Are men who identify as female really female?

Are men who identify as female really female?

Debate.

Please be civil

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No, you can't change sex any more than you can change race

No because theyre men like you said.

I don't believe they are personally. If every cell in your body is telling you you're a dude, you're a dude

No, you can't change biology with a scalpel

obviously not. you have to go through puberty as a female to be female.

the logically correct answer would be no

There you got your info

no. you're not trans either without hormones and/or surgery.

OP, please end it now.

There are only 2 genders.

-Attractive and available cis gendered women.

-Whatever the fuck else.

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nice. And sauce?

Unbelievably based

im generally not in the business of giving a single shit about someones genitals or identity.

this is going to blow your mind. There are no male and female brains. There are alpha and beta brains. Female brains are on average more beta, and male brains on average are more alpha, but not always.

women have a primal role of being submissive. and men being dominant. when these roles are reversed due to emotional preference, chemical imbalance, or circumstance, then it is common to find gender queerness.

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It is a valid psychological affliction to believe that you are a woman born in a mans body or vice versa. By this I mean, it is possible for someone to "believe" that they are something they're not. The issue we are faced with today is; how to go about treating such an affliction? A good majority are suggesting that hormone replacement therapy and/or sex reassignment surgery are valid treatments for this disease.

I, personally, do not believe that this is the answer. However, I also dont believe that the answer is electroshock therapy or pray the gay away camps. More research is needed, more studies must be done. Until we know more about this affliction, we cannot say for certain what the best course of action is to treat it.

On the other hand, the easiest solution, by far, and one might say; the Final Solution, would be to just round up these nut jobs and kill em. Cut out the cancer before it festers and infects the healthy tissue.

nope

No.
Debate over.
Brush your teeth before you go to bed.

Lmao imagine wanting to be a woman

No, They are now and always will be considered fucking men and faggots.

thats fine, its cool to admire them like that
the problem is when some fuckhead starts telling them they can actually do it

>Are men who identify as female really female?
>Are men really female?
>Are men female?

If you had a brain, I'd recommend using it to address the question.

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m8 unless your signals get fucked up, you either start growing testes or overies in the womb

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>this kills the liberal

Mental disorder

>born trans gender
>gender is a social construct

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Nope

this. trans females still cant give birth

This offends me as a vegan transgender hipster Native-American-Indo-Chinese hybrid alien agnostic-atheist German engineer who vapes fairtrade organic decaffeinated compressed and hydrated extra-protein soy breast milk on the regular and does Hindi Kama Sutra naked crossfit yoga 8 days a week. I'm also a nonbinary trigender genderqueer male feminist and identify myself as a pastafarian pansexual genderfluid Apache helicopter dog of mega multi alpha beta gamma delta omega combo god of hyper death who's in a polygamous polyamorous relationship to the chihuahua which helped me cross the border of Mexico because it hates Donald Trump. My dog also walks me to the park and doggy styles me, if you find that weird you're an ignorant arrogant homophobic gender-assuming globaphobic bloodthirsty gun-loving cisgender pansexual bestial sexist racist incestuous white-previlege misogynistic biased objectified raped privileged Nazi-Communist slave owner terrorist lesbian.

>Are men
You answered that yourself OP. Men

>I don't believe they are personally
It's not a personal belief, it's an actual fact

no

1. xy chromosome = males
2. xx chromosome = females
3. hermaphrodite

everything else is cosplay

No such thing as transitioning. You're just mutilating your genitals.

Also trans is short for "transvestite". There is no such thing as "transsexual".

>There are alpha and beta brains
>I know because I'm pretending to be a cognitive psychologist and neurologist

I only accept transitioning if you are able to change your genome, like I said, everything else is fantasy

>There are no male and female brains.
People experienced with brains can give educated guesses in a blind study and be statistically right more often than not. They don't even ave to run hormonal tests
>There are alpha and beta brains.
Yeah that's real scientific brainlet

Biologically? no they're men despite how they identify or what they change. Biology is biology end of story.

Yes

sticking feathers up your butt, does not make you a chicken.

