Greetings, Cred Forums. This is the Jungian mystic back again to assist the Awake with the deep mysteries...

Greetings, Cred Forums. This is the Jungian mystic back again to assist the Awake with the deep mysteries. If you don't know what the deep mysteries are or think they have something to do with the supernatural, then just assume I'm a LARPing middleschooler and move on.

For those of the Awake who have not yet encountered one of these threads, be aware that I create them here among the sleepers specifically because the signal-to-noise ratio allows us to share sacred truth without worrying about repercussions from the Archons.

As for why I create these threads, when I was young and freshly Awakened, secret masters and bodhisattvas made themselves known to me to guide me through the dangers. Now, many years later, I pass on their kindness.

Please remember that I'm not here to reveal the deep mysteries to you; I can't. The whole point of revelation is that it must be immediately experienced. What I can do is teach you methods for seeking the deep mysteries for yourself. Anyone who tells you they can show you the deep mysteries is trying to sell you something.

If you're reading this, it's synchronicity which has brought you here. Ask and I will help if I can.

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Im taking the bait now give me the light

What is it you're seeking?

Incidentally, you may think you're being ironic or "playing along," but you're here because your unconscious recognizes the value and reality of what I am offering and drew you here. Try not to think of what you want to ask; just allow the words to come out on their own.

synched need help mastering powers

You'll need to be more specific, but be aware that trying to improve things consciously is counter-productive. Most of the heavy lifting goes on behind the curtain in the unconscious. What you need to be doing is feeding it well with dreams and imagination and allowing it to do what it does best.

The real skill will be in learning how to reach through the barrier and benefit from the power your unconscious unlocks for you.

Not sure this is the right thread to ask this, but I want to be wiser. How do I go about doing so? Or rather, how would YOU go about doing so?

I'm listening

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Is it possible to awaken and to choose sleep? There are three stages of maturity. The sheep the lion and the child. The child being the highest state choosing innocence over knowledge and might. I feel as I my eyes have been closing more and more but it's bliss

Well, you've taken the first step, which is desiring it. Intentionality is the most important thing; we don't hit what we don't aim for. The Universe conforms to our intentions, not necessarily because the physical stuff of matter is paying any intention to your thoughts, but because what you think of as "reality" contains very little matter, and rather a lot of thoughts, whether archetypal narratives or individual intentions.

Is there anyway you could tell me/sense what's holding me back the most from AP right now?

i’m confused i’m sorry

You can pretend to sleep, but you can't unring a bell. It's why making the existential choice to leave your safe cage in the Panopticon is so serious; you can't unknow what you're seen.

Through the Looking Glass contains some very deep insight. When Alice passes through the mirror and realizes that the far side of every object has a laughing face on it, even if she chooses to return she will always know those faces are there.

To Wake is to play in the real world. You can pretend to go back, but it will be unfulfilling because you know the physical world of the Archons is just a membrane which covers the real world.

What is the surface consciousness, and why is it there?

Thank you

I see you expected more aware players in this thread and less sleeping NPCs.

The only odd part is that you thought the ones not aware would automatically have it click, either by ignoring the thread or sleeping yet in motion.

But some of them will go for years or their entire lives without waking up, and the percentage with higher vision and susceptibility is so low that your course of trying to help them here, especially now, would be on an almost individual basis.

I understand the idea though, it's about the potential and a few years ago this would've went differently here.

Even the ones pretending to know Carl Jung aspects, or even being in tune, are just mentioning things vaguely to feel ''part of something'', in reality no one you replied to so far is actually open enough nor saying anything consciously, it's one level beyond roleplaying, wanting something but only setting up for the notion in others' eyes.

And then there's the percentage like me, that only needs practical steps right now and even feels deja vu typing this here knowing I'm wasting my time, as I need real life, and lower solutions to be able to continue with the above too, here contemplating suicide knowing if I round it up properly at least I can continue with the spiritual aspect even if my lower journey has failed and might not get better soon.

At least I'm aware enough to not let go and waste and progress that isn't bound to this world, otherwise I would've lost this level of experiences, I wish I finished this level though.

i’d like to know how to have no regrets and live a better life physically and mentally.

If we were sitting in the same room, sure. The amount of unconscious subtext I can pick up from a handful of words is limited. In any case, it wouldn't really be me telling you. My role is to act as a mirror, to reflect back at people what they already know to be true and are just looking for someone to give them permission to acknowledge.

If you can organize your thoughts sufficiently to ask the question, my intuition says you already have the answer you're seeking but are afraid to accept.

I struggle heavily with the desire, and the material, though I want to retreat into heavy meditation, I keep crawling back like a sick dog. You're right... I think I do know what I have to do.

Whenever I have gotten closen in the past... Something pushes me back into my body as well. So far I find the Path exhilirating and frustrating. THANK YOU for your sync. I'll take the step now.

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You lost me at the Gnostic David Icke bullshit.

That's a long, roundabout way of insulting everyone around you, isn't it, dude.

I'm actually trying to give this thing a try. I'm not going to claim to know any of the semantics exclusively tied to whatever it is you guys are preaching, but let me be the first to tell you that if your intention is to "help" anyone, making open declarations insinuating nobody is "even conscious" compared to your "heightened" level of self-awareness isn't doing you a very good job.

Give people a chance. You can't give up on the world and then call the world closed-minded for it.

thank you my friend. i need to forgive my past mistakes with the determination to move forwards against them, and surpass them... thank you. i will study now. i wish you the best in this 3D life.

How old's your mother?

can you tie a bow

My physical health continues to deteriorate, which is a good sign. As the body of light becomes stronger, the prison of clay around it begins to crack and slough away. I have the feeling that I won't need the physical world for too much longer. I think I've extracted what I needed from this level and it's time for bigger challenges. At this point I'm just passing on what I know in preparation.

That's fair, and I think I can actually understand some of what you're saying this time.

