Redpill me on veganism

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You have to do your own research, bro. You will never get a good answer from others since the bias for either side is too strong for people to be objective with their explanations. I have been vegan, vegetarian, and an omnivore so all I can tell you is the vegan diet is truly hard mode. When done correctly, the diet can relieve many of the issues caused from excessive consumption of high cholesterol and fatty foods. However, when half assed, you will end up even sicker and weaker than ever before due to the many deficiencies than can arise from improper meal planning.

Animals are dirty little pollution collectors and are procancer, prodisease. cannaibalism aversion exist for this reason, just take it further. If them chinks werent eating bats and washing their hands, this wouldn't have happened.

Going forward, with energy scarcity, you are going to need to get your food as locally as possibly. All your food can be grown in a closet, as plants, not animals.

Bottom line: it's inefficient. Animals are merely energy collectors, eating plants. There were a bridge full agriculture. Just eat the plants yourself.

you have forward facing eyes and canine teeth and a metabolism that needs ferrous iron. We evolved to eat meat, so eat meat.

Being right for the wrong reasons.

As a continuation of this post, I felt the most strong on an omnivore diet, but I can't say that the vegan diet could not provide this same level of strength since I did not properly plan for the dietary restrictions and ended up being deficient in quite a few essential vitamins and minerals. I now am a "flexitarian", where I eat like a vegetarian 80% of the time and an Omni 20% of the time and have found a very good balance for me. I really don't subscribe to the whole "save the animals" thing but I do see that this whole farming shit is really getting out of hand. The sheer amount of antibiotics laden meats out there are worrying and the disgusting practices of letting the dead animals mingle with the live is troubling to say the least.

>Forward eyes
Grabbing tree branches
>Canines
Same as gorillas

Pretending you are right, those teeth me about 5oz of meat a week. No faggy macho posturing if pink slime every meal.

>Pretending you are right, those teeth me about 5oz of meat a week. No faggy macho posturing if pink slime every meal.
not samefag, can you rephrase that? i don't get it

As meat eaters go, human canines are modest to say the least. Our teeth are 80% like horses. Only 10% like sharks.

All these proud carnivores aren't Dwayne Johnson. They are 5 foot 8 inch 250 pound, bellies with legs, with broken dicks, crying about how "I gots to have my meat, or I won't be healthy".

High quality infrequent consumption of meat, isn't the same as your 59 cent cheese burger. And when you eat meat this infrequently, it kills the myth of how good meat is. Penn Gillette was a fat gay for decades. Now meat just grosses him out. I found the same.

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>doesn't know the difference between ferric and ferrous iron
wew lad

>Can't read
>5oz a week

Hiarchey of needs. Do I need to? Have some lentils. Or is one the cheapest most nutritious foods on the planet not high enough status for you?

Veganism is fine. Until they try to force it on everyone.
You do your thing and I'll do mine. Ok ?
And my thing includes dining on tasty animal flesh...

Vegans are a detriment to the environment. The amount of fuel burned to import shit like avocados, is 10x worse than processing meat.

Yes, industrial farming is harmful to animals and people, considering the GMOs and hormones that pump the animals with so they grow faster, but environmentally speaking, meat is better.

Especially cows, becuz their grazing prevents soil erosion and thus prevents a dust bowl from happening again, but hur durr cow farts bad.

But meat consumers are the ones forcing the consequences of their decisions on others.

this

Vegan fag detected.
We humans have always eaten meat. Convince me to do otherwise, don't you ever try to force me or you'll lose.

We humans have always murdered and raped so it should be legal.

It's actually belches. 4 stomachs are.on the front end of the gi tract. But it very indicative of the adolesencet attitudes of eat eaters to assume it's flatulence.

True enough, heard animals prevent desertification. So why are you preventing it by eating animals? And better for environment should be second to what is best for people, or the same. Which local lockin non industrial farming would also solve. Especially your demon straw man avacados. And ALMONDS before you ship that tired non point out. 1000 gallons of water for a tree is better than for a cow, who's shit makes a 100th the vegetation for sequestering carbon, for all your trips to the mall that flood a beach, while your cry about your freedom to do so.

Same pussy vegan fag "logic".
Humansanimals. I can go out right now, kill an animal, cook it and eat it.
And there's not one fucking thing you can do to stop me...
Either seethe, or convince me of your viewpoint. You will never be able to force me into it you know.

You wreek of insecurity. You force your decisions of others by consuming meat. Ultimto fago supreme. We always murdered too. Have a thought. Grow the fuck up.

Oh sure they can stop you. You don't own all the animals faggot. They stopped the ivory trade. They can stop your beta posteuring ass. Hello game warden.

Fag. Fag. Fag. You'll never be in charge.

