What's your excuse?

my excuse is I'm not a beta faggot who is afraid to relish the products of murder. Eat up.

soy boy detected

Do you think that other species would have shown any sympathies to humans were we not at the top of the food chain?

Guess what : no. They'd eat you alive, piece by piece.

savor the flavor, any hog would be honored to stuff my throat

Medical prescription to specifically eat meat. Red meat preferably.

And fuck off, it's tasty.
It's not like I eat exclusevely meat.

Imagine being a faggot

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hedonistic calculus isn't morality. fuck off

If it was economically viable I would gladly rear my own livestock and slaughter them myself.

Humans hunt animals, and animals hunt each other. It's the circle of life. The majority of the people that are vegan/vegetarian are not self sufficient, and are unable to hunt/skin or farm.

Vegetarians are basically the cucks of the food world. Abstaining, under the facade they're making another creature happy. Can't obtain their own food and can't pleasure their own wives. So they rely on people that can.

My country doesn't have factory farming

why not?

Go full carnivore diet you fag.
The only things acceptable aside from meat is eggs and milk because they too are animal products.

Survival of the fittest. Other animals have cruel ways when preparing their lunch so humans aren't the only assholes in the animal kingdom.

Because I like having other vitamins and minerals and have my body work properly?
Also, salad is tasty as shit.
I just like eating. Meat, salad, you name it.

I dont have to explain myself to a faggot

You don't need those.
Shit like vitamin C is only really used to process pleb-tier fuel like carbohydrates.

Anyway, tbh I wouldn't go full carnivore myself either.. maybe just for a month or something for lulz but at least cutting out as much carbs as you can (bread, pasta, drinks with sugar, fruits etc) is very good for you.

I mean... it has to be this.

the problem isnt eating meat, its how the animals are treated

chickens don't understand "cruelty" they're not that intelligent. they only have a reptilian brain. it has no sense of caring for others or family or children.

Yes, actually it is. You're not crushing a pig's hopes and dreams when you keep it in a muddy pen and give it all the food it can eat.

Yeah, how about this then.
I like not having to spend a full hour on the shitter trying to push a litteral brick through my ass and spend another 3 days constipated like I'm the Beast Titan from Attack on Titan.

And I know you are referencing keto diets and they do work depending on your body, but why would you stop eating salad altoghether? Such a waste of good ass food.

Just be careful. the medical industry doesn't know what to do with a body running the way yours does. They can prescribe you shit that works differently in your body.

apply this logic to the severely mentally disabled..

>now that's good eats

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tbh I don't mind a salad but it just doesn't feel that nutritional.. I mean, you do realize our digestive system can't actually deal with shit like grass or leaves right? There's a reason fucking cows spend all day chewing, processing, regurgitating and re-chewing that shit.

Deliciousness

I'd be glad to user

Needs more cruelty tho?

>If you can make vegetables less gay, let me know.

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>it has no sense of caring for others or family or children.

Chickens literally sit on their eggs to keep them warm... u fucking daft m8?

Tastes good but I always buy free range grass fed shit from reputable ranchers so I don't really feel guilty at all

And you do realize that applies only to leaves right? We have a slew of other stuff in the world to eat aside from just animals.

Plus, you are just plain wrong. Go see the nutritional values of stuff before spewing shit you thought of from the top of your head.
We don't digest plant cells, but everything else in them is fair game.

I just know that if I can't kill an animal I'm not going to eat it. I'm not going to pay some corporation to do it for me.

stay mad meat fag

Do competitive strongman and plant based protein isn’t as effective as meat you don’t get full proteins so you only use about 60% of the protein in plants where you use 80% in meat and on top of that there’s nutrients I need in meat like creatine and other similar things which just aren’t as abundant in plants as much as they are in meat

Excuse?
I don't need an excuse, I have reasons, first and foremost, we're designed over the course of millions of years to be able to catch and digest meat.
Secondly, I enjoy the taste and texture because nature has seen fit to make me find meat appetizing, did you eveer wonder why vegetarians and vegans want bacon, sausages, mince etc to look, smell and taste like the real thing? Because your body craves a food it needs.
Thirdly, I hunt, I am quite comfortable finding, tracking, shooting, skinning and butchering what is up until the time I take my shot an organic, free range, naturally fed and wild prey animal. We are the pinnacle of predators in Earth's history, I am true to my nature, I don't derive pleasure from the kill, but from the satisfaction of delivering food onto my table for my family and the pleasure of eating the animal's flesh.
Lastly and by no means most importantly, I live
in a free country where what I do is not considered a crime, I choose to hunt, I honour the animal with a quick and painless death, something it would never know otherwise in the wild and I use the whole of the animal.
As for farmed food, I eat it, I do not feel the same way about it than I do the meat I collect, but then it's always about money in any business isn't it.