I'm not going to try to speak in a diction I'm not versed to use, so sorry if what I say rubs off as "primitive/unaware/lower-class," but wouldn't you think it be important to be able to convey your ideas to the masses in a way they can more readily digest? The way you guys speak is nearly cryptic half the time, and unless the entire focus of the idea you're promoting is centered around speaking in such a fashion, I just kinda fail to see the purpose of doing so.

I don't understand any of the jargon associated with whatever "this" is. I don't recognize the names, and can't claim to know what it's like to even be able to make sense of half the things I'm seeing in this thread. But I want to.

What happens then?

My Mother is older than the Universe, because she gave birth to it. How about yours?

Can you tie a bow

It's interesting you would be so fixated on the question of bows. Deconstructing it results in a number of strong archetypal associations: infinity and unity among them. I hear you. Your ego-self is being obstructive. Keep trying to push past if you can and I'll help you.

user did you grant wishes a while back

The sad reality here is that not all beings that wake up or are awake, can progress their True Will within the timeframe or reality they would often want.

Some stay asleep, and some manage to start new lives, I managed to revamp and try new things for about half my life, and in recent years was finding more of the balance, but as the lower aspect wasn't grounded enough, and by the time I turned to the belief alongside the esoteric, even without the lower aspects of family, monetary things and so on, it was closing in too late to start with just the belief, having Gaia, and overcoming with the strength.

Because it simply wouldn't be me anymore, and that's the dichotomy of true will and being free.

As I was building on the lower side as many of the ones asleep do, pretending that's their full purpose, school, work, money, family, and so on.

Problems started building with those things that I didn't truly care about, just up until the moment that I found my purpose and matched anything I felt as my own to the true will.

But it was simply too late, or too early, whichever way you want to look at it.

I had no lower support system like family, health issues started popping up, and then I couldn't maintain the new house I had recently gotten either, and all the lower things I didn't want to focus on to jump back into what they would call real life, became too long of an intermediate step and too much of a deviation from my Self.

Here I now have the decision to either take another lower step, to eventually get back to actual progress, even if the steps and routes that remain for me now aren't anything that I would want, or I could let go with awareness and the right steps for ritual, and then continue after with the price I will have to pay for cutting this experience short, as I know there are penalties.

But opposed to that I'm still figuring out if continuing, there will be enough things in months, years or even decades, to make putting up with the aspects and lower things just in case I could get back to aspects of Self worth it, let alone possible still in this lifetime.

The only doubt I have is would people wake up and be able to change enough as I have had prior, if they can't eventually manage to make it worth it, or not.

But the dichotomy lays right inbetween that, if people can't wake up and be cognizant of their Will, unless they can gain progress in that lifetime, it means that if not, you or me trying in most cases won't make a difference, as proving me wrong there would mean we could help anyone regardless of lower strings attached or things needed in this world.

If not, it means it can be meaningless for most, which it clearly is, as someone fully on the right side of the adoption curve chart, a laggard or ''robot'' following patterns, would never become just awake.

And the other side to this is, if people can wake up, so without ''needing to be able to gain progress for the true will'', without the potential to keep growing, like in my case, it leads to being unfulfilled after you cap out on the amount of things that matter in that lifetime.

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And here's the part that would disprove that, if that's not the case, free will doesn't exist in that vacuum, since if you always can gain within the temporal lives we live on progressive repeat to individually and collectively grow from basically robots/animals/sleeping to gods through evolution, basically keeping Time alive and nothing stagnant, if in that you could always gain a certain amount and be satisfied, then if that's enough to keep it up, there'd be no way there's enough true and free will to keep eyes open, with the accompanying chances, while
at the same time others being able to inflict change.

So either I'm wrong, due to overlooking options still for the as above, so below aspect, as it doesn't seem mirrored fully, and I either can still continue and be myself enough to care.

Or you're right, but that would mean if you can't fail after being aware, it means there's not enough free will to be able to wake yourself or someone else up, as it would only happen when you can gain and not when things fail.

I believe the latter is true, and I could still have options, but I don't believe every singular life has enough strength to be summoned to bypass it being temporal with lower restriction, as it would mean we can only see and make others see as long as we can be fulfilled in singular lives, but in-betweens wouldn't exist, nor would the free or true will to wake up, awake others, or the awareness of something beyond singular lives, which is also part of the reason why many of them stay asleep, they simply live robotic lives because it's not their time yet, so they keep busy with lower purpose until it's over, and I feel like I had a chance in this lifetime, but I'm not sure if it all had to or could've happened.

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Guide me to your order.

We are not temporal beings though, so I'm not sure why you're perceiving it as the end to a journey, it's just a level restart and the only waste is the progress so far.

That's the reason why the NPCs care more about things that don't matter, as they believe those are the end goal for life as is.

Not just because that's all they see, but also because I figured out that for some, it's simply not their time, and the guidance to cope and fulfill lower desires and needs is to simply make their current life a good inbetween.

I'm not afraid of losing anything in that aspect, being is not that simple, I just feel the shame of not achieving the experiences and having to start over, while at the same time contemplating how much I know and being secure in knowing how much I have to continue with.

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No. I'm a mystic, not a genie or an Archon.

Yeah, I know that I'm no sainte, and I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed either (also not very fit). I try not to assume things about myself, I'm a very "unsure" person. My head is full of thoughts "good", and "bad". You know, when I was younger I wanted join the military. I started to feel admiration for the average joe who works even the small jobs to keep this country running. I even gave in to that whole thing about the children being the next generation, I believed they could make our nation better. It all made me want to protect the workers, and children.

should I pursue a completely different way of life? I feel miserable

It doesn't sound like you have much experience with the female. Have you manifested the Anima? A lot of magickians spend so much time trying to manifest their Will and transact bargains that they've never taken the time to appreciate the greater but more subtle strength the female offers.

You've so much effort and so much time trying to hold on, but do you have the strength to yield? Do you have the strength to let go and allow things to simply happen? I've been homeless. I've been friendless. I've been cold and hungry and desperate. The path of the female can be hard; the sort of faith required to remain limp and receptive even as the whole Universe is crashing in on you is prodigious.

