Christian tards of Cred Forums

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The old gods are real all the ancient texts show the writers and worshipers were dead serious and experienced it. Ancient archaeology is real, and all religions except the Judeo-christian narrative are the revelation of some satanic channeling of the old gods to man. Judeo-Christian answers to creation and salvation are the creator God revealing the truth to an entire nation and then to the whole world with generations of witnesses. Also, what acidemia teaches about evolution is nonsense, research it.

Mormonism should be on here since it's literally based on Christianity

Because if you claim it happened you’re either fucking bonkers or you’re a liar.

Assuming you are OP, you asked "How do you have trust on a book that has been changed to fit political views throughout time?" and you refuse to give any proof of this. The act of belief in any religion is the idea of faith. Through faith in Christ we are saved.

Many pagan historians have recorded Christ as performing miracles.

I don't understand how denominational splits mean anything here? No specific group has edited nor changed the Bible, they're all separated based on different interpretations.

. I'm specifically referring to it's preservation throughout history.

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So my question remains: How can you possibly characterize a personal experience with the living god as an excuse?

I'm not arguing reliability. The question was how can people trust and if the answer is they have felt god's presence for themselves, how can that be characterized as an excuse?

>Also, what acidemia teaches about evolution is nonsense
>acidemia
Yes

>one of the most historically accurate texts we have today
>jesus born of a virgin
>jesus turns water into wine
>jesus feeds 5,000 people with 5 loaves of bread and 2 fish
>jesus dies and comes back to life
>jesus ascends into fucking heaven

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...so what does that have to do with the fact that historicity doesn't validate supernatural claims?

>Many pagan historians have recorded Christ as performing miracles.

no they haven't. They've recorded what christians believed.

Mormonism is quite far off from Christianity, really only takes the people of Christianity and turns them into a falsified story by a man in the 1800s whose Golden Tablets "disappeared" into Heaven. Mormons don't believe in the trinity and believe that God was just another man born on another planet and that one day they will get their own planets to rule over.

Since you can't read: as I already stated, it's been preserved excellently for the last 1400-ish years.

how could a person possibly know what they were feeling was the presence of god?

It's more likely they just felt a strong emotional reaction to something and misattributed it.

quora.com/Is-the-Holy-Bible-edited

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You're still arguing reliability. I'm asking you to validate the characterization of a personal experience with god as and "excuse".

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what?

>historically accurate
>preserved excellently
fuck you're bait

*your
fuck

Or of course they could have genuinely believed it was true even if they didn't personally see it.
Or of course they could have believe that their message was important enough to die for even if it wasn't actually the risen god.

See, this is why memes make poor arguments lol

that's mainly talking about translation errors and corrections. There doesn't seem to be any bad intentions with attempting to translate a text from one language to another.

You called experience of god an excuse. It's not.
Can you make a case for why it should be considered and excuse or can you not?

eat my shit and hair

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>>Yeah dude let's all just die claiming this guy was the Christ and rose from the dead just to get our morality out there.

think about it dude, why would the apostles themselves die for their beliefs if it wasn't true and they hadn't seen it?

i don't know what you're talking about all I am saying is people who say they have felt god are mentally ill

>memes make poor arguments

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Yeah dude cause we all just exist for no reason and nothing matters lol.

What if one or two of them claimed to see it and the others believed them?

What if one or more of them knew it wasn't true but felt that the message was important enough to die for?

Think about it, dude. Can you reasonably assert that these are less likely scenarios than a man rising from the dead?

>why would the apostles themselves die for their beliefs
Why do you believe that really happened? Because the talking-snake book said so?

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>people who say they have felt god are mentally ill

Prove it then. Put up or shut up.

I have a question, do you believe in the tooth fairy ?

So we exist to be play things for a vengeful superbeing?

If god is a benevolent omnipotent being why is there evil?

No, the apostle's deaths are not recorded in the Bible as far as I can remember

seeing and feeling things that are not real is a hallucination

hallucination is a symptom of mental illness

>if God real why bad thing happen

Well certainly our actions don't and won't amount to anything once death comes for us

the question theists have never been able to answer

if god is real, why is there evil?

messed up here, the Bible does record the beheading of James.