Vegans think that their organic foods from far flung shores are somehow less damaging to wildlife, the fact is and feel free to check that the moment that a faddy "superfood" is discovered, the west then exploits the place where the foodstuff originates from and turns it into a cash-crop, one that the locals who have depended on for generations can no longer afford, the local farmers do almost anything to expand by cutting down wildlands to cultivate (usually by burning) they then use measures to eradicate vast numbers of smaller animals that would normally eat this crop.
Then these eco-heroes tell everyone what great people they are.

Go fuck yourself or be true to your nature.

This.

Holy shit dude you said it.

I am true to my nature also.

Not really vegan or vegetarian, but plantations are way more efficient at producing food per quare mile than animal production. Also less water involved. And stuff is kinda getting ridiculous if we consider vertical plantations.

So if anything, the population turning a bit more vegan or vegetarian would solvea lot of problems like global warming, water scarcity and the general lack of land.

>2020
>not vegan
pffft

I kill my own food because I'm a god damn American. Also who the fuck eats Turkeys for breakfast?

>butmuh hamburger and chiken nuggets taste too good.

at a bare minimum vegetarian

> It tastes good
> As someone who has actually been around farms and slaughterhouses instead of just crying over bullshit posted online, I don't fall for peta propaganda

Life is cruel. Why should my consumption habits be any different?

"i don't care".

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This is my argument. Until people start raising their own gardens and chickens, factory farms have to be a thing to feed the 350-something million people in the US alone.

>inb4 just eat plants lol
no

In this moment i am euphoric.
Not because of your lack of ecological awareness but at the sheer unadultered pure massive size of my ego.

i bet they would taste even better if the cages were even smaller. maybe even hobble them so muscle development is minimal, would be even more juicy and delicious.

>not really i just dont fucking care.

chickens are assholes

Oh but yes it is.

i like the thought of them being killed: the fear.

I have no issue with fags, you sound like a bigot.

Since you faggots love socialism so much, legislate to prevent extreme forms of factory farming and cruelty.

Stop making it "all or nothing". I didn't ask to be born but here I am and I feel much better eating meat than not, so fuck off

>conflation
kindly fuck off, yeah?

You're right. Needs more cruelty.

This is a bullshit thread. You are using the worst of the very worst examples. If we did that with human beings every single person would be worse than Hitler or Jeffrey Dahmer. 99% of chickens are treated very humanely. Kys

Probably some soiboy of femicunt is OP.

I get my eggs from my coop, and I’m not all preachy about it. Learn how to work, faggot.

Don’ need an excuse, you vegan retard. Meat tastes fucking amazing and to give it up because a bunch of whiny cucks demands it is stupid.

> be at top of food cain
> newfag posts most of a complete breakfast

Don't need no excuse -
Bacon is aweaome.

No you are not designed, we are way more design to digest veggies than meat.

About the taste I agree with you, although people should be conscious about what they are eating, it is not an object. I love all animals, I don't take it easy. In fact, i like animals more than people because animals are genuine about their actions, that not meaning I don't like people. And by the way, your body does not crave the food it needs, you need muuuuch less than what we eat on average. Unless being a 200kg American is some sort of body triumph. Your body craves much more than what it needs, and nowadays it gets it in huge chunks.

Regarding the hierarchy and being the top of the chain - honestly asking - why did we stop with slavery? were the whites not on top? they could easily continue doing so. We could even use them to produce meat since human flesh is so much better. Why don't we eat each other? Why don't we fuck animals legally? We are on top and it would serve some people's needs. Moreover, you are just on top due to intelligence, not power. The same intelligence that told you that perhaps slavery, animal fucking or bull fighting is not right. And all animals eat each other, sure but they need to, unlike you. Vegans are statistically much healthier than the average person, be that from being more conscious about what they eat or not. The point still stands. Furthermore, just because a monkey shits on a room doesn't mean you will.

About the faddy superfood like avocados you are totally right. But also take into account that this is recent. The meat industry has had hundreds of years to evolve, you don't believe that in 200 years we will produce avocados with hidroculture or w/e with less impact on the environment that the meat industry ever will? Of course it will unless we are able to mass produce meat in vitro. You think if that if we still produced meat out in the open for those mcnuggets, the land wouldn't be totally fkd with billions of chicken?

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I am proud you hunt and all of that, that's great I mean it. I am just thoroughly against mass production of meat. It is hard for me to quit meat because I too come a from "village" background so I decided to cut on all the meat when I don't know it's origins. More in the lines of: "I wouldn't mind being the cow that my grandma had because it was treated with respect and kindness and at end might as well serve for something"

Finally, people generalize the vegan to be some kind of angry feminist about food. I have a some vegan friends and literally none are like that. I don't understand the hate when people should be striving to understand the other part. No one is depriving me of continuing to eat my meat and I am interested in listening to them to understand, not to reply. Replying won't get me anywhere else than where I was before.

its good

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Same reason I drive a v8 mustang instead of bicycle to work.

