Literally every criticism of Bernie you can accurately apply to Trump >Bernie is a cuck! actually Trump is a literal cuck >Bernie has never had a real job! actually Trump has never had a real job >b-b-but muh welfare! muh free shit! muh handouts! Trump gives billions and billions of dollars of government handouts to giant corporations in the agricultural industry, fossil fuel, defense contractors, and Israel, for nothing in return >Bernie is rich! Bernie has the lowest net worth of anyone in Senate (~1-2 mil) while Trump is a literal billionaire (although that's questionable because he hasn't given us his tax returns) who appointed other billionaires to his cabinet >b-b-but Bernie is lying! Trump literally lied about all of his promises. Bernie at least has a voting record. He voted against Iraq and the Patriot Act. He has consistently criticized the influence of billionaires and giant corporations. He voted against the bank bailouts. >b-b-but jews! Trump is the "most pro-Israel candidate" who approved an anti-BDS bill that allows states to punish people who protest Israel. He approved 38 billion dollars of aid to Israel. He named Jerusalem the official capital of Israel and moved the US embassy there. He's popular in Israel.
Bernie has regularly criticized Israel, disapproved of both of the bills above, and is unpopular in Israel
every single country in europe has free healthcare and free education and guess how many of them are communist? 0
Connor Rivera
Trump has more accomplishments than Bernie.
Landon Gray
I couldn't help but notice your pain. It runs deep. Don't worry- you'll have a new president in 2025. Maybe it will be Bernie. He might live that long.
How many people have died because of the long waiting lists? How many countries have been ruined by open borders? Europe is not an example to follow.
Owen Price
how many blacks do these countries have compared to america?
Andrew Morgan
Except that part where Bernie wants to take my money and give it to someone he think deserves it more because he’s a redistributionist prick.
Wyatt Wright
Bernie lost to some faggot literal who mayor from BFE. Dude matched Bernie delegate-for-delegate in NH last night.
James Allen
bernie won in new hampshire and iowa
Ethan Martinez
>How many people have died because of the long waiting lists? fewer than the number who die in america from lack of healthcare coverage >How many countries have been ruined by open borders? bernie doesn't support open borders >Europe is not an example to follow. not if you don't want a higher standard of living than now
Joshua King
>mostly white countries don't have good ideas that make them better it's because black people magically make worse systems preferable somehow
Owen Jackson
Private healthcare still exists in Europe, so if you're in such a hurry that waiting for treatment is'nt frasible you can turn to those. That being said, they do prioritize patients here in the public sector so it's likely you do get treated in time if you need to.
Also, free healthcare only means ppl don't just not go seek help because of the expenses. And I don't see how immigration politics tie in with healthcare issues.
John Morales
the reason that makes bernie the perfect candidate is literally the reason he'll never win: he actually wants what's best for you, average joe
Ayden Carter
huge tax cuts for the rich, raising taxes on the middle class with no benefits to show for it, failure to pull out of the wars like he promised, failure to build the wall like he promised, cuck to israel and saudi arabia, escalating with iran and venezuela because of their sweet sweet oil
Ryder Ramirez
Never understood polyfags on here. Are you here to listen to your own bs? Do you think you are going to change anyone's minds or influence anything at all?
Andrew Roberts
>And I don't see how immigration politics tie in with healthcare issues when they can't argue the policy they change the subject
Then you’re fucking dumb. If you have an amazing public healthcare system and let anyone come here and take advantage of it then that system is going to collapse within a decade.
>sanders misspeaks when talking about institutional racism while constantly working to address poverty >everybody else actually impoverishing people is therefore fine youtube.com/watch?v=Ikgh4JbAWUU
i don't think bernie meant to adopt being victimized by crippling sanctions by an unstoppable superpower
Brody Phillips
>LETs SAY THINGS WITH NO SOURCES! ok.... >Bernie Is an Elephant with rainbow farts! actually Trump is an Elephant that farts rainbows >BErnie once jerked off a horse and let the horse cum on his head! Actually Trump let a horse cum on his head >BERNIE FARTED AND I COULD NOT STOP MASTURBATING TO THE SMELL OF HIS GLORIOUS SHIT BURP Actually I jerk off to the though of Trump farting all the time.
