Fascism is unique to its nation and leader using comforting and familiar imagery and is a reactionary movement against the left as a traditionalist rejection of feminism and socialism marked by scapegoating brought on by a fear of difference of pale genetics, ultra nationalism, chauvinism, disagreement being treason, popular elitism, contempt for the weak, the enemy being both strong and weak, everybody being educated up to being a 'hero', and obsession with a plot, machismo and weaponry, permanent warfare, and many other things.
ur-fascism by a person who lived through a fascist government, Umberto Eco, supports this:
>The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”
>The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”
>The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”
Ian Rivera
>Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”
>Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”
>Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”
Carter Barnes
>The obsession with a plot. “The followers must feel besieged. The easiest way to solve the plot is the appeal to xenophobia.”
>The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”
>Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”
Evan Nelson
True story. And until they realize that whites are pretty darned pissed off about kowtowing to every fringe minority, Dems will continue losing. It's just the way it is.
Aaron Sanchez
>Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”
>Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”
>Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”
Jaxon Brown
>Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”
>Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”
Adrian Rodriguez
whats he gonna do, invade maryland?
#notmypresidentwahwah
Josiah Sanders
however fascism contains within itself its own downfall, Eco elaborated:
"The followers must feel humiliated by the ostentatious wealth and force of their enemies. When I was a boy I was taught to think of Englishmen as the five-meal people. They ate more frequently than the poor but sober Italians. Jews are rich and help each other through a secret web of mutual assistance. However, the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak."
James Evans
Jean Paul Sartre said it best:
>“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. >They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. >But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. >The anti-Semites have the right to play. >They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. >They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert.
>If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
Zachary Cook
Most zoomers like him for his bluntness. This is most likely a newer gen liberal millennial
Gavin Peterson
absurd
Lincoln Collins
So, unless Americans despise their own country they are fascists. Interesting perspective, Mao.
Zachary Miller
>They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge.
Andrew Garcia
But the jews did cause Germany's problems.
Henry Adams
>used racism to rise to power
Hitler did, Trump used nationalism which is NOT a dirty word and is NOT racist
>Proposed mass deportations
Hitler proposed this of citizens, trump proposed this of illegals. Trump is correct.
>Promised to make their country great again
Every politician has done this since the beginning of time
>Anti (insert ethnic group here) fascist
No. Trump is about the rule of law. Where hitler was anti jew, trump is anti illegal and anti criminal.
>blames immigrants for countries problems
Hitler was wrong, germanys problems were the war debt. Trump is right, unregulated and illegal immigration disrupts the labor market and capitalism.
Thinks ethnic groups should wear special ID
Hitler was wrong here, jews should not be treated different. Trump wants to see all people in the country have legal immigration papers (ID) or be deported as is the law
Ryder Williams
>They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge.
Camden Gray
>They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge.
>They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors.
Caleb Morales
I had a pet donkey once
Luke King
Trump is an Actor. Funny as hell. he does the bidding of all the elites that really control America and makes fun of all the other brown nosing Cant wait to get my nose up Isreals asshole politicians both dems and repubs...No president since JFK really cared about middle class /poor folks......democracy is a hoax now for the working class and get ready for trump 2020 its been decided already....
>“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. >They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. >by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors
Jackson Sanchez
you barely speak your own language don't you?
Camden Wood
>They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge.
you have been brain washed lol. the left is the instigator of all identity politics.
Nazi literally means : national socialist German workers party.
Trumps politics is nothing like fascist politics.
the Democratic platform is 100% identity politics and the philosophy of national socialism, premises in government that responds only to identity-fairness, that gets built into the state (authoritarian rule).
you are a brainwashed idiot. learn real history. Trump doesn't have a single authoritarian policy or inclination, you are projecting that onto him, because he isn't endorsing your authoritarian group-think agenda.
David Morales
>“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. >They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. >But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. >The anti-Semites have the right to play. >They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors.
James Barnes
vote Trump at least you can have a hearty laugh from time to time that gives you a glimpse of just how bad some of these politicians are ...i totally cant believe the research i got off this whole Ukraine hunter biden saga it seems like the less you know about your politicians the better and how these chumps always vote on bills to screw you over ...ie...Ukraine aid....my my...
Connor Wilson
Fuck off to pol, OP. No one gives a fuck. Stop posting the same boring thread 8 times in a row.
Nathan Brown
You don't even understand what a fascist is and are likely a fascist yourself as everybody these days that throws that word around usually is.
I bet trump wins 2020 then Mike Pence will take over meanwhile Trump steps down from some other shenanigan that catches up to him....eithef way ...dems got 8yrs so the repubs will get thier 8 never changes
Gabriel Miller
Kek. OP is dropping mad science on Cred Forums but the basement dwelling lemmings are too stupid drunk on rightist cum. They don't understand and flail about as the cum spills from their mouths trying to refute. Actual lol
He didn't say anything anti-semetic. He said Trump's actions aren't in line with Hitler's ideology. Somewhat related: Trump has gotten praise from Israeli leaders. Are you a better judge of anti-semitism than Israel's political leadership?
Also >Mindlessly quoting someone else's work, instead of engaging the substance of the argument.
What did Yuri call you? "Useful idiot"? Whatever book you read, use it as a muse for your own thoughts. Not a crutch to shitpost imageboards. I mean, unless you *wanted* to embarrass yourself in front of everyone. Keep posting in that case.
