Eagerly awaiting the Iowa caucus results...

Eagerly awaiting the Iowa caucus results. I really hope we can have our first decent president in the history of the United States. Bernie 2020!

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Such a gigantic waste of money.

Tax cuts for the rich generally are, yes.

anyone who voted for this guy is either retarded or an uninformed child

Bernie is retarded

You sure showed them by posting that.

Donny too

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Ok so who should I vote for then? Who is less retarded? I'll be waiting right here for an answer...

Or maybe we just have different opinions then you? Ever think about that cunt? How about you stop pretending the world revolves around you?

Go fuck your self

Imagine being this stupid as to think this isn't already happening with taxes. Grow up kid. Paying taxes is part of life.

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Seen pictures like this. All support for Bernie. Still waiting for images that would explain how CheatingPete is even close to the same support.

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Paying taxes is a thing yes I know that dumbass seeing as how I pay my taxes...why would I want someone who is going to increase my taxes at a higher rate than they already are going up? Exactly
Are you fucking retarded? That has nothing to do with the fact that the man's ideas for the future involve taxing everyone not just the billionaires because even taking the billionaires at 100% wouldn't cover his free college for all and free healthcare for all. 90 trillion over 10 years...do the math for me on how that plays out for you

Rent free in your head

>I really hope we can have our first decent president in the history of the United States.

Calvin Coolidge was already president

Where the fuck did you get $90 trillion from? The US national debt is only $23 trillion and that's after decades of pointless wars and shit.

Also, the planning around healthcare is that if the government can cover it, no one has to pay out the ass for private insurance coverage that doesn't really cover them anyway. You might see a slight tax hike, but you'll be making more money since you're not paying premiums.

Imagine having a jew for president.

Economists have estimated that is the 10 year cost if you dont believe me look it up. He was even asked about it and doesn't deny it nor confirm it just tries to ignore it. You act like with free college ppl won't just flock to a university and waste tax payers dollars since they're not paying for it directly...get ready to see more pointless degrees being given out. If the government covers the costs...who pays the government? The taxpayer. Slight hike? Doubt it since ppl will go to the e.r. for small shit since its "free" in their minds but guess what...that doctor still has to get paid his $300 an hour rate regardless which is footed by the government

Different user, but the real debt is much higher. Look up unfunded liabilities sometime -- all the money to pay for future promised benefits like medicare and social security isn't included in the official debt numbers.

I'm guessing their 90 trillion probably includes unfunded liabilities like Social Security, medicare, etc. - all of which are in varying states of collapse since they're all paying out more than they collect in tax revenue.

That's not what it sounded like to me. The current unfunded liabilities are at least twice that, and the other user specifically said free college and healthcare for everyone. I have no idea what that would really amount to, but it would definitely add to the existing liabilities.

Trump 2020, bitch

>less retarded
>Trump

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My god, do you think Trump even WANTS to be President again?

Worst 4 years of his life, no contest !

Ok Shareblue

TRUMP 2020!

He loves the attention. How many other billionaires put their names in huge letters on skyscrapers? A few. How many have their own reality show? Maybe a couple. How many pester Forbes every year to try to convince them to bump up his estimated net worth? Only Trump.

But voting for bernie is so unamerican, you might as well walk down the street with a sign sticking out of your ass that says "I bottom out to mexican rapists" "Open My Wall For Mexicans Rapist".

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>How many pester Forbes every year to try to convince them to bump up his estimated net worth?

So you are an editor of Forbes then eh?

Many of these guys are vain, avaricious dudes, in fact most people who achieve that kind of success have MASSIVE egos.

I think you would be surprised how many billionaires care about that. Its the score card of their whole lifes work for many of them.

Americans know how to capitalize words, Mexican Rapist Man.

Typical BernieFag....thinks "free shit" is free

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Still your president

No, I got a free subscription to Forbes a few years back. For the Richest 400, they had a special profile on Trump and said he was literally the only one out of the 400 who came to their office and tried to coerce and bribe them to raise his net worth, and that he'd been doing it since the 80s.

So you're full of shit and don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

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"open my wall"
you mean the wall that just fell over into Mexico because there was ..... wind blowing?
That wall?
Yeah, sure seems to be a great replacement of whatever fence they used to have there, fucking ramshackle piece of shit wall if you ask me.

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Here, here, basrd user. A true liberal simply accepts that things have always changed. A true liberal doesnt try and throat fuck you with communism. Ashamed to be a democrat, 2020...

wow, great argument. VOTE TRUMP AMIRITE?

fuck off you russian faggot

Still waiting on Iowa officials to decide who they're going to select as the Iowan peoples choice.

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Says the team bottoming out for Russians lol

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>as if forbes has no reason to shit on trump when they can. plz.

I guarantee you, amazon sends somebody to interface with Forbes on bezos net worth etc.

Wb Yang?

this picture is so cringe and im right wing

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This is probably the stupidest argument I've ever seen.

I have bad news for you

Lol they don't care user.
Its the narrative they've been fed, and they believe it because: feelsies, and lack of intelligence.

He won't win. The big scary "S" word will scsre of the majority of american voters for the next twenty years because they still associate it with countries who said "no" to us 35 years ago and nothing scares american voters more.

Why in the world would you think Forbes cares about Trump? Note, this was long before Trump was even a presidential hopeful (they ran articles on in last millennium), so you can't pretend it's related to his being President.

The narrative that people work because they want things, not because working is fun?
kek

That was vaguely racist. Good job.