>Being on the left I can just imagine things and that is all I need.
>Basic human right >Trying to cash in a basic human right when you are alone on an island...
If they are basic human rights - how come when you are alone on a deserted island you can't get any of muh "human rights"? ... Maybe ... just maybe .... Your definition of human rights is retarded.
Nicholas Price
fuck yes i'm ancom
Lucas Sanders
ah okay that is the single most retarded fucking analogy I've heard in my life, learn to logic you snowflake
Grayson Hall
What does being stranded on a desert island have to do with human rights?
Lincoln Hill
>doesn't realize humans are social animals and rights applies to societies
bernie is nice i guess but the only election he could win is for president of the clown club
Henry Sanchez
usa needs revolution, but all the wage slave republitards and democraps have stockholm syndrome
let bernie give them some class consciousness first
Kevin Howard
Literally what? One of the most advanced healthcare system in the world is in norway. Please do explain how people are taking advantage of it
Benjamin Kelly
yes and the education their children get is actually worth a shit and their infrastructure isn't crumbling. almost like it's some sort of whacky meritocracy where working earns you a basic standard of living. basic facts and common sense don't matter to trump's cult of personality however
the anti-communist propaganda in the USA is so strong that they're even scared of fucking welfare capitalism
Jason Long
>HUEHUE HEUE DAT IS WETARDED HUEHUE That is you... that was your counter argument. >What does being along on an island have to do with human rights? Because humans in their natural state have to create what they need around them.. this is how anyone thrives... this is how artists thrive when they are left alone to create - then by choice they trade what they create for what others create... What you want is a mandate by a state to force trade by gunpoint and call it a human right. In nature we are all alone man... you can't cash in free health care from an island but you can figure out what is healthy or not by your own mind. Depending on others makes you a bitch tbh. >Humans are social animals and rights apply to societies. Humans are also violent as fuck and wipe out societies. Also humans are fucking retarded... By wanting "the people" to run your shit you are basically turning control over to the people of WalMart to dictate your life. Yes we are social - by choice - not by force. You don't let any asshat into your house.
Bentley Anderson
he's leading the democratic primary, most popular senator in the countrie, every policy in his platform enjoys majority support, and polls show him beating trump by more than any other candidate. but the narrative is too juicy to let go
Welfare capitalism is fine as long as the capitalists are the ones getting the welfare.
Elijah Jackson
your own fault if you become a brainlet wagieslavie
Christopher Mitchell
Sorry, that still doesn't make any sense to me. One of us has hit the bong too hard today.
Nolan Ward
>Humans are also violent as fuck and wipe out societies. when you keep them poor sick and uneducated as you want to then yes, people fit the mold you push them into >Also humans are fucking retarded... By wanting "the people" to run your shit you are basically turning control over to the people of WalMart to dictate your life. Yes we are social - by choice - not by force. You don't let any asshat into your house. well the average person in america supports bernie's policies which give higher standards of living in first world countries so they're actually way less retarded than you. it is you, good sir, the dumber than average cunt whose opinion should be dismissed.
not necessarily people's fault they become wageslaves - that's just how capitalism work
shut the fuck up retard, stop eating anti-communist propaganda
Chase Harris
read political theory and history you cuntbag
Isaiah Carter
>all people in a capitalist society can be CEOs if they are smart enough no. how about we just build a meritocracy where people who work make fair money hmm?
>Keep them poor and sick and uneducated When you look at the cost of why healthcare and school is expensive ... it is admin costs.... and why are admin costs so high? Because of government compliance and regulations. There is a reason why people use to be able to pay for college with a part time job as opposed to a giant loan that ruins their life. >The average person in america supports bernies policies. My opinion should be dismissed. Bernie bent over to fucking Hillary and offered his anus to her in 2016... Wtf do you think he is going to do when the military industrial complex gets a hold of him? Why do you want to be ruled by average people?
