Give me ONE reason why anyone who actually works for a fucking living should vote for this guy. Because so far...

Are you familiar with the concept of utilitarianism? You understand you don't live in a vacuum right, that the kinds of lives you help provide for your fellow countrymen will affect you one way or the other.

Bernie is Jesus, faggot. He will bring salvation to all mankind. If you weren't a giant fucking nazi faggot you'd know that.

These retards all think they’re going to be rich enough someday to become the exploiters.

Attached: average republican.jpg (496x498, 71K)

I have to be rich before I can complain about paying more fucking taxes? How fucking old are you? Do you even have a fucking job?

You work as a SE and you think Bernie is on your fucking side? Dude, people like Bernie view you as a literal cash cow. When he says he's going to tax the "rich", what he really means is he's going to pay people like you. The ones who make 6 figures but aren't rich people to stop working for a living. That's what you want?

Yet nobody is even talking about "qualify" except you. Now let me tell you what will REALLY happen. College will become "free", the brown mob will flood into schools they have no business being in, and the quality of education will go to fucking shit. That's what you want? For every class to be dumbed down to fucking grade school levels so niggers and spics can pass them?

These arguments are so tired.

I don’t know how math works for people that they assume private healthcare is somehow cheaper than a socialized medicine system.

And as for the “but Canada has to wait and their personnel are incompetent”: seriously just ask an actual Canadian. Even if you ask a right wing Canadian and he complains about his taxes, be sure to explain to him the concept of deductibles on top of what you pay per paycheck. Every last one of them will be genuinely shocked if they didn’t already know that about Americans.

There’s no reason that normal, working class Americans should turn to GoFundMe when they get cancer. Shit is ridiculous.

Pic related; it’s what I made last year. It ain’t much in the scheme of things, but it ain’t negligible, either. AND I started in late February.

Attached: 5641764D-7B9C-4D80-A1F6-AC02E382E9E1.jpg (2048x1928, 1.42M)

Jimmy Carter was elected in '76 by being a genuinely good person with good ideas and he won the hearts of the American people. He got exactly jack-shit done because even then, before politics had become the horror show it is now, he couldn't make the kinds of slimy deals that gets shit done in Washington - he was a straight player, not a con artist. Also, he managed to piss off George HW Bush who was the heir apparent to the throne. He was stonewalled, and the economy took a massive hit because of the skyrocketing oil prices. Once he made is famous 'malaise' speech, he was done for - the American public don't want the truth, they want hamburgers, football and cheap gas.

So, even with all his lovely promises, Bernie, if elected, would get fuck all done.

Now, why would you want to vote for him? Simple, there are two kinds of Republicans: billionaires and suckers, you are one of those - that's not meant to be an insult or a joke, it's really just the way it is. You have been fed propaganda from "capitalist" (really oligarch) forces for decades in that country, and most of you have no idea what political center or left even are.

The man has dreams, and good intentions, and Washington will fuck him hard.

So don't worry, the perpetual war against the foreigners who are coming to take your jobs, rape your women, etc etc (which they have been doing for over 100 years, by the way) will continue, and your hard-earn tax dollars won't be wasted on education, infrastructure or health care, they'll be wisely invested in war, corporate welfare and spy networks.

Thanks for your opinion Ivan

He's not trump
That's literally all the reason I need

>more taxes
Oh wow, that totally wasnt happening anyway. You're not very smart are you?

Yes, you have to be rich to qualify about taxing the rich. How is this so difficult for you to grasp? Create new tax brackets at 2, 5 and 10 million per year and tax the fuck out of them.

because that college armageddon is what happened in Europe? You're trolling so obviously now it's just lazy.

No, I really don't think he does. When he says he is going to tax the rich, I think he means he is going to tax the fucking rich. Stop fear mongering. And right now I don't fucking agree at all with how the government is spending the money, so hell yes I want him in office. I'm sick and fucking tired of my tax dollars going to raytheon and northrup grumman and all those fucking gov contractor leeches, I'd rather them be spent, like I said, on infrastructure, health care and education.

So donate your own fucking money if you wanna "help" them so fucking much. You retards love spewing this muh society bullshit, but only as long as you're not the paying for it.

Alright retard, I'll play your game. Please break down for us how Bernie is going to tax the "rich". I promise I'll try as hard as possible not to fucking laugh at you, because I can tell I'm talking to a literal kiddie right now.

And how many niggers and spics live in fucking Europe? I love how you dipshits love bringing up Europe but you don't want us to pay attention to the people who actually live there. So why don't you retards fucking move there if they're doing it so well?

>When he says he is going to tax the rich, I think he means he is going to tax the fucking rich
Then you're an ignorant retard. The democrats NEVER tax the fucking rich. They ARE the fucking rich. When they say "we're going to tax the rich" this is code for "we're going to tax people who work for a fucking living". The middle class in other words. You need to wake the fuck up.

and here just to further illustrate my point, Sanders plan won't affect my taxation really, but it will hopefully help direct funds to things I care about for the wellbeing of my country and countrymen. He adds additional tax brackets for those uber rich fucks who have gamed the system to the point of breaking it.

Attached: Screen Shot 2020-02-01 at 9.11.44 PM.png (2380x1366, 293K)

doesn't matter, the rich are going to be the ones taxed. Are you rich? No? Then shut up and enjoy the benefits.

Attached: moving the goalposts.jpg (574x328, 63K)

DUDE. HE IS NOT AN ESTABLISHMENT DEMOCRAT. Why do you think the establishment democrats are freaking the fuck out! God fuck off you idiot.

>FOR
>THOSE
>THAT
>QUALIFY
ate a lot of lead paint as a kid, eh?

Republicans and Democrats are BOTH the rich you fucking shoe size IQ ass motherfucker

Imagine being fucking retarded enough to think heavily taxing the people responsible for providing wages isn't going to hurt those at the bottom.. Jesus fucking Christ

The rich are starting to eat gold and precious stones.
Fuck that. Capitalism needs a fucking check and reset

Attached: 6281028-6398235-image-a-2_1542384842954.jpg (634x633, 127K)

Right so you don't even know, you're just dancing around and acting retarded like a fucking faggot

>Income tax
Jesus Christ, you're even more fucking brainwashed than I thought. You think rich people give a fuck about the fucking income tax? Most of them don't even fucking PAY income tax. And even the ones who do it's a small fraction of what they are worth. You know who gets hurt by income taxes? The fucking middle class.