Pretty much
Yeah why?
Explain

No seriously though, you're 100% right

The only proof of magic book being magic is that magic book says it's magic

>I’ve never seen a million dollars so I refuse to accept that a million dollars exists!

There is evil because the human nature is sin and the whole point of humanity after the garden is that we are naturally separated from God through Adam's sin.

>seeing and feeling things that are not real is a hallucination
>hallucination is a symptom of mental illness

Certainly.

So prove that experiences of god are not real.

Put up or shut up.

why are the priests always depicted as faggots instead of straight?

so god created evil?

What about all the actual miracles confirmed? Cancer healing? People getting out of wheel chairs?

Religion is the main reason you exist today. Without moral guidance in the common person and in leaders the world would be a horrible and violent place. Your leaders would be 10x as corrupt as they are now. You wouldn't have the luxury of asking the origins of anyone's faith in anything. If your genes were even able to make it through the harsh world that would have been without religion, you would surely be killed for being such a faggot OP.

If that's true why don't you kill yourself?

Yes, inadvertently

I'm not the one making extraordinary claims, you can't prove a negative.

The onus of proof is on the party which says something exists.

How could a god do something by accident?

Those are called doctors

I don't there's such thing as evil
Only survival and what actions we do for it

Why do we get punished for something we didn't do?

Inadvertently != accidental, side effect to having life
So doctors in church make people puke tumors and regrow limbs?

because original sin.

we suffer under the curse of humanity and sinful nature from birth,

>side effect to having life

So god was incapable of creating a world without evil?

You’re not, you’re just not being granted as a higher standard. Your nature is to sin meaning you can choose not to. After you accept Jesus your nature changes. You want to not sin etc.

He created the world without evil by putting it into a tree that eventually would die. He instructed Adam and Eve not to eat it.

Because I enjoy the pleasures (a chemical reaction) I encounter and wish to preserve it for future generations
Also still haven't found the truth of human existence

>AKA Accidentally
>Omnipotent

It really takes a lot of faith to not believe in God. I’m so sorry you’re so alone.

Why even make the tree to begin with? Why not just make a perfect world if it is in your power to do so?

More of a side effect than it was accidental b

>The onus of proof is on the party which says something exists.

Wrong.
The burden of proof rests on the person making the claim.
I have made no claim. YOU, on the other hand, have made the categorical claim that experiences of god are not real.

Back that claim up. PROVE it.

>you can't prove a negative.

Rookie mistake. Of course you can prove a negative. Eg> There are no married bachelors. The absence of any married bachelors is proved by the mutually exclusive terms.

You actually can't kill yourself. You're stuck here until you have matured enough to not need a physical existence.

This plane is a jail.

So evil could die. The universe existed long before this tiny planet. It’ll exist long after.

>He created the world without evil by putting it into a tree that eventually would die.
Im assuming God was once both evil and good?

No, evil is an action that fails to meet the standard of goodness, humans as imperfect beings will not always meet God's standards of goodness. It's not an accident that evil exists, God allows evil to exist in order to show what an imperfect world is like.

You made the claim that a supernatural being caused you to feel something.

What fucking bs is spewing from your head to your keyboard that makes you type that?

You seem to assume a lot. You should stop that. Makes you look really stupid.

No, God has always been good. see for a better definition of evil.

>a lot of faith
No it doesn't
It takes more faith to believe in something I can't prove

Plenty of other people have seen 1mil, there are pictures of it online, thousands of people posess it currently, and they can easily prove it. No one has ever proved they have seen god, talked to god, or that god exists. They are all just claims

>Please don't bring "I felt God's presence" as an excuse.
No you claimed we can’t bring that up. You’re really bad at this.

So god, who made the universe, made evil so he could destroy it by putting it into a tree that could be eaten by other beings he made to eat it?

If he is god he knew what would happen if he made the tree and he knew it would not destroy evil but actually spread evil to the world which he also created.

So he willingly made and spread evil to the world.

Why would he do that?

Yeah but dollars do exist
All I have to do is add

see

Plenty of people experience miracles and feel Gods presence in measurable ways. We have proof you’re unwilling to look at. You can’t just make up rules to win an argument.