I can and you cant control me.

>what's your excuse?
I cnow its wort it but i cant afford to it it every day

How would salt make you less alkaline?

It's not bat.

Because it's an acid? I got low stomach acid before from eating too many veggies and green powder shakes. Eating a bag of salt fixed it.

its an animal who cares?

Chickens are almost as dumb as jews, why do I care if they suffer?

my excuse is that the population isnt capable of farming 30000 acres of farmland locally every time you want organic fag meat, its a part of life get over autist.

There are quite a few falsehoods here.

Nigga, are you saying that other animals have comparable intelligence to humans? That they have the exact same ability to reason as us? That all(note: all) animals have the ability to even recognize themselves?

A human slave is not worth the same as a cow slave, their intelligence is not on the same level. We don't eat human flesh because we, like most animals, are hard-wired against eating members of their own species and the fact that you can contract kuru.

The mass production of meat is fine. Sure it sucks for the animals but they're going to be eaten anyway so who gives a shit. respecting each and every individual animal that you mac on is for sentimental fags who need to realize that nature doesn't give a fucking shit.

Your arguement is emotional.
News flash: animal eaters have strong emotions toward their food, esp. bacon.

^

Weird flex but OK

cant wait for sunday

God damn i hate fucking vegans. I get it, i try to eat a wide array of fruits, nuts, and vegetables. But i also eat meat. I LOVE fish and steak, the thing is, it's not that meat is bad and blah blah murder reeee- it's the fact that we do not kill humanely and we abuse the animals. Yes meat prices will go up if we actually treated our live stock better, but at the end of the day, people just don't want to pay the price.

But also, fuck vegans.

>humane
posting animal

it is though

I enjoy more the fact that animals have suffered that the food itself

meat doesnt require cruelty, its impossible to be cruel to an animal

Totally worth it

I live in a country where giant industrial farming isn't a thing
also Im not a little bitch

it's true. i'm on my last philosophy course for a bachelor's and one of them was about "environmental ethics". at some point, it had to come up about whether animals are really like us and whether we should care about their feelings.

the human brain has four major parts. at the bottom is the reptilian brain. viewed from the side, facing to your left, it resembles the shape of florida; a flat pan with a reaching stem to the spinal cord. it is not very intelligent. it is nothing but reactionary and acts on base urges. above that is the good shit, the mammalian brain. this is the part that understands love for others; society and children and also where the memory center and emotional centers are. at the top is the primate brain. it is more intelligent and can use tools and form strategy. finally, humans are the most advanced due to the prefrontal cortex, which is there for decision making and being a "good person". the classic case of phinneas gage has come up a bunch of times in my courses and what happened was that he had a rod shoot up through his head and take out the prefrontal cortex. he lived and kept working, but his personality changed to that of an asshole, a sociopath who didn't care about others.

that part isn't even properly formed by 18, when we are "adults". it's more like 24.

what does a fucking cow have? a little confusion and fear as you kill it. a chicken? nothing but "i want not this".

>caring about cruelty to animals
Being a carnivore ain’t humane but then again, animals ain’t fuckin human so I don’t give a shit. You know what I had for supper? Rib tips and bacon-wrapped sweet potatoes. Shit was fuckin delicious. I will NEVER stop eating meat. Go fuck yourself and die faggot.

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oh, i forgot to joke because i'm drunk and in professor mode. the reptilian brain shaped like fucking florida is funny because it mocks their stereotype of being mindless and driven by urges. personally, i think it's the salt air moving over them and they're deranged from salt on the brain. same with japan.

None because I don't eat farmed meat as I'm not an obese nigger who would chimp out if popeyes ran out of chicken.

No excuse. It's obvious that provided we agree that an animals life belongs to the animal, killing them when it's not strictly necessary is morally inferior to not killing them. Specific exceptions (starvation, etc) excluded of course. But nothing is more tiresome than people pretending that what they're doing is morally superior when it is not. I am not morally superior. The reason I kill and eat animals is because I don't have enough empathy with them to cease what I'm doing. The reason I don't kill and eat human beings is because I have more empathy with them than that desire. Plus prions, which isn't something I'd like to have.

What OP is doing is larping that someone who lacks empathy can suddenly and magically develop empathy if you just shame them enough, or something equally dumb. But you can't convince anyone to "have empathy" because empathy is not a decision. It's a reaction. If you want me to develop empathy with animals, then you have to place animals in a situation where I equate them with human beings. Which is almost impossible since I don't keep pets.