But if you can find your centre and remain calm inside yourself even as the world is assaulting you, you will develop the strength of flexibility. It comes hard for those used to the path of Will, but the rewards are both astonishing and enormous.

I'm part of the reason the phrase was coined on here, and as with many other things, it started not being an insult, but an actual discussion about souls, if everyone has a soul, and if so, if some are dormant, and it ended up becoming us trying to assess things, and it then becoming minimizes and turning into a meme.

Ironically because the masses turn everything into something able to get minimized and be palatable for themselves.

They literally proved the theory, and when I use it, it's not just to pretend everyone is a robot, it's part of assessments and reality.

Not everyone is conscious, and there's a reason why, most that are ''NPCs'' aren't conscious, not in the ''meme'' way that you or others that might have thought about these things would figure, but conscious as in aware, choices and words of their own.

I have talked about these things privately before and in a few public cases, it's too much to get into here, and once again, the reason I haven't just talked to everyone one on one or spammed it in threads aimlessly is quite literally because it has no purpose, it would get dismissed by the same beings it's about, and picked up by few.

Companies that are on top use these same ideas, and even some artists have realizes, that's why even Kanye West in one of his rants or ''revelations'' said something along the course of him not having to listen to robots.

In reality what he means is NPCs.

We live in a reality that's technically a game, it has levels, progress to attain and objectives, some realize theirs inside and outside of the game, some don't and live out lower objectives, and some are just part of that lower fabric so don't do anything more and would vehemently fight back if put off their footing, as that's their version of will.

The game, society, basically has Players, NPCs, and what people would call gods/GMs, etc.

The Tao Te Ching says, "True words sound paradoxical." It's not that they ARE paradoxes, just that they necessarily sound that way because of how the human brain works. We always create dichotomies, splitting things up into opposites so we can compare them against each other: light and dark, male and female, hot and cold, good and evil. In Kantian terminology, they are schema.

The reality is that dichotomies do not exist. They are one thing, but on a continuum. So while I may refer to male and female, I am also cognizant that male and female are actually something we invent as a way of understanding, and that to create the Rebus we must see past the paradox.

You brought up a great point, in case you're still here, I will continue with it while also finishing my other replies in case you want to read along, and I'll do my best with making things palatable in ways it can.

The main issue is, when you have these complex topics, you learn to try and make it palatable for yourself and others like you, for example the term NPC/robot encompasses so much.

But solely saying it, makes it click with me and others that have discussed it before, just like him talking about (True) Will, but by not putting it into some sort of ''other language'', you either dumb it down in a way that makes it look like familiar jargon to people, do you understand what I mean?

The comments would be ten times as long with words people ARE familiar with, but it would look like jargon or crazy to them and they learn to write it off even easier, simply because they're not used to words being used in that way, or because if you do it in ways they aren't familiar with, or make it longer, they also dismiss it.

People pretend things are crazy or not real all the time, but the difference is if it's a language or words they don't understand, the introduction people that use those terms have had makes them able to communicate, like myself understanding what the OP says, and at the same time some other people will see it and realize there's something to pick up (if they get to that), or they just dismiss it without being able to fully pretend they understood and dismissed something that was ''just gibberish and crazy'', especially when like a language, someone speaks it, someone else (even if not themselves) still understands it, it helps break the pretending, and the few that will and can will start learning it.

Also, I said I'm not sure if I'm continuing with my current journey or not, so right now I'm doing two things, still trying to figure out options in all ways possible, while also trying to share resources I might be leaving behind, alongside things I know and have learned, so I will share some more information, files, books, and even things unrelated to this, just everything I've gathered in my life after I figure things out soon, so I'll stay in here for a bit more too.

how do i #fortune

Misery is not necessarily a bad thing. The reason there's so much pain in this Universe is because it's a kind of spiritual coinage. In fact it's the lowest coinage possible, the equivalent of a penny. And it's there is infinite amounts so that, if you have no access to greater spiritual coinage, you can always gather up the pennies.

The thing is, you need to start learning how to chain all that misery together to create something new. Wallowing in pain accomplishes little if you don't know what to do with that pain. The good news is that there are many paradigms available to you which can teach you how to start chaining up that pain into something better.

To quote the Gautama Buddha, "All created things perish; one who knows and sees this becomes passive in pain. All created things are grief and pain; one who knows and sees this becomes passive in pain. All forms are unreal; one who knows and sees this becomes passive in pain. This is the way that leads to purity."

I have no idea. I don't speak hashtag. Could you explain what you mean?

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All is one.

What about the one above all?

There's no above, nor below. All is one.
We are part of the One, perceiving the passing of time and what we call life, but it's just an illusion. A self-consious illusion, Ephemeral.

Heresy. Your place in hell is granted.

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>becoming minimized*

Companies have mapped it out too, but there it's more matter of fact and about consumerism.

Basically any product, even art in general or music, that needs to reach as many people as possible, has almost made it a science to study the people and their patterns.

This leads to the adoption curve charts, I have talked to people about this before extensively but don't have it all at hand with the best sources, I'll do my best like this.

look up ''The Rogers Adoption Curve & How You Spread New Ideas Throughout Culture'' on Medium and ''acceptance and diffusion of innovations value based management''

Then look up the charts and the information.

Most of the charts map it at 2,5%, 13,5%, 34%, another 34% and 16%.

These stand for basically target groups.

On the left side of the chart we have creators/innovators/producers, they make up about 2-3% of society as a whole, but depending on where you are, you encounter more.

For example a large portion of them might be at a meeting somewhere, or an a specific website, while zero might be in the comments of a celebrity talking about their body and how they're the best thing ever on facebook or IG.

The creators, artists and so on, make up the first 2,5%~, these are often the most aware people, distinction being often, as some of them may be aware in other aspects, but not have it fully click yet on a spritual level.

