So, he threatened to withhold some money unless Ukraine announced an investigation into Biden...

>Just kys fag
I'm not that user, but you are one pathetic little internet faggot.

"I never understood wind," Trump said, according to Mediaite. "I know windmills very much, I have studied it better than anybody. I know it is very expensive. They are made in China and Germany mostly, very few made here, almost none, but they are manufactured, tremendous - if you are into this - tremendous fumes and gases are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world, right?"

"So the world is tiny compared to the universe. So tremendous, tremendous amount of fumes and everything. You talk about the carbon footprint, fumes are spewing into the air, right spewing, whether it is China or Germany, is going into the air,"the president added.

He's beyond and idiot. He's literally an Alzheimer's patient that can make focus for 10 minutes with cocaine. The world is over after this man, don't have kids like I did.

HOW is HE blocking investigation, retard???? Dems have had full power to do whatever they want and investigate whatever they want. They took all the time they wanted to investigate during the House precedings. Investigaton is OVER, now its the trial... theres no more investigation happening, therefore no investigation to stop. Its now the trial. try to keep up..

and anytime the Senate BTFO of the Dems and ruins their case (because they got shit), that doesnt mean Trump is "sToPpInG ThE InVeStIgAtIoN"

that's not what the transcript says

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>1
It is? then why did Trump send the money without the case being "investigated/cleared?

>2
He asked for a favor, and set it as a condition for financial aid he was obliged to send. That's illegal

>3
Everyone in the opposing party is his political rival

>4
Then why is Trump saying that there was no quid pro quo?
Aid is not an agreement.
Trump's #1 priority was Trump, not Dumberica

>5
Lock Her Up: Reloaded?
lol

>6
Orange man good. Orange man perfect

not what happened

It’s certain.

he ordered almost a dozen of his cronies to interfere with the investigation. they all told him to go fuck himself

Trump is going to be acquitted and he'll win re-election later this year.

This particular impeachment is a political maneuver by Democrats who have very little chance of winning the election.

He literally told every agency subpoenaed to not comply with the house investigation, you ill informed sperg.

c

who's been running "education" all these years?
you've only got yourselves to thank. you systematically dumbed down four or five generations with shit public education and now they're voting for the other dipshit instead of /your/ dipshit. it's almost like decades of scapegoating white people created the conditions for trump's populist message and appeal to take root.

>arbitrarily capitalizes the word 'education'
>neglects punctuation
>posts stale meme about muh jooze
>expects its appeal to intellect to be taken seriously by anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together

You do realise that trump is undermining global agreements and is only making the global usa hate even more?

To be clear, im not a supporter and also dont hate him. But some ppl just refuse to are what he is doing.

But whatever dude...

So... who pays for the wall now?

Fucking autocorrect

> (OP)
>Imagine actually being upset that our president is trying to expose corruption, and trying to convince people its illegal for him to even ask about it.

Most Democrats are deluded fucks. Any normal human beings with at least half a brain have done abandoned the democrat party and this is including Trump who was a life long Democrat. The dems lost touch with and abandoned the middle and working class years ago.

That's pretty much it. Good post

No argument here. A pox on both their houses.

The Dems didnt go through the courts to obtain supinas....because it was soooooo urgent to impeach him ASAP (33 days later goes to Senate). They didn't go through the courts because they didnt have shit. But they told all you CNN fans they had so much evidence already. Why you need more?

for me it's the fact that the Trup administration bought the idea hook line and sinker that there was a massive conspiracy going on in Ukraine (that has been debunked multiple times) and then they went over there, made phone calls, extorted foreign leaders for political favors; and all of it was based on a crazy lie. If the Democrats had whipped up a honey pot this would be perfect...but it was the GOP media that fed itself it's own lie. because of this crazy lapse in judgment Trump is in deep shit and people are probably going to jail.

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look at it this way. the Trump administration is once again working with foreign eastern European leaders from foreign soviet countries to get (made up) damaging information on opponents in an election. I'm floored they have been protected as long as they have be..but finally house democrats are putting their foot down.