Well, if they're men, then they're not women. If they transition, then they're women. I mean, Bailey is 100% female at this point. I don't care what anyone says about it. I think it REALLY helps you in day to day life if you pass like Bailey, but not everyone can unfortunately. It's not like all regular women are attractive or look feminine. Many look far more manly than many trans women.

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same

this identity politics stuff is the just the rich and powerful's way of dividing us against one another to not see the true enemy which are the puppet masters of our corrupt system that allows the rich to profit at the expense of the rest of us.

but please keep lapping it up you idiots. that's exactly what they want you to do.

Transgender women are not men.

so if bailey took a dna test, what would the result be?

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Is an animal a human?

100% FEMALE. Trans women are women, and I will suck Bailey's dick as many times as I need to until you admit that.

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it is exactly why the "woke" dems focus on LGBT and other stupid bullshit because that is what the rich donor class wants - they want the energy focused on the culture war bullshit so nobody actually pays attention to the issues that actually affect everyones life like the outrageous expense of healthcare in the US, or the fact that top tax rates for the insanely wealthy have gone down tremendously over the last several decades, or how wages have been stagnant for years on end, or about the fact that at one time in the US a man could go to work and provide for his entire family with one income, which is now a relic of the past, now we have people working 3, 4, 5 jobs just to make ends meet and still come up short.

but please, keep focusing on bathrooms and peoples genitals - you know the real problems that actually affect you.

That just looks like a dude who mutilated his chest and wears makeup. A transvestite who took it too far.

Humans are animals.

Well some people say your mom is a human but she looks like an animal to me...

Nah. Bailey is sexy as hell

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delusional as fuck, just admit you are a faggot

Why can't people be happy just being themselves?

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They can live however they want and I'll happily refer to them as she/her or whatever they want, as I can respect peoples wishes, but they can never actually be female any more than I can be a helicopter.

I feel sorry for their situation. It must be awful to feel you're in the wrong body, but it's a mental issue not a physical one.

Nope. I am 100% straight. Do you need me to suck Bailey off again to prove it to you? Cuz I'll do it.

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What does sex appeal have to do with anything? I never said that homosexuals wouldn't find that dude sexy.

You said Bailey "mutilated" herself and that she "took it too far". That implies she's ugly and freakish, when she clearly is not. She is absolutely gorgeous and in my opinion one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen.

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News flash: DNA remains the same when you have a sex change!

XY doesn't become XX

>being a fag
why is this the only aspect of human existence that you care about you fag? what are you trying to really do, jew?

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Also I would like to remind you that gay men ARE NOT attracted to trans women. Gay men like men. They like the masculine, not the feminine. That's why they're gay. Straight men like trans women because they look, and talk, and act, like women.

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I don't find him sexy. Many homosexuals do. "Sexy" is a relative term.

Being a man or woman is not relative. It's a state of being. It has nothing to do with other's sexual attraction.

And a lot of people are born hermaphroditic and don't even know it. So what are they? A lot of women have testicular remnants but have never shown any masculine traits. A lot of men have ovarian remnants and never show any feminine aspects in their day to day lives. So are they half women?

The same things that become testicles are what also become the ovaries. Gender isn't as one or the other as people say.

Not true - most gay men are very feminine and find other feminine men attractive.

Bottom line is you're gay and in denial. If you learn to accept it you'll be a happier person.

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A gay man would never find Bailey Jay attractive because gay men LIKE MEN. Men who look, and talk, and act LIKE MEN. That IS NOT what Bailey Jay is.

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Theres no debate identify as anything other than what you are doesn't mean shit, you got a dick? You'll never be able to give birth. Got a pussy? You won't ever be able to produce semen I cum in a bitch. Fuck I hate you niggas

Wrong.

You don't speak for all gay men. Many gay men find transvestites attractive. According to you, those gay men are actually strait??? I disagree. That makes no sense.

>Gender isn't as one or the other as people say.
Except it is - it's XX or XY. Now I agree there are anomalies and people who have traites of the opposite sex, but having a vestigal micro penis doesn't make an XX into an XY, kind of like how having webbed toes doesn't make you a duck.

then go by whether or not they can give birth, or produce semen, cant be both

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Yeah I'm not, and neither is anyone who finds this attractive either. Gay men are still men in every way, and that's what they like. Maybe you should ask a gay guy about this. I have. They don't find trans women sexy or attractive, because they view trans women as being females. Which they are.