I'm not that user.

But your subjective emotional experience means nothing in an objective discussion.

Or you can just take DMT
Same shit

So god allows evil because he wishes it to exist to spite humanity, which he created?

>that could be eaten
No he said it was death to eat it. I command you not to eat a Tide pod or you’ll die.

Emotions exist. You’re denying emotions. You’re literally denying half of human existence to attempt to explain something away. Why?

God doesn't wish to spite humanity, He wishes to show us what a world of evil is like so that we can experience imperfectness.

Your premise is very flawed. To an extreme amount.

>You made the claim that a supernatural being caused you to feel something.

Nope.
I said that you can't call someone's personal experience an excuse.

YOU made the claim that, that experience was a hallucination. So can you validate that claim or can you not? (protip: you cannot)

That was strike 1.

Try again.

So god created humans to suffer evil?

>at a bar one night
>invite some random dude to hang out with me and my friends
>i start talking about why i think all religions are bullshit
>he asks if he can write some of this down to think about while he isnt drunk
>lmao go for it bud
>he asks if he can tell me why he believed
>lmao go for it bud
>i literally talked to jesus
>hahahah what drug were you on? shrooms? dmt?
>nah cocaine
>i just laugh and tell him i have to go to the bathroom
>never show up again

Claiming that you've heard god isn't proof. That's the thing, there has been no measurable, "scientific" proof that a god exists.
>We have proof you’re unwilling to look at.
Show it to me. I'm agnostic, so I would genuinely love to see irrefutable proof that god exists, and that he can, and has, talked to us humans.

Can you explain why god will allow this
He is omnipotent he could has just made a memory in us with evil instead of a whole planet to live on
And what the hell (kek) is heaven supposed to be like?

>air doesn’t exist because I can’t see it
>but I feel it on my skin
>we can’t use feelings to describe air you must prove it exists
>here I’ll add some smoke
>that’s cheating, you can’t see the air

This is how you sound. I can feel God. It’s very real. I’m not psychotic. I only wish you could experience the awesomeness.

To teach you how to show forgiveness. Eternity is a long time.

How do you know you're experiencing god and not just an altered state of consciousness? What tools do you use to make that distinction?

You can totally see air man. All it takes is a microscope.

Why are you assuming that christians use logic at all?

There's no point in trying to understand people who don't use critical thinking skills. They'll believe whatever their rich paedophile priests tell them.

>I can feel God
>I

Air. You can’t see it but you can feel it moving on your skin. The same way we fell God’s presences. It’s a very simple concept.

>Christian tards of Cred Forums
smarter than you but ok lol
>How do you have trust on a book that has been changed to fit political views throughout time?
The book has never been changed and if it has the changes were very small and irrelevant, i don't agree with the premise.

If you're looking for proof have a read here at the greek:
hs-augsburg.de/~harsch/graeca/Chronologia/S_post01/NT/nte_kd00.html
and latin:
hs-augsburg.de/~harsch/Chronologia/Lspost04/Hieronymus/hie_vv00.html

I know you're a retard and won't even be able to read these but i might as well prove you wrong instead of just calling you a dumbass.
>Please don't bring "I felt God's presence" as an excuse.
ok retard

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How do you know you feel god? How do you know that those feelings you attribute to god, aren't from a different source? Indigestion, maybe?

Seeing God is easier.

Said who, you?
I love hear that from god directly.
Not from a questionable source

lenstore.co.uk/eyecare/sensory-deprivation-hallucinations

How do you know what the color blue looks like? How to you know what apples taste like? Experience.

So god, who could have created a world without suffering, created suffering so people would forgive him for creating suffering?

Then all you have to do is ask God directly instead of Cred Forums.

>thinking pastors are rich

as the son of a pastor I wish pastors were as rich as atheists claim they were.

if you really want to go for this one talk about prosperity preaching faggots like Joel Osteen and other retard "ministers" who preach nothing but happiness and wealth.

Man creates suffering. God gave us the planet. It’s our choices of what we allow.

>Joel Osteen
He didn’t let his congregation into the church during the flood. There’s a special place in hell for that man.