Those shitty democrats also hate Bernie, that should probably tell you something.

'it isn't free shit, we'd just rather our tax dollars go to programs that actually benefit people rather than defense contractors and multi national corporations.'
Agreed
'I think his policies will lead to a stronger and more equitable society'
Partially agree

'I want to see more people be able to afford to go to college'
Ahh Bernie is taxing one group and giving it free to another. Thats not affordable

But Bernie wants open borders!
So... every american is paying to educate non americans,
'as more folks who are educated is a much better outcome for society than more burger flippers'
But you / bernie support open borders so any american that gets educated and moves up , there will be 2X 3X or 10X uneducated foreigners doing the burger flipping anyway. What fucking educated jobs are the illegal immigrants coming in and filling? Please tell us so we can take you arguments seriously

>Providing wages

Attached: how_to_build_a_fast_food_restaurant_self_ordering_kioskand_payment_solution_image_1.png (1340x1050, 104K)

imagine being fucking retarded enough to think we can live with massive income inequality and expect society to function and for the people to not fucking eventually riot in the streets and put every fucking billionaire in a goddamn guillotine

Are republicans the ones who rant and rave about the rich? Alright then, so what the fuck are you even blabbering about?

They only "hate" him because they think he can't win the general election. And they're right.

It's not war its modern colonialism. You really think we're gonna leave Japan or Germany or the Middle East? No we conquered these countries and they are more or less under our control. You really think a country with our military bases is going to act up? Or even ask for us to leave? No lol

voting for Bernie because Biden is basically McCain, and the cunt is basically a more conservative Hillary.

If Bernie doesn't win the primaries, I'll prob just move outta this shit hole

This is exactly why capitalism is a fucking joke.
"Hey, we need jobs that can support ourselves with."

"Oops, looks like you spoke out of turn. Time to spend way MORE money to build a machine that doesn't talk back."

Yeah they certainly aren't worried, that's why they aren't collectively shitting their fucking pants at the thought of Sanders getting the nomination. Take the corporate dick out of your mouth and wake up.

He's ok

Lol, you think people are going to ruin in the fucking street any time soon? When the average retard has money for $1500 iPhones and fucking Amazon Prime. You have no idea how fucking good people have it in this country. Try living in fucking Africa or South America for a year, then come back here and bitch about how fucking hard you life is in America.

>, that's why they aren't collectively shitting their fucking pants at the thought of Sanders getting the nomination
Who the fuck is shitting their pants over this? If anything they're fucking LAUGHING at you idiots who believe the bullshit Bernie says.

for NYC thats like poverty level. and i know canadians. i have family im quebec. theyre healthcare sucks. if it didnt then the ones that are able to wouldnt come to the US for healthcare

We dont want free shit, we just want everyone to atleast be equal

".....so I can afford more gold covered, Cristal-infused donuts"

Attached: download (3).jpg (213x237, 11K)

>$1500 iPhones
The flagship phone sales are declining quickly in place of mid-range models. Very telling actually

Listen I don't know how much you are paying attention to the democratic primary but the status quo niggers in the democratic party are freaking out and definitely do not want Sanders to get it. What I'm getting at is the Dems and Repubs are basically playing for the same team (donor class) and we actually have a chance to fundamentally change the way this shitheap country is ran. Look at what has happened to us? Look how much more the wealthy own than the rest of us. Has it gotten better or worse over the last 50 years why? Who writes the laws, is it the poor or the rich? Who controls they system - the poor or the rich. Dude wake up. I'm 99% certain you aren't the billionaires, you do not need to defend them and the status quo.

I never claimed to know, I only said the rich need to be taxed and gave an example of how that could work. You're not rich, but by god you've got their dick so far up your ass it's tickling your tonsils.

the donor class is, shit for brains

>by taking away what people have worked hard to get
Neat, ya fuckin pinko commie scum.

YUUUP.

Capitalism's time has come. Burn the whole fucking system to the ground. I support Bernie, but if he doesn't win, we need to start an ACTUAL fucking revolution and personally destroy these corporations.

I'd gladly take a bullet if my actions ruined these multi-billion dollar corporate fuckstains livelyhoods.

>I want to see income inequality go down
For the most part the "wealth inequality" you guys are so buttblasted over is the result of high taxation, inflation (the invisible tax), excessive regulation, government manipulation of the money supply (yes, money printing) and a bloated welfare state making it unattractive for companies to manufacture products in the United States.

At the same time, the companies that DO manage to do well here are mostly tech companies which generate huge profits with low overhead, which means that the people at the top and the handful of engineers and programmers they employ get incredibly rich, without creating any additional jobs for unskilled/low skilled workers. In addition, the cost of living in the cities where these companies are located skyrockets, without an additional increase in average income.

Meanwhile, the same people who brought you the high taxes and excessive government regulation that killed off most of middle America are simultaneously opening borders to allow hordes of immigrants to swarm in and scoop up the handful of low-skill jobs that ARE available, which not only makes these jobs more competitive, but also ensures that wages remain low.

What we need is a STABLE currency with minimal inflation. the more the government tries to manipulate the economy, the more it keeps distorting it ... with costs rising soon $15/hour won't be enough, then $20/hour won't be enough, etc... We should be aiming to keep the prices of things as STABLE as possible. that's the best way to stimulate growth, just by keeping things stable and predictable.

We need to drastically reduce the size and scope of government. Let's return to the proven principles of free market capitalism, which are responsible for making the US the wealthiest country on the planet with the highest standard of living the world has ever known.

youtube.com/watch?v=RY0R0NpIdQQ

Attached: Schiff_-_OWS.jpg (1202x663, 92K)

Imagine being fucking retarded enough not to know that the wealthy were taxed between 72-90 percent while our nation was at it's peak economically. All the way until Reagan implemented "trickle down" economics and it's done nothing but shrink the middle class and funnel profits to the top 1%. Higher marginal tax rates incentivize higher wages A robust middle class creates jobs, and by jobs I mean living wage jobs.Moron spouting the talking points you're given by the people that have fucked this country sideways. You stupid snarky little bitch. Sucking that 1%er dick.