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Nope, see
Hence why TV channels aren't even airing the impeachment charade
wvnstv.com/politics/cbs-early-exit-shows-decisions-networks-face-on-impeachment/

And polls show the majority are either indifferent to the impeachment charade, or want the Senate to find Trump innocent and end it quickly.
newsweek.com/poll-record-high-against-convicting-trump-senate-impeachment-trial-1483450

Hence why most polls show Trump winning in November if nothing dramatic - recession, unpopular war - occurs, and Repubs are likely to take the House / expand their Senate majority.
washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/15/donald-trump-woos-hillary-clinton-converts-bid-rus/

>Imagine actually being upset that our president is trying to expose corruption
wow, you are either retarded or being paid to post here by big daddy Pootin'

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Yeah, none of that really surprises me. If Dems nominated Bernie, Trump would lose handidly. But the establishment has already decided Bernie is going to get fucked over AGAIN, run a Biden / Warren & Trump will win by a landslide.

TL;DR - The Dems condemned themselves to a repeat of 2016.

Good point. All the retarded shit Democrats pulled recently have sealed Trump's re-election. We could have had the dream ticket of Tulsi / Yang, or a Bernie ticket. Both would have guaranteed a Democrat victory in November. But we're gonna have 5 more years of the orange retard.

/thread

Yes and it's complete bullshit! Pelosi caved to the nutjob freshman squad and now we're going to have this piece of shit tangerine facist in power til 20205. I fucking hate the Establishment Dems! Fuck them and their corporate masters! Same shit Hillary did that brought this mother fucking corrupt bastard to power in 2016!!

yeah, Putins secret master plan to make america great is working out perfectly!!hahahahaha

This is an astounding example of delusional thinking

Well put. Pretty concise analysis of why the Democratic party has guaranteed Trump's reign of errors.

Amen. 100% this. Thanks to the DNC elite handing the nomination to Biden and Warren, the Democrats won't have any position of power in either the executive or legislative branches in the next 6 years - possibly longer.

Sadly, can't disagree with that. Looks like it's inevitable that the Democrats are doing another 2016 deal.

aren't airing impeachment?
huh?
youtube.com/watch?v=8Z2KReYuIYY

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What's really fun is that both major parties are at fault.

But they aren't the root cause. While you idiots bicker back and forth about partisan bullshit, the rich oligarchs that bought out the entire political spectrum in the 70s are laughing all the way to the bank.

user, his link cited their main channel carried on over-the-air, cable systems, satellite services. Not their streaming news platform. Are you illiterate, retarded - or both?

Only thing delusional is thinking Bernie could beat trump. hes a better getting young people fired up with is "free shit" nonsense but Socialism is FAR more unpopular than you think. Majority of people know that Bernie is a Hypocrite. He's a Millionaire pretending to hate the rich. A Capitalist pretending to hate capitalism. Bernie might very well be the Only sincere person, and hes actually grass-roots funded.. but his Ideas suck and wont beat Trump while we're in this economy. Theres nobody in the Dem field that can beat Trump, besides Tulsi. Tulsi is the only the that could stand a chance. but she wont get that chance because she isnt controlled by the DNC/Hillary. DNC will nominate someone they can control and someone who will gladly lie to the public in order to get elected. Its going to be Either Biden or Warren. also meaning its going to be TRUMP2020!

Uhhh, that's CBS's CNN-ripoff streaming news service that has less than 120,000 regular, consistent viewers at any given time. Not CBS Television network, which has over 100 regional affiliate stations in the U.S. and Canada & reaches over 300 million households. Maybe try to read the actual article, bruh.

What a dumbfuck.

What is Executive privilege?

so:
>newsweek.com/poll-record-high-against-convicting-trump-senate-impeachment-trial-1483450
"43 percent of voters disapprove of the Senate convicting and removing President Donald Trump from office"

lol what a landslide

>wvnstv.com/politics/cbs-early-exit-shows-decisions-networks-face-on-impeachment/

yeah, but you can still watch it. equating not covering a 12 hour impeachment trial to no crimes is a joke. try harder

>washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/15/donald-trump-woos-hillary-clinton-converts-bid-rus/

basic Washington Times propaganda, especially when they have to bring up hillary. If you see an article accusing Hillary of something it's usually right wing made up trash

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Trump's November victory is gonna have you tying a noose and dangling from a tree, huh pumpkin?