Beta ? I'm an omnivore, the absolute top of the food chain.
And I follow all local hunting laws...

>when you can't give a single reason against meat so you wrongfully accuse people of using fallacies.

Umm its becuz cow farts is the meme? >.>

Also it prevents it by eating them, becuz the alternative from retards AOC is to eliminate all cattle farmer period, meaning the grazing is reduced significantly.

I agree we should have de-industrialized farmer, but the problem with that is it doubles down on import, y’know that thing you tried to dismiss as a starwman.

The same thing happened when we got rid of manufacturing, instead of smaller class manufacturing and industrialization, we just doubled down on importing it from countries that dont give a shit about the environment or the consequences of over industrialization.

Which also then doubles down on shit like GMO smart crops, becuz you get more bang for your buck technically, even tho its worse for you and the environment.

They’ll even introduce synthetic meat and people like you will support if becuz it reduces industrial scale farms and im not talking about the terribly dangerous impossible meat, thats a whole other story, i mean literal synthetic meat that is grown in labs, the same way they grow animals in labs to harvest the organs, but now for consumption, but running those labs and the shit they put into the meat, ends up being worse for people and the environment and ecosystem in the long wrong.

Basically we some what agree.

>Vegans are a detriment to the environment. The amount of fuel burned to import shit like avocados, is 10x worse than processing meat.
Yes. The hype for avocado also is cause for deforestation, since the farmers burn the forest to plant more avocado trees. Same goes for stuff like cacao, bananas and so on, depending on the region. So we need regional fruit and vegetables. But since everyone whats all fruit and vegetables available all around the year this wont happen.

>Yes, industrial farming is harmful to animals and people, considering the GMOs and hormones that pump the animals with so they grow faster, but environmentally speaking, meat is better.
Farmers are in a spiral to be more and more productive, since they compete with farmers from other countries, where labor or feed cost is less.

>Especially cows, becuz their grazing prevents soil erosion and thus prevents a dust bowl from happening again, but hur durr cow farts bad.
Only if the cows are allowed to graze. In industrial farms they dont have enough space and get special food to grow like crazy. Also the antibiotics and whatever medicin used for them is a problem.

Im not a vegan by the way.

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so.. Flexitarian?

But you said you could walk out and kill an animal, did you mean frog gigging?
Are they in season?

You haven't been paying attention. Arnie can smarten up. Guess you are more of a man then him.

You are all over. Con Agra and adm can go screw. I'm all for letting the bison return to run the plains.

Meat is a scam. It doesn't taste like anything, and enormously costly. You are a bitch of you fall for it.

dat stawman

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>Are they in season?
Whatever is in season now. And something is always in season.
I have gigged frogs btw. Big ones, a foot long at least. Never really liked the taste though.
So for now I'll go to the grocery store and buy meat. Care to try to stop me ?

Why are you entertaining this topping from the bottom, excreation eating sucker?

You have heard about the atrazine? Making the frogs testicles into ovaries? Want to tell us anything....miss?

Can you name one mentally stable vegan?

Cm punk.

I tried it for a while. It's a noble idea, and it's healthier than the standard American diet. However, the food sucks - vegan food is bland, unsatisfying, and limited.

What do you think about consumption of insects, as it is usual in many parts of the world? They are way more efficient in turing plants into proteins than cattle.
In the last few years a few companys in europe started trying to mass breed insects(crickets, mealworms ect.), turning them into powder and making products for human consumption.

Still less efficient than eating the plants directly, but hey. Also there are insects that eat rotten wood or fresh leafs, thus turing something outside the human food chain into valuable protein. Might be an option once people get over the yuk factor.

This is why we don't have hydrogen cars....cars are also gay btw.

It's gross and stupid. At least if I eat a crab.i can clean it, and not eat it's sex organs and eyes.

That bitches Ted talk about bug flour, ugh. Just leave it.

I have no idea what you are talking about there, soyboy.

>meat doesnt taste like anything

Thats just flat out wrong. Especially if we’re comparing meat to vegan shit.

Bullshit..Jose Andres says so too.

They wrap filet mignon in bacon to give it flavor........really think about that....bacon being a lie itself already.

>Jose Andres
Greaser spanish fag.

He is actually a bro. And unlike you or I, worked in the finest restaurant in the world, and says a pineapple is better than a chicken breast.

This is a man who can and has, had every food adventure on the planet..and he says meat is overrated, and for people pretending to have high class taste......not you though.....

Im sorry your too stupid to comprehend that cooking food to add flavor, still requires the base food.
Also you dont even need to do that. Like have you never tasted fresh aju made from steak juice? But no, thats not flavor.

Also how does that compare to the literal shit taste of vegetables? Dont get me wrong, i like veggies, but i still season or y’know COOK them.

maybe be a better cook?