Tired Tucker Carlson bullshit. CEO pay has skyrocketed while the wages haven't. that's not the result of regulations

>worked hard
Explain how cheating the working class and tax evasion is hard work. Please. I'll wait. Capitalist scum all deserve to burn.

I'd be more than happy. Either way, we are changing this country. I have guns and am not afraid to use them if the rest of the left rises up.

Or it could be because people are finally realizing they don't need to drop that much money for the same goddamn phone every 2 years

Cute narrative, but the economy is self correcting in both directions. Pay your employees and that money eventually goes back to you. Imagine being such a small-minded mediocre pissant that you can't afford to do that.

all these stupid basement dwelling turds on here think that defending billionaires is better for them. This country fell hard on corporate dick. maybe its time to make rules for these asshole billionaires and take all that money and spend it on every american

Because life isn't fair faggot

give me one reason why you should not vote Bernie?

Attached: uj1btsiyf1e41.png (820x768, 529K)

Why in the fuck would anyone want fucking poor people writing laws? What the fuck kikery is this? Go live in fucking Somalia if you fucking want to live like that.

the novelty has worn off after 14 years. Nobody's impressed that you have the latest product of Chinese slave labor.

I have a S10 work phone and a Moto X4 personal phone and I love the X4 and am sooooo fucking over Bixby.

>people with useless degrees and non-whites demanding free shit.
This.
Anyone saying "why not" or "give me a reason not to" are already unemployed leeches and they're not happy the the amount of gibs they are currently distributed.

Attached: 1495589848010.jpg (716x960, 118K)

You stupid asshole. The US government gives away billions and billions to rich people. He wants to give it to regular people so they can get education.
Are you fucking retarded thinking that that is a bad idea?

>we need a flat tax because it's fair
go fuck yourself shill

I disagree with your ignorant fucking premise that you're not already equal.

>cheating the working class
>MOMMY RICH PEOPLE ARE THE REASON I'M A FUCKING LOSER REEEEEE

My god you are fucking pathetic

I'd like you to please explain to me how high taxation and excessive regulation has caused the largest wealth transfer in the history of this country in the last 50 years. Please, in detailed terms, explain to me why "big government" has allowed CEOs to make 271 times more than the average worker, a rate much much higher than the past.

Also, please explain to me why the rich wouldn't be in favor of high taxation and excessive regulation if it does indeed lead to the results you say it is. Do they hate owning most of the wealth in this country or something?

While you target "regular joe" over here, the 1% are laughing because that frame of mind keeps you off their back.

>poor people writing the laws is jewish
wew lad

Attached: laughs kosherly.jpg (652x440, 34K)

>tired of the way this country works
What parts are you tired of?

I'm a steadily employed WHITE cishet male. I'm praying Bernie gets the power so that shitheel cocksuckers like Bezos and his billionaire ilk will be held accountable.

While the rich are flying their private jets to Japan to have a gold covered Cristal-infused ice cream cone the pitchforks are are being dusted off.

The duck is it with richfags and Cristal?

Attached: images (4).jpg (201x251, 9K)

>maybe its time to make rules for these asshole billionaires and take all that money and give it to my pets
That's what you really meant to say right?

>Give me ONE reason why anyone who actually works for a fucking living should vote for this guy.
Because your other options have been fairly vocal about not giving a single fuck about you.
>Because so far, all I've seen is people with useless degrees and non-whites demanding free shit.
"Demanding free shit" is not the same as asking individuals and corporations to pay their fair share back to America. Maybe even for America to use those funds in a way that benefits itself more than it's military complex. Like re-investing in education and healthcare.

rich people are the reason we are all falling behind relative to them. how many millions are you worth anyway?

I DO NOT WANT THE RICH CONTROLLING LEGISLATION. God what a fucking idiot you are. Do you lube up before you take that sweet corporate dick in the ass.

>CEO pay has skyrocketed while the wages haven't. that's not the result of regulations
Wage growth always trails inflation. That's not the fault of capitalism. Meanwhile, that's your benevolent central bank hard at work stealing your purchasing power through inflation... "the invisible tax".

Attached: 82rketWa.jpg (655x645, 71K)

>are you rich? Because if you're not, don't even attempt becoming rich because Marxists have turned that into an extension of the state and you only get rich if you play Bernie's game.

I should have gone into glassblowing. Learn to make a really fancy bottle, piss in it, and tell the rich it's soluble gold and they would drink it by the gallon.

Oh I'm done targeting the common man. When the revolution comes, I will personally fly a plane into Bezos' fucking gold plated fleshlight collection and end that motherfucker

And who is making those evil CEOs rich? Oh yeah, retards like you who buy fucking play stations and 60 inch plasma TVs. But then you wanna bitch and complain about the fucking rich while you blow all your money on fucking bullshit. Get the fuck outta here.

Sounds pretty fucking jewish to me. Why would I want some broke nigger deciding the laws? How's that working over there in fucking Africa?

Did you watch the video? "Crony capitalism" is addressed several times.

youtube.com/watch?v=RY0R0NpIdQQ

> Mmm I love billionaire dick. yummy! Yes please fuck me over some more. I love my tax money going to corporate welfare.

>it's better to spend our national treasure on college educations
Because it worked so well dumping millions into free high school?

Attached: Tax Spending.png (602x618, 116K)

the ratio of executive pay to worker salary is at a high not seen since before the Great Depression. If inflation were the cause, then the ratio would remain constant. But it isn't, because it isn't, and you're full of shit.

>if you think anything would change with Bernie in fucking office. He's been in the senate for like 40 years.
Why? Because he'll have a history with other politicians and hopefully be able to reach across the isle? Mitt fuckinbg Romney got booted from the CPAC, do you really want more of this extremism nonsense?

if your'e going to use a strawman, at least put some effort into it.

Crony capitalism is only fixed with Sanders.

>wants his rich jewish overlords writing the laws
well you're getting what you wanted Noah

Attached: orthodox laughing.jpg (800x450, 66K)

This is fucking disgusting, user.