Kek! Guaranteed there'll be a mass left wing suicide when Trump & the GOP sweep November.

Cope, tranny. Dialate and stock up on anti-depressants cause Trump's gonna keep making America great.

>unironically thinking Sanders is advocating for socialism or free shit

You could at least be mildly informed before you spout this kind of stuff. Universal affordable healthcare and higher education are simple things every single other white, first world country has already figured out.

That's called 'social democracy' which is a capitalist ideology that maintains basic services people need to offset the exploitative nature of capitalism.

Socialism would be if Sanders was suggesting the means of production should be owned by the workers. Which is an economic ideology he is NOT suggesting.

Too boot, idk why anyone would be excited at having Trump again in 2020.

Am i confused, the stream seems to have the words CBS on it

so yeah, CBS is televising it, and will likely cover it on the evening news tonight

Like this:
youtube.com/watch?v=JtFX9RgpxGk

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How outside sometimes, kid.

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He, literally, released the transcripts. He never threatened to withhold the money.

It's not like biden fired a prosecutor investigating the foreign company his son was wor... oh yeah. Forgot.

*Go

what a great refutation. i can call names too

I think you're a trailer living doo-doo head

that means i win right?
i'm suprised it took you 2 min to same fag that reply too

look if you wanna actually make an argument how those articles aren't bias junk or false equivalency then be my guest, otherwise adults are talking

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There has been a case pending in the courts for McGhan to testify since April, because the administration is trying to stall for as long as possible. Yes, the impeachment process needs to happen without taking time to drag everything out to the Supreme Court over the next 2 years. Yes, the senate should be compelling documents and witnesses to hold a real trial. The vast majority of Americans support those notions.

>everyone who doesn’t subscribe to my cultist ideals is being brainwashed by CNN!!!

You are a clown.

> that Biden HIMSELF bragged about doing.
no.

yeah,how outside dumbass!!!!!

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It’s on every network channel except Fox, jackass.

Very few people watch steaming news services in the U.S., and most U.S. television networks have stopped simulcasting the impeachment trial because it's losing them and their affiliates ad revenue, viewers. That, along with several polls this week showing only about~23% of Americans care about the impeachment, means that it's basically only people who already hate Trump that are watching the Senate trial. It's had zero negative impact on Trump based on every poll over the last 4 weeks. Those who hated Trump before still hate him, those who support Trump still support him and the majority of voters - independents - still respond in poll after poll that the state of the economy will be the one deciding factor when they vote in November.

If a simple Australian like me can have this firm a grasp of Americuck's political scene, why are you native Amerifats so ignorant about it?

It’s not blanket immunity to congressional oversight, that’s abuse.

not the user you're responding to, but none of our local affiliate channels are carrying it except nbc. and they're only covering like an hour of it this afternoon. the rest was pre-empted by soap operas.

Not where I'm at. We don't have any of our local channels airing it. they stopped yesterday an haven't broadcast a second of it all day.

Oh look, it’s the duuuuurilate faggot again, using a word he doesn’t understand in some obscure context and pretending like it’s an insult.

>/golfclap

yeah, nope. Live in Cincinnati and ABC 9 is showing it. Everyone else is showing their usual daily schedule.

this is exactly the problem. everyone wants to put it on the voting public, but there's way more culpability that goes beyond John Q America. garbage schooling, along with the far left rhetoric that's coupled with ostracizing 2/3 of the country by being inherently against traditionally white ideals, and you have a watered down shit show that's graspable by the lowest common denominator. hillary should have absolutely won, and yet the democrats only have themselves for the current conditions that were years in the making.

>I'll just name call because I dont have reasoning skills.

Not sure what part of the country you're in, dude. But I can't find the impeachment trial on any of our tv stations. CNN, msnbc & fox news are the only ones that have it on. none of the networks.

Funny how it’s on every American network right now. Maybe you should stick to Australian matters, since you clearly can’t get basic facts correct, across continents.

What state are you in? literally none of the channels I get are showing the shit. i live in northern Oregon.

The house only establishes charges congress investigates. So when the house came prying he had every right to tell anyone from the executive branch to tell them to piss off.

nobody accused of a crime should ever let evidence or witnesses of their crime into the courtroom.