Ayden Ward
Yes, Trump is a fascist. That's why he serves jews, appoonted a bunch of jews and other jewish puppets into positions of power, and keeps saying Israel is our "greatest ally". Totally a nazi just like Hitler, who hated jews and would never do what Trump did. kys
>Facism Your parents telling you that you can't eat candy bars for dinner.
>Antifa The resulting temper tantrum.
Benjamin Jackson
Support ostrich rights! Vote for yourself!
Every man and woman for president!
Michael Clark
Nationalism is dangerous because you start worshiping symbols and flags instead of what they stand for. America is great because we are the land of equal opportunity. Not because we are white and wave our flag. Start replacing values with symbols and you're missing the point. Burn the flag to preserve the freedom it represents. Or at least don't clutch your pearls when your neighbor does it.
Julian Gray
what is a fascist please tell me
Dylan Allen
Wow, with a few minor tweaks, that describes the Democratic party perfectly
Hayyyyy fuck you He isn’t really any of those other than racist to rise to power which hitler never did till he was popular
Josiah Scott
Fascism is still better than whatever the fuck the left and the Democrat party are right now.
Jordan Gonzalez
This. Sage.
Jaxon Nelson
Hay you should cut your dick off a?
Hunter Watson
Rektum
Robert Thomas
Socialism directly interferes with capitalism which is what America is based so if you love it so much that you want it more than now go to fucking China and get cov
> hey guise look at all the fascisty fascist stuff I listed here > ... > hey guise? > guise > hey look at my list now... > i proved trump is fascist, see?
This, tbh. Every person on Farcebook and Twatter whining like a lil bitch about Trump is either: A. A boomer with the typical blue wave, hand clapping, rose emojis in their name / bio B. A rich, pasty white millennial with their gender pronouns & "Resist" bullshit in their bio
You'll occasionally have a token rich white zoomer douchebag that joins in. But most zoomers have favorable views of Trump & have social media timelines plastered with Trump meme's.
Ayden Anderson
yea was bout to say you'll very rarely see anyone under 25 crying like a fragile cunt about Trump.
Blake Ross
True. The burn out elderly hippies and rich white Gen Y that pretend to be Marxist revolutionaries to rebel against mommy an daddy while sipping on their $12 soy frapucino low fat Starbucks and talking on their $1700 iphones - those are the bulk of the anti-Trump shit all over social media sites & Reddit.
but almost all of us agree with hitler. he did noting wrong and time will show he was right. even today it's coming more and more to light. every discord, every chan, every work place. your time is coming. tic tock.
You know they sucked each other off after that photo was take
Logan Watson
somewhere along the line you completely picked up the wrong idea of nationalism and seem to believe its the same thing as ethnonationalism or fascism all the while believing true nationalism to be anarchism.
Nationalism has never been about the flag or skin color. Nationalism has always been about the freedoms and rights of the country. Those of both sides seek to erode nationalism by defining it wrong like you did.
Christian Jenkins
Disclaimer: I don't support Trump at all.
But you're 100% wrong here. Fascism is a populist ideology (if you can even call it that) that promotes the concept of STRENGTH in governance above all else. "Fascism" comes from the Latin word, "fasciste" (excuse my spelling) which literally was a bundle of sticks. Figures of authority, or lictors as they were known, would carry these as symbols of their authority.
Fascism really boils down, quite simply, to strength through unity. To an extreme. Abandon the individual rights and needs for the good of the collective. Hence why fascism is mostly a form of government rather than an ideology, and why most fascist states are authoritarian in nature.
TLDR: You're wrong. Learn what Fascism actually is.
Hot. Time to fap. Trump's a piece of shit fascist cunt, but he's got a hot daughter.
Hudson Wood
Fuck you, leftist paedophile!
Carter Cruz
You sound jealous
Jackson Flores
#Trump2020
Ayden Kelly
>Implying there's anything wrong with pedophilia. Cry more pedophobic Nazi bitch. You right winger fascists realize society is becoming more accepting of child love, right?
Jason Davis
This. Trumpanzees think they can stop progress and liberation of children's sexuality.
Joshua Ward
If you were half as smart as you think you are, you would realize that hitler came to power because of the behavior of the left at the time. similar to the behavior of the left today.
Henry Hughes
Thinks muslims should wear special I'd.... like a hijab?
Carter Brown
Does the left really not realise that shit like this is why Trump won in the first place?
Eli Hughes
Islam is fascism
Kayden Parker
Why those dumb ass niggers vote for the KKK is beyond me. Democrats just switched from physical slavery to government dependence.
Why is Cred Forums being raided by antifa? Did we do something to deserve this shit? We have degenerate trans porn and Loli threads, don't they feel welcome? I'm not even American and I'm voting for Trump out of spite.
It's a handful of boomer leftists and sniveling Millennials that sperg out & flood Cred Forums with /leftypol/ shit every time the Democrats humiliate themselves. After the numerous recent set backs & embarrassments the Democratic party's suffered this week, the retards are having an especially intense psychotic breakdown.
Joshua Peterson
Bingo.
As those right on cue, case in point.
Owen Anderson
Just remember OP that there is a thing like democracy. If the majority votes for whatever he stands for you have to accept it. Now stop crying.
Liam Smith
I'm seeing that. No wonder the left's plummeting in polls and Democrats are imploding after the impeachment fiasco blew up in their faces. Hell, the Democrat Iowa caucus humiliation shows why most Americans now prefer Repubs control Congress an the Whithouse.
Dominic Ramirez
Why are you so mean to me? You're not a Cred Forumsro, you're an angry gay.
Michael Cook
As I understand, they got turbo raped by Donnie. Thank you, fren.