He doesn't answer me because he's not real

Well no, its not. I can look into a microscope and see air. There is no microscope to show god.

What is more likely that a god chooses some people to show himself to but not others or that some people misinterpret feelings?

I wish hell upon no one, but there are a few, like Osteen, who are obviously going there.

Because you don’t believe him to be real. He’s not going to answer you if you’re going to dismiss him. If all I did was dismiss you, would you talk to me?

How do you know you're experiencing god and not just an altered state of consciousness? What tools do you use to make that distinction?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases
My local protestant church force people into paying $100 per week

But god created man, therefore he could have created man without suffering.

The fact that suffering exists is proof that a benevolent god does not.

And if god is not benevolent why worship him?

How do you know you feel god? There's no way to prove to yourself that those feelings are god, it's possible that it's something like placebo.

Oh same, I hope he repents. He needs to buy those people new homes with his billions.

How to you know what sugar tastes like? How do you know that taste isn’t an altered state of consciousness?

Here you go

That is all

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Not Cath so the sexual abuse cases are as disturbing to me as they are to you.

How does the church force people to donate?

G8 b8 m8

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Do you blame God for someone shooting someone else? Why do you hate freedom? Wouldn’t it be better to be free and everyone get along?

he's not wrong, check the sources you fucking moron

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That right there is the trap
"Oh well you can't talk to god sucks to be you come on over to a certified god interpreter and its not like im going to mix my views in it since you now have complete trust over me"

40 people say the same thing over 1600 years and you still don’t believe it?

Opiate of the masses

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I blame god for nothing as I do not believe he exists.

But if I were to presuppose the existence of an entity that handcrafted humanity then yes I would blame him for one man shooting another.

If he is omnipotent and benevolent he would have stopped it.

Don’t trust me. Ask God to show himself and expect it. Don’t be so dismissive. Take a chance, get your hopes up. You have nothing to lose but your pride and arrogance.

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christ loving cunts will die and rot the same as the rest of us animals.

can’t imagine needing an imaginary friend to make me feel important.

This doesnt deserve a response. You get no rebuttal and another pic.

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A pain reliever

By examining it with other senses
Or analyzing it's properties

You should have stopped every school school shooting you monster! How dare you exist and not stop every bullet from killing someone else?!?

if nothing happens when we die and nothing matters from your perspective why is it wrong to be a Christian?

I just googled two of those sources and they are complete garbage

A very long time ago smart people realized that you could get stupid people to do dangerous things for you if you told a good enough story.

This is the basis of all religion, smart people tricking stupid people into doing dangerous things.

“I don’t know how you can believe in a God who wants to condemn most of the planet to a fiery hell,” he said. “What type of loving, sensitive, omnipresent, omnipotent being wants to condemn his beautiful creation to a fiery hell at the end of all this?”

“Religion can be a crutch, it can be something that people have to have to make themselves feel better,” Rodgers continued. “Because it’s set up binary, it’s us and them, saved and unsaved, heaven and hell, it’s enlightened and heathen, it’s holy and righteous … that makes a lot of people feel better about themselves.”

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Because I am not a god?

I know what apples taste like because I've taken an apple, bitten it, and experienced it's flavors. If i suddenly felt apple flavor on my tongue, I wouldn't think that there's some ethereal apple up there telling me to eat it, I'd think i'm having a stroke.
From both options, it's much more likely that it's a stroke and not a god apple, so why should your feeling be caused not by something down to earth and very common, but to something that hasn't been proven to exist?

He’s literally described as omnipotent and all powerful, so yes this exactly

I don’t shave
I don’t curse
I don’t gossip
I hate nfl
Lobster is disgusting
As is pork
I’m allergic to polyester and require cotton clothing
I steer very clear of my wife when she’s menstruationing as well, women are horrible during time of the month.

>Ask God to show himself and expect it.
Thanks for the loop

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Pretty much this

Correct. A placebo at that.

>How to you know what sugar tastes like?

This is not an analogous question. And analogous que"stion would be "How do you know you're experiencing sugar" and the answer to that would be that based on external data, i have sufficient reason to believe that the thing i am tasting is sugar.