CBS, ABC and NBC here.
Maybe you live somewhere where they don’t want you to know the facts.

While in the real world:
Are you brain damaged? Yeesh, they need to b& you dumbshit boomers from 4chin.

I'm glad to see all the koalas didn't but, but sad to see your computer didn't

but,
i'm watching it. and there is a place you can watch it online, and it will be covered on several news sites tonight...just not little hands fox network

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> Is it possible that your president is just completely fucking incompetent?
he's not my president

Can confirm we're not getting it on any of the local channels. I only get Fox network, ABC and CBS with my shitty aerial antenna an none of them are showing the trial.

youtube.com/watch?v=8Z2KReYuIYY

tune in

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the recorded call has never been released
he put it on a classified hard drive
why would he let evidence be presented against him?

> local affiliates

I wonder why? It certainly couldn't be because your local station is owned by Sinclair Broadcasting, a right wing media giant??

This. Just turned my TV on and our local NBC channel's got it, but not CBS, Fox, ABC, MyTV, Ion, etc.

That’s the trump policy. In fact it has been for his entire career. The guy is a walking non-disclosure agreement.

the president committed no crime, it's fully legal for him to rig the 2020 election because all elections in the US are rigged
time.com/5768470/donald-trump-impeachment-trial-constitution/

medium.com/theyoungturks/dnc-we-can-legally-choose-candidate-over-cigars-in-back-room-e3026730e252

>Little hands fox news.

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=/= no crimes just because every network isn't showing the trial in it's entirety. come 7:00 every channel in this country will have an in depth analysis of what happened including bias fox news who is just gonna spew shit all over the news desk and then stroke Trump's ego

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bingo. no coverage on our channels either. just went thru cbs,nbc,abc, fox,ctv,global, citytv...none of the canadian or american channels we get are airing it. northern rhode island.

trump has small hands

trump likes fox news

fox news panders to at least one man with small hands

little hands fox news

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It's the fucking official transcripts. That's like saying, "I'm going to ground you because you did something."
"I didn't do anything, here's a written recap of my day that was recorded by another person."
"I'm going to ground you anyway because I just think you did something."

That is the dumbest argument I've ever heard about this situation.

same situation. Live in central Florida. None of our local stations are covering it.

youtube.com/watch?v=8Z2KReYuIYY

well then you're in luck!

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Guy, it’s on channels 4, 7 and 9 here. You raging and throwing a fit doesn’t change that fact. Also, “the real world” isn’t trying to cover this up by not covering it.

Bingo.

>Central Florida

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see I wrote down what I said just trust me you don't have to hear the actual call

user, FCC regulations forbid one entity from owning more than one major broadcast network affiliate in a single market. Thanks for confirming how retarded the typical left wing Democrat is.
fcc.gov/sites/default/files/fcc_broadcast_ownership_rules.pdf

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813 checking in. YouTube only.

Samefag.

Bingo

But...

He didn't write it down. It's a transcript. The call was overheard by numerous people. Plus there were translators.

You can't be this damn dumb user.

Yeah, same here. Only able to get the impeachment trial via Youtube streams. None of our local network tv stations are broadcasting it. just the usual court shows, soap operas, maury, steve wilko, jerry, etc.

I know, why would that evil transcript show trump leaning on world leader to meddle in our elections...must be Mexican paper! better send it back to the secret detention server!

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In our market, Sinclair owns channels 2, 31 and 20. Those are the network channels it is not on. ABC, CBS and NBC are all airing it. Not Fox, WB or MYNetworkTV.

>Things that never happened for $500 Alex.jpg

transcript
noun
a written copy

I'm not disagreeing with that. What I'm saying is there were so many ears that heard the phone call directly PLUS Trump didn't write his own transcripts as you implied.

Please be more polite

they could do that, if one of those channels isn't in the top 4 of the channels. maybe 31 is #5 in viewership. so theoretically sinclair could own

#1, #2, and #5 and be legit

but i digress

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i know, we should be more polite, us Liberals...especially when the president is so urbane and so kind when talking about immigrants, minorities, news media etc.

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where is the recording I want to hear it

You and me both. Would bring this whole thing to screeching halt.

