To those of you who are lonely / lack female intimacy, have you ever considered an imaginary partner?
I have had an imaginary girlfriend for about 4 years now, and she has provided me with a lot of pleasure, love and motivation to better myself. I enjoy "advertising" her once in a while (even though that sounds kinda wrong), because of how much she has done for me so far. I genuinely think much heartbreak and loneliness could be solved if people knew this was an alternative and took the idea more seriously. I do realize why they don't, but I want to try and make the idea a bit more acceptable.
I'm willing to answer any questions you might have, no boundaries, really. And if you're one of the few in the same boat as me, then do share your experiences itt.
Here are a few questions people usually ask, to get them out of the way: >How old 24 >Are you a virgin No. However, I have never been in a relationship (outside this one). I prefer sex with my partner to physical sex / masturbation. >Is this a tulpa No. >What does she look like? She's short, thin, pink hair by the shoulders, wears shirts and jeans, green eyes, small nose, thin lips, itty bitty titties. And she isn't anime, I'd have a hard time interacting with her if she was 2d. >Does anyone else know? Fuck no. I'm not an idiot, and neither is she. >Are you actually serious right now? Dead serious.
I'll post how to make one in a later post if people show interest. It's really not hard, it just takes a bit of effort, but I don't want to type that shit for noone to read.
My sister was completely going insane too with imaginary people she would talk to, but lithium helped.
Hunter Morgan
Meditation! It takes some effort to get to a point where it feels proper, but it's a fun thing to practice, and once you get there, it really gets pretty amazing.
When we started though, it was really hard to enjoy the actual sex part because I had to focus so hard just to feel her, but there are a ton of exercises you can do together to improve as well, it doesn't need to be straight up sex.
>I'm willing to answer any questions you might have, no boundaries, really. how big is her pp?
Chase Evans
Oh, I should also mention some people like to interact with them in dreams as well, but I'd rather meditate, feels more controllable and just easier.
Her pp is actually 0 inches, and she feels very conscious about it all the time. I have told her it's alright, my pp isn't big either, but she never listens.
Pls just share how to user I'm interested. The thread will be archived anyway so people like me can link to your post for reference
Isaac Morgan
I was never big into feet, but she does have cute feet, I guess. Never smelled em, but I'm sure they smell like roses and holy water. It's a shame she doesn't like heels, though, I'll say that.
>The thread will be archived anyway I thought Cred Forums threads were never archived, though. Anyway, I'll type something up then and link you whenever I'm done.
I'll break things up, or the thread'll probably die.
So the goal here is to create a "character", and then sort of play them out yourself until you do it so much your subconscious picks it up, and it ends up playing them automatically. It is all an illusion, at least at first, and it's important to realize that not to fall on stupid pitfalls, so always keep that in mind. Don't think of it as belittling them, think of it has really knowing what they are. The reason I say "at first" is because, at the end of the day, our own personality is just something our subconscious is used to "playing" as well. The best advice I have is to forget about things like volition / sentience, those are meaningless, just don't bother with them.
With these things in mind, I think it's easy enough to illustrate how to go about it in steps: 1. Create and develop a character. You can think of them as a character you might be creating for a book, and you can even write stories about them or just think about them in order to figure out the basics of how they behave. It's not enough to just have a list of traits like "loving, extrovert" and so on, because those are never enough. The only way to build a solid personality / character, is to put them through experiences, and thinking of how they'd act. Your goal here is to get to know the character up to a point where you can easily answer "what would they do" in certain situations - effectively, you're becoming better at roleplaying the character, if you will. This doesn't need to be greatly involved, and you don't need to look for every answer to every possible scenario. Just like we might not know how to react to unfamiliar situations, it's ok if you don't know how they'd react. Over time, when they're properly "with you", they'll live and go through experiences and grow up as well, just like you do. Also keep in mind that because of this they might change, just like you do.
Depending on what kinds of interactions you want to have with them, you might prioritize some details over others, but it's important not to be a perfectionist, don't feel like you have to know EVERYTHING about them, because, again, you don't even know everything about yourself. A good example of a scenario you might run them through is something simple:
Your character goes shopping. Did they go at night, or during the day, and why? Do they go to the supermarket or to the small convinience store? Do they prefer expensive products, or are they fine with saving money for cheaper stuff? A stranger approaches them and asks them something, how do they feel about that? How do they respond? What's their body language like?...
