The UK is making great progress in the fight against online hate speech...

The UK is making great progress in the fight against online hate speech. How can we get more americans to stand behind this strategy to reduce hate, bigotry and racism in our country?

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Ivan has been busy today.

post the one where the woman was taken from her home by the police and interrogated for hours because she called a man tranny a he on twitter.

The UK lives in the Orwellian nightmare. But the left lives in delusion. They erode free speech not understanding that when the pendulum swings back to the right, they will be the ones made to shut up.

i see Israel is out in full force today

Well that shouldn't be tolerated. People like that need to be taught a lesson.

Why is 'the right' bending over in the UK then? Maybe because most people support the new policies?

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So they have anti-asshole/nazi police. I don't see the issue?

>nazi police
Now that you mention it

Jesus. Orson was a time traveller for sure. You britbongs are pussy faggots

How many school shootings does the UK have a year?

>shootings
they call those stabbings over there

Populist movements like the "right" in the UK always have to toe the line because the will of the people is fragile. At least in public. Either way, you forget that the current state of "right" parties is classical liberal while the current state of left parties is getting ever more left.

>londons murder rate passes new york

bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-43610936

lol, i read about that too.
GET A LOIFE, BIN THAT KNOIFE!

Much less damage can be done that way so it's definitely better.

...

Now compare country to country.

13/50

UK is about 1 per 100k, USA is 500% higher.

worldpopulationreview.com/countries/murder-rate-by-country/

But you cant do that. The demographics of the UK as a whole and the US as a whole are very different. The reason we can compare London and New York is because they are both large, metropolitan cities with a similar makeup, population, diversity level and political structure/leaning with only 1 key difference (guns). Its apples to apples.

The only reason London is a shithole is immigration

well well well
13/50

Country to country is apples to apples. No reason america can't become more peaceful and tolerant.

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USA is 79, UK 153?

>Country to country is apples to apples
No, No its really not.

>No reason america can't become more peaceful and tolerant.

America is very peaceful and tolerant as a whole. It is gang violence in a very select few areas that drive the US murder stat up. Banning guns will not solve this just like banning knives has not solved the problem for London.

Censoring right wing trolls and arresting your average /pol user will only piss them off and increase real world violence, id much rather have some ass say "fuck Nigger jews" all day everyday on /pol then have them run outside beating people and throwing molotov cocktails through windows.

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>Censoring left wing trolls and arresting your average /pol user will only piss them off and increase real world violence, id much rather have some ass say "fuck nazi whites" all day everyday on /pol then have them run outside beating people and throwing molotov cocktails through windows.

>Cred Forums user
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>Cred Forums user

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So.... what your saying is... The solution is to not censor any speech on either side... and instead allow all speech so neither side gets too pent up?


Man, 250 years ago someone should have thought of this and wrote it down or something...

But it removes their platform for recruitment. If prison time is the punishment, the issue is far less of a problem to deal with.

Yeah this has always ended fine historically.

Except they didn't have the internet and couldn't experience the way hateful ideas spread like a virus throughout society.

Works for China, the UK, and many other countries. Just don't be a hateful asshole and you're fine. Is it that hard to be decent?

>But it removes their platform for recruitment

This is where people get the problem wrong. There is no such thing as a "platform for recruitment". What there is is disaffected people getting more and more angry. They will carry out violence one way or another. School shooters prove this. The shooters who get "recruited" into ideologies are in the minority. The focus should not be on banning outlets for their feelings. The focus should be on banning the media from spewing shit like "its all white peoples fault" or "its all mens fault" or running nothing but black crime for the entire nightly news cycle. It vilifies an entire population of people. THAT is what drives violence.

so you censor hate speech, then whats to stop the government from expanding on that, from hate speech to "fake news" from "fake news" to independent journalism and so on untill saying anything bad about the state will get you censored finned and possibly arrested

>its all white peoples fault
>White people control society
>Somehow it's not their fault when things go wrong, but they take credit for things that go right.

Just have to have clear definitions.

shut the fuck up you nigger faggot kike

How about a good old fashioned rage thread highlighting how quickly we're sprinting towards a nightmare dictatorship future?

