Trump and the GOP is why we don't have free healthcare

he was born in the US and moved to Australia

Imagine being fine living a world where we would rather watch out fellow man die than do something fot them trhout expecting anything in return.

Trump's been president 3 years.

Maybe someone else is responsible that tour pet issue hasn't been addressed to your liking.

Poor people are already on Medicare. Who are you give more treatment to?

>muh free gibs
found the nigger and/or guy with an 'art' degree.

No, you don't understand. It's all DRUMPF'S fault. Everything. Hitler rose to power because ORANGE FUCKING MAN allowed it. He's that bad.

>tfw hard working artist
>didnt even get a degree
>just super passionate about that shit
>tfw make a decent amount of money from it
>tfw cant talk about it with my mates because theyll instantly assume im some sort of faggot libtard

People are super passionate about sucking dick and make good money from that too, still makes them a faggot user, no getting around it.

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Damn, can't argue with that solidass logic. I'm gonna come out to my family right now.

Ive been on both ends. When I was living on the fucking streets I still didnt want universal healthcare because it's selfish as fuck. There are ways to get care, and you have to think of the majority, not the fucking minority.

They'll never ever let it go cuz "Orange man is LITERALLY HITLER" fucking morons

you could always tell them your views on NOT being a libtard faggot unless your too aspie for that simple of a solution to the problem you made in your own head

The majority can take care of itself, idiot. We have to help the overlooked minority that can't help itself.

You caught me. The whole story was completely fabricated. I don't have a job as an artist. Or a job period. Or friends. Or something I'm passionate about. Oh god...

"have to" no. no we fucking dont. people working their asses off in the middle class dont deserve to be taxed to living hell because of the poor.

What's your point?

I dont want "free" anything from the government. Retarded zoomers

that was not the part of your story i thought was fabricated. im saying if you worry that your friends think youre a faggot liberal-just tell them otherwise.
reading comprehension numbnuts.

YES. we really fucking do have to help them. If we don't help your own fellow men, we're no longer human. I'd gladly pay a few more cents in taxes to do that. How the fuck can you sit there and say wouldn't? Like, what the fuck is WRONG with you? People like you who would greedily hoard their money don't fucking deserve it.

Fuck you, let's get rid of 4 billion people then we can start talking about "free" healthcare.

>Fuck you
And there it is. You are not stating your politial stance. YOu are making a personal attack on me and the poor because yor hearts it full of hae. FUCK NAZIS.

youre a fucking imbecile. "few cents" no. a LOT more than that mouth breather.
"hoarding money" oh yeah, like all those middleclass families working overtime just to afford mortgage and food for their kids only to have MORE gouged from them for some junkie on the street, or an illegal immigrant. get FUCKED. this country will never be socialist you commie fuck, get used to capitalism.

"Nazis" that also was a blanket statement with no evidence. You cannot possibly be older than 16-26. If you are then you need to seek mental help.

Over my dead body, fascist. I'll see this country burn to the ground before I give up on basic human rights for all.
Stop posting any time.

Of course it is, you stupid fuck. If you didn't have it, and became ill, you would certainly miss it like nothing else.

You don't have free healthcare because you live in a country that can't even switch to metric units of measure without riots happening. It has nothing to do with politics. Stupid, burger.

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>Trump and the GOP is why we don't have free healthcare.
Nothing’s for free, you fucking child.

If the metric system is so great, how come metric sockets are made for 1/4" and 3/8" drive ratchets?

Not if there were better alternatives, which a free market provides and he doesn't have.

Necessity.

I like this user. It really boils down to what kind of society you want to live in. If you're a selfish fuck, and don't give a shit about anyone else than yourself, fine. But if you're the kind of human with the capacity of empathizing with other human beings, perhaps even without knowing them, healthcare for all, among other things is what you want. The problem is there are too many selfish fucks out there, and that severly fucks up the world for me.

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There are more things in life that are free, than there are things you have to pay for. And a world where that isn't true, is a fucking hellscape.

you leftists nuts are actually fascist by definition. keep sucking bernies dick til his next heart attack

Yeah, that would be true if there actually was such a thing. Free markets always makes everything worse. In the case of healthcare, not even cheaper.

that picture is laughably inaccurate and hypocritical all in one. damn liberals are fucking weak minded soft asses

our free market got fucked by insurance companies

Name one thing that's free and I'll point out how it's actually not.