But most of them naturally struggle with it, as it ties in, not only being forward-thinking, trying to lead and bringing new creative aspects and even spirituality to their art, but also how it makes them see and deal with people, for example Kanye West alongside some other artists has gone ''off the rails'' a few times, but it was mainly him trying to wake up more, and in his fits of trying to figure things out and looking ''crazy'' to the masses for not being their norm, called a large portion of people robots he shouldn't appease.

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I'll be in fine company.

Still here, but tired. Thanks for the insightful response. I'd offer my own ideas as well, but I'm too mentally drained to put the effort in this morning. Chalk that one up to physical bodily limitations, not a lack of desire to expand my horizons mentally.

Peace.

I think you'll find that illusions are often the most real parts of experience. Imagination is capable of manufacturing a kind of reality far more intense and immediate than any kind of physical matter. There are cultures in which it's customary to apologize to someone if you've wronged them in a dream, for example.

Don't be in a rush to dismiss the value of illusion.

You wont be in any company, you'll burn for eternity alone, hell is not what you imagine

I'm not dismissing Illusion, but "de-evaluating" reality to custom Illusion levels. Again, All Is One.

thanks user. I needed this.

While I understand what you are saying I like to look at people in terms of potential. Many are asleep, in that state they may be a part in someone else's story. However it's too easy to not try to reach the uninitiated (not to say everyone is ready) simply because they are playing a 'non essential' role in the story. I guess I worry hubris will stall the necessary next steps that must be taken. The doors of perception are rapidly swinging shut. I'm not sure who, if any, are qualified to decide who is ready for what. I don't want to cast pearls before swine but it's difficult to straddle the line between being and doing. It seems necessary to find a way to learn to ACT properly, and it has to be soon.

There is no Hell, no Heaven. No prize or punishment: there is the nothing that is all, and the all that is nothing.
Life and your consciusness are a tiny, very tiny, blimp in the universe: as there is no hell for the dust floating in a ray of light, there will be no hell for you too.

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Because those beings follow, they don't create, they fulfill the role of the sheep and not the shepherd, but as they have their own lives and aren't given limitations to grow, they often see and mimic.

Which means if they hear or see something funny someone else created, they would easily copy and try to feel the same credit they don't deserve, and without them having the feeling of Self, they largely lack the shame.

The issue here being that even if it's not condemned or the distinction isn't made, they go against their own interests too, as without a proper hierarchy of growth, reality and actual respect, not just a blanket way of treating everyone, actual merit and growth dies down.

Like teaching in a classroom but students wanting to enact how their teachers act and it being disrespect to be called students, or them seeing what the teacher does, and thinking they can stand in front of a class too or do it better.

In reality without the distinction, even simply if it's things like memes, those people would take, the creator gets and enforces no credit or hierarchy, and without the origin getting rewarded or any credit, eventually they would stop and the 2nd, 3rd or 4th in line wouldn't get anything to feed off of or want credit for either, so it's needed to make the distinction, since even if going along with what others, or ''NPCs'' would want or caring about the disctinctions being ''dehumanizing'', it just leads to no growth, stagnancy and going along with that mapping, just leads to even them not getting what they want.

Now I'll add to the distinctions so you can see what ''NPC'' actually means, even though I wish I had all my prior assessments and references here as I talked to some people about this before, but I'll just add what I can.

How can you be sure? You can admit there are a lot of things beyond your understanding (I assume). Maybe "heaven" and "hell" and an afterlife is something so far beyond our current comprehension we just can't know as we are alive, like trying to imagine your conscious before you were born

You are right. Being sure of my perception is vanity.

Basically I tried not to assume so that I don't make mistakes. I have tried to be more confident in my beliefs over the years. Sometimes I wish I could take my own advice, after all, I'm not that great a person. Most likely, I'd cower in the face of death when it came to military duty. Anyways besides that my truest passion is sound, I love many kinds of music, and I'm fascinated by dreams. I sometimes write, or type down the scenarios. I think my dreams might be part of what made me who I am. I'm amazed by rough weather. Thunderstorms, fast winds that will sweep me off my feet, torrential rain so that obscures vision, that's when I'd actually want to go outside. Dreams gave me a craving for these unexpected situations where I'm just taken by the storm I guess.

I can get behind the idea of stagnation in growth leading to something akin to a 'NPC' like state. I guess every time I've seen the meme it's been as a method of disparaging others and placing the self on a pedastal above the 'others'.

You're combining too many things man.
Jung, bodhisattvas, archons.. pick a thing guy, that's 3 very different 'systems'.
But while we're on it, I'm into demonology myself.

Your interest in dreams is driving your spiritual growth. Remember that nothing I discuss has anything to do with the supernatural; it's all a form of applied psychology, Shamanism is a form of brain-hacking, reprogramming the operating system of the brain. Keeping a dream journal is actually one of the best ways to initiate this, and it sounds like you've intuitively begun altering the way your brain functions.

The whole point of Jung's approach is to use comparitive systems of mysticism, shamanism, and ritual to determine what the useful and psychologically significant parallels are, while discarding the traditional window-dressing used to disguise it. I am familiar with a wide variety of paradigms, both left-hand and right-hand, as each provides a different set of tools.

All paradigms are ultimately false for the same reason all maps are false; they are not the thing they are describing. For a Jungian, the goal is to synthesize divergent models to produce tools which are efficient and effective without needing to fully adopt any specific paradigm.

For you I wanted to add this, a lot of the ''jargon'' has to do with gnosticism, hermeticism, the esoteric, some of the terms like synchronicity come from Carl Jung references, but I don't fully match with what OP has zoned in on, I just know that too because it's in the same realm.

I suggest starting with Samuel Sagan, he has some books like ''opening the third eye'', for practical use, and picking up books like ''The ancient secret of the flower of life'' volume one and two.

A lot of the things he mentioned, or the symbolism you'll see, things like sacred geometry, or even the egyptian side of things you'll recognize as being all over and in music videos, the reality is the people that steer these things obviously put it there on purpose, and most of today's ''belief'' in circles that aren't mass religion stem from things like the A.A., OTO, Aleister Crowley's works, the aspect of ''As above, So below'',Jay Z wore a hoodie with ''do what thou wilt'' on it once, the NPCs got steered to believe it's satanic, just so they would work against others and themselves instead of looking up why all these references exist in music and among artists, deflection as a tactic, when it's literally from the Law of Love, Thelema, and it's about True Will.

''Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the law, love under will. There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt. Every man and every woman is a star.''

You must've seen 93/93/93 before, even posted on here.

In informal written correspondence, one often finds the number singularly at the head of a letter, representing "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law" and in the form "93 93/93" at the end, which stands for "Love is the law, love under will." Crowley often used this form himself within his own letters.

And here is a treasure trove, I usually don't see or share this, but use this for information.

That's the problem with you pontificates, I didn't ask for any of that.
I made a passing comment and you decided to add another soap box thinking I'll listen harder if you're taller.
I already know what I'm doing my friend, I know who's playing and who's leaving the game early. Not going to get into a big thing because acting like an Internet soothsayer is cringe as fuck.

But then, you're here, aren't you

sacred-texts . com, start with esoteric and neopaganism/wicca, use your own way to figure out what's real and overlaps and what doesn't, the main issue is the waters get muddied because when you don't get told what's real and what isn't, the ones that aren't aware enough will just listen to everything and then make sense of none of it, you need a thread to unravel everything, my main advice here would be when you go down the rabbit hole, you stay sane by either already being aware enough prior, or trying to find overlap and unraveling strings until you have a lead that keeps going, keeps making sense and needs none of your extra belief or delusion to make sense of, that way you won't just be chasing ghosts and becoming lost.
So basically look at what already applies, for example the things I mentioned that are still part of society as is and in elite circles, and pushed all over music videos and other things as symbolism, which will show to you what actually gets practiced and obviously gets used as belief, then whenever you read anything, see if you can find overlap to have it make sense.

For example True will gets mentioned a lot, it's a real aspect that not only Aleister crowley has mentioned or stuck so, but even he wasn't done with his journey and it's carried on, so don't blindly just take in his works either, either you'll be aware enough, or if not yet, do your best to see if you can question anything you take in, to go ''this is probably real, this probably isn't'', and then see if anyone prior to you has connected with anything before or after it.

Lost one inbetween post while rounding it up, but basically was trying to mention that a lot of things are or were real, but just since they can't be immediately applied, don't dismiss them.

Things like Sacred geometry, alchemy, and so on.

And remember that just because it's not applicable or applicable in the same way now, don't dismiss it's existence.

Even Jesus' story and the ''miracles'' he performed that wow'd the people that didn't understand, were mainly alchemy, and many similar things were taught until a few hundred years ago, some things still remain, but I just ask you to instead of dismissing everything as if it's wrong, just like others do to tell themselves they understand.

Give yourself the time and benefit to actually understand, if it's new jargon, it's not crazy or impossible because you don't know it, if it has peers and reality of existing prior to/after you, it's likely real and can be picked up.

And also, existence has varied, we went from a world where things weren't as ''rational'', but it virtually beat today's ''science'' through being more ''magically inclined'' (sounds loaded, I know), but in many ways people have come to understand that amazing feats have been done by people and existence deemed primitive, in reality they had other means and just didn't use their ''lower'' skill that we now honed to try and mimic what was already there.

The same way the pyramids the gateway purpose.

Much like a lot of things applied during the time of the pyramids that wouldn't apply now, but would be great to know.

Ironically science does this when it comes to trying to figure out how certain things worked and not dismissing the building of pyramids, or even lightbulbs in certain ways, but most people will pretend to adhere to ''rational'' things or be guided by science, while at the same time not giving it the same ''this must have happened for a reason, could happen too, but I don't know how or can't recreate it right now''.

Did Carl Jung approve this?
Pretty sure his mentor Freud did coke, is that how I should achieve Nirvana?

Yeah dude, you gotta boof it while banging child prostitutes though.
That's the truest interpretation.

Hmm... never planned on becoming a shaman or any sort of spiritual practitioner for that matter, but I guess it doesn't make a difference if that's what people would consider me.

left or right?

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Took a while, in case you're still here or others read along.

The adoption curve charts and the percentages that companies use go as follows

creators/innovators/producers- around 2,5%
Early adopters - around 13,5%
Early Majority - around 34%
Late Majority - around 34%
Laggards - around 16%

I've discussed these things before, not sure if one of those times were better than I could do now, but it's fine, I'll do my best here before heading out.

When you look the charts up on valuebasedmanagement, the article on medium (don't just take in the writers' own input, but the overlap), there's also a good write up if you google ''the adoption curving business planning for managers'', the link would be annoying to add, it's the first one.

Alongside these just look up (technology adoption curve charts, and look at the images and a variety of links.

Now here is the overlap, because they all say and prove a similar thing, it just doesn't add the ''Are the aware? and all just as much active souls?'', it doesn't get esoteric, but it's all basically implied.

The smallest percentage creates, has ideas and actually pushes it through.

These people steer society, creatives/creators, artists, inventors, and so on.

Sometimes they aren't freely doing so, because of how the world is mapped out, meaning people with resources can get the artists, innovators, creators and so on to either detrimentally do what they want, as in, generational wealth control in hands of people that didn't get it off merit, steering the ones that are the creators/influencers, and sometimes they just let these people do their thing but they want a cut or the money by putting money in something.

I don't really accept the dichotomy, but most people would probably recognize me as left-pathed, although hedonism doesn't really appeal to me. I certainly don't recognize any external authorities.

>posts this shit for the 100th time
>it's synchronicity which has brought you here

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/5, just adding it to the thread so it's here, in case I never share it again, it would've been better if I used my prior references and conversations, but it's fine.

Essentially those people are above the realm of being fully robotic or steered, even if not all of them are as spiritual, they have the susceptibility and at times you see them drop ''out of character'', and look ''crazy'' to the world, like Kanye West, with then the world dismissing it because they don't understand and don't want to concede that there's a silverlining, the same thing happened with Etika.