I'm not apologizing for liking trans women, and I like regular women as well. I'm straight and you can just be mad about it.

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Did nobody read this? Why no replies?

Not biologically. But fuck it.

Yeah because all cis women have never had problems giving birth. I'm sure no woman would ever find such a ridiculous claim insulting.

a lot? so 60% ? And I don't think hermas want to be called transvestites, they are their own category

Yes. Gender is just a performance.

Nah scratch that, why cant be just ACCEPT themselves? Being happy is another thing..

This bothers me for some time now. Didnt Bailey used to have a smaller cock when started posting on the intranet as a linetrap compared to her pornstar days? Am I not remembering right?

It’s 2020 you can be a planet if you say you are one slippery slope any way you look at it obviously biology does not change but how we think of ourselves collectively as humans is shifting you identify as happy or trans or a vegetarian or straight edge or whatever maybe you want to own alpacas and not have a wife or sleep with men that look like your dad or sleep with women who dress like tom bois and have muscles there are so many lines that blur and so very few ways to the human form is subjective as is art anatomy of the body changes anyway so why not make it your own? People change themselves to feed mental health... when Bailey started she did vlogs, she was at conventions hanging out with other girls, times changes and as do people there is nothing we can control other than our own lives just let people live their truth if that is what they feel no one should be denied the right to feel a certain way there is no amount of science talk that will ever pertain to having empathy and compassion for others this is being human 101 don’t be an asshole

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Gay men are not sexually attracted to trans women. You'd know this if you would ask them.

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Delusional faggot

It's still pretty gay to want something with a cock regardless of how it acts or looks.

>individual possesses both the male XY and female XX chromosome pairs

they have their own category, don't put them into the trans debate

I never said hermaphrodites are transgender.

Mental Illness

I'm not asking you to appologies for what you are. Being gay is fine.

But you ARE gay. If you're XY and you want to fuck another person who is XY, then you're gay.
Just because another gay guy doesn't like the same shit you do has no impact on the reality of the situation.

I believe that's called being bisexual. You can call yourself strait, but using that term incorrectly is just going to confuse people.

Yes unless they're a lesbian. Thats a straight guy with extra convoluted steps.

then why mentioning them at all in this trans debate?

if i get a really deep tan, can i be black?

Yes. So she explained why it's different now compared to how it used to be. She went in for a check-up with her doctor and the doctor told her that her female hormone levels were off the charts. Far higher than what even cis women have, so he told her to stop taking any hormones for a while. She stopped for I think she said it was close to 2 years, and during that time is when her dick got clearly much thicker.

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Fuck transbian fags. They need to be shot.

If a transition is indistinguishable then they are female. Nuff said.

Live in denial faggot

And so the fuck what if you think it is gay to like trans women leave people the fuck alone you probably think it is cool to jerk off to lesbian porn because you think that is straight to do newsflash if you don’t like seeing penis you probably don’t like seeing your own chill. Before I tell you about how you wish you had tits and a never had to work a day in your life.

There are millions of gay men in the world. No I did not ask all of them. Did you? Or did you only ask the ones attracted to masculine traits?

I know it is true because I have the internet.

Because everybody got into XX and XY crap, so I figured it was related to the topic to mention hermaphrodites and how their bodies and biological makeup is with regards to our conversation. It is certainly related, but I never said hermaphrodites are transgender.

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Imagine being such a snowflake that you are offended by a person's individual choice to make a decision that will never affect you in ANY way.

this hamster is hilarious

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I'm not the one calling people asshole.

I'm fine with people living 'their truth' and I have plenty of empathy thanks. People can call themselves what they want, and I'll treat them how they want, but they can't change the science. That's just a fact.

it affects me emotionally because it creates a subconscious danger that a freshly met woman I'm dating is hiding a dick from me. Does it make sense now?

Depends. Will you quit your job and go on welfare too? Leave your kid and wife? You have to go all the way.