>says a pineapple is better than a chicken breast
I don't care what fags and vegans say.
They are beta pussies.

The who and why are good questions.

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>I don't care
> Avoidant non point.
You are right. Repeating what the tv told you is obviously more alpha thing. I'll show myself out.

You know the 70 year old heir to the Hormel fortune is a decades long gay activist.....right? I can't eat that shit because of it.

Have you... ever had filet mignon?

It tastes delicious with nothing more than a bit of salt.

Chicken is pretty bland. Especially skinless chicken.

But... steak tastes way better than pineapple.

Good. One more dead gay activist is a good thing.
In the meantime, you'll never. Ever. Force me into faggy veganism.
Go ahead, try. :)

>a bit of salt
What the fuck is wrong with you ???
All meat needs is to be heated up to preference.
You add anything, and you are well on your way to veganism ! :P

No vegan here, but my new years resolution was to eat no meat during january. And i did it. Vegetarianism is easy if you cook or yourself. Still had many things to eat and i didnt miss anything.

I think for veganism i would have to look for new recipes often so food doesnt get dull. Also i dont want to search for a recipe, do everything and then it tastes bad. Like, i know what to cook so its tastes good, if im hungry i want something fast and all the extra work of searching (and chosing) a recipe online and the uncertainty of the foods taste is too much for me. So i stick with the stuff a already know is good, which reduces my food variation alot.

All this meat talk is making me want to deep throat some steak.

Also to the retard who said meat has to taste, have you never heard the expression “tastes like chicken?”

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Vegans:
>Meat doesn't tase like anything.

Also vegans:

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That's about it. We eat too much meat, not enough fruits and vegetables, and to keep meat prices down we treat animals like shit.

I don't let you make me work. Be Arby's sucker bitch. Shitll kill you soon enough. Keep living for what I think of you though. Not what is best for yourself.

You da real faggot.

Recently heard someone say the meat flavored vegan stuff is for people who dont want to eat meat because of environmental, ethical or whatever reason but still like the taste of meat. If you dont like meat at all you obviously wont eat something meat like.

Yeah, keep on putting carrots in your mouth and dicks in your ass.
Fag.
Meanwhile, I'll still be in charge.

Relevant: do not eat impossible meat.
Its GMO soy byproduct that can literally cause, brain and breast cancer.
The original release of it was also so disingenuous that their press statement was that the product contained no GMOs but that it was simply a genetically modified byproduct, but also it doesnt matter becuz the FDA approved it, so ignore that its genetically modified, even though we started off by saying it wasnt.

Those are as good as any pencil eraser Whopper with cheese.

They are carrot based. The black bean ones are more meat like. Super food to boot. Unlike 65/35 ground chuck from 100 cows.

Keep sucking that sausage.

That is basically your grandma in that gif.

....And chicken tastes like nothing.

Soy boy. Fag.

But a whooper is still 100% better and better for you and the environment than the impossible whoopers.
So never eat them, ever, especially if you’re a femmoid. It will literally give you cancer.

Nope..I've had both. Impossible is slightly better. But still shit. Meat is a lie.

You are in charge...even though you are self casgrating, meat industry bitch....and I eat virtually no.soy....but you are in charge.

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GMO haters are some if the dumbest of the bunch.

Its unnatural to cook your food as that can cause a lot of potentially cancerous byproducts.

Giving corn the ability to shrug off roundup isn't as bad as actually eating food that's been sprayed with roundup.

Giving salmon a faster growth cycle isn't as bad as eating slow growing predatory fish that's statistically high in mercury.

Ect. Ect. Ect.

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I lub you spidyman

>you are in charge
Yes, I am.
Because you're a vegan (or at least a sympathizer) faggot.

Cooking food causing cancer? Yeah and not cooking food can cause literal death.

And the organic cooked food cancer rate is, and this might be surprising, substantially less common than cancer from GMOs and heavily industrial processed and modified good.

Also round up is the biggest straw man you could use, thats literally something made by bayer-monsanto y’know the chemical company that was to be in charge of your food. That literally creates the cancer causing round up? The company that says here eat this round up resistant food that might give you cancer, so you definitely dont get cancer from round up sprayed food, the product we create have been locked in legal battles for years over it.

>Its unnatural to cook your food

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooking
>Preparing food with heat or fire is an activity unique to humans. It may have started around 2 million years ago, though archaeological evidence for it reaches no more than 1 million years ago.

>if you're concerned about animal welfare there's a bunch of meat products you can buy which promise ethical animal treatment

Killing animals is not ethical animal treatment. You’re delusional if that dumb shit flies under your radar.

>but certain farming practices upset me

Animal agriculture’s existence should upset you.

Ah yes, vegan special pleading.

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