What external data do you have which would allow you to determine that your experiencing god and not an altered brain state which has no real world presence?
What tools do you use to make that distinction?

Because I’ve tasted and seen Gods presence. It’s exactly the same call and response. If you don’t eat meat because it’s murder don’t assume that I’ll even care.

Thanks based godtard and his theory
We have come a long way

You are definitely gonna be allowed through those pearly gates then, user. Keep on being you bud! You are doing great! So proud of you.

aren't we all, more or less, mutants? we are not the perfect form, probably, and we have varying genetic defects, all of us. everyone gets thousands of "cancers" a day but the immune system fixes it. it's those who develop major cancers that end up dying and if you consider that cancerous growth is natural, then it's very rare to actually even have those extreme issues with it.

what i'm getting at is that you have no place or even way to JUDGE the value of anyone. i'm trying to get to the argument that "benevolence" is in the eye of the beholder. IF you expect god to be "benevolent"--a requirement only certain western religions have--then maybe you can imagine that the plan it has for everyone is just right because it's not about "that baby could have grown up to be the next hitler" but something far more complicated.

i believe in god. i don't believe in free will. i believe we live in a deterministic system that is akin to a recording because it has to run the way it has to run. that's why i believe in god because there would be no purpose for a recording unless there was a better way to appreciate it than idiots who think they're controlling themselves and have extremely limited perception and comprehension of it.

Oh so you're attempting to demonstrate that there exists a god which is indicated by the repeating patterns we see in various religions around the world.

That's another thing why did god create hell?

Christians are not under the Old Covenant laws of the Old Testament. We follow the laws as instructed by Christ that are sealed in his blood under the New Covenant.

The Bible
The experiences
The miracles
Him talking to me

But hey you don’t want to admit any of this as proponent evidence and merely choc it up to empirical.

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Punishment for Satan first and sinners after.

>Ask God to show himself and expect it.

Done it. Legitimately.

Still nothing. Now tell me that i must have done it wrong so that you can protect your belief from counterexamples.

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No, no.

"Aliens"

>Because I’ve tasted and seen Gods presence.
No you havent, you've tasted and seen the feelings you call "god's presence". There's no solid reasoning to believe the cause to be god. When I taste an apple, I can prove that I'm eating an apple, and show others the core. Can't do that with god's presence

lol it was a moot list.
For the devil and his followers. If you don’t follow Satan you’ll be fine. Most of you won’t be going to hell.

If there is no free will what is the point of living? Can there even be morality without free will?
Doesn't suicide pretty much prove that free will exists?

Why did he create satan just to punish him?

Its not about you. Stop being so selfish.

No not all Christians. But way to go around and spread misinformation about your own religion I guess.

In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony god's blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence.'

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>trying to disprove God by saying he won't show himself to someone who is actively trying to disprove Him

>Doesn't suicide pretty much prove that free will exists?
Based and redpilled

He created Lucifer to be the praise leader of heaven. Lucifer chose to sin.

/thread

>The Bible

How is the bible external data showing that your experience of god is real? IS the koran external data showing that the muslim's experience of allah is real?

>The miracles

How are unexplained and generally unverified events data which allow you to differentiate between a real experience and a figment of your imagination?

>Him talking to me
The experiences

Well these are CERTAINLY not external data. These are the experiences you're attempting to validate. ...

>In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony god's blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence.'
Based
You're ugly though

What Christians are under the Old Covenant laws?

Didn't he know that lucifer would chose to sin?

lol are you the same guy who suggested that i ask god?

I feel tired. I’m going to sleep now.

Nope. This is the weakness of assumptions.

1) i'm not trying to disprove god. Never have been.
2) there was a time in my life when i genuinely, desperately asked for god to enter my life

Still nothing.

All these questions... why not have a little faith, user? Just come join us and listen to his word every week, drink the wine, eat the crackers and most importantly, donate money. All will be answered after you die.

Ikr
God is supposed to be all knowing yet he let it happen
Also wouldn't that mean our lives are already decided since god knows how it's going to end
Meaning me being an Anti-god was his plan all along

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all you atheists can think about is money. Wow dude, pastors have to get paid as that's their job, can't believe these men who have paid tens of thousands of dollars for college and seminary have to be paid.