>be an entry level worker
>never leave because kids have no aspiration of driving their work effort forward, + government hand outs keep people weened on the state
>Be replaced by a machine that does the job 100% more effectively because human interaction with these morose teet suckers is fraught with inconvenient forgetfulness.
>people have to install them- a job you can get to by educating yourself instead of self indulgence
>people have to still service them- a job you can get to by educating yourself instead of self indulgence
>corporate coordinators which figure out which stores need these- a job you can get to by educating yourself instead of self indulgence
>The company who makes these- a job you can get to by educating yourself instead of self indulgence

lol it's so silly to be mad at people for progressing further than you because you refuse to help yourself because you've ingrained the idea you just need the government to live. What a fucking cuck to the system that you can actively raise above.

>Because it worked so well dumping millions into free high school?
Well you're able to post here.

Fuck yeah! Bern this motherfucker down!
It's all ours if we take it in a few days/months.

It really is sad, isn't it? These stupid fucks are so deluded by their corporate overlords that they've been brainwashed to believe that they owe everything to the "kindness" of the 1%

>and hopefully be able to reach across the isle?

Attached: 1579924044532.gif (311x240, 1.28M)

Isn't it interesting how the conservatives who pat themselves on the back for having jobs live in dusty trailer parks and the people who they desperately need to not have jobs are randomly living in expensive urban centers of commerce?

Cope that you can't afford flagship anymore either.

>I only payed like $500 for my flagship Galaxy s a few years ago

>useless degrees
im seeing people with stem degrees struggle.

And what specific qualifications does he have in fixing crony capitalism?

Complaining about rich people?

Attached: breadlinebernie.jpg (790x696, 123K)

This is the "rich" paying taxes folks. Vote Democrat!

fucking THIS right here. Nowhere else in the civilized world do you have to do a goddamn gofundme for fucking cancer treatment. Or those stupid American movies where the hero has to win X to pay for Y medical procedure for his sick mom/sister/wife/girlfriend. That shit is absolutely foreign in more enlightened nations.

Yes, your LENOVO Moto x4 made in China by the Chinese parent company
Kek

Because needing to work is an outdated social construct. It's entirely possible to automate everything that humans would need to "work" on such as food production, infrastructure, health, education. Letting "the robots take out jobs" is a good thing because robots don't need to be paid, which means things they make are free to make (because the resources needed to make them are also run by robots who don't get paid and so on), which means everything is free. Nobody has to pay for anything anymore, everyone gets what they want and need, and everyone has all the free time in the world to be who they WANT to be rather than wasting time being what the NEED to be by today's standards.

>and non-whites
racism is kind of shit.

I thought Bernie wanted to be more like Sweden. They tax the poor the hardest and free the upper class to grow and innovate. Let's do that instead of whatever retarded non-Scandinavian shit you want to do.

>Muh corporate overlords
>He says as everything he "owns" is likely from a fucking corporation

Then when are you fucking moving to Africa?

absolutely. We hired 5 new scientists where I work (big pharma) about 7 years ago and not a one has paid off the debt yet. And Abbott pays well, but goddamn it's hard to work off 60,000 in student loans. And that's from goddamn State universities.

Slog? We live in the most powerful and most prosperous nation in the history of human civilization. The current economy is right in the middle of an enormous boom. Shit has been and is going great. This doom and gloom "oh life has been so hard for us, we need toss out the old system" shit is nonsense.

The same reason EVERYONE who isn't retarded should vote for him: He's not backed by billionaire sociopaths like every other right/left/liberal/conservative option.
[still waiting for Trump to drain the swamp]

>food production, infrastructure, health, education
Yeah because jobs outside those 4 things don't exist. Fucking dumbass.

Yeah well your mother sucks cocks in hell, so eat my shit you racist, corporate cocksucker.

Attached: 1564712183539.jpg (960x864, 138K)

>we keep cutting taxes on the rich

People say shit like this as if they have any clue what they are talking about.

are you so ignorant of the fact that a few hundred people have the majority of wealth in country and maybe taking some of that and redispersing it amongst the american populance thats been taken of advantaged of for fucking decades is somehow means feeding a fucking dog?

It's been shown that, throughout history, regardless of tax rate, revenue remains almost exactly the same. You just apply his spending plan and figure revenue is the same and you know we're fucked.

Attached: spending per year.jpg (587x730, 98K)

Yep
Probably
Or just call it Cristal-infused piss and shred some gold into it

>Gold covered hot wings anyone?

Attached: ainsworthgoldwings.0.jpg (1200x800, 133K)

I'm okay with paying for that's why I'm voting for Bernie buddy, I WANT my tax dollars to go to my fellow man, not to rich executive assholes, defense contractors, oil companies, and a million other leeches.

Right so you're not going and you're a fucking hypocrite. Now shut your retarded underaged ass the fuck up while grown men talk politics. You ain't old enough for this conversation.

Smaller population, different cultures, different ethnic demographics.
Also, those nations where it works are rife with debt, and have little to no foreign policy concerns as America is usually the first to respond and defend them, especially for nations in NATO.
Having to spend no money on military, and foreign policy assists heavily in providing extra funds for other things, however nations where it does “work” like Sweden or Denmark, they have no federally mandated minimum wage and lower federal business taxes than the US, and citizens even of the lowest brackets pay at minimum 60 percent of their income in taxes.

you should look up a claim before you pull it out of your ass

abcnews.go.com/Technology/slideshow/moto-motorolas-made-america-smartphone-19842367

Bernie bros are just as extreme just in the opposite way. They are the Vegans of the political world. Soon as you meet t hem they bring up Bernie, its fucking stupid.

lol that's not how it is in Sweden you dumbshit

you sound dumb

Attached: participate.jpg (814x578, 102K)

Right, so this has nothing to do with wealth gap or any of that bullshit. This is just another way to funnel more gibs and programs to your fucking pets. That way they stay in their containment zones and vote democrat. At least you're being honest about it.

amazing that after thousands of years, this rich vs. poor game still works on the plebs.

Oh word? We're killin it huh? Except for the $90 billion the middle class has paid in taxes per year to help mitigate the over 1.5 TRILLION dollar tax break for billionaires. The deficit is higher than ever. BUT HEY, STOCKS ARE UP!!! wages are shit but HEY STOCKS ARE UP!!! Fucking retard

Attached: 88on.jpg (494x892, 90K)

>ignoring the tax cuts to the rich that blew a hole in revenue streams
god you're not even trying, are you?