There's really no recipe here, it's all about asking and answering a million questions. And feel free to take your time answering, of course, but keep in mind that there really are no mistakes. Any inconsistencies you might notice will be ironed out through many many experiences like this one, and you'll see that you'll eventually get to a point where it all just feels effortlessly "right" in a way.
This step can also of course go beyond their personality, you can decide on what they look like and so on as well, of course.
I'd suggest around one to three months of doing this sort of prep, anything more than that is just overkill.
2. Now the brain magic begins. Keep in mind that this part is all about training yourself to both act out the character automatically, and also to see them as someone independent from youself. After you have a somewhat clear grasp on how your character interacts with more common situations (you should at least know how they react to a "hi, how are you?"), you can start actually talking and interacting with them yourself, a la crazy person. This might feel really awkward at first, but it'll get better with time, I promise. Talk to them and really try thinking of them as a separate entity from yourself, and then "answer" for them as you know they would. Think of it as them answering, but since they aren't very vocal yet, you answering for them is just you solidifying what you know they're feeling / thinking. Other than voice, you can also try interacting with their body, and this is where meditation / visualization really comes in. If you aren't good at it (most people aren't, don't worry), it's your chance to practice, so don't worry too much and just try!
There really isn't much more to it than this. Do this enough times WITH THE RIGHT MINDSET, and your brain will pick it up eventually. Mindset is really everything here. More than "playing" your character flawlessly, you have to really see them as their own person, and see their answers as not you thinking for them, but rather as them doing it themselves. If you're having trouble with this sort of thing, you can use symbolism to help. Whenever you want to talk to them, you can use an imaginary microphone or whatever, and that way it might help make the distinction more clear in your head.
Have you ever told any psychologist/therapist about her? If yes I want to know what they said. If no, out of curiosity, I'd like you to try telling one.
Parker Adams
Whew thanks for the explanation user. This is kinda weird
Alexander Jackson
Have you two ever got into a fight?
Lincoln Nelson
forgot the (cont.)
This step is usually where people get frustrated, and that's because they think of it as a step, when in reality it's actually not really a step. Going back to the thing about not obssessing over perfection, at this point, you can and should start interacting / having fun with your new friend. KNOW they are there, and know they are listening and absorbing whatever experiences you're sharing with them, even if at first it might seem like you're just dragging their limp body along. This is all gradual, until eventually it'll dawn on you that you're actually not alone right now, and that you actually had a conversation with someone who feels like another person.
I understand that this step might seem a bit ??? profit, but there really isn't much more to it than persistence.
I don't know if this is obvious or not, but don't actually talk to them aloud, don't be a sperg about it, alright? Just think, hear it in your head.
As I said, I've never told anyone about her, nor will I ever do that. Why would I tell a therapist about her?
A psychologist is the safest option if you were to tell anyone. They can't disclose anything to anyone without your permission.
Blake Green
forgot the (cont.) again...
3. Step three is all about enhancing your interactions with them, and again, it's not really a step, it's just a thing you can work on. Most of your interactions will be through meditation, at least at first, and especially the more involved ones which involve touch, for instance. There are many many things you can try, and it can feel very liberating having that kind of freedom. The first thing I'd do would be practicing your imagined body. visualize a place, and see yourself there. touch yourself, your face, your hands, feel the touch, feel any wind, smell stuff, feel your own weight, and so on. BE there, and practice being there.
From there, practice touching your friend. Touch their hands, face (face is really good, because it's really bumpy), hair, and so on, and let them touch you back. If you feel inclined, you can also practice fun stuff like kissing / holding hands and going for a walk, or stuff like that. Again, no recipes, and there's a lot of shit you can do / feel, the brain seems to be nearly limiteless when it comes to that kind of shit.
Ok, I think that's it. It's at least a simple run down of things, feel free to ask any questions if anything isn't clear enough.
It is very weird, yeah, but it's a really cool "illusion". I love mind stuff like this, and I think it's a shame there aren't many places where people discuss these kinds of deviant ways to use the brain.