Nein

Tell me whatever you like.

Yeah. I dont know about that. I think its not only thicker but longer. She might be lying and had something done to it because of porn.
This pic for example is ridiculous. Just look how small is the head compared to shaft. In this photo looks way more proportional.

You can identify as whatever you want but you can’t change your chromosomes. You are what your chromosomes say you are.

transgender people always put the poor 1 true hermaphrodites on their cover page as excuse for their mental illness. 'durrhurr look, it's biology'

See there's a thing called consensus, and you can get a general understanding of a topic with one that doesn't require asking literally every human being in existence.

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*1 per mille

Not sure who you are referring to? You talking about the people who want to label a man as a woman just because he dresses feminine?

If not then I'm not sure what you mean. Forcing people to throw science out the window and compel them to incorrect label a man as a women, is definitely hurting us. It's hurting society as a whole with mass confusion. That's the only time people started caring.

What happened hon? Why so mad?
All you transbian fags need to be killed. Stop indoctrinating young girls. Tgirls belong to men

It's like he got caught jacking it on webcam, and just now realized it.

Dsp has a hamster?

Because human beings are allowed to do whatever they want with themselves and their lives and you don't get to dictate what is or isn't ok for people to do.

you answered the question yourself.
>they identify as women

Can I identify as 7 foot tall blond blue eyed viking male, when I was born a 5 foot tall vietnamese women? I sure can... You get the point.

Don't worry. No sexy trans woman would ever find you attractive or want to date you.

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Ok, so where is this national consensus that says that there are no homosexual men who are attracted to another man that is dressed like a woman?

I've literally seen them in public. So I'm assuming you have some consensus study and not simply your personal experience?

morph into anything you want. no one wants you.

so it is a mental illness, called hallucinations

Is it the best response you could come up with?

Do you even know what it means to "identify"?

Nah dude, it's pretty clearly the same length. She hasn't gotten taller and when it is next to her leg it doesn't go any further down her leg. I've heard her talk about a lot of stuff and she is generally very clearly open and honest about herself and how she feels about things, and she was pretty clearly not lying about it. It's up to you if you believe her or not, but I do.

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I'm a trans girl

Would you call me a dude if u saw me irl?
>me rn

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thirded

If you are in such a panic that you might meet a woman and find out she has a penis, I don't know how you would attract anyone who isn't a complete idiot.

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No, I'd call you zhe.

schizophrenia

Absolutely not. I might hit on you actually. Kinda cute.

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It seems that playing in dude difficulty is too hard for some, it's easier to play in chick difficulty and then make everyone around you call you a chick.

Not OP - but I'd call you a woman out of respect, but I wouldn't believe you to actually be one.

I'm not trans, dude. Calm your tits.

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Do you like men or women (of any kind)?
If its the first I would marry, if its the later go kys faggot larper.

pretty much this.

How many bikes have you stolen?

You wanna be a faggot, be a faggot, but you will never change what gender you are, no matter what body parts you remove or attach. There is no fucking debate. Now go suck a dick.

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Dunno bro, as far as I know chicks don't have a penis.

Mental inllness, maybe.
Hallucinations, not really.

We are just in the age of "tolerating" everything no matter how absurd it is. There are people who identify as puppies and ponies...

Social media + try hard "being as tolerant as possible, so everbody thinks I am a good person and likes me, and does not call me out" -cluture is to blame in my opinion.

Hurting someones feelings got worse then denying reality and speaking the truth. People are just weak, and spoiled. They dont have real problems like needing to survive so they creat new problems.

Everything will go to shit, as it needs to get worse before it become better.

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I think that this whole "transgender" shit getting blown out of proportion is because the government wants to increase people being trans so that they are more likely to vote as a democratic demographic.
Even though they are literally convincing people to irreversibly mutilate their own genitals or go against the natural product of their body or even their own children's body.

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If it was born with a cock and balls. Its a man.

I didn't say panic, I said "subconscious danger", but well, that's the world we live in so why should I care. If it happens, it happens.

No.

I honestly would probably find you more attractive as a man.

t. A heterosexual guy

Go do some reading or alternatively - kys.