>everything he "owns" is likely from a fucking corporation
No shit. It's not like there is any more alternatives. It's ALL consolidated into the hands of like 30 people

Imagine being fucking retarded enough to think that current system works in anyway and relieving taxes on those providing income increases the income they give out on anyone but their top 5 faggots.

Anyway 7/10

>fellow man
>like electing a career politicians is going to end capitalism.
lol

HOLY SHIT. This has to be fucking bait. Not even responding. If someone actually believes this please exit life ASAP.

do you know how big a difference is between a million dollars and billion? I am on track to be a millionaire. I will never in my fucking life come close to having a billion dollars. To compare them in any way shows how little you really understand.

it genuinely saddens me to think of all the gold leaf that sits at the bottom of sewers and septic tanks.

>alternative
Except there is, and it's called Africa. So again, when are you moving there?

fairy tale. wake up and smell what you're shoveling

Attached: e5432db4f7d2344f4866bdbef843764f.png (552x452, 647K)

What is your fascination with Africa? Is your step-dad Tyrone giving you good boy points every time you bring it up in conversation?

How old are you?

>People say shit like this as if they have any clue what they are talking about.
Because they DONT know what they're talking about, but they've been fed so much bullshit they start believing it. Also funny how corporations are so bad and evil, until it's time to buy the new fucking iPhone and Air Nigger shoes. Then all of a sudden it's no problem.

Phhhthahahahahaha
>95% made in China
>Battery installed in America
>PROUDLY MADE IN THE USA

oh i see you're afraid of programs being created and minorties having better education and a better a job in this country and you feel threatned because of how fragile your dumbass is.

Older then you, as I don't believe in fairy tales.

>Sounds pretty fucking jewish to me
>Wants rich people writting laws
>That's not super jewish
Okay, Goldberg, back to your bank.

you realize the tax money is going to other people right? Where did you get this idea that tax money goes into the personal account of whoever is president.

this right here. My retirement accounts sit at about $450,000 combined and I have at least 20 years to go before I retire. So likely I will be a millionaire, might even have 2 or 3 depending on the market.

But I will never, ever be of the neoaristocracy. They laugh at people like us. Plus, people have no concept of inflation either, not realizing that being a millionaire will soon be solidly middle class.

How old are you.

His legislation is too radical to make it past the senate--especially with how partisan things currently are. At least Trump appeases to some of the industrial military complex. If it weren't for executive orders, I would actually vote for Bernie since he'll never get anything done (a Libertarian's wet dream).

But since I care about my 401k and have no need for some identity politics baiting communist, I will stick with Trump.

But thx-for-play-brah-dot-jpeg

>muh champion of labor

Attached: f33tor.jpg (671x832, 107K)

But not old enough to have passed basic proper grammar lessons I see.

I'm just saying, you hate corporations but you participate in making them money. That makes you a complete fucking hypocrite. So please, if you hate them so much why do you refuse to fuck off to Africa?

>minorties having better education
>implying leftist retards won't just dumb it the fuck down until they all pass
We get it kid, you still don't understand how the real world works

it doesn't say that anywhere. I know that making up nonsense is a product of being ignored as a child by your shitty parents, but you really need to stop if you ever want to be taken seriously in life.

youtube.com/watch?v=s2Ejib-aYpM&feature=youtu.be

sure you are sport.

What are you even talking about? I think you might of joined in on a different conversation, I never said Bernie was taking the money. I said that the fairy tale that electing Bernie is somehow going to make all the money in our system go to "the people" and not the "1%" is a fairytale, nothing more.

32

a lot of african countries are as bad as they are because they have a dog eat dog mindset

Welcome to Cred Forums, You must be new here.

Me too
And you have poor all over the world trying to recover gold from e-waste...that a hell of a comparison

Attached: eat-gold-ft-blog0317.jpg (1500x938, 218K)

It already is middle class. It's not like you can just stop working if you have a few million to your name, unless you're old as fuck or live like a fucking bum.

pleb confirmed - thinks stocks and economy are the same thing.

See
In fact, keep looking at that image until it really sinks into that thick fucking neanderthal skull of yours.

You sound butt hurt. I'm sorry.

Oof. No amount of reasonable debate will amount to anything here. Each of your points can easily be dismantled, but to what end.. I must ask, to what end...

I don't care about the fanbase, nigger, I care about the county and fixing a lot of ridiculous bullshit, which regardless if he pull through with he's campaigning on.
I'll take anyone who is willing to at least pretend they're trying to work together. Dividing the government into teams is really god damn stupid.

This is closer to the truth, if we're accepting reality here.

Attached: Bernie_Sanders_Difference_Socialist.jpg (600x552, 79K)

there's that lazy strawman again. Literally nobody is saying "free college for everyone no matter what". What we need is a European style system wherein those that QUALIFY, by taking the appropriate tests, receive a tuition-free education.

you're so dense you don't even realize that the proliferation of bullshit degrees like gender studies is a product of our private payment approach to college education.

>Implying you can escape from megacorporations in africa

It's because it's an easy sell. "The rich are rich by making you poor." Everyone loves an excuse and a chance to claim victim status. The rich are rich because they are better at navigating the system than you. git gud.

why is it a fairytale?

take comfort knowing that the gold mined from the shit will one day be re-ingested by the rich

These are a DIRECT result of $15/hr burger flipper jobs mentality.

fucking mouthbreathers cannot even take a simple order and put it in a bag without fucking it up 68% of the time, and they think they deserve $15/hr to do so.

Bernie doesn't have support within the Democrats themselves. Oh yes there is the occasional Ocasio but even elected, the chances of him passing any legislation of meaningful value is nearly nil.

Republicans will stonewall and plenty of Dems have no interest in him. See 2016 when they rigged the election just so he couldn't have a chance.

All you need to know about sanders is that small rally he had in california in the last election cycle where some black women took over the stage from him and like a cuck he just let them do it. weak.

Sure kid, the education won't get dumbed down. And niggers and spics are all math wizards right? That's what you're gonna say next isn't it?

no you won't. you "if so and so loses, I'm leaving" never leave.

>it doesn't say that anywhere
No shit
There not law that says they have to

bingo. and millions of working poor think they're middle class.

Now if that Abbott pension is there when I need it, I will legit get that blue lowercase "a" tattooed right on my scrotum.