>health insurance companies wouldn't be bloated and parasitic if it weren't for the government >healthcare isn't cheaper and more effective with single payer insurance even according to libertarian analysis and by example in the rest of the first world >bernie campaigned against trump therefore he's bought by the military industrial complex you're flailing kid
use his tax plan website to see if you even want his policies. It's really not that great for middle class or families. my income isnt crazy or even really far off standard, but he will cost me money and he wont get my vote. I hope that you guys can see past the memes and make an informed decision for yourselves
Eli Reed
That's why socialism in the US will work, it's the only country that won't be invaded, sanctioned by or otherwise destroyed by the US.
Grayson Richardson
>he will cost me money A single-payer Medicare for All system would reduce the amount the U.S. spends on health care by more than $2 trillion, a Koch brothers-funded study released Monday found
>use his tax plan website to see if you even want his policies. It's really not that great for middle class or families. trump's tax cut for the middle class turns into a tax HIKE after ten years, but the tax cut for the rich is permanent
I still wonder why the F you guys even vote - the braindead system only allows two biggest pieces of shit into the final competition, and even after one wins nothing really changes. Choice is a lie. There are no gods but yourselves. Fuck everything.
Ayden Ramirez
i'm not even socialist but i'm down with giving it a fair chance to work (somewhere else first)
Hmmmmm trump >has lied countless times >he has only helped the rich, and fucked the middle class >has not lived up to a single promise >and fucked over our foreign relations >made himself very rich with all his power
or bernie? >same message and goal for 35 years >worked towards those goals his entire career and has a long resume of ways hes helped his society >not a uncountable list of verifiable lies(unlike trump) >is a jew, but doesnt jew out like trump.
hmmmmmmmmm hmmmmmm hmmmmm id vote for him purely on the base of that he is less greedy and power hungry than trump.
yeah i support social democracy, aka welfare capitalism. it is demonstrably the most effective economic system ever implemented. also no, the democratic establishment does not by and large support social democracy (what bernie advocates) nor democratic socialism (the label bernie uses)
>Dude matched Bernie delegate-for-delegate in NH last night. Except for the part where he didn't.
William Reed
the USA does have a lot of democratic socialistic practices they just arent used to helping the middle class.
hell the gov spend a trillion helping businesses like GM, but the people cant even get universal health care(instead we line the pockets of the people who own the healthcare companies, despite literally every company with any sorts of rights or wealth having universal healthcare. our socialism is here to help the rich, thats pretty much our entire country.
TRUMP LOVES THE RICH! HES HELPED THEM OUT A LOT! HE IS THE RICH BERNIE 2020! EAT THE RICH!!!
Benjamin Rogers
>So Obamacare, that all Dems voted for, didn't solve the problem? Wasn't that what you faggots were selling? no, i never supported romneycare, a heritage foundation plan that was a big giveaway to the health insurance industry and the crowning achievement of conservative obama
>Then why does the United States have the largest economy in the world? because the 1 percent who control more wealth than the bottom 90 percent choose to measure the economy by metrics that don't represent the standard of living of the average person, like the stock market. however yes, america has more wealth and is therefore even more capable of implementing these policies successfully
>Bernie is a fucking communist The Red Scare ended over 30 years ago, faggot.
Ryan Adams
the top 3 people own more money than the bottom half of all of america trump wants to keep it like that. jews want to keep it like that. everyone who votes trump is literally a sheep.
BERNIE 2020
Connor Wood
Neither did the Republican's. Trying to change it some Heritage foundation idea that they dropped after the disaster that was Massachusetts, doesn't change the fact that Dems own it and now you expect us to trust you again. Doesn't work that way.
Anti-communist propaganda is still strong. I fucking hope to god USA becomes communist within the next 20 years before the world dies to its imperialist retardedness
Cameron Wood
All of this typed on a device that was made by a corporation. You have it so hard, with the evil 1% holding you down.
there's no ethical consumption under capitalism you retard - to participate in any change or i don't fucking know, survive and function in society, he is COERCED to support corporations.
Joseph Green
>i don't support bernie fighting the establishment dems because i hate the establishment dems youtube.com/watch?v=gKKe7r5qDuQ
Grayson Baker
I'm communist, and Norway is socdem not demsoc.
Owen Edwards
I'm not triggered. I think they're adorable. You are the ones who take them seriously.