I'm listening to Schiff now. I fucking hate hearing him speak. There are so many holes in this entire story.

Why did liberals ruin truck nuts?

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I want to hear the call as well. if it was so innocent why not release it? Innocent men don't hide evidence if it could exonerate them

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Trump didn't claim executive privilege.

You're 100% factually correct in what you just said.

If I'm a betting man and going by Trump's history, he's allowing this to blow up into a big ordeal to thoroughly beat the Democrats and make them look like idiots. Look at the media attention these "scandals" have gotten yet nothing stuck. This would be the nail in the Democrats coffin.

>reads transcript
>bottom of transcript says it isnt a transcript
>says it's a memo and to see transcript for actual events.

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we saved you from yourself. those things when used un-ironically make you look like trash

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Trust us, we already know this. No one gives a shit about much in general here in the States, so why would we care about politicians going back and forth like they normally do? This isn't anything new for us, we're almost desensitized at this point...

>supinas
Kek.

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I somehow doubt a guy who claims Washington Stormed an Airport has the chops to pull that off

that's why they tired to hide all that shit on a top secret server. it's ironic how information on a server might be his undoing

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I live in New York, and my parents watched literally every part of the impeachment proceedings. Everything from the over-exaggerated walking down to the house/ senate, the literal hours of voting, and all the commentary in between that you could ask for. These were all on NBC, CBS, CNN, and ABC, that's all my parents watch since they're left leaning retirees who worked in the public sector. The absolutely despise Trump, and I think my mom would disown me if she knew I voted for him & will likely vote for him again now that Tulsi has no chance...

youtu.be/_fHfgU8oMSo

them faking the lunar landing is probably some of the funniest shit I've ever seen

implying they had green screen tech and digital editing in the late 60s is fucking lol

Transcall (selective replacement of colors) was invented by Scitex, an Israeli company, about that time for its analogue system. So maybe yes, maybe no.

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beat me to it

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I like how the rest of the world likes to shit on the US for voting Trump in, but you have to realize that we were voting against Hillary more than we were voting for Trump. 8 years of GWB and another 8 years of Obama was over a decade and a half of increased military conflict, going from 2 to 7 under Obama alone, the erosion of our perceived right to privacy under the Patriot Act after 9/11, unwarranted bail outs for "too big to fail" institutions who got stupidly rich of the establishment's backing, and the 2016 election was our last ditch effort to get away from business as usual. Many of us who voted for Trump didn't even want to vote for him, but we didn't want to vote for Hillary more so we essentially voted anti-establishment politics. Forget all the memes, forget ANTIFA and Neo-Nazis, forget all the talking heads who exacerbate the polar divides, we're pretty much just a country full of people stuck between those two poles who are just looking to be heard for once, and we knew Hillary wouldn't listen just like Bush Jr and Obama didn't listen. Tulsi was the only one who could have had the support of the people in dethroning Trump, and she wound up being shafted by the establishment.

…and "boom" goes Sally Ride.

should be shown in every civics class.

How'd that work out for y'all?

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Honestly, it worked out just as well as we anticipated it would. People like to make jokes about how America voted for Trump's lies, but we all knew that Mexico wasn't going to pay for the wall, he wasn't going to repeal and replace the oppressive money machine that is Obamacare, and we knew he wouldn't keep us out of armed conflict with other nations. We just wanted to let the world know that we were fed up with the status quo, and I think our point was made. I'm hoping that after Trump is out of office, we get someone in like Tulsi who could actually make our situation better from a true political standpoint.

> blames jews

here we go again

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Not blame, just history. Sorry, Shmuel.

but you cut off your nose to spite your face? objectively trump is a giant step backwards in everything. giving more power to the rich, abuses of power, more saber rattling and war funding, Nazis coming back...and so on.

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you gonna call Ivanka's husband that?

Trump is fuckin' BRILLIANT!
One of the sharpest Businessmen I've ever seen.
Trump is a master of getting shit done and he's exactly the president we need right now.

Unfortunately, he's not practiced in Washington politics and I think he seriously underestimated the hold that the whole government bureaucracy on remaining overpaid do-nothings.
Still................I think he's doing a pretty good good job at actually running the country and I hope he gets 4 more years without being constantly attacked by a Democrat majority because I'd really like to see how quickly he's able to really pull this country's shit together.