You're envious of rich people who made their money from crony capitalism. This is the opposite of capitalism. More laws and regs and programs have never been successful. Yes, fuck Bezos, but fuck the corrupt system that Bernie wants to grow exponentially that enables these fuckheads.

you know i vote for these motherfuckers so that they can breakdown the economic gap and provide people with better educations so i can stop having these conversations with dumbasses like you who can barely grasp basic principles of our economy and government

1989-2029 is a paradigm shift in human civilization

No, it won't get dumbed down. It already IS dumbed down because it's a pay-to-graduate system. Degrees are a product sold to consumers in the USA, which is retarded. You don't see that in Europe, but you're so uncultured and insular you don't know how it works here or there. Because, of course, you were too dumb to get into college.

>What we need is a European style system wherein those that QUALIFY, by taking the appropriate tests, receive a tuition-free education.
And you think the fucking democrats are going to agree to something like that? What fantasy world you living in? If we had that the monkeys wouldn't get in. And what are you gonna do about community college? They all have open enrollment. You could be a fucking felon and still attend one.

Meaning what? HS teaches you how to post on Cred Forums and nothing more?

>the rich are rich because they are better at navigating the system than you
this is next level "almost getting the point"

Attached: 1519093364942.jpg (919x1024, 121K)

so you're speculating contrary to all known facts. that's illogical and stupid...which fits you just perfectly. Lean into it Cletus.

>The duck is it with richfags and Cristal?
Are you in Russia or the Ukraine or something? And paid to do this?

180+ responses, no reasonable rebuttals.

See

There's already way too many people with useless college degrees out there. WE don't need more degrees, we need more skilled tradesmen

the democrats aren't the problem. The Republicans are the ones who see education as a privilege to those that can afford it.

are you?

>No, it won't get dumbed down
Bull fucking shit it won't get dumbed down. Go to any school where blacks and/or hispanics are a majority. Those classes are a fucking joke. Which you won't do because you are clearly still in grade school yourself. Maybe when you attend community college in the future you'll see for yourself.

>Please break down for us how Bernie is going to tax the "rich"
Not that user, but he's proposed a lot of various ideas throughout his campaign.
>berniesanders.com/issues/tax-extreme-wealth/
>Establish an annual tax on the extreme wealth of the top 0.1 percent of U.S. households.
>Only apply to net worth of over $32 million and anyone who has a net worth of less than $32 million, would not see their taxes go up at all under this plan.
He had a neat idea on the Joe Rogan show about putting new taxes on trades in wall street. I feel like you purposefully aren't paying attention to the world around you.

>The duck is it with niggers and Cristal?
ftfy

>fixing crony capitalism
This. This is the problem all you fuckos are mad at. Not capitalism, but government. Then it's "Hey, Bernie is HUGE government but he's gonna make the rich pay?. You guys are fucking retarded. Then we'll have more wealth disparity, which = more crime. Good job dipshits.

if you care about your 401k you'd vote for Sanders which will cause a downturn in the market and make stocks cheap. That is unless you are boomer, than that wouldn't be a good strategy close to retirement, but if you are young fuck it - let those corrections happen a few more times, that just means stocks are on sale.

>b-b-but republicans
I see you're gonna play fucking stupid now. Let's try this ONE more fucking time. Do you seriously think the fucking democrats will agree to that? You're seriously this deluded?

yeah, so the European model is what you should support. Since you are uncultured, I will enlighten you. In Germany, for example, 16 year olds are put on the tradesman track or the university track based on aptitudes and test scores. This way, they can begin preparing for their next level of education, be it in scholarship or apprenticeship, before they are even out of high school.

THAT is what we need in this country. THAT is what you blindly oppose.

>Give me ONE reason why anyone who actually works for a fucking living should vote for this guy.
easy, he triggers libs. their collective meltdown at a trump vs bernie election would be historic.

computer science?

Doubt it
The rich will just avoid "post-consumer gold" by paying whatever extra for "new gold"
>Even their tv dinners are not like ours (still includes gold to eat)

I know fox news told you that but....fuck it. You're a reprobate anyway

Attached: tmg-slideshow_l.jpg (640x729, 38K)

>Wage growth always trails inflation
It hasn't though, which is part of the problem. Decades of inflation, and wages didn't increase accordingly

Why would we ever want to give the government more control over our lives? Our healthcare, our education...

What government agency isn't poorly ran? Look at the VA if you want a inkling of how shit that is and that handles only a certain group of people. The government can't even handle that shit, now you want them to control 250+ million more people and all the bureaucratic nightmare.

why do you keep trying to make an economic discussion into an argument about race and ethnicity? Using identity politics for everything is not productive

youve already made your mind up who fucking cares what you think lmao cry some more in b4 "SeE hE hAs nOtHiNg tO aDd" yeah cause everyone on b is american dumbass lol

Not that user, but that's more of an opinion that a fact. If he's president they'd be happy to pass something just to look good to the voter base.

>WE don't need more degrees, we need more skilled tradesmen

This. Degrees are necessary for certain fields, but I think a lot of high school kids are spoonfed this idea that all need to go to college. And I don't think it has anything to do with education, but some kind of rite of passage. I don't think degrees are useless. A motivated person can use a degree to start a valuable career that progresses society in their own small way. But an unmotivated person who went to college "just because" - that's a useless degree.

If you work for a living, you would be far better off economically with Bernie in charge. Even if you make $250K per year! It's only people far too rich to work that have anything to fear from him. And even then, he's not going to take their money. He just wants to raise their taxes.

friendly reminder that as of 2016, Black women are one of the most highly educated groups of the U.S. based on degrees

source: nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=72

how could you possibly know those classes are a fucking joke....unless YOU ARE A NIGGER/SPIC!

Attached: 1552782328996.jpg (467x471, 28K)

>free

God, what a bunch of fucktards. Nothing your government does is free.

of course the democrats will agree to it. They have nothing to lose. You seem to not know your US political parties and their policies very well.

you need to qualify that better. Not just government - government bought and paid for by corporations.