>All of this typed on a device that was made by a corporation >implying corporations don't exist in denmark
Adam Morales
Most Americans don't know the difference between socialism, democratic socialism, social democracy, marxism, maoism and the other strains of far left ideologies, they just scream GOBBUNISM!
Robert Williams
speak for yourself I am on linux, with a Rpi that I bought second hand. but its hard to not own certain things and still live in society. This is the jew charm. They make you buy their shit. Want to be in society without a phone? Good luck signing up to anything( you need a phone number, often one that is not virtual) How are employers supposed to reach you? etc etc You cant do half of the shit you could of 10 years ago, because this piece of technology made my huge coorporations gatekeeps everything.
Ian Evans
>I'm not triggered. I think they're adorable. You are the ones who take them seriously. you are triggered and no, it's republicans that are obsessed with well intentioned teenagers who are concerned about the state of the world.
Isaiah Cruz
>40 million people living in poverty >"there are also rich people who can afford electronic devices, therefore poverty doesn't exist, eat shit commie"
Elijah Perry
You having trouble surviving? Do you not have any food? Can't smoke pot or drink? Don't have a flat screen television and video games to play? Is the world too big and scary for you?
keep voting for a party that will fuck you over, and squeeze every little bit of hours you have in your day, and money you have in your account, out of you like a fucking snake.
Connor Ross
You link to a campaign ad? Are you really that lame?
Anti-communist propaganda is so strong because boomers were brought up on lessons of how to be afraid. Communism demonized to the point where it was considered a civil service to report anyone with slightly communist beliefs to the FBI. Outrage of the Civil Rights movement. Etc.
it's almost like people who grow up in stable conditions have it better than people who don't
you're a wage slave with stockholm syndrome, stop supporting your fucking slavemasters jesus fuck
Benjamin Morgan
I’m voting for Bernie and when he gets into office I’m quitting my job
Jace Bailey
>if you aren't dying and have cheap pleasures in life then poverty doesn't exist >other countries don't have higher standard of living because of superior economic policy all that being said your pic convinced me to support being a serf. your plan worked. also >correctly solves captcha 8 times in a row >please try again how about fuck you captcha and fuck you Cred Forums
Time to grow a pair and man up. Get a trade, earn a living, and start building a life for yourself. You want me to pay for you because you can't figure shit out?
>neolib retard in office >wealth of like a fucking gjahzhillion >president: "america great" >libtards and republicans making 2$/hour: "WOOOT HE JUST LIKE MEEEEEEEE"
Gabriel Johnson
smart guy
Luke Nelson
>poor people are fucking retarded why don't they just start a business
Hudson Brown
Poor people have access to smart phones and computers. Don't give me that shit. The poor in this country live like kings compared to other countries. Why do you think they are begging to get in?
what? when did I say that? I told you that I wasnt on a device owned by a huge corporation, you silly shill
I earn 95k a year as a software engineer lol. I dont need more money, and I dont need any government help either. That doesnt mean I dont think the money that the government has should be used on bettering the middle class, rather than being funneled into the pockets of the rich. and I dont think our society should be ruled by the 1% Supporting bernie isnt all about getting free shit, thats literally a fox news meme, you boomer. Its about fixing our broken society. Trump promised the same thing, I was actually kinda for him 2016. But his actions have shown he really is just trying to get richer, and make his friends richer
Easton Baker
no it doesn't bother me if you make fun of republicans. you'll notice you brought them up and it's always republicans who do.
I'm a small business owner and I worked my butt off to do it. I'm proud of my accomplishments. Why don't you try working and accomplish something yourself? Why don't you save your money? Why don't you educate yourself? Is this too hard for you?
hot fucking take you retard, 40 million people are living in literal poverty slaving their ass off for their slavemaster so they don't literally die, whilst their porky CEO maximizes profit by lobbying for lower wages
shut the fuck up you retard
also, maybe stop supporting economic imperialism you absolute retard
Camden Garcia
are you literally retarded
it is fucking contradictory to suggest that everyone could start business - that's not how capitalism works you retard
have you read any fucking economics? Here's one: Das Kapital
Benjamin Thompson
see
Michael Lopez
>The poor in this country live like kings compared to third world countries >not first world countries though and even then
>all that being said your pic convinced me to support being a serf. You've already convinced yourself of being a serf. You are a communist. What do you think the people in communist countries are? You don't believe in upward mobility, because you are unable to get out of your own way and/or are lazy.