You just checked almost every box in that pic, in only two sentences, trump boy.

You'd have made great Reich propaganda during ww2.

air

Yeah, everyone should have to pay individually.

WRONG. You actually pay for it by spending energy to physically suck it into your body. Better luck next time.

artists are gaybas fuck even if they aren't libs anyway

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would be a lot cheaper without so many middle men

Wow, just wow. That's one hell of a logic twister. In typical right wing fashion, you took one topic, and pivoted it to something completely different. Good for you, Kelly-Anne

Air still is free, though.

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>one bill gets dropped from your monthly payments
>not even close to your most-taxing bill to be paid
>get taxed MORE to cover "free" government-subsidized healthcare
>options limited to what the government approves FOR you
>mandated to have it and get fined if you don't
>no meaningful net change in your monthly bills
>medical service is garbage when you really need it
>many things aren't even covered by government-subsidized healthcare
>welfare healthcare was already available as is
>the most desperate of people that need it don't even take the initiative to apply for it
>elect to go to ER instead
>still do even with new healthcare system
Let the filth of society die if they want, they choose to die daily.

The free market works, you don't have to buy and drive prices up.

This. Thankfully Trump made them have to tell people prices of medications and surgeries awhile back, at least it gives people a choice.

literally wrong. i have more in the blue than the red. that picture is just plainly one-sided.

Go on, just try to put the air into your lungs without working for it. Stay mad, libtard.

one ISNT a loud jew

and obama's administration built the detention centers, deported more immigrants, and killed civilians with airstrikes. which one's worse?

not true

thank you. common fucking sense

Who will be stained by the acquittal? Top kek.

Acquittal =/= lack of guilt.

HONK

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>fucks up the world for me

You just want more handouts you lazy piece of shit

thats the left for ya

Just sayin.....

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Impeachment will be retracted when Republicans take the House anyways lmao

Wow, he's been NOTHINGED. DRUMPF is FINISHED.

The thought of this makes the paid shills start frothing

We'll impeach the fucking house then. Whatever it takes.

Bleep bloop.

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The funny bit is that if the democrats take both houses then they can impeach trump again and fastrack a conviction. There’s no double jeopardy on impeachments. Kek trump is fucked no matter what. This idea has already been floated by pelvis kekkekkek
Cope.

free healthcare doesnt exist, and dont talk about europe i live there, retard

He literally still is your president. Impeachment means nothing. Let me know when you actually accomplish something.

>commie
my sides that you are still trying to Milhouse this shit

>nonsequitur

Double jeopardy is a static concept of law. If you want to amend laws go right ahead but as it stands, that's not a possibility.

Non-sequitor.

There are no paid shills. It's just your disability collecting cancer having, dad fuckin, drunk ass.

You should look up the meaning of words before using them, kid.

>wrong

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Not in impeachment’s frendo. Sure trumps lawyers can bitch and moan about it, but guess who rules on the impeachment - oh that’s right the senate. So if the senate and congress are both democrat then trump is fuuuuuuuucked,
Enjoy Impeachment 2.0
Cope.

He’s not muh President shill.

>deflection by false implication

Enjoy getting savaged by SCOTUS then lol

nice try Boris

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Just sayin.......

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no u

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>completely ignoring the point

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>moving the goalposts
>btfo

>a few cents
Maybe if you're making 15k a year. You sound like a child.

Nobody cares, just go pay for a doctor

Huh, didn't know Trump forced that dumb nigger Obama to pass that disastrous Obamacare bullshit a decade ago that caused everyone's healthcare bills to skyrocket. Thanks for the info, OP.

You are on disability. You have opinions about taxes. Why lol? You don't pay any.

OP's Tendra - a well known discord tranny. He's just bragged about posting this thread in RESETEra's discord server. He's not even an American.

Idiot. Who presides over the Senate trial? TOPKEK

FUCK YOU, YOU TRANSPHOBIC PIECE OF SHIT!

either you're still on mommy and daddy's insurance, you're a troll or just retarded. my guess is the first one....kid

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>nig derangement syndrome

Hi Tendra. Go dilate your fake pussy before it heals closed permanently, you disgusting freak.