Bern said we need to eliminate millionaires before he made money off his book. He only changed his tune when he made over a million. Something about "anyone can make that much if they pull their boots up". Literally months after he said millionaires are destroying the country.

a nearly nil chance of tax reform and welfare legislation from Bernie is still higher than the chance Biden or Trump does that. what a silly argument

Nigger I study computer science right now. What's stopping blacks and hispanics from doing CS? I'll help you not, literally nothing. Granted you might have to stop the basketball and blunts down and crack open a fucking Calculus book, but it's do-able. And before you start talking shit about being a "privileged" white kid, I'm a fucking spic so you can save it.

he never said that

Attached: Bernie.ttF.jpg (1080x1256, 195K)

>does not into inflation
a million dollars ain't worth what it used to be kid

>minorties having better education
They already have more funding and more leniency and they are now worse off than in the 60s? Where have they been helped?

That's sad. He's basically preying on the peasants' belief that "millions" is some ungodly, unobtainable without cheating amount of money.

I support him. Have computer science degree making ~65k/y. Don't think its all liberal arts majors. Its engineers, mathmaticians, and scientists too.

Attached: fdwfities.jpg (723x798, 94K)

>He believes the fake news when it suits him
Okay, bud

Attached: IMG_4420.jpg (600x450, 101K)

It's almost as if electing people who constantly say government is bad/doesn't work have an obligation to ensure that that holds true.

Medicare and Medicaid function great, the one thing the US government is good at is paying people. Universal healthcare makes sense and it's proven to work just fine in many other countries. To deny that is just nonsense.

No amount of furious replies here will change the fact that he has zero chance of even winning the nomination, let alone the election.

>I bought a java for dummies book now I "study computer science"

It's really not. Many of democrat leaders have already came out against him. Not to mention, why oh why would we want to have the government more involved in our lives then we do now? Why would you ever want to be dependent on government? Bernie wants to complain about big corporation and big corp greed..the US Government is the biggest Corp, its survival by mismanagement is only because we allow it to go trillions of dollars into debt. Yet this is the entity you want me to give more power, more money and tie our personal livelihood to? Nah I'm good.

user, he doesn't mean Repubs are against standardized test that are traditionally unfair to areas that receive poor education. He means they're against putting money toward education in a meaningful manner.

CS is like Cred Forums nerds all packed together, but they might actually have to sit near a black person IRL. That environment isn't super fun for PoCs.

Attached: flytrap.jpg (1024x740, 182K)

>I have run out of arguments so I'm just going to say FAKE NEWS
capitulation suits you

Nah
In Colorado.

>everyone who disagrees with me is isn't real

>of course the democrats will agree to it
No the hell they won't. The democrats are constantly bitching that not enough niggers and spics not getting accepted into Harvard and Yale, or getting hired at fucking Google and Facebook. Even though they refuse to study CS or STEM in general.

isnt it on the news that democrats try to squash a poll because it showed bernie was doing too good?

source. I'm calling bullshit.

>And even then, he's not going to take their money. He just wants to raise their taxes.
How are those not one and the same?
I also find it laughable the people believe that these types of programs can be solely funded by taxing "ThE RiCh" when they are also the ones who complain incessantly how good that same class is at dodging taxes

bahahaha ok. sure. keep telling yourself that.

>Many of democrat leaders have already came out against him
When have they said that if he's elected they won't help him pass legislation? Because that's what you're implying.
And I'm not going to be dependent on the government, user. but some people need help in various ways in life. Helping them helps your country which helps it's global position. You DO want to be #1 again, right?

>I don't care about the county
You misspoke there.
>at least pretend they're trying
That's what it takes for you, someone to pretend they're doing something? I think you've been getting that for like 80 years.

He would lose spectacularly to Trump, his main support base is upper middle class white kids between the age of 19-23. If he somehow got the nomination he would lose older and working class Dems to Trump or they’ll stay home. He doesn’t energize black voters like the Clintons did so many would stay home or vote for Trump as a joke and by just nominating him Florida is as good as gone. It would just be a similar result to the recent UK election.

affirmative action still requires test scores to be up to university standards. It's only applied as a tiebreaker. You don't understand what you're talking about at all.

I say again: the Democrats will absolutely support tuition free education under the European model.

>I'm making up claims I can't prove
christ you guys lie like it's going out of style.

here's what I don't get though.
far FAR more people get through those colleges through nepotism. And yet there's not even a tiny fraction of the same outrage from you.

Nope, wrong. I'm in Junior status buck-o. So what's your excuse for being a dumb nigger.

What are you even talking about? There are barely any blacks doing CS. The junior college I went to was like 70-80% black and there STILL was a huge shortage of blacks in my classes. Out of 30 people there would be like 3-5 black people. No one is stopping any of them from studying CS if they want too. The problem is that liberals want to treat them all like helpless babies or dumb chimps, so they "discourage" them from going into STEM. I've seen this countless times.

Because I can’t afford college and it would be cool to be able to afford college without enslaving myself

They already have a robot job. Everything's timed and calculated, everything portioned out. Should've been automated decades ago. There's zero satisfaction in a robot job.

Attached: pnalysi.jpg (818x703, 78K)

I hope bernie wins the nomination.

Trump 2020-

yes. once he wins iowa they are going to do an all out assault on him. Dems and their donors do not want a sanders presidency, they don't want a dollar diverted to help the poor, working class and middle class people they just want to appear "hip" and "woke".

>implying Bernie isn't pretty huge with young people of color

Medicare costs us 583 billion a year as of 2018. It provides benefits for about 18% of the population. As things stand between SS & Medicare they are already averaging an increase to national debt of 82 trillion over the next 30 years. Yet this is the systems you want to say function great?

>Because I can’t afford college and it would be cool to be able to afford college without enslaving myself

Why didn't you bust your ass in high school and earn a scholarship? Also, college is only expensive if you have decided that you are entitled to go to an expensive college. There are plenty of inexpensive alternatives. >but i want muh party school

It also doesnt help that they graduate HS with poor piss math and writing skills. I've seen grown fucking niggers that couldn't even do multiplication or fractions, or break into a sweat trying to piece together a fucking paragraph

>Delusional Bernie upper middle class wannabe working class voter

>a nearly nil chance of tax reform and welfare legislation from Bernie
Oh you'll get that. Guaranteed. In the form of 4x the taxes you're paying today. He is by far the biggest spender on the stage. Who's going to pay for that?

They arent new ideas. Marxism is over 150 yrs old. Shit never worked out before , and no it wont work out this time.