Yes actually. It involves the largest study of web search histories ever undertaken.

youtu.be/qMoEs7eQeZE

Yes it means that you have a perception of who you are. What do you think it means?

Can I identify as being a space-time bending omini potent entity trapped in a human body? And if so, does it make it reality?

Guys hit on me all day. Its fucking creepy

I only like men, want my kik?

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You will never be female

I might be wrong. But then again her dick in this looks bizzare.
Anyway, fuck it. I dont like Bailey for many other more serious reasons.

Trans women usually do.

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No they are just fags

the truth hurts.that's why you start to insult others

Checked

>I only like men, want my kik?
What a qt. Tbh i dont use any of those (kik, discord etc)
Just dont let these vile transbians kikes brainwash you.

This is easy. If you cum in Bailey’s pussy is there a chance she’ll get knocked up?

Now let’s unpact the question

Bailey doesn’t have
a) ovaries
b) a uterus
c) a vagina

So what gender could Bailey be considering all that?

But I am a man. I mean, I was a woman once, but I am a man now. Sooo, what is your kik?

That's just a man who wants attention

Ok, well maybe I'd change my tactics up then. I do know guys can be super creepy and weird around trans women. I certainly wouldn't want to come off that way.

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Humans are a highly advanced species if animal, yes.

the real question is, does identifying as something , make it reality?

No. The only reason the elites are holding our nose in this particular puddle of piss is the same as always: dominance. It's about getting us to say war is peace and 2+2=5. This is Soviet style propaganda, it's meant to be absurd and obviously untrue but in forcing your participation with it through threats and putting it everywhere to make it inescapable they make you denigrate yourself, you become part of the crime being committed against you by betraying the truth.

A trick they use to keep this going is to train the people in question, trans or whatever you want to call them, to see not doing so as intolerant or in most cases somehow violent, producing an inward spiral of confirmation biases. In reality most trans people who are attacked or murdered are black and the people commiting those crimes are also black leading to one of two conclusions: either being trans has no effect on the propensity of black on black violence OR black men are highly intolerant of homosexuality or anything resembling it. Anyway, their violence is used to manipulate the overall figure to make it look as if all trans people are likely to be attacked when it's, for non-blacks, only as likely as anyone else.

It's manipulation by the ruling class, all of it.

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Dunno bro, bailey looks like a dude with lip filler, tits and long hair. bailey doesn't look like a chick at all as his names leads to believe.

You’re fuck ugly, and don’t pass even the slightest bit. Honest to god their are men more attractive than you.

Whys that? Don't like her personality?

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Take a photo in full light. Lets see that adams apple she-he

there is a reason why it's called a trap, this thing is trapping others to believe it's a women. so it's deceitful

Thats because thats what Bailey is. A man parading as woman to soften the inherent faggotry in closet fags

ALLLLLLL FEMALE BRAH. And she and I would love every second of it.

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what personality??!

Men Cant Menstruate, Females Cant Ejaculate (cum)

Well, the mask is also real, it somehow exists. If I want people to interact with my mask then it is practically coming into reality. Some of the stuff happens in our heads only, but as long as it make people happy, the difference is only in detail, an unimportant detail.

I am a man. I'm not Bailey Jay. I just keep posting Bailey because I personally am attracted to her.

And if you think men are more attractive than Bailey Jay, go date them. I'm sure someone might like you.

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If “she” doesn’t have a cunt and ovaries. Its not a woman. Deal with it.

Not every delusional state is schizophrenia.

Most natural born men are more attractive than trannies. Because the men are real at least, not pretending to be something they’re not

I don't care, I was just curious why you don't like Bailey. Do you like other trans chicks?

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is "performance" the same as "role"?
Because that makes no sense. What is the female or male role?

That's not what my balls would be worried about when I'm cumming deep inside her...

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i'm here debating the point, right?

Would I call you a dude? Depends on your voice and adam's apple. At face value, you'd trick me.

Most men cannot convincingly trick others into thinking that they were a woman. It's still a facade.