You have no fucking right to dox me, motherfucking Trumpster fascist mother fucker!!! I'm tired of you Cred Forums alt riech fucks stalking me!!

OH NO NO NO

Go back to RESETEra, tranny trash.

Lol what? What would lead you to believe I'm on disability?

Just sayin.......

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I'm sure those 42% aren't for health care only.

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HOW DARE YOU!!!

He mad.

>defending socialism for the 1%

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Huh. You didn't start a witchhunt on your own guy. You don't say.

sure is some samefagging in here

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Lol what? What would lead you to believe I'm on disability?

Ain't nobody in this thread in Canada getting taxed 42%.

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Where do you work?

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Equifax.

>this country will never be socialist

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Public_services_of_the_United_States

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Show me the proof that windmills don't cause cancer, libtard.

We're going to purge that commie shit some day, don't you worry, libtard.

Why are you online at ~4 am on a Monday morning?

>socialist derangement syndrome

still wrong!

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>some day
Nostradamus faggot lol

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When? You KKK guys have been talking about this since before Texas was a state. Get on with it already.

It isn't 4am here. There are other time zones than the one you live in. That said, I do wake up pretty early to eat breakfast and work out before work. Shit that wouldn't even enter a lazy fuck's mind apparently.

Laugh it up, libtards. A day is coming when our descendants won't have to give up their hard earned money for your gibmedats.

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I just don't think any given person can be handed a death sentence by an insurance company's actuarial panel that decides whether or not to cover a life-saving medication.

Heathcare shouldn't be for-profit. Republicans know it shouldn't. Republicans only care about providing healthcare when they can use it to rape the taxpayer.

Example:
Pretty much anyone can get free dialysis if their kidneys fail. Dead kidneys? Sign up for medicare, you essentially get a free exemption. Private heathcare doesn't usually cover extended dialysis treatment for years while you wait for a new kidney. But, old Tricky Dick Nixon signed the bill that basically guarantees federal money to pay for that service because it looks really bad when your supporters are all dying from kidney disease. So the government, led by Republicans, decided to allow any greasy private equity firm to start a dialysis clinic, knowing it's easy money from Medicare and that Americans are only getting fatter.

That's basically what M4A is going to be in the US. Smaller insurance companies, way more exploitative private clinics. The vultures will just follow the money.

And sure, your taxes will go up. But you're not going to have absurd medical costs. There will be more economic freedom for people to open businesses when they're not concerned with heathcare coverage. No one will put off buying a house, or car, because their medication is artificially inflated by 3000%.

It will ultimately be a good thing.
So vote Bernie, motherfuckers.

Shitty "memes" aren't proof, libtard.

>libtard

is that all you got Cletus?

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>that commie shit

lol, what

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Shut up, libtard.

kek, everyone didnt have "free" health care under obamer either.

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No u!

The turdtard, when presented with facts retreats in insult.

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You've been online since 4 and probably long before that. You're lying. You aren't going to work today or any day.

I'm not insulting you, I'm calling you what you are and telling you to shut up which, by the way, you AREN'T DOING, libtard.

Left can't meme.

>a day is coming
When?
>soon
Lol ok

REEEEEEEEEEE

since you got it started, keep proving me right, turd

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Not soon enough, libtard.

Tell yourself whatever makes you feel better about your life.

>Trump and the GOP is why we don't have free healthcare.

thank god, a national health plan would be a fucking disaster. the government can't run anything without seriously fucking it up.

And cunts. Don’t forget they’re cunts too.

My life rips. You're the one on disability pretending to have a job crying about all the things people are doing to you to hold you down lulz.

Yeah but when? You seem pretty sure. Did you guys set a date or is it still a might not ever happen type of thing?

>liberal derangement syndrome

Eat a bag of dicks, you soy-loving douchebag.

Fake Canadian spotted.

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>stage two Liberal Derangement Syndrome

It's happening. You're not gonna know when it's happening until it's happening but it IS happening.