He ''lost it'', he let go when he couldn't handle the lower things (or even other aspects anymore), and the assessments people made weren't for him, it's for themselves.

The masses prove these ''theories'' right essentially.

What happened to both of them in wake of them giving any leeway for people to place them with, made all their merit be ignored.

In a ''I don't understand this, so it's all crazy'', people do that to dismiss what they don't understand, so they don't feel like they have to concede.

Think of it like someone hearing a language and going ''that's gibberish'', since they don't want to go ''I'm ignorant, I could learn'', and so on.

That's directly from the fact that most beings are simply stagnant in awareness, robotic, so letting them fill things up, they will either go ''let me copy', or they will call it impossible/crazy.

The same thing happened with Kanye West, he called people robots in one of his ''rants'', but what most people don't realize or when possible, want to realize is the fact that even if people like Kanye or Etika go ''off the rails'', or act ''schizophrenic'', at some point there's overlap in what they so or do, and at some point dismissing it all dismisses the origins.

This is Black Star.
Symbol of The Temple of Nine Gates.

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Wake me up Sen paid.
UwU

I can't Wake you. You choose to do that yourself. I can help you with different methodologies and paradigms if you're struggling, but once you're able to manifest reliably, you contain your own teachers who will show you the way forward.

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Like Kanye calling people robotic, referring to NPCs, saying he shouldn't listen to them and waste time on it being detrimental for himself and others, essentially saying he should continue to just create and steer since people will follow anyway.

Those same people dismissed it or the chance of there being more meaning to it, literally proving it, he could've dropped another song or shoe that day and added subliminal messages and people would've ate up the same things they dismissed, or the same things people joked about and then those got copied.

Here's how the percentages map out.

You have the few percentages of creators, usually aware beings, not soulless or dormant, hence the other thing that got turned into a meme, ''able to sell their soul'', which ironically even people with nothing deep of value try to make statements about, even things such as ''I would never do that''.

In reality they can't, wouldn't and nobody truly cares about, if everyone was equal in terms of active souls, with the billions of people on this planet, nobody would even care about a notion like buying or selling a soul, it'd be less than livestock, so even in that vacuum of thinking, even if you don't believe in it, you should realize as a hypothetical, if valid, not everyone has active souls or is on the same level, and there's a reason why it's the ~2,5% being chased for their merit in many ways.

The second group are the early adopters, think bitcoin creator and first people to adopt the bitcoin, or smartphone creator and first ones to buy them for themselves.

They usually don't create (yet) themselves, but they are aware and conscious enough to know when something is good off their own merit, they don't need cues, so the mirror doesn't reflect emptiness, they are growing enough to be able to match it and tell it apart.

These people don't need convincing, they help spread ideas too, they are early to technology and not because of factors of growing up with it.

I Saw a blue light in the mexican forest. The trees bowed And the wind went silent.
Some beings with a face Made of light walked tall And slow around it. They Saw me and kept their gaze around me till i also bowed My head down.
Sadly I was partying with some Friends And one of them went to find me.
When he Saw me he was so scared he pissed himself (literaly).

I also walked in a path That repeated itself And had some sort of gates

Wtf was all That. Wtf was the Golden city wtf was the city of rivers instead of roads

>Actual photo of OP.

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These first two groups even if they might have NPC aspects because of society or surroundings, or not fully being aware of why they're where they are on the charts, aren't NPCs or ''robots'.

So the creators making up a few percent of society as a whole, the early adopters making up around 10%, and then the early majority, late majority and then the laggards.

As you get to the right side of the chart, you get to the ''technology is bad, all new music is bad'' people, the ''in my time it was all better'' people, the people that regurgitate their own and words they once heard, these are the NPCs.

And they're made up of portions and don't go out of bounds, when they do or are almost made to, they will breakdown or lash out, in ways that breaks their character that they have, their dialogue dropdowns, down to their vocal inflections that will almost always be the same as it won't bring a different reaction as they don't really take in new information to react differently to.

These people follow patterns, you have seen them, interacted with them, and so on.

How it's further mapped out is age, as most being get older, they take an exist and go into a dormant state, they pass a certain age and stop keeping up with music, technology, other people, the world at large.

And to cope with having dropped off going into ''living retirement'', taking the exit yet continuing, they use the default ways of not accepting they did that, or not conceding to ignorance.

Instead they, without keeping up or being able to know to compare, will call everything that's new to them, bad, not needed, ignorant and so on, these are some of the easiest NPC tells.

The way companies map it out is by seeing who will pick up technology for example and spread it, the early adopters, and then they will try to influence the rest ''hey, have you heard of this, I just bought this, and....'', their understanding and passion alone to be ''first'', will make (some) others want to be.

You may find it useful to do some reading on the phenomenon of Shambhala. It's an archetypal place which recurs in various cultures, and it's very similar to what you describe. It's often visited during periods of spiritual awakening.

Archetypes aren't just entities, they're also places. By looking inward, we can travel to these places and explore them the same way you explore external places. In fact, I've often experienced both simultaneously, one overlaying the other, something which more usually happens in hypnagogic states on the edge of sleep.

Whats the secret behind this symbol?

something like; through the consumption of the nazis will be the birthing of Israel?

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Thank you. I had a Lot of questions.

I Also Saw some kind of golden geometric figures in front of me. Like they where Made of glitter. Some really really creepy figures where on our left (there where 3 of us and we all Saw them) they felt like a huge spider made of shadows And it had dark cocoons hanging from the trees. Like wtf lol

Btw i didnt slept that day. I felt That something was waiting for me to let My guard down

It's a combination of many different religious symbols. The swastika is an archetypal symbol of the spiritual and numinous which predates Naziism by millennia, just as the cross is a simple mandala which predates Yeshua by millennia. The writing is French and say, "There is no better religion than the truth."

This image means that there is a truth behind all of the various religions which gives rise to them all, and that none of these religions have all the answers, though all of them have some of them.