>All will be answered after you die.
I'll rather masterbate to death

Predestined for hell lol.

Calvin was right.

also congratulations of figuring out predestination.

Then you will be enlightened.

If you donate..

>their job
You said it's there job $
I wouldn't have a problem if it's non-profit

There is absolutely no need for pastors at all, so no they don't need to get paid they're just leeching off the economy.

on* alright I'm making spelling errors, time to head out. Good night all and God bless.

>If you donate..

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>the pastor need some money guys!! Come on

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How else are pastor's supposed to survive? It's their career.

So it all means nothing

You guys need to donate so I can buy a car and feed my kids!

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This guy gets it

Depends on how you look at it. if you think you're going to hell, you probably are.

there's always time to change of course.

I agree but no pastor needs a personal car from the donators money
What goes to church stays in the church
WE

Obviously not talking about megachurches, I already mentioned my disdain for Osteen and prosperity preachers,

You dont understand how the church handles its finances I'm guessing

>there's always time to change of course
I can't
It's written in stone
Same goes for you
At this point we don't even have identities

You do realize the donations fund the church, and part of funding the church is paying the employees, who are then free to purchase whatever they need with their pay?

Literally am the son of a pastor but okay lol.

If that's what you think bro.

>employees
Thanks for not sugarcoating it
>need
Sure

You think that the Vatican isn't paying priests and pastors in every parish? You think they pay all the bills with donations to that specific church? It's a ginormous international business that megachurches are deeply involved in.

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>Christian tards of Cred Forums
>How do you have trust on a book that has been changed to fit political views throughout time?
"Book". LOL.
Catholic and Orthodox here are leaving y'all Prots to this.

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Its not what we think
Its what God thinks
Everything has been decided

I would probably kill myself if i thought this

Catholics and megachurches are not related besides in matters of herticalness and I have no interest in what the Vatican is doing because I'm not Catholic lol.

>Book
Quite literally it is

Yeah but you can't
You're incapable of doing it

It's the same as saying someone works at a non-profit. There's much more than just a pastor running a church. There's youth pastors, choir directors (God forbid it) but sometimes worship bands. And then on the back end are people in charge of maintenance or childcare staff.

Then you are stupid or just retarded.

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>Catholics and megachurches are not related
Woah there
You're great at dodging bullets
Man it's always great to be picky towards interpretations

well yea this physical plan is a prison and i'm stuck here until my time is up

Presby here, I've been going at this for quite a while.

Thanks for providing a new religion for tards to believe in

Catholics, though heretics, are not on the same tier of fagotry as mega church pastors who spend their funds on private jets and refuse to preach the Bible. Sorry.

What a stupid fucking argument. Completely down with seeing evidence of God, of course, and open minded to a true discussion, but this is troll level shit.

Air invisibl??? no wae....

Ok so I am
Im just going to do what god wants and masterbate

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Don't get how I said anything wrong in that, unless you're asigning the term megachurch to Catholics which I wouldn't do mainly because of their heavy doctrinal differences,

Because I know for a fact the devil exists.
That's really the reason I believe in God.

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No need for all of that
The greatest idea ever done was the printing press remember
Just keep printing those bibles

How the hell would this be chocked up to empirical? Do you know the definition of the word?

No, nobody is going to accept this as proponent 'evidence'.

How can you refute another god's existence if they say this same shit to you, then?

there is no single god, there are a lot of gods and you broke the rules by fucking around and putting people on a planet now your sentence is to live as all of those people its gonna take a really long time

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Just pointing how out the many interpretations that exist
Got to pick the one the benefits the most $

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Wtf is this
>no single god
>breaks the rules of Christianity

>breaking rules of the omnipotent script
How?

If you're looking at direct benefit I would probably point in the direction of megachurch pastors as their comparisons in the Catholic church, priests, are usually less focused on material gain. Though I have heard rumors that their is a bit of a faith crisis in the Cath church atm.

Daily reminder that god created everything including evil
It's part of him

So are protestants
Just print bibles already

You are a being of immense spiritual power, you can literally create worlds just by thinking about it. You got bored and created sentient life, this is a crime. You are now imprisoned in the life you created forced to experience the suffering in the hope you will learn something and not do it again.