Attached: 157583712522729.jpg (1425x581, 112K)

I never thought we were really #1 and I literally don't give a flying fuck about our social standing in the world. As for helping people, many people simply aren't worth helping. Yes, in magic fairytale land we are all great people who don't murder and rape one another, but back here on planet earth. Nah, I'm good. People who don't help themselves don't get to demand help from others. They need to grow the fuck up.

.

Attached: Berni ultra wimp.jpg (500x2099, 238K)

Yes he did. Before he made book money and colluded with his wife to defraud a college.

>Also, college is only expensive if you have decided that you are entitled to go to an expensive college
Not him but that isn't always true. I went to CC first and my state school is still expensive as fuck. It's over $1000 a credit.

So like 3 years ago?

Haha
I can't argue with fake news.

Regardless, you still bought a phone made by Chinese company. Congrats

>posted with my Lenovo Moto g7

Totally that’s why he swept all those southern states back in 2016...oh wait.

medicare isn't the reason healthcare is expensive - healthcare is just fucking expensive in this country and general that is crony capitalisms fault.

But yes, Medicare works, it does it's job and helps seniors get the care they need. And every politician knows that, because of how popular it is.

Not even the most far right fringe Repub is going to come out and try to abolish medicare, they just like to chip away at it because it actually is helping someone other than the donor class.

I don't think you grasp how scholarships work.
t. highest merit scholarship possible + additional scholarships for being in the field I'm in

>still left school with around 20K debt

>Medicare and Medicaid function great

Attached: good job.jpg (225x225, 12K)

also the reason for the debt is because since the 1950s the rich have had their collective share of taxable income go way down.

Shillbot time!

Attached: 1558252884036.jpg (720x240, 51K)

>18-29 lowest % of voters
>Mexicans, Blacks vote at a lower rate then whites of the same bracket
Yeah, he is going to crush Trump.

Sanders has a 1 in 6 chance of winning, might as well roll a die.

Attached: odds-2020.png (1023x1341, 353K)

It does. Your dumb meme doesn't prove jack shit.

>Universal healthcare makes sense and it's proven to work
It doesn't make sense and every country that has it is either struggling with it or trying to move away from it. There is zero proof, long term, that it works.

Attached: 1449038873604.png (500x503, 411K)

Imagine being so much of an NPC you can't even come up with your own fucking memes, you just have to repackage someone elses

>going off standards
I get that you were probably in elementary school when Obama was elected, but when someone fires up the youth, that's when it's game over time for boomer control

Look it up, lazy lib.

wrong on every point.

I can't user, Bernie voters are man-children. They simply do just want free shit.

I make more money than you.

wasn't this the same artist who made fun of people for pointing out bitcoin was a bubble?

nooo it was Joes turn

Attached: 105670507520.jpg (1024x742, 147K)

>$1trillion socialist bail-out for wall st and banks?
>sure no problem
>massive military overspending and waste of money?
>yep cool
>spend a couple of million dollars to provide free, basic services for the whole population that other developed countries already have?
>FUCKIGN COMMIES TRYINA STEAL MY TAX DOLLARS HURRRRRRR
you fucking yanks are retarded, just sayin.
you're all butthurt as fuck but cant do anything about it because to see the ass doctor would cost you $100k.

Attached: 1552466070271.jpg (331x332, 18K)

I live in Australia, we have universal health care.
All it does is ensure your tax dollars go towards funding other peoples lifestyle choices.

Attached: 1563732979701.jpg (900x760, 113K)

Yeah bro Bernie really "firing up" the youth with his old ass. Man, you should see him when he's ranting and his hair gets all crazy! THAT SHIT REALLY FIRES THEM UP

Imagine

Attached: 1556935708558.jpg (750x750, 320K)

I live in America. If I lost my job and get cancer, I just get to die. Careful what you wish for.

It's popular because 60+ year old voters have the highest voting percentage of any single demographic. With younger (18-29) the lowest. If you think it's popularity is anything but votes, your sorely mistaken.

Exactly, healthcare is stupid expensive so lets give everyone free healthcare. College is stupid expensive lets give everyone free college. I'd much rather talk about fixing those issues and making them affordable and let people pay for it themselves.

It's a very simple lesson most parents teach their kids. People treat things they didn't earn like shit. Yet if they have to pay for it, they will respect it and treat it. We don't need more kids not going to class. We don't need more anthropology and art history majors.

It's sad that people on the right who vote for Trump have the intelligence of a garden variety potato, don't own any capital, and wouldn't know what to do with it if they had it, yet vote against their own interests.

And it's also sad that the most powerful country in the world still believe in McCarthyism, and don't understand that it is cheaper overall to fund health care, social welfare, and education and none of that has anything to do with Communism...

Murriccca!

Herrrdeerpp....

Attached: 15758371252fqq2729.jpg (1425x581, 121K)

We aren't, but when the revolution comes you'll wish you had. Gonna be a bad time for regressives

>healthcare is just fucking expensive in this country
>that is crony capitalisms fault
Yes. You didn't need to go one from here. Medicare is broke and it's popular because it's muh gibs. So, how do we rid ourselves of cronies? Make government bigger?

Attached: 1539813672139.jpg (960x596, 193K)

Incorrect. It was not until the 1980s that tax rates started to drop. The top federal income tax rates in the 1950s, 1960s, 1970s was never below 70%

Except where it's broke. But yeah, working great. They just need more of your taxes to keep it going.

Obama fired up the youth as well as older Democratic voters, plus there was the Bush presidency and a bad recession starting. As well as the fact that Obama was black which really fired up people of color. Bernard scares older Democratic voters, the economy is doing fine and trump isn’t as hated as Bush was despite what the media wants people to believe. It would just be Jeremy Corbyn 2: USA Edition.

such a lame attempt

>don't own any capital
And those niggers voting democrat do?

Why is it popular. Go ahead and say it. Because... it works! And a large percentage of the electorate rely on it and use it, yes you are correct!

Murrica... Give money to banks, start wars that cost trillions of dollars, indenture black people in modern slavery, put people in prison even though it's stupid expensive... Kill people legally even though it's more expensive than housing them...

Vote for Trump...

MAAAGGAAA motherfuckers!

Dumbest powerful country in the world... And the rest of the world is laughing at you.

Prove me wrong. More people uncovered today. More money spent towards it. Less health CARE. It's just insurance that has been robbed and left bare by politicians.