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Oh user, you have no idea. The ideas may have spread slower but the ideas were there and they spread just fine. What is now the internet was once public forums. What is now internet message boards was once underground papers. Look at the french revolution, Mass violence of a disaffected population fanned by one man writing a paper. The first amendment was created to allow for a vent.

>Works for China, the UK, and many other countries

No it does not. The number of people in those countries getting angrier and angrier grows.

>Just don't be a hateful asshole and you're fine. Is it that hard to be decent?

That is the trouble. You cant define what it means to be decent in any neutral way. In one breath you tell people to not hate trans people then in the next breath you say "fuck white people" you have made decency into a political tool with no real definition.

The far right SHOULD go to prison.

>White people control society

How do you figure that? Money controls society, most of the richest people in the world are not white. The white boogeyman is a fantasy made to distract.

Except whites have the power in america. It doesn't apply towards them.

Fuck you Euro-nigger!

If you rewrite the rules and are able to recreate definitions then what is to stop the other side from doing the same?

>the far left should go to prison

I can say this till I am blue in the face but free speech laws protect your leftist ass as much as they protect those you hate.

>whites have the power in america.

But they do not. Most of the most socially influential people in the US are not white. Most of the people owning those social outlets are Jewish (not white by their definition). Only politicians are mostly white and even that is changing. In fact, most of the worst off areas of the US have a full cast of non white people in power. I fail to see how you can claim whites have all the power.

No, they shouldn't. I am in no way, shape or form on those delusional retards side, but they should be allowed to say whatever they want. Back to rage fuel

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This is when you can tell it was a troll thread, It dies when logic wins.

In a free land, im free to be racist, im free to not be, i chose to be an asshole, fuck you, kill all politicians

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Boomers are terrified the younger generation has actual morals.

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Except laws are changing. Get used to it.

shut up nigger

You are the kind of person that dies first in war. Take a vacation Pakistan you piece of shit.

The first to die are typically the most brave.

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V pobede bessmertnykh idey kommunizma
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Druzhby narodov nadozhnyy oplot!
Partiya Lenina - sila narodnaya
Nas k torzhestvu kommunizma vedot!

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Ahahahahaha
> actually believing that the left has any sway and that it isn't about establishing precedent in order to protect the capitalist elite

Oh user, you crack me up

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You can't. The Brits have no choice because they gave up their guns, thereby giving up all their rights. Never happen in America.

The 2a needs to change first then.

Kill yourself faggot your the reason school shootings happen

Man, I haven't laughed that hard in a long time. It is nice to see that sarcasm isn't dead.

...George Orwell, not Orson Wells.

Orson Wells was also a visionary since he foresaw alien attacks.

Define "hate speech" then. I believe it is hateful to say there is more than two genders or that it is ok for faggots to marry and adopt children. So whose definition is the correct one?

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Calling people racist and sexist name, for one. Deadnaming. Mis-gendering.

Which will never happen, unless you want civil war to break out. And you need to remember that most veterans are pro-gun and outnumber the few military and law enforcement that would back such a move. Being a veteran and coming from a law enforcement family, I can tell you that most would never support gun confiscation. That is why you have so many sheriff departments coming out in favor of 2nd amendment sanctuary counties.

>UK has similar demographics to the U.S.

I lol'd

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Warning: Thread is astroturf carried out by organized political operatives. A vast majority of Americans are political moderates and aren't trying to subvert constitutional free speech. Do not let these threads brainwash you into believing these beliefs are normal. This a coordinated effort of the few to trick the many. The exact same tactics are taken from Russian 'Active Measures' disinformation campaigns, read here to find out more about them so you can learn to spot falsified political narratives too.

nytimes.com/2018/11/12/opinion/russia-meddling-disinformation-fake-news-elections.html

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>misgendering

you best watch yourself, you're speaking hate right now

How long do you fellas think we have before our every thought is monited and we are no long free to do anything without permission from big brother?

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>Anyone I don't agree with is a russian bot.

ok boomer

The young man wanted to have sex and had a kid. He's now partially responsible.

I think most of the snide comments in this thread are just trolls, not people who actually believe in the UK censorship or political operatives

How can you mis-gender? If they have a dick, they are male, if not then female. And what is racist? Words that are racist today might not be tomorrow. Negro was an actual scientific term until someone got offended. When what offends people change, you can have no clear definition.