Democuck tears are delicious

>Bernie 2020
You aren't going to have some Jew save you and get your well "deserved" raise to 15 an hour.
Learn something you pathetic fuck.

How the fuck was it racist? I mean the main country they associate it with is russia so...

Burnie Sanders is weak. He won’t stand up for himself or his supporters. Socialist or not he is a weak old man who will let the rest of the democrats screw him over while he apologizes to them. He is unfit to be president.

People like you are silly because you act like our outrageous military budget can't be cut and redistributed to help pay for useful social programs.
And before you try to say we need our military budget where it is now, we spend double what China does (and China spends more than double any country after it) yet we could never best China in an armed conflict.

>outrageous military budget
You do realize the entire spending on defense is 1/6th of the total the federal budget.

We piss a lot of that money away on useless weapons/vehicles projects and endless wars in the Middle East. If the military can function while also burning cash like that, the budget for them is outrageous.

But it's a drop in the bucket, compared to the money spend on those social programs. It's not going to pay for a new grand social program.

The military is so wasteful. They're contractually obligated to buy all their gear through certain manufacturers, who then ramp the prices up hard. Military Industrial Complex in action. Trump recently threw another few trillion away like that, comparatively free public college would cost less than 100 billion

$90T for universal healthcare and college sounds low to me. We already spend well over a million a year for medicaid/medicare (2017 data). This'll go up to 2T easy, given recent trends, times ten years, times 3-4 for whole population joining the olds and poors, and we're looking at near $90M for healthcare alone.

Another way to look at the metrics is total healthcare spending for the USA. 3.2T in 2015. 3.6T in 2018. Extrapolate this trend from 2021-2031 and add the years up. Throw in college and it looks like 90T is a low estimation, a good deal, or a bit of both.

I don't want to pay for fat diabetic alcoholic slobs to go for expensive healthcare either, but we already do, and they go to the ER because they don't have an inhaler and shit like that. A baseline rudimentary medical service from the government should leave the free market viable for insurance, specialty services, cutting edge treatments, facilities, and R&D. If you are rich enough to send your kid to private school, you should be smart enough to understand that paying for public schools returns tenfold in lower crime, better economy, etc. and so it is the same with health. I believe you should get a voucher for the cost saved by not using public healthcare or education though. Yang went full circle on the idea of a public service voucher to hand the cash to people and let them decide how to spend (or save) it. Robots will end up doing all our work. We have always used progressive taxing and wealth redistribution. And if you think we're going to slippery slope our way to Venezuela-level monetary crisis, you're probably eventually right, as is natural order in the cycle of empires, but we'll almost certainly be dead by then so it's cool.

>Taking money from one portion of the budget can’t be used for another purpose
Man I wish we could reducing spending in one way to increase it for another....

what proof to the contrary do you have that donald will lose?
i'm pretty sure he'll beat the fuck out of gropey joe, the octogenarian commie, and the fake indian without much effort.
keep up this petulant horseshit and you guys might end up with pence in 2024

>Extrapolate this trend
Is not how statistics works. Multiplying your "best guess" by 10 is not how public policy cost assessment works. Leave it to the professionals, dummy

>can't organize a caucus in a shit hole state
>think they should run a country
This is democrat logic

terrible b8

You're missing the point entirely, and deliberately. Military spending is tiny, compared to what we're already spending on social programs. If you want a big increase in spending on existing social programs, or if you want to add some big new social programs like universal healthcare or free college, even cutting the military budget to zero won't make a lot of difference. You'll have to massively increase taxes.

>90 trillion
>Russia botting this hard

Fuck commies, you, and your entire genetic lineage.

Trump 2020.

You seem to be under the assumption that these social programs are going to break the bank. Under the new programs overall costs would drop dramatically while taxes would increase, leading to a net gain in every citizen’s pocket.

That's never happened before, why would it happen this time?

>russian faggot
Bernie is a commie

Suck my cock you commie faggot

Trump 2020

My dude I appreciate you taking the time to look at the numbers but I have worked in healthcare for years and insurance companies are 100% the reason why our healthcare is so expensive and inefficient. The insurance companies settle on prices that are normally 2-3 times more expensive than the out of pocket costs for routine care. Their designation of who is or is not in network, knowing full well that you have little to no control over who you see in a hospital setting let alone the ER, can double those prices again without basing the cost on tangible value. They decide what drugs are covered despite what evidence for the efficacy of the treatment is. They regularly partner with pharm companies to update patents and keep prices high, on top of having the ability to charge literally whatever they want for any medication because the USA HAS NO REGULATORY ABILITY TO MODERATE DRUG PRICES. That alone should be justification for overthrowing the system. Doctors that I work with every day have to defer to treatment programs that their patients insurance companies are willing to pay regardless of what they think is medically necessary. Also I’m not sure what you are talking about in regards to the free market supporting cutting edge treatments and experimental medications. If you as a patient are in the position where you need anything like that then lube the fuck up now. Insurance companies NEVER pay for anything that they deem not medically necessary or proven to their standards. If you do decide to pay anyways you will have to pay at the insurance rate rather than out of pocket otherwise you will void your contract. Insurance companies have no reason to exist if a Medicare for all model can be implemented. All of the figures you cited are based off of this over inflated model where people avoid care until the treatment needed is crazy expensive, like an ER visit. Fuck free market insurance.

Can't run their own caucus , let us manage your healthcare.

This.

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Because predatory lending sure has never been a thing.