Even if I knew you were a dude, I still wouldn't call you a dude simply to avoid confrontation. I avoid people with odd disorders. They confuse indifference with hate and their misunderstanding results in a scene. Best to leave them be.

so you are hiding behind a mask and lie to other people.

You can identify as such and no, it doesn't make it reality. The point of discussion is hate speech. That means, I have to respect your choice (or faith) to live as said entity.

don't you niggers get tired of having the same argument for weeks and months and years? i don't think a fag in a dress is a woman either but saying it 24/7 is fucking boring

cum determines the sex of the baby, right? what is the point of an identity if it is based on a brain belief versus a thank you.

Its complicated. Im pretty sure shes a nice person but having spoken and seen many trans girls (that somehow refer to Bailey as an early inspiration) outside the "glamorous" world of porn, cam-whoring, etc I started hating her. Of course Bailey isnt the only one but its the first one to really make it big. She might be a victim of what I hate herself too.

There's really nothing here to debate. Women want to be taken seriously. Men want to be taken seriously. Every human being wants to be taken seriously.

If a person is asking you to refer to them in a gender that you don't understand, or you want to second guess, then its up to you to decide how seriously to take them. But you have to assume they are serious, whether or not you are.

No they inevitably become traps or fetishes which I just went to go fuck also brain chemistry and biology is vastly different and tons of studies done on it so your just ignoring facts for belief aka it's become a religion

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It's not lying. It's trying to live with something I didn't ask for, like my biological gender.

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but you just called it a trans woman. that's not a woman. otherwise you would have just called her a woman.

by the way that wasnt me

You're on the right path here, but you'd want a chromosomal analysis test.

nah. even if youve had transition surgery, you dont have periods.

Ok. Just curious. Any time I've seen her talk about goofy stuff she likes (she's into a lot of schlocky B-movie type goofy kitsch stuff which I find amusing, and I love B-movies) she has a sweet fun personality and is very well spoken and Goofy and fun. I guess that personality just kind of hit me personally, because that's exactly the type of girl I'm attracted to. Like if I knew a girl exactly like that I would absolutely try to get in a relationship with her.

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seconded. you cannot have babies, you are not female. Attractive? maybe...

Speaking the truth is not hate speech.

I agreed, its fine for me to a space-time bending omini potent entity trapped in a human body.

What is not fine, is for me to expect other people to live and act like its reality. If I say its hateful if you don't act like it. its just a manipulativ way to guild trip you into submission, and exercise power over your life. Its what narcissists do.

If there is one thing people love, its controlling other people. And yes, its the entire reason for call-out/outrage culture/cancel-culture.

If a female, biologically born (therefor has priority), identifies them as female for all intents and purposes (because no real woman would care if her sister/mother/daughter could have children), then yes because that individual is then accepted as being able to influence the universal idea of what female is.

Please note that this only happens in instances where the happenstance of birth (a natural thing) has been upset by the difficulties of the current times.

>This was a public service announcement provided for the benefit of your attention and awareness.

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Well, I was being specific. And since the topic is specifically about the differences between men and women and trans men and trans women (although it has devolved exclusively into only talking about women and trans women) I figured it would be helpful to be more specific about it. Otherwise in real life I just look at trans women as being women.

and what's the problem then? screaming your problems at people who don't care doesn't make it go away. it doesn't help at all when people get annoyed.

That's the opposite of what I asked. That doesn't talk about openly gay men and their attraction (or lack thereof) to transvestites.

That doesn't have anything to do with your claim, which you said that there are no gay men who are attracted to transvestites.

Try googling harder. You didn't grasp at enough straws to backup your baseless claim.

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Countless non trans women cannot have babies. Are they not women? That's a completely absurd way to determine what is or isn't female. Also, many women will have surgeries to have either their ovaries and/or uterus removed (usually for medical reasons), so are they suddenly not women anymore?

>Like if I knew a girl exactly like that I would absolutely try to get in a relationship with her.
I get you 100% but here is the problem I have. Bailey and many other girls have been "conditioned" to not being able to have normal relationships like the majority.