Your best option besides that, is to provide me with alternatives that are TASTIER than animals. Not better for me, more nutritious etc. Tastier.

And that's probably the case for the majority of meat eaters. So there. Go figure out a solution. Or if you prefer, keep doing the ineffective shit you're doing now.

because fuck animals

Bunch of chinese bugmen in this thread.

Wowee! basic reactions to pain!

This means nothing, most animal species are also capable of reacting to stimuli. What truly matters is how they adapt to said stimuli. Can you teach a cow to write in english? Can you teach a cow and to respond to closed questions? If it isn't capable of any higher functions outside of eat, shit and breed then why should we treat it with any semblance of equality?

I see you are a third world citizen as well

You know I realized something funny today while in some weird paleo-diet store I stopped in to pick up some CBD. Why the fuck is it that vegans and whatnot are all high and mighty about abstaining from meat is the more enlightened way to eat when vegan products are specifically marketed, packaged, and prepared to mimic the flavor and texture of the very animals they claim to have such reverence for? Like, if barley or quinoa is your thing, own that shit faggot! Don’t try to make your disgusting quinoa and impossible meat in cashew sauce taste like artificial Shepard’s pie ya fuckin cocksuckers!

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fear is just emotional seasoning.

I've said this several times to my brother, who's vegetarian. Like, why are you going "it tastes just like meat!!" That's like saying murder is wrong, then invent a hobby that makes you go "it's exactly like killing people!"

K, but you were against that, weren't you?

Op is a fag but also is anyone who gets their meat from the store or a butcher, all these faggots dont know what its like to take a life and consume it.

Wtf user, we are designed to digest vegetables from the beginning, had to evolve to actually eat meat

This nigger failed 3rd grade biology.

i eat free-range and enjoy getting the nutrients i need to function
also this

muriKKKa don't need no excuse.
Cruelty is the point.

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Imagine believing you can go too alkaline

Lmao those kids were separated from potential rapists. Fucking leftists would rather let children be raped than upset a minority. Fucking wetbacks are lucky they're not using live ammo on them yet.

I’ve caught and killed trout, then fileted and eaten it in the same evening. Tasted gooooood

Not as bad as the alkaline nigger

You, user, are listening to a bunch of shit. We have ALWAYS been carnivores, and our body requires animal protein for the best health. Outlaw animal cruelty, don't deprive humans of good nutrition.

For the most part I kill my own. I can assure you, they usually don't suffer much. I don't trophy hunt, so the head need not be preserved. As for fish, pretty sure the immediate gutting ends the suffering pretty fast.

Apes our are closest living relatives and even they eat meat

it was that evolution that gave us larger brains and ultimately a higher intelligence.

Now wait a moment user, as much as I love meat we all know we EVOLVED to enjoy it, let's not go full autist here

Why does that even matter?

So we are gate keeping eating meat now because "muh testosteroni"

Why does that matter? We don't all have to be Thag the cave hunter. There's this thing called civilization.

This.

Again... bad information. It went the other way. We went from hunters to gatherers, not the other way around.

I don't get why vegans get so worked up about other people's decisions and morals. Society is clearly not going to give up eating meat,let alone ALL animal products. If it makes you feel better for doing it, good on you, but who cares what some other person does. I love animals, and eat seafood as my main protein source. Doesn't mean I try and tell every other cunt what to do with their life.

Put the Fox pipe down!

Where the hell are you even getting this autistic EVOVLED obsessions from anyway? If you’re really gonna go that far back down the line to when we never touched meat then it’s as irrelevant as comparing and elephant and a shrews diet for similarities due to their genetic link

Nature. Humans evolved as opportunistic omnivores which ate meat any time they could get it. Now that meat is easily accessible denying your body the easy way of getting protein into your diet is only retarded.

Truth. Vegetards conveniently overlook the terrible deaths that animals suffer in the wild. They also ignore the fact that farmed animals have a quick, relatively painless death. Let’s face it: the vegetard brain is female-tier.

Niggers

Ah I see you have American farms, that's capitalism for you.

well, i gotta eat.

being a faggot sounds true to your nature

Factory farmed animals are trash. Enjoy eating bleached chicken

Birds are stupid. Pigs are assholes.
We should kill them.

>bleached chicken

Don't forget the bleached eggs because of unsanitary conditions for the hens, and also they hate the brown eggs.

Absolutely, just correcting the idea that in some way we started being carnivores even though we literally weren't able to digest meat

This is the talk liberals are not ready to have

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Taste better when you sprinkle your tears over it.

On the end of the day the answer is bigger farms, you have half a continent, use it, and give staff those electric wheel-board things, you know the funny ones.

>cutthroat capitalism
Found the Sociology major.

That moment of pleasure