The "Nazi" issue is completely overblown. Not for anything, but the only people who really attack other races in America are unruly blacks who think they're Egyptian or Jewish or whatever. Regardless of your memes, Trump is more like the rest of the people in that picture than you'd like to admit.

I think objectively we can say Trump is not a brilliant businessman, or a genius

besides you sound like you know him...Vladimir...is that you?

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the electoral college will never elect a woman to be president and the DNC will never choose a socialist to win an "election"

My 401k / stock portfolio didn't perform as well as it should have under Obama, but it's rebounded quite nicely under Trump and has exceeded what I thought they'd do. In a point in time where previous administrations completely bloated out in overspending for shit that never worked out, at least I'll be able to retire comfortably and be able to afford healthcare for the rest of my life, own my home and vehicle, and buy a second home without having to belt tighten or work after I'm retired. Idk how many of you can live like that wherever you're from, but if that's how bad it is for me then I'll gladly keep it that way.

Yeah, it's no secret that he inherited his wealth and that he isn't self made. No one really cares about what he did or didn't do, they literally just wanted something different so that further change could pave the way 2020 onward.

so then why won't the trump administration 100% denounce Nazis and the KKK. not the whishy washy shit.

you do know that Trumps dad may have marched with the KKK. He was there, He was arrested for refusing to disperse in the march. it's no smoking gun, but it's there

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well you dun fucked up then, didn't you?

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Trump said all hate groups are bad, why that doesn't appease your fragility is beyond me. Why single out just one if you really don't like any of them and have denounced all of them as a whole?

I know, but the popular vote did.

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Unless you have a crystal ball that can already see how 2020 is going to play, you're not really in a position to call whether or not we "dun fucked up"

>he's just an innocent guy
>maybe he's just incompetent
>so he got some soldiers hurt
>what of it!
>and digging into biden? meh
>tax cuts for the ultra rich? trump only made an extra billion, pennies!
>vacationing every week at mar-a-lago where the Chinese have been siphoning secrets? MEH!
>taking orders from putin and calling our generals and spies retards? he's just incompetent.
>starts a quick war in iran, gets a couple of bases hit with missiles for a quick bump in the polls? who hasn't!!
> He's a GEM. maybe a little incompetent, but REMEMBER HILLARY AND OBAMA OMG OMG! RIGHT? RUSSIA. JEWS. RUSSIA. JEWS. MAGA!! AMIRITE!
>he may be the Messiah!

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The thing is that Eurofags care way more about what he tweets and what he says more than we do, and that's why you have an issue with it. Think about it, the only way we could potentially get a Tulsi or a Yang in the future is if an anti-establishment precedent is set, and Trump is the one who set it. Hate him for grabbing em by the pussy, hate him for not going down the list of mentioning every single specific hate group when he denounced all hate groups, or hate him because he has a shitty toupe, but we took a long shot to get out from under the shitstorm we were headed for and it worked. You Eurolosers are so afraid of shaking things up because you all couldnt handle change and wound up with Hitler and Mussolini, and it ended as quickly as it started and now your women are being raped and your countries are being turned into the Middle East. You're bankrupt, you don't contribute any real financial power, and you're all basically a weak shadow of your former imperialist history.

>Is it possible that your president is just completely fucking incompetent?
Strike the "just". He's far worse than "just" incompetent.

I have a magic time machine called the last 4 years that told me we fucked up

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that was just suggestions
only 500 people actually vote for president

Lol We wouldnt expect some idiots in europe to understand our situation. you didnt have people lose careers just because some politician decided to change healthcare around. people literally got let go of their jobs and couldnt afford the skyrocketing healthcare that only went up in price wityh less availability under obama. say what you will about everything else, but americans actually care about healthcare as a top priority.

kill every member of the electoral college and that might matter

this assumes ALL billionaires are bad. it takes people who are "in the know" about how the system runs (people like Trump) in order to dismantle it and get rid of the corruption. Just like it takes good guys with scary guns to stop bad guys with scary guns. Yes this means we have to TUST Trump and those he trusts.... maybe its a long-shot but its by far the best chance we've got to "draining the swam" that is DC, Intel agencies, and Media. and judging by their desperation to get rid of him since day-one, .... id say Trump is one of the good guys

The funny part is that I keep bringing up facts and reasoning and logic, and you doofuses can only produce one line quips and memes. If you don't want to understand and wallow in confirmation bias that's fine, but don't pretend that you have a mental grasp on what's going on in the United States.