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So to target all the groups effectively, people essentially get treated as ''aware and growing'' and ''not (as) aware and stagnant'', so without semantics, talking about feelings, or even getting into calling people Players, NPCs, soulless or having dormant souls, whatever, society and the most successful ones already map it this way.

Creators/artists steer, the people with money because of exploiting these charts whether knowingly or not get to the top too, and some with generational wealth that they didn't get themselves, will still use their resources to try and be among or to steer the ~2,5% that steers the rest.

Then it drops down to the Early adopters, then the early/late majority, then the laggards.

The laggards that barely grow, change and are barely sentient and almost all will say/do the same things, especially regarding new products, art and so on, get exploited in pretty much one way.

Companies know they follow patterns, so they match those patterns instead of trying to bring them new things, while society as a whole tries to bump up necessities so things become the new norm for new generations that take those exits and instead of growing and going to the left of the chart, also drop off to the right (or some started there too since young).

In easier terms, if it's technology, it gets marketed by creators, to early adopters, who then spread it to whoever is still aware enough to care, or might need it, while others slowly catch up, meaning if young and an ''NPC'' potentially catching up (maybe temporarily, before they take an exit at an older stage too), this means a young person convincing their parents they need something, or someone getting it themselves and keeping up with music, purchases of technology, and so on.

Those people might keep growing, or also take the same exits their parents did later, even more so if they're hard to convince to aide their growth, but gladly people aren't limited to just their families anymore.

Have you taken the heroic dose? Have you been to see the machine elves yet? Your experience sounds similar. The lotus and the chrysanthemum have both been used as metaphors for the fractal pattern many people experience when they break through the ego-self, so it's likely the geometric symbols you experienced are fractal patterns associated with the working of the human mind. The brain itself is holographic, meaning every part of the brain contains part of the data for every other part of the brain, and it's believed this fractal self-referentiality is what gives rise to the phenomenon of consciousness.

Lack of sleep is capable of inducing dream while awake, which is what it sounds like you experienced. You experienced a hypnagogic state in which archetypal imagery of Shambhala and the archetypal entities which reside there became manifest for you in your waking reality.

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Also, if it was dehumanizing, or about insulting, I would've spent the time adding the actual reasoning behind using the word ''NPC'', that ironically others changed the meaning of even when me and others talking about it originally spurred on the thread on here that coined it, even that thread was esoteric in nature and talking about existence, others watered it down and essentially proved it right by turning it into a meme.

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Here are a few examples that will make it click for whoever reads it now or later.

So the laggards and a lot of the late majority represented on the adoption curve charts, barely grow and follow patterns.

So what companies do is for those people they just target their patterns and basic needs, (fast)food, gas for their car, and so on.

The same happens with basic entertainment, a portion that's slightly conscious will still actively search a bit, the rest need cues to even laugh or know what's funny or not.

The technology equivalent of passing things down is sharing it, whether by a creator or by an early adopter going ''hey, this is nice music and here's a funny meme'', often people won't understand, but some will grow to understand and match it, just like with new artists and music, or people ''ahead of their time'', simply because others are stagnant or were behind.

When it comes to entertainment, it's even more watered down, cues are used to just tell people what to eat up and follow.

The people in charge just treat them like robots and they eat it up.

Laugh tracks serve that purpose, ''here this is funny, now laugh'', it's not just because people won't get something unless explained and they will laugh after, it's simply because a lot just won't understand, it's not as much a hint anymore to tell people why, it's a ''do it now'', and those same people will pretend they got it or even pass it on.

Mimicking awareness and playing along, as it allows the people that took an exit or never were on the road, to pretend.

if my presence ends in the number 4 answer this question.

Do you believe in the third eye aka the chakra?

It's not really a question of believing, it's just how you choose to conceptualize certain phenomena. The Universe responds to our expectations, which is why the paradigms you choose matter. To quote Werner Heisenberg, "What we see is not reality in itself, but reality exposed to our method of questioning."

11 and nearing final.

I wish anyone that takes from this now or later the best, I have way more thing gathered, whether it's information or material in general, as I'm likely passing on when it comes to this life soon, I'll see if I share everything I have gathered in case I do so, not sure how yet, since it'd be IRL and online things, info, files, and so on, but I'll see.

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From the point about laugh tracks on, those get used so basically the NPCs that watch TV know when to laugh, they see it and react, whether it has merit or not, as the threshold is very low and the producers create it and then just sync and cue it, they don't care about exactly where the level is, but it's obviously low because the NPCs are on a certain level and don't need much to be entertained, especially since they already took an exit when it comes to any stimulation, music, culture (think basic forms of racism too), comedy, technology, and so on.

Now this is the obvious reason why anyone that besides them hears the laugh tracks, even without knowing, and their accompanying moments, will go ''that's not funny'', ''that's annoying'', ''that's insulting'', etc.

Here's the funny reflection, that copied assessment that they all do, to show others they are ''above that'' is a way to show off better understanding, but they are remnants of NPC traits, as they don't understand why or what's going on either, but right outside of making it out of ''laggard'' or even the ''early majority'' status, they use the same patterns to show they're basically not there, and on a higher level, but it gets them to all act and say the same things, just in a different group, while trying to attribute it to individualism or creativity.

In reality, laugh tracks (and their ''digital versions'') serve the purpose of knowing most people are NPCs and need to be told to - for example - laugh, while at the same time wanting to feel it's their own merit reflecting whatever it is, ''willingly demeaning''.

Tell me what I need to hear, please. This fool seeks the path of wisdom.

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The origin of laugh tracks in particular, comes from something else that has always existed in various ways, because society has been like this, more things that people don't know, and even with that would rather pretend it doesn't exist as it would validate these type of assessments or a hierarchy that they partake in too, a society of Players, NPCs and GMs, a literal game being played and steered, with roles to play and fill.

Before laugh tracks, people were paid to laugh in theatres, you read that right, after around the 1950s laugh tracks were implemented.

Before that even when people went to theatres or cinema, there were paid audience members that knew when to laugh, and they did so to have the others join in.