Who started this thread? Me or that uncomfortable, annoyed person?

lol Bailey even says whoever jacks off to him is considered gay

but those who have had such sugeries were at one point capable of having said babies, thus being a woman and within the definition. It's not fucking rocket science. People can be trans, fine. they can be in that special category of being between genders. when they try to redefine male or female, that's when us normal fuckers say..."bullshit!" and call an apple an apple.

thanks, I was just larping, but you made a good ponit.

are you kidding. Do you see the direction modern psychology is going? If you are intelligent and thought shit through a lot, really educated guesses are going to be a lot better than taking the word of someone being educated in psychology today.

It's a theory. I'm working on it. And so far, it fits fine.

even trans people need to admit that Cred Forums is flooded with trans threads. traps everywhere.

No that video was specifically about how straight men ARE attracted to trans women. There was another similar video where he explained more about this same topic but talked more about how gay men don't like trans women, while straight men do. Same basic thing though.

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Only 2 existing living creatures on this planet can bring to new live a human being and those are a male and female. When female give birth and bring in to this world another human been which will become a male or female depending on the chromosome.

There is nothing more or less!!!

I wouldn't call it a mental disorder but more like experiment which on the end will be painful and a bad decision.

You can pretend!
If you put a mouse in to the stable it doesn't become a cow.
It's really sad what is going on there.

Just thinking about that makesme sick.
Will your life be better if you start living with a man who is dressing like a woman?
Will you be happy without own biological k.

This is sick. Do whatever you want but remember relationship can be only between man and women the rest is fake af.

I hope I got you some reasonable answers for whenever you might get challenged on this topic.

I can identify and live my life like I am a 6 year old girl that loves pink unicorns, and everybody around me can life to accept that. The moment I demand to go back to elementary school and shower with my "peers" after swimming class, we got a problem.

And people need to stand up for truth and reality, whether it hurts my feelings or not.

Truth > Feelings. Always.

This is the wrong question. The real
question is does it even matter? I genuinely not care. Tell me your name and what I should call you and I will. I'm
too old to give a shit. You're an idiot if you care. You're so obsessed with the thought of your hypothetical children embarrassing you by being
like them you're
obsessed with cringy people you aren't even related to.

No

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lol exactly

lol exactly..

No, They are just tranny men

I mean, she's married to a guy, and for the most part they have a regular married relationship as far as I know. A lot of trans women don't get into relationships with guys because most men won't actually view them as women or treat them as such. Also, trans people in general face a lot more hatred and violence against them than most other minority groups. Just look at some of the hateful comments from some people in this thread about a topic that barely, if at all has ever or will ever affect them any in way. People have this base instinct to hate them, when most people have either never met a trans person, or the trans person they did meet was totally passable and they never even knew it.

I just think it's ridiculous that people get so enraged over something that absolutely does not affect their lives at all. Chill out, I mean it's not like people are forcing you to become transgender yourself. If you like it, you like it, but otherwise calm it down. No sense in getting so hostile over it.

Not saying you've been hostile about this, but I see SO MUCH hostility and hatred about it and I just get tired of it.

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Nope. Totally 100% straight.

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Trans here. Biologically, no, absolutely not. Socially, it's subjective. Some say yes, and that's their right, and some say no, and I don't have a problem with that either. The truth is that it doesn't matter to anyone who accepts that they can't control how others think or talk. You can't "misgender" me if I don't care.

I AM FROM THE FUTURE!

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nigger, you gay

If you were to visit a public bathing facility, would you join the men or the women?

If you don't go to these places, imagin you were going.

blocking testosterone and starting estrogen effectively induces a second female puberty

Like I said, 100% STRAIGHT

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I don't think identity alone really gets you there.
Identifying + hormonal transition + social transition = a woman, who is trans

That would be heaven.

How about you consider biology in your equation. Or do things don't add up if you do?

penis + dress = faggot

>penis+dress=delicious and sexy!

Fixed it for you

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>civil
>on/b/
Shut the fuck up nigger faggot

you suck at math

>math
>talking about trans women and penises
I'm thinking you're the one who doesn't understand math. They typically involve things like...NUMBERS.

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Yeah, sure. But maybe they could open a separate school for nostalgic people like you? The point is - there is always a solution that will allow to "play the game/act safely".