Yeah, it was the electoral college that pushed out Bernie Sanders and gave us a candidate we didn't actually want. The DNC is doing the same shit they did last time, only this time they've shafted Tulsi and Yang in favor of Biden and Warren. Bernie has no chance, and the rest of the candidates aren't what the DNC wants to hedge their bets on. They're going to lose this one just like they lost the last one, and it's going to be their own fucking fault yet again.

I don't even think Trump is a "good" guy, I think he's a self serving know-nothing who can't seem to get out of his own way. However, he's been exponentially better for us than Hillary would have been, and he's shown the country that the American people aren't willing to put up with more of the same politics as usual, and I'm hoping 2024 will go in the same direction as 2016 only with candidates like Yang and Tulsi, people I can actually get behind.

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh I love my trumpy why don't you waaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh

oh you precious, poor thing

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand back to Hillary.

what excuse are ya gonna use with the 2020 dem nominee kiddo

that's a good summary

I wouldn't have to make an excuse if they did the right thing and made Tulsi or Yang the lead. You keep coming back to thinking I actually want Trump when I don't, that's why you're having a hard time understanding where I'm coming from.

I love how not 1 trump lover replies to your post since there is no argument to refute a direct quote that proves beyond any doubt that Trump is that stupid spoiled kid at every school.

That one with well off parents but the brain of a fucking 5th grader combined with all the confidence of a silver-spoon life.

a loser, a moron, an idiot, an adult with the mental capacity of a slow highschool kid. Never grew up, never matured, but his confidence kept growing thanks to family fortune and fame.

Fuckin' sad really. I dont think Trump is 'evil' like some leftists. I think he is on the mentally retarded spectrum.

Anyway, just wanted to point out that your quote completely /thread this shit and it was fun to not read the 200 weak ass posters that tried to pretend you didnt BTFO their ass for supporting a person with a weak mind and weak body to lead our country.

the DNC will never choose a socialist to win the election

I literally did a few posts up, get your reading comprehension up. I said we don't give a fuck that he's a loser, you care more than we do. We just wanted to set a precedent for future change to occur.

Tulsi isn't a socialist, and Yang teaming up with her as VP could secure a broad scope of democrat voters from each end of the spectrum. That's my perfect world scenario.

I live in a red state. You, personally, whatever your name is might have thought that way.

The majority of voters did not. They're my fucking rich neighbors and my toothless ex con class mates. They werent changing things. They were telling me how great it was going to be to get rid of "that nigger".

Stop fucking kidding yourself.

You living in a red state sounds like more of a you problem than an us problem. Maybe you should move?

tell it to the DNC

I did. I've made calls and written letters about how a lifelong voter for the democratic party felt like I had no other option but to vote for Trump in the last election. They probably see me as an individual case, but that's just their own antiquated train of thought not realizing that they don't realize how close they are to losing yet another election.

>Yeah, it was the electoral college that pushed out Bernie Sanders
The electoral college has nothing to do with a party’s primary. Those rules are set by the party. The DNC fucked Bernie all by themselves. The same centrist wing of the party and corporate media are again heavily biased against Bernie (but not against Liz Warren for some bizarre reason given that while she’s slightly right of Bernie she’s still wildly left of Biden or Pete or Amy), but in fairness they have changed the superdelegate rules this year. Has yet to be tested but they aren’t allowed to vote against the plurality this time.

no one care about your stupid American bullshit, piss off too Cred Forums

Canadians, Australians, Kiwis, fucking Chinese we don't spam Cred Forums with NERD POLITICS BULLSHIT.

NO ONE CARES AMERICUNT

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I was being sarcastic, I'm well aware that it's the DNC's own fault with Bernie and the last election. Elizabeth Warren is far more of a centrist than she's leading on, she's just trying to appear more progressive to ursurp some of Bernie's supporters to dominate over Biden.

no, you losers just spam Cred Forums instead.

