Will it take off Cred Forums?

>this faggot doesn't know about the MAX
Lel

so it does take off then, yes?

What part of “no” don’t you understand?

No, wheel bearings will seize due to overspeed.

>Boeing
>Getting off
I think you have wrong assumptions

no? how come sir?

I said yes now suck it retard

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Yes it will take off. But it will be shot down shortly after takeoff.

no wind-friction on the wings means no liftoff. wheelspred doesnt matter at all.

Never mind, your right. The engines give lift to the plane, not the speed of which it moves

this is completely invalid

But... plane wheels have no motors or actually powered to move. Its just a tube on a wheel barrel. I don't get the question.

This

is that so?

will it take off?

The plane moves in the direction of the belt because they didn't take off the brakes, so it will crash backwards into the terminal or grass. I stood on a treadmill while it was running and I fell off.

Planes don't lift off going backwards.

why'd it go backwards?

ah, i see

The plane will keep going forward anyways since the wheels cannot stop it

If the wings are adjusted to give itself lift, then yes. But if the engines aren't giving any speed, then it'll crash.

Gravity and friction?

No it needs to be moving to generate lift. Powering the engines up on a conveyer that cancels the wheel movement won't allow it to move, so no it won't take off. As the plane moves, the wings create lower air pressure below the wing which is what generates lift.

How does the conveyor belt cancel the wheel movement?
>wings create lower air pressure below the wing which is what generates lift
lol

>a skateboard on a treadmill with a rocket attached cannot move forward
Thats how retarded you are

Are you saying the engines power the wheels?

Holy fucking shit your this stupid. If you put a skateboard on a treadmill and turned the treadmill on the skateboard would go backwards. There is no reason why the wheels would start to spin. If the wheels are matching your retard-mill then it might as well have engines and function normally. You fucking idiot learn how planes fly before making a thread like this.

Now imagine the skateboard has a jet engine to push it forward

Except it can't move forward if the treadmill is matching it's speed.

Aerospace engineer here, kids. Lift is strictly dependent on the difference of speed of airflow above and below the airfoil.

In other words, if the plane doesn't move forward, and there's no airflow over the wings: no, it will not take off.

>Will it take off Cred Forums?
It will not, but the reason why is not obvious.

Plane starts to roll forward, wheels turning at 1 mph, so the belt moves at 1 mph the other way.

We all together so far?

BUT, the belt moving makes the wheels have to turn faster -- they have to turn 2 miles an hour, and the belt has to match that so is now turning 2 mph.

SO the wheels have to turn faster as he belt rolls backwards under them -- and the belt matches their speed.

The belt accelerates to something near lightspeed, as must the wheels -- and the bearings on an airplanes wheels fail at some point, seizing up and shredding the wheels.

The wheels are no longer turning, they are shredded, probably the landing struts have sheered off, and the flamable parts of the wheel assemblies are no fire. The plane is either sitting on it's belly, burning, or on the wheel-less struts elevated a bit over some fire.

There are no longer any wheels, so the belt no longer moves. But the plane is in no condition to take off.

And if it takes the belt more than a second or two to stop, the plane has been shredded and launched backward off of the runway.

IT WOULDNT MOVE FOWARD BECAUSE YOUR TREADMILL WOULDNT ALLOW IT TOO. AND AT THAT POINT WHY AHEVA A MASSIVE FUCKING TREADMILL. YOU ABSOLUTE RETARD KILL YOURSELF RIGHT NOW SO THIS EARTH DOSENT HAVE TO DEAL WITH YOU.

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It doesn't match the planes speed though, it matches the "wheel speed" which makes no sense, and would not prevent the plane from moving
The treadmill could be running at 10mph, and I could push the skateboard forward at 1 mph. The treadmill is then going 10x faster, but still can't stop external forward thrust

But nothing is stopping it from moving forward

on the ground the wheel speed and plane speed at the same. Simples it down to your retard brain

Wheel speed doesnt exist, only revolutions.
If the circumference of the wheel was larger than the length of the entire belt on the treadmill, the treadmill would have to slow down

did you just post a selfie? be careful not to dox yourself
anyway, how would the treadmill stop it moving forwards?

Then, yes, it will take off. ;-)

No. No airflow. No lift. No take off.

The belt movement will create an airflow through skin friction, given strong enough bearings this airflow might be enough to get the plane flying

the afterburners will eventually charge up for it to take off. like how rockets launch and shit.

I don't think it was meant that the conveyor belt matches the wheel rotational speed, rather the speed of the wheels as an object in reference to the frame of reference

Planes can take off going backwards, and even fly backwards, as long as you are referring to ground speed and not airspeed.

And aircraft gets no lift from its engines, only from the wings.

For the wings to produce upward lift, they need a certain amount of airspeed for the pressure differential to pull the wing upward.

So for example if you mounted a glider on a boat, if you got the boat going fast enough, even though the glider doesn't move at all compared to the boat, it would take off when wind going over the wings was sufficient.

Likewise, the reason an airplane can fly backwards is if its flying into enough of a headwind that its ground speed is negative. Rarely do aircraft that carry people achieve this, but its quite common with ultra-light high lift RC planes.

tl;dr: The aircraft will have no problems taking off, because the engines will provide forward thrust which will create airspeed needed over the wings to take off. The wheels are not powering the vehicle, so it doesn't matter how fast the wheels or treadmill are going, they will just spin at twice their regular speed.

One correction for you: it has EVERYTHING to do with "airspeed."

/thread. Thank you.

The conveyor belt cancelling the wheel speed is the premise. There was no mention of how that would work, it's just an assumption.

Thank you. But the retards in this thread will still argue.

Retard

Because the giant jet engines still push the plane forward, even on a treadmill
You are correct the retards will argue, you're just unaware that your position is the retarded one

i hope you know wheels are just literally to reduce traction between the plane and the ground
i'd be surprised if the wheels would even turn on it's own

Wrong.

It's factually correct

>The conveyor belt cancelling the wheel speed is the premise.
where was it stated that this was the premise? it just said that the belt would be going as fast as the wheels are

No, for a plane to take off a horizontal thrust force lust be achieved to produce lift. Lift is a function of thrust, velocity and ultimately acceleration as defined by newtons 2nd law. Since the conveyor maintains a constant speed (rpm) and object would also experience zero acceleration and thus the sum of forces would be zero. The plane wouldn't take off.

>for a plane to take off a horizontal thrust force lust be achieved
You mean like a giant jet engine?

Sorry I assumed the engines were disabled, kinda obvious to the answer.

The planes speed relative to the conveyor is 0 regardless of what speed the conveyor is moving. Thus if you had the conveyor on and your engines enabled you would be able to take off. The ability to accelerate is the key concept

Question for you mongoloids
What moves the plane forward in mid air?

I mean if the engines are going its going to outpower the treadmill fast

>spherical cow

Let’s say it’s on a long strip with nothing behind it, they take off the brakes and go full speed. Will it take off?

Thrust you retard

If that's the case, then yeah, it will move forward because the wheels are not on a drive shaft or drive axial like on a car. They move freely like a figit spinner.

And what creates the thrust?

The car engine.

There was a time when I enjoyed these arguments. That shit was at least ten years ago. Fuck off, retards.