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So you're saying im god

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one of many, and not really a god just something so powerful you can only conceive of it as a god

Ok I thought this was a Christian thread not a dmt thread
Which I also believe thise who take dmt are delusional

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He got you there faggot op

>same patters
>Half of humanity denies
>Half accept

Its the scientific method

Humanity is just still too stupid for it

He keeps coming back time after time

Contempory Jesus/horus what ever the fuck you want ti call him is born but it and us just dont know it has happened for all we know its that shitty neighbor you live near it might be you nanna or even the bum on the street its real buddy

Humanity doesnt deserve to be watched and cared for by a god because we think were so grown up we can take care of our selves

You can call it anything you want christianity/catholisism/hinduism/ being a budist ir even an atheist its all the same its just people looking for something that isnt there anymore but we still expect it to help us no matter how shitty we are

Just like a spoiled kid wanting mcdonalds even if a hot very nutritous meal is infront if them

We dont deserve help from a creator if we dont appreciate what he has givin us already

Take for instance space travel its fine that it will happen but to do so with intent of making money with greed being the fuel meaning that its not right to do

We can say the same thing about money honestly its there physically but once the government that produces the money breaks all that actually matters is the gold we all think is in the banks and deposits

>Is the gold really there?
>government man says it is
>must continue using this made up currency to help keep gold in play

But in reality just like god we hope its there and would be there when we need it

Not a believer at all. Atheist for sure. But the idea that the bible was changed to fit political views is a lacking premise when looking at historical renditions and what brought about any specific translation. It's a well written mythology.

Go back to r/atheism

That's not op
>Humanity is just still too stupid for it
Then please stop spreading it like aids until we are ready

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You have no way of knowing if there is another species out there that considers us how we would consider ants. And it's quite ignorant to assume it couldn't exist.

Mega church's are prodistant and have nothing to do with the Vatican.

Are you stupid? That guy clearly forgot to tag OP in it dumb shit

If you knew how to determin shit on your own you would understand that he is highlighting that respons so OP can see for himself and later read the rest of the post

You seriously kill yourself if you think what you just did was a power move and important

You are passing for a retarded person KYS please and end your mortal suffering

Jesus fuck Henry how stupid can you be? Kill yourself faggot

This thread = full of Jesus slavebois

Perhaps but then we shouldn't put effort into caring until they manifest themselves

I bet you posted that picture because you currently feel like that because of something that wouldnt exist if the internet wasnt invented

Youre shit buddy go fuck your mother
>shes dead?
Fuck her
>she has cancer?
Fuck her
>you have no mom?
Fuck your dad
>dada dead?
Fuck your dad

Weird image.
Even if you believe everything in the Bible is untrue, they're certainly not in the form of fairy tales.
The Bible was written in two different languages, Hebrew and Greek, unless you really want to argue that the few passages in Aramaic (which is closely related to Hebrew) count as a third language. Similar with the three continents thing. I guess that'd be Africa, Asia, and Europe. Modern Biblical scholars doubt that large numbers of Hebrews were ever held captive in Egypt, however, so you can probably scratch Africa. And while it's true that the earliest parts of the earliest books of the Bible date to the Bronze Age (especially if you mean the stories in oral circulation, as opposed to in writing), the Torah probably reached its final written form later than 700 B.C., and the books of the New Testament were all written by the middle of the 2nd century A.D. at the latest. So more like 850 years.

Cool meme image, though. Totally doesn't display a profound ignorance.

Based
Using the lords name in vain lol

Unless you are one and you are stuck here until you figure that out.

There are they are called ants

Ants can topple human civilization in an instant budy quit living in the current sociatal norms and understand whats around you in reality faggot

>I bet you posted that picture because you currently feel like that because of something that wouldnt exist if the internet wasnt invented
Imagine being this butthurt over a meme

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No they can't
There too stupid
We can burn them all before they even know

>you figure that out.
We can't

Thread just went from Christiansfags to dmtfags

Fun fact: A lot of secular-minded scientists at the time rejected the big bang theory because it seemed too similar to them to the creation ex nihilo described in Genesis. Many cosmologists of the time preferred various steady-state theories of the universe that posited that it had always just kinda been there, hangin' out.

why not?

