do make your case, I will review it.
William Evans
Excuse me user, but you've been debating with an educated pedo this whole time.
Jaxon James
no but really, whats it like at the Vatican. do you get to choose from the herd, or do they assign you one of the flock If You Know What I Mean
Jose Sanders
Precisely. Nothing more pedestrian to be honest. I am a bit baffled it this point, what are you getting at?
Cooper Edwards
If you must know, like most educated people I am an atheist, a man of the enlightement so to say. I would have been burning churches during the french revolution.
Anyway, I have heard priests are not particularly likely to be pedophiles, it just makes better headlines.
Lincoln Moore
I'm familiar with all the research you can find on pedo resource sites on the dark net, and some more in favor of your views that I haven't seen online. It was never my point that the research was conclusive, in fact the research will never be conclusive, so in that regard it is a moot point. The research can only show that there are in fact both positive and negative outcomes, and to a degree the negative outcomes can be predicted. That said, through child protection laws we have successfully lowered the rate of abuse and the statistics on this are in fact very clear. I am positive that there are also false positives as you say, as a defense attorney I believe I've seen them. Sometimes an innocent man can be charged with abuse, but he has a much better chance at defending himself than a child ever will.
Matthew Ortiz
ok. so, lets be clear. you're not qualified to say anything about anything then
Jonathan Lee
>The research can only show that there are in fact both positive and negative outcomes
It is my understanding that it doesn't even do that convincingly. There are too many confounders.
Ethan Taylor
Why would you think so?
Henry Morales
Out of the whole paragraph, you chose the moot point to stand your ground on?
Tyler Cruz
It is the crucial point in my view. If the research on harm is inconclusive on what grounds is it outlawed?
David Hughes
because rather than back up what you said you instaid said 'nyer nyer you cant prove im NOT qualified' and, well, im sure youll agree that 'trust me bro' isnt much proof of anything
Cameron Thomas
Well my basic contention is this one
In a more basic level I believe the burden of proof is not on me but on the one making a positive claim.
I have seen research hinting at this problem but as with many of the articles in this area it is of very low quality. You could start with the book "the trauma myth" if you want to.
Owen Brooks
no, youre still not answering my question.
>I have seen the scientific evidence for the purported harms. I think it is not very strong and inconclusive.
what, precisely, makes you qualified to judge this.
Matthew Barnes
I would rather not post my credentials in an anonymous forum. Specially considering the subject matter. It is an ad hominem anyway. If I was self taught, that would not matter, the evidence is what matters.
Alexander Bell
On the grounds that child protection laws are statistically shown to reduce the rate of child abuse. This has been the crux of the discussion since my first response.
Moreover, my wife is a medical doctor with a second doctorates in medical research. She had a key role in the ACEs study. ACE stands for Adverse Childhood Experiences, and sexual abuse in particular is a very significant area of research. Though only qualitative in nature, I've been convinced through it and my own personal experiences (I addressed some of which here: ). Though you may dispute the exact cause of distress or what should be considered abuse, the fact is that sexual abuse of children often leads to very significant developmental disorders.
Isaiah Myers
>On the grounds that child protection laws are statistically shown to reduce the rate of child abuse.
I do not doubt that, although I would like to see how its magnitude is quantified.
This appears to me a definitional issues, if "child abuse" is a harmless activity in this case, then what is the deal.
The rest of it might be interesting. You say you have been convinced, in this case you have the chance to convince me. Please show me articles.
Noah Morris
>If I was self taught, that would not matter, the evidence is what matters.
you are unqualified to judge the evidence one way or the other, so your outcome will therefore be flawed
Jackson Thompson
stop the presses, Professor Pedo is actually a hack fraud weirdo larper, who talks out his ass online lol. duuurrrr look at me, i know what im talking about a durrrrr
Daniel Hughes
Why would you think so? I have met self taught polymaths, they can be quite impressive.
Jackson Gonzalez
I can't give you the personal experiences and years of accrued knowledge that led me to my position in a place/format like this. I may be retired, but I also don't have the time or will. If you think there is at all a chance that you could be convinced than use that to fuel your own research. Otherwise, how can you live with yourself?
Blake Taylor
I have made my own research. So far I remain unconvinced, sorry.
Adam Wright
Gave up already? No, I'm sorry wasting your time. Best of luck user.
Jayden Brown
remember earlier you said you would 'rather not post my credentials in an anonymous forum'. well, that means youre basically talking out of your ass until you do post your credentials.
Blake Evans
nigger
Jeremiah Bennett
>Gave up already?
Are we talking past each other? I have evaluated some of the research, it is not difficult now that we have sci-hub. I estimated that continuing is not worth the opportunity cost, but I remain open to changing my mind given good research.
Michael Sullivan
I really don't understand you sorry.
Jonathan Jones
well, to summarise, i asked you how you were qualified to say:
>I have seen the scientific evidence for the purported harms. I think it is not very strong and inconclusive
and you havent posted how you were qualified to say that. so, basically, youre full of shit. lol
Brandon Morgan
And I said that's irrelevant, multiple times. So I still don't get you.
Lincoln Gutierrez
fantastic claims require fantastic proof
Parker Powell
Except it's not fantastic. You might believe otherwise from your own bigotry but that's not evidence of anything. If you want something more substantive you can start here, as I said before.
You ignoring what I am saying makes me suspect you're arguing in bad faith. I have some other things to do so I'll make this my last reply, sorry.
Gabriel Torres
oh no i made Professor Pedo mad :((((
Tyler Wright
peer reviewed articles and research goes against your claims. If you have empirical evidence that your position is valid or closer to truth, please share.
Brody Edwards
>I have seen the scientific evidence for the purported harms. I think it is not very strong and inconclusive.
i dont think youre qualified to make that judgement
Julian Lee
For the love of God, you fucks HAVE to stop posting the mspaint edit
Dominic Mitchell
>I have seen the scientific evidence for the purported harms. I think it is not very strong and inconclusive
Hey, mind showing us how you're qualified to come to that conclusion?
>I would rather not post my credentials in an anonymous forum.
Oh.
Leo Lee
i just want that lifestyle tbh
Owen Sanders
Get off Cred Forums Tyrone, go rob a convenience store or fuck your grandma.
Daniel Collins
SAUCE PLS
Kayden Sullivan
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Jayden Cook
its called pedophilia, look it up
Angel Myers
It's not ad hominem. It's appeal to authority fallacy.
Colton Williams
Appeal to Authority Fallacy
Leo Campbell
more like talking bullshit fallacy lol