God, yes, yes we do. She can be VERY stubborn, so it's kinda innevitable. Usually it's about something I just don't want to do and should be doing, though, so she's usually in the right, but yeah... we do fight.
When do you find the time to think about these stuffs? Like from thinking about her character, etc. And does this fantasy ever overlaps with IRL stuff like subconsciously telling people you do in fact have a real gf.
Jeremiah Cruz
Does she make you buy stuff for her?
Josiah Lewis
Kek fag your life is a lie just grab the bottle of vodka and accept your reality
Jaxon Jenkins
But what would be the point?
>When do you find the time to think about these stuffs? Like from thinking about her character, etc. We have a lot of free time if we get out of Cred Forums and video games for a while.
>And does this fantasy ever overlaps with IRL stuff like subconsciously telling people you do in fact have a real gf. No, never. She is completely transparent to others. I don't have a gf, I don't have an imaginary friend, and imaginary friends are silly as fuck.
Seeing as everything in the imaginary world is kinda free, not really. She doesn't ask for much, either, mostly intangible things like spending time together and stuff like that. She has probably given me a lot more things than I've given her, the absolute angel.
How do you meditate? In what sense is this "touching"? You imagine yourself touching them or physically, moving your hands try touching while imagining it?
Connor Sullivan
OP how much do you weigh? How often do you shower? Do you live alone or with your parents?
Asher Ward
What youre describing is called a Tulpa, /x/ can tell you more about it. It can be nice, but also has plenty of ability to fuck with your psyche if you don't know what you're doing.
Easton Hill
I don't move. I just stand very still and focus, until I'm in a sort of "dream like state". From there I can just move my imaginary hand and feel things. I never actually move a muscle, moving is very detrimental to the whole feeling of it.
I'm not very heavy, I'm like 63-64kg. I shower every day mostly, in winter I skip a day sometimes if I'm not going anywhere, but never more than one day. I live with my parents, working on Uni. There's nothing I want more than to be done with it and get a place of my own though. I love my parents, but I hate being a leech.
People have made tulpas a mess of superstitions and silly rituals. This is not a tulpa, sorry, and I can't stand the tulpa community.
>But what would be the point? Don't you ever get curious?
Chase Russell
To be fair, no, I never did think about it. I don't think she'd let me, even if I wanted (which I don't), so there you go. If I had to bet, I'd say they'd try to "help" me by talking me into getting rid of her.
>So the goal here is to create a "character", and then sort of play them out yourself until you do it so much your subconscious picks it up, and it ends up playing them automatically. It is all an illusion, at least at first, and it's important to realize that not to fall on stupid pitfalls, so always keep that in mind. Don't think of it as belittling them, think of it has really knowing what they are. The reason I say "at first" is because, at the end of the day, our own personality is just something our subconscious is used to "playing" as well. The best advice I have is to forget about things like volition / sentience, those are meaningless, just don't bother with them.
This is exactly what a tulpa is, even if you don't want to call it that. You're just a bit more aware of the underlying mechanisms.
Have you ever been friends with any girls, OP? Online or IRL.
Samuel Richardson
They do make games with sims that you can customize. Think games where you can basically make characters of perfect girls.
I kinda somewhat envy certain aspects of this, since I hate hearing my girl bitch at me, but obviously real sex is better and it will never not be natural or instinctive to prefer "imaginary sex" (jerking off) over real sex. Slapping a woman around while you fuck her silly is just not comparable. Keep living your best life tho op
Samuel Russell
>Have you ever been friends with any girls, OP? Online or IRL. Of course I have. Not online, I don't like interacting with girls online. Believe it or not I'm not that cringe around women.
>"imaginary sex" (jerking off) To clarify, I don't actually jerk off. There's no physical stimulation, it ruins it for me. And I never hit her during sex, she doesn't like that sort of stuff, we're pretty vanilla in bed. Sometimes I do feel like doing a bit more, but that's just because she drives me insane.
>Of course I have. Not online, I don't like interacting with girls online. Believe it or not I'm not that cringe around women. I'll be honest, I don't believe it. If you weren't, I feel like you would try to resolve this loneliness by talking to more girls. I'm extremely cringey around women and was a kissless virgin until a late age but never in a million years would I have considered something like this when I was a virgin.