He should have been impeached over emoluments, war crimes, and or using campaign funds as hush money for his mistress.

A lot of idiots here like him for his macho man ego, and how he 'triggers the left'. Really, he's just a bumbling idiot. A pussy as well.

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>Is it possible that your president is just completely fucking incompetent?
it is a fact.

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If GWB didn't get tried for war crimes with Iraq, there's no way in hell that Trump would be. A precedent has been set, and it'll continue that way until a sitting president pulls an Adolf Hitler and tries to exterminate an entire race of people.

you act like racism wasnt becoming a problem under Obama. not for anything, but the rise of white nationalist groups is a direct result to the rise of black supremacist groups that have exploded across the country in the last ten years.

Uhhhh uh political something or another, fascist socialism party. Dems and republicans. I smart

couple that with the extreme rhetoric from the left that's working to isolate the majority of americans, and you're going to have a polarizing effect that leads to hate groups running rampant. dont kick people when they feel like theyre already getting the shit end of a situation, thats how fascist italy and nazi germany happened...

you act like a befuddled dink

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Ever heard of attempted murder? Dipshit.

Yes, he is completely incompetent, but he also attempted to abuse the power of his office for personal political gain.

The fact that his attempt was unsuccessful doesn't let him off the hook.

This is why *attempted* robbery is considered a crime — no successful robbery required.

>ballooned
it's 22 trillion
for perspective in 2015 it was...
22 trillion
lol
>hate crimes, muh raycizm
ok
>our allies no longer trust us
lol
[citation needed]
>trade war destroying us
ok
>immigrant babies are dying
[citation needed]
[appeal to emotion]
>McConnell is sabotaging democracy
lol jesus christ

Biden didnt admit to it until 2018. The phone call was made after Zelensky became Ukraine president in 2019.

Were you thinking that Biden would have left Trump a memo when the door smacked him in the ass saying "oh btw I extorted Ukraine govt to fire the prosecutor looking into a business for corruption which my kid was on the board of directors or they wouldnt get aid"?

>Biden didnt admit to it until 2018.
You are severely uninformed. Severely.

The fact that Biden was the point man for the Administration's efforts to get Shokin fired was never a secret. Fucking hell.

Here's a vid that will help clear things up for you:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N0tUHCpt00

Yes, it's produced by Biden's campaign, but it's unusually logical and thorough for a campaign vid.

Not that I think that other retard was right, but making fun of a statement is not a rebuttal.

shokin was a Russian shill. and Russia had just invaded Ukraine if you don't remember.
buuuuut you do seem to be Russia-apologists for some reason. you do go to EXTREME lengths to protect Russian interests.

There was nothing there that was actually a valid argumentative point. There was the claim that the debt has "ballooned." It was the only thing that would actually be permissible as an argument in a debate, and it is woefully easily to prove false with a few quick google searches.
Hate crimes and racism have gone up? Where's the citation? Cool story bro.
Our allies no longer trust us? Same thing. [Citation needed]

If making somebody's argument look stupid is making fun of them so be it.
It hasn't.
When there's nothing to argue with all you can do is say "lol ok"

Nice try Ivan. Now go fuck yourself.

mexico is actually trying to prevent mexicans from getting into the us, that's a pretty good step.
>who pays for the wall now?
china

>made up
*admitted

>shokin was a Russian shill. and Russia had just invaded Ukraine if you don't remember.
buuuuut you do seem to be Russia-apologists for some reason. you do go to EXTREME lengths to protect Russian interests.
I'm just going to assume you either didn't read my post or that you meant to reply to a different one. Obviously I know that Shokin was a corrupt shill.

husband: What do you want for dinner?
>wife: I was thinking we should eat out
Sure, I was thinking about the new steakhouse, but I'm not sure
>Why not?
I haven't seen what's on their menu
>So we're not going to the steakhouse?
Well, maybe we can go, but I'll have to check their menu first
>Why do you want to know what food they serve?
FIne! We can go to the steakhouse
>But you said you needed to check--
I don't care, let's just go
>But--
It's fine

Trump is acting like a husband who doesn't want to argue with his wife