Buddy if ants read and write in their own language they would consider you too stupid to live

>its they're, they are
>not there as in over there fuck face

We cant burn them all some ant species have a select group to be use as a shield to protect from shit like that

Imagine being this gay calling gay fantasies a meme

Wish I knew that answer too?
Perhaps you can help me on the why

youtu.be/A042J0IDQK4
Ok Anttard

Its because your not done being punished.

Maybe youre an ant

Youre just too stupid to realize

Imagine not feeling humor
youtu.be/21_YJ2uZBL0

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Is this you?

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From what?
How did you came to that conclusion?

>Is this you?
you have a problem with the Don?

The what now

I get humor i just dont understand you love towards twinks and jesus

>they are not twink they are burly muscular men

Stop being gay for a bit online and go act out your netflix's Gay Jesus portrails with your pastor

Its the only thing that makes sense. Otherwise sentient life is just a failed evolutionary path.

Inb4
>i dont believein religon
>i dont habe a Pastor

Then why are you here faggot

It's not gay its it's manly
God approves since we are after all shaped in his image

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Imagine being a grown adult and believing this. Godtards really should not be allowed to vote.

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>Its the only thing that makes sense. Otherwise sentient life is just a failed evolutionary path.
You fucking lost me there
Fag and tardpilled
Please elaborate on your conclusion

There is only one truth, and Jesus preached it, Buddha (Siddhartha Gautama) preached it, Confucius and Lao Tze preached it

Actually if woking out gets you a body like that it isnt allowed its a sin to be vain dumb shit

Do you know the show always sunny within a shitty place? Yeah the one with the gay religous guy ronald mcdonald

Stop being gay

The only thing that isnt a sin is dying without doing anything negative

Yes sloth and so on but is not doing anything at alll

Right, but we cant hate them or wish ill upon people like that be they know nit od what they talk about

will you summarize it for us?

You're just jealous and closeted
This is peak mannhood
You know most anti gays are actually the biggest faggots around
So quit being closeted

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Sentience is a disease that lets humans destroy the environment that created them. We are separated from nature by self awareness.

You're not entirely wrong but far from the truth
We're all achieving the same goal but have not uncovered the full truth

Im not closeted faggot ive raped men in the name of god youre replying to the biggest faggot here homo

Stop being a faggot and love everyone

>humans destroy
Wtf mate I planted a tree the other day
Also nature itself destroys itself

Youre almost there little one just drop some stuff and figure out the other stuff

I have hope in you little one

sentience has nothing to do with self-awareness. try looking up what they mean first.

>raped men in the name of god
Thanks for coming out
Keep being closeted while I post more Billy's

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The only truth is Love, as cliched and simple as that, but one does not see whats in front of him, that why buddha called the 6 senses the "thiefs", the ones who are prepared to ssee will see. The truth is always in front of us, we just have to pay attention

>Also nature itself destroys itself

No other animal in the history of the planet has affected the natural environment in the way humanity has.

All it will take is a nuclear war to end all life on the planet for millenia.

>raped men
Imagine comparing pictures to actual butt sex

That's because humans are the top predators
Also look up snakeheads

>No other animal in the history of the planet has affected the natural environment in the way humanity has
That’s a load. Any species will breed until the food runs out. We’re doing what comes naturally not just for us but every other species. And given that life has been around for so long, it would have happened countless times.

Well the thread is about the die
Here's a song to say goodbye
Thanks Christtards for the discussion
youtu.be/qQzdAsjWGPg

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Hello my children youre all wrong thats why i tested the first with hunger to determin if you shall live eternaly but alas you all chose to be hungry and greedy

There is no way to recover from it as every new generation is brought into the world it is stained by the wretchedness of human thoughts and actions

There can be no utopia where i exist if humanity persist the way it is

That is why i have unleashed a new entity recently into your world it is hungry just as you are and wont stop till its full just lime humanity dont be quick to cast me aside and care for the future of your children it must be done so that the next generation can live in peace

You're right there's all kinds of skyscrapers in the fossil record...