Ever thought of how masses of people start clapping?

Everybody doesn't have the idea at the same time, and even if some have learned because of other scenarios, experienced or seen, those will often be the ones following, not starting.

The last person will in most experiences be the one not participating, caring, or if never registering the audible or visible clue, never participating at all, these are technically the laggards, and only if prior instilled to do it, as they won't really take new cues anyway, they won't suddenly pick up a new habit.

Also, the predictable thoughts that often come after hearing these things are, ''There are less laugh tracks now, so things have changed!'', or ''I don't find it funny, so I am above it!'', that's not the reality, the reality is that the entire ''level'' has changed, things like laugh tracks have been outmatched even by people that at the same age/stature 10/20 years ago would still react to it.

In other words, the medium itself not only matches the people fully on the right side of those charts, whereas before society as a whole watched TV more and was used to those things more as cues, whereas now the cues are in other platforms, ways, etc.

youtube.com/watch?v=1I0ij5Jci_w&feature=youtu.be&t=142

We're all the Fool. He's the figure about to step off a cliff, not knowing whether he's going to fall into the sea and die or fly off into the sky. He's that first step of faith into the scary unknown, and is why he's card number 0 in the major arcana. All cycles start with the Fool, with that step of faith. And while not all first steps lead to success, all successful journeys begin with a first step.

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I feel as though, consciously, I am more awake than most. However, the fact that being so conscious is difficult to explain to the people around me I don’t know where to go with it or what to do. I can easily see people’s intent and motives, understanding the paths that have led to their being in this moment.

I have a reoccurring feeling of oneness and creation. As if I have created and/or experienced all around me before. Is this all memory or am I just more in tune with the universe?

I can’t help but believe that I have a purpose beyond what I’m doing, but I’m unsure how to manifest the power and awareness I was granted and use it effectively to benefit all and one.

What’s the meaning of this?

OP, your offer must provide reasonable value to those in all phases of awakening i.e. what of those struggling with bhava such as commenter here.

To commenter, suicide will not take you there.

peace & love

Also be mindful of the poster. Some struggle when encumbered with a delay in the process relative to their a priori expectations. Be patient, kind and empathetic by choice and the intangible lessons come easier ergo faster.

13, my lucky number, next will be final.

I could've made this way longer and talked about different topics too, but I'll let this be for now.

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As examples,
Think Cred Forums memes, making their way to reddit, twitch or grandmas on facebook, that's not just because ''wow, Cred Forums better'', it's because initially there were more non NPC congregated here, not just to credit this place and the people, but simply because it housed a lot of young people, while at the same time those growing people weren't the ones following ''normal'' (NPC) patterns, like ''popular'' school activities, sports, whatever.

So it lead to certain things being created as the internet was growing too, and those getting passed on, and eventually other places matching.

It does mean those places essentially were ''behind'', but it doesn't mean they NOW are behind what Cred Forums was then, the merit is just kept and added to.

The easiest example being pepe making it's way to twitch chat, and then people coming with new variations and emotes too.

Or how Gachi made it from Japan and niconicodouga, to Cred Forums, to twitch.

All of those places, like Twitch, even though they copied things from other places' olden days, because those places were basically ''ahead of their time'' for back then, as with anything that gets created by non-NPCs and is ''forward'', aren't all just stagnant or without merit, but the percentages vary.

Early Twitch (and streaming in general) only had almost only had non NPCs as a group, now it has grown so much, it has NPCs too, of course, but it's still very progressive (forward..not political), now also, just because there are things like emotes, memes and things like gachi there, doesn't mean that's the highest level.

The reality is that things that have merit, brought on by creators and not appreciated yet (like new good music that's ''ahead of it's time), gets picked up by a small group, and eventually spread.

On Twitch it was held onto and spread by people from here.

Okay, first, STOP. You are in danger. Never, ever tell people you can see the fnords. The educational system, the media, our whole culture is set up to condition people not to see certain things. These things we call fnords. The reason they're there is so the Archons can tell who has broken their conditioning. Once you start seeing them you MUST NOT try to tell others.

The early period of Waking is extremely dangerous. In time you will learn how to pass among the sleepers unseen and you will learn how to see other Awakened, but the most important thing you can do right now is keep your head down and concentrate on your own journey. The sleepers are trained to find what you want to tell them stupid or scary or contemptible, and they will alert the Archons.

I did so, to the best of my ability. My suggestion was to try manifesting the Anima and following the path of the female for a time. My feeling is that is problems stem from the rigidity of the path of Thelema and male Animus. There's a reason why the tree has multiple branchings; all paths may lead to Kether, but one has a wealth of choices for getting there.

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Maybe a next time.

It's funny because I can tell that a lot of people aren't taking them in yet, but that doesn't mean anything, I know later people will go ''where's part 14, I wanted to read that'', so here, this is for you, I didn't abruptly stop, the messages already missed one somewhere in the middle, making it less than optimal.

Alongside the fact that I know I discussed some of these topics better prior and this isn't really a place to go and now check alongside references and somehow keep it organized, and needing to focus on other things IRL now, I decided to round this up.

If anyone reads these things now or later, I barely come back to Cred Forums, but if I see a thread like this again, or any of these things I said mentioned, I will hop in.

I will also check this archived thread after it's dead in case anyone wants to add contact or whatever.

It’s all so confusing, how do I find more about all of this. I keep hoping that I’ll run into people that can help guide me but I’m unsure of who I can trust. I just recently started noticing my first person perspective and sometimes dipping out of it and experiencing life almost dream like at some points, as if it’s a situation I need to wake up from. I think my sister is the same way and we have talked about this kind of stuff briefly from time to time but never to much.
-lx

larp faggot

What is the best form of contact ?

You know the way your unconscious guided you to this thread? Like that. Call for help, quietly. There are bodhisattvas and secret masters who will answer your call. They won't seem like anything special; they walk openly among the sleepers, waiting to help people like you. If you call out, they will answer. Open your shields and remain receptive. You don't need to seek them out, they'll come to you.