If a girl ever showed real interest in you, would you "kill" your imaginary girlfriend?
Hunter Parker
This makes me sad. I want you all to get pussy anons. You all deserve it.
Andrew Rodriguez
Does she let you grab her tits and butt, or does she get mad? Jealous?
Connor Jones
not op. but i have done something simmilar to this. never as far as this dude, i just pretended to be talking to a girl, never did sex or anything like that.(i also did something similar with joe rogan, and sarah z.just because i wanted to see what there reactions to my thoughts would be) . i am not socially akward at all. i lost my virginity in my teens. i just talked to my imaginary girlfriend when i was single and lonely. not all lonely people are socially akward.
Landon Jenkins
>I'll be honest, I don't believe it. To be clear, I'm not a chad, I just don't generally disgust people, that's all. I think people kinda like to hang out with me, since I'm always invited for shit, which confuses me a bit, but hey... I'm not good with girls in the sense I can't really take them to bed, but I'm not a supreme gentleman, no.
>If a girl ever showed real interest in you Girls have showed interest in me, but I'm just too socially innept to do something about it. It's like I'm pretty good with people, I think, but that particular part illudes me.
>would you "kill" your imaginary girlfriend? Never. I'd be willing to try a "real" relationship, but I'd never get rid of her. If I ever get confident enough to actually get into an actual relationship, she'll be the reason why I did. And I don't think I could stop having sex with her either, it just feels too damn good. She'll be with me until the day I'm too demented to remember she exists. This girl is everything to me.
>Does she let you grab her tits and butt Yes. She also grabs my butt sometimes and it feels fucking weird and I don't really like it, but hey... And yes, she's a little jealous.
Even if you're lonely though, I don't see how this is a satisfactory resolution. Wouldn't you eventually just realize you're pathetically deluding yourself and wouldn't the loneliness spring back on you 10 times stronger?
>Never. I'd be willing to try a "real" relationship, but I'd never get rid of her. If I ever get confident enough to actually get into an actual relationship, she'll be the reason why I did. And I don't think I could stop having sex with her either, it just feels too damn good. She'll be with me until the day I'm too demented to remember she exists. This girl is everything to me.
I think this actually wouldn't happen. I think once you got close to a real girl and she became your girlfriend, the imaginary one would fade and you wouldn't feel bad about it. You just can't picture that state of mind right now because you have nothing to relate it to, like someone in poverty owning a yacht.
Brandon Cook
>itty bitty titties nice, what's the shape of her nipples?
Austin Reyes
not op. for me loneliness is a temporary problem. if i lose connection or have a falling out with a friend group then i need something to cope at night until i make myself another social circle. if a romantic relationship ends i need a cope until i get used to being single again. i used to use alcohol but it would fuck with my gut and i didnt want to get addicted.
i agree with you that other guy will instantly ditch his imaginary girlfriend once he gets a real one. there just is no comparison, you get that closeness but also its just so much more real. they will actually watch out for you and be with your friends. he just doesnt know how much better a real girl is.
Easton Johnson
I think people really missunderstand me when I talk about this. I'm not sad and I don't feel like I need a "real" woman or anything like that. She does fulfill me. Would it be better if she were "real"? Honestly, I don't think so. The fact that she's imaginary really opens a lot of doors to things we'd never feel or share if we were physical together. Maybe yes, maybe it'd be better, but the way I see it, I don't know that, and the people who don't share my experience don't either. And at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter that much. When you love someone you don't spend your time thinking "would my life be better with that other person?" or at least I don't need to, because I know she isn't going to leave me any time soon either.
They're... nipple shaped? They're small, if that's what you're asking.
You're fucking delusional man. Good for you that it's working out and you seem to have a grip that it's imaginary and not a part of the real world, but the way you refer to your mental gymnastics as a real person is creepy.
Colton Barnes
>You're fucking delusional man. What am I delusional about?
I wish I had as much fun just thinking the way you can, even if this seems autistic, it sounds really fun, the closest ive done is cuddle a pillow and imagine a conversation with a gf