Soy has been proven to not increase the amount of female hormones in the body.
It is an excellent source of protein and promotes good muscle growth.
Saying someone likes soy is akin to saying someone is jacked.

Yeah when is it habbedig? I'm not going to be afraid of some nebulous prognostication bullshit when the only evidence is a vague anonymous threat.

I am jacked and I was a leftist long before I went vegetarian. I'm shredded on that good bean protein.

Well, given you’re this much of a pussy, I doubt you’re jacked. But soy or not, you are clearly a huge asshole. Go jerk off to Bernie Sanders’ communist taint.

When I need to jerkoff, I always choose Bernie girls.

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Plus you are healthy as fuck compared to the average trumptard!
This is why they all want guns so much - they know we are stronger

Free healthcare is a myth. Go to bed son.

Why are commies so incapable of a good meme?
They try soo hard, and yet it is never even remotely funny

I would ask her to go bowling and then maybe have some Chipotle and drop her off and text her some lulz and then a few days later maybe grab a coffee and chill on my couch and make a move on her and have fun all night and then get into a healthy relationship with her and have a few kids and buy a house with a three car garage if she was into it. She'd probably got to yoga and lift sometimes to stay healthy and experiment with different types of ethnic cuisine with me.

>wondering
>can be done
>within your own head
>you do have an inner monologue
>right?

Nothing is free. Someone has to spend years of their life and lots of money to go to med school. And there needs to be professors who also spend years of their life and lots of money in school. And running hospitals cost a lot of money. How can any of this be free?

Even if you tax the richest people in the United States 99%, you will still fall short in meeting healthcare needs if you're trying to provide for everyone. Especially so once doctors and hospitals and other health care services start raising their prices because they know the government will pay whatever they want.

Also, unlike many other parts of the world, Americans aren't healthy by nature. American lives are very cushy, very little physical work on average, not much strenuous walking, and diets unconstrained by availability or price. America's healthcare needs are higher than most countries because America is unhealthy.

And don't even get me started on how America can't afford health care because of its thousands of other welfare programs.

Epically retarded copypasta A+

Epic retard who can't search whether or not this was actually copied.

>sick person

TDS, get it treated, since you won't be cured until Jan 2025, then this happens.

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Lol what a fucking liar

>If our PM wasnt a racist with a spending addiction it would be a lot easier.
And you voted for who, Scheer?

Ha. No. Subsidizing markets and deregulation to enable monopolies ruins everything. Schmuck.

>liberal derangement syndrome
That sounds familiar, but yes liberals are deranged.

You're a clump of cells and a parasite, abort yourself.

>The free market works, you don't have to buy and drive prices up.
Are you retarded? Yes, when you are injured and need to be patched up, YOU HAVE TO BUY

Yeah I find the anti-intellectualism feelings they have fascinating.
Like they have basically been convinced that smarter and more educated people are all lying to them, and that they are so so smart for now being a part of the club of 'seeing through their lies'
It would be funny if it weren't so pathetic.

If you are starving, you need to buy food. Lolwtf is your point?

The reality is, most PEOPLE go with their feelings, not logic.
The difference seems to be what those feelings are.
The left, in a nutshell, is ok with some people abusing the system as long as that system provides help to those who truly need it.
The right, in a nutshell, is ok with people who truly need help being deprived of it, as long as those they don't approve of cannot benefit from it.
The leftist feels good helping his fellow man.
The rightist feels good by making people he doesn't like suffer.

Example, a common opinion shared by people on the right: Forgiving student loan debts would be a slap in the face to those who paid theirs off
So, in other words "People having easier than I did makes me feel bad. Do not hurt my feelings. Younger generations should have it just as hard as I did"
Isn't making life easier with more opportunities for future generations kind of the point?
We should stifle human progress because... it makes you feel bad?
But no, its the left who are snowflakes with soft feelsies.

You said you don't have to buy
I said that is incorrect
That is my point

yeah, pretty much.

still wouldn't be free though, your taxes would pay for it.

>irrational, emotional, illogical schizophasia

>Imma build some wall and make poor spics pay for it
Cons: OHHMAAGAAHHHDD YEEESSSSS
>well IM gonna make the billionaires who've been exploiting the masses for years finally pay their fair share and use it to