is this what its like to be a coorporate jew shill? getting a phone is like 15 bucks dude. Thats not really that big of a fucking privilege
like ooooooooooo poor people own a 15 dollar piece of equipment that is required to own in 2020 to live in normal society. They have it so easy lmao
Tyler Gray
even if that was true, which is not if you actually understood what communism is, serfs had a much more stable livelihood than most poor people have in USA lmfao
Austin Ross
this
Luke Morris
>You've already convinced yourself of being a serf. You are a communist. nope, i support regulated capitalism like in denmark, the demonstrably most effective economic system ever implemented.
I have to go back to work. Have a good time trying to convince yourself that you are unable to accomplish anything in your life because rich people exists. Kek.
>I dont need more money, and I dont need any government help either. That doesnt mean I dont think the money that the government has should be used on bettering the middle class, rather than being funneled into the pockets of the rich. and I dont think our society should be ruled by the 1% Supporting bernie isnt all about getting free shit, thats literally a fox news meme, you boomer. Its about fixing our broken society. Trump promised the same thing, I was actually kinda for him 2016. But his actions have shown he really is just trying to get richer, and make his friends richer
bye bye jew shill have fun being a sheep
Anthony Nelson
i don't own a phone because they seem like a waste of money to me and i'm still functioning in 2020. so posting this and then reading your post is baffling because they both contradict each other so badly.
Lucas Ramirez
And guess how many of those countries have any success with socialist systems? 2.
Austin Williams
please stop calling welfare capitalism "socialist". Learn to read political theory
Gavin Sanders
Remember when he went to college campuses to get naive young voters by saying FREE COLLEGE ILL PAY BACK LOANS YEEEAHHHH
Jayden Reyes
>any success with socialist systems? 2. All of them, actually. Socialist economic systems ≠ socialist government
James Roberts
I don't read irrelevant shit.
Caleb Wright
I live in 2020 and dont have a phone its p hard.
>everyone thinks I am weird. >no one can ever get ahold of me, and hits up my friends to reach out to me instead. >I try to get around the city, but its impossible >because everyone is assumed to have a gps in their pocket. >trying signing up to fetlife, and cant because they need a number >apply to jobs, cant becuase they wanna talk over the phone >try to sign up for petition, they want my number >incredibly disconnected from any form of pop culture >can barely date because everyone just dates from apps nowadays. still virgin >trying to do stuff with finincial services. cant because they need a number
like yea its fine if you are a neet hermit, like me. but anyone who really wants to do something with their life would have a hard time without a phone
Gabriel Lee
>Instead of creating a future for my children that is better than what I had, I will demand they face the same hardships I had and use the position of power I currently hold to create an obstacle for them every step of the way.
phone is 30 bucks at walmart for cheapest touchscreen one and 10 for button phone, 1 month phone cards cost 25 bucks for the cheap ones (which is all you really need). if you can't afford the 25 bucks a month just get a free texting app and stop by the library or anywhere with wifi like once a day or two
Straw man argument. Some of us who don't like Berni don't like trump either.
Yet Bernei will never win because his own party will always throw him under the bus. His Ideas will never work because they require giving power to the vary people who caused them. That being the wealthy elite over bloated Federal government! These chldren want him to be president so they can have all there mistakes wiped clean by tax payers. At the cost of there own personal liberties.
Sorry but nothing you Bernie bros say is going to work on me because I used to think like you and then one day I opened my eyes and faced reality. In reality people are aweful and easily corrupted. Wile Bernie just wants to give aweful corrupt more power.
>I used to think like you and then one day I opened my eyes and faced reality. Peak cringe
Andrew Scott
Won’t matter. Bernie won’t get out of the primaries.
Superdelegates will fuck you over again. Mark my words.
Jaxon Jackson
well for a long time it was out of principle. I just didnt want a phone. Now there were literally so many hurdles when it came to jobs that I felt forced to buy one. about 2 weeks ago I got, and yea I am just using free texting app stuff, and the wifi at my house. its going fine so far