Enough people there believed it to make it a law. Consider that. People go to prison for twitter comments.

Ad-hom and strawman by a political operative, classical plays. I never said the political operatives on this thread were russian, just that they employ the same techniques as russians, as you are now.

Read and watch the documentary, Cred Forumsrothers. We have to shine light on the shadows of misinformation to protect our great western establishment, from enemies both foreign and domestic.

yes, I do think its an absurd level of censorship and we are in danger of seeing that spread to the U.S.

I just don't think the people who legitimately think that way are posting in this thread

Agreed. This place is used as a propaganda outlet

I think there’s something to be said for having your own space too. I live in low density population. There’s crime, but little violence other than the odd fight, and everyone walks away. If I don’t want to see people I don’t need to. I think close proximity living, housing estates, apartment blocks etc have a lot to do with, being unable to have real time to yourself. ½ this is too long.

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>And what is racist? Words that are racist today might not be tomorrow.

Oh i know this one as my country has done this a few times, you start with a word to define certain people or circumstances, those are usually unfortunately circumstances or defines a group that somehow has managed to have bad reputation, as soon as you use that word during some time it starts getting bad connotations and has to be changed for a new one, we made it like 6 times with words that refers to person with physical or mental disabilities, as if somehow using a new word with the exact same definition make its situation better.

So as soon as a word gets "dirty" you have to change it with a new one, lately the words are getting longer or even have to use metaphors or long phrases not to use the dirty word or you'll be an asshole.

>they will be the ones made to shut up.

No sir, NO SIR!.. They will be made to put up. The time for shutting up is long since past.

Sensitive faggot grow a pair and put up with it.

Kill your self, faggot

Exactly

> Shouldn't the finger be over the "N" key?

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So... if you meet someone in the street or bush where you live, what happens?
Here, street: assume he’s getting something done at gun shop. No reaction.
Bush: passing: wave and mouth “g’day”, no need to make more noise if he’s hunting.
Both stopped: may ask to see it. Never had a no yet. Never been passed a rifle incl rounds yet. Just safety and courtesy. Hand over breech open, empty, no mag every time. Check before taking.
Seems excessive but fuck all people here get shot.

Not long ago we fought for rights. Now, we’ve been so dumbed down and manipulated, that we actually fight to have them taken away. Unbelievable.

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Unless you're on the receiving end of racism and bigotry. Then it feels like justice.

Until you’re on the receiving end because you used the wrong word. Can’t you see this is a slippery slope?

You can write down any words, just like we have now. The young want change. We live in a new world.

What happens when the actual nazis get to define what hate speech means, retard. Any power you afford yourself, you also afford your enemies.

I miss the good old times when people could get offended without that being a "legal" offense or a political issue.

Of course there are some uses of the language that are pretty much recognized as offensive by everyone but lately people gets offended by someone just for having a different opinion and instead of debating they get offended as it's the easiest and fastest way to win an argument, and now they want to involve the law in the process, the problem is that all the different snowflakes doesn't get offended by the same things so there's no way to satisfy them all so someone will have to chose what's offensive and what's not, you really want some random politic making that decision for you?

This law proposed by the far right will be received with alarm and screams of dictatorship (that's only the normal reaction tho), still they want this kind of laws in place... but even if the actual administration applies the law with the best intentions how do you know the next will not abuse it to get rid of freedom of speech completely?, do people really want to put a law in place that can backfire at any moment and be used against those it should protect?.

Instead of complicating everything, why not teach people to manage their own emotions so they can interact with the rest without getting constantly offended? wouldn't that be easier than having a thought police?


Shouldn't I go to sleep?

The young? Ok, then let’s lower the voting age to 8, and nominate Greta for president.

The far right made anti-semitism illegal

foreignpolicy.com/2019/12/21/trump-elevates-an-anti-semitic-slur-into-law/

Define "far right", faggot. Details, please.

Those who support fascism.

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>The 2a needs to change first then.
Easy enough. Enact a new Constitutional Amendment to do just that. The US Constitution was specifically written so that it could be amended should the people want it.

>The young want change.
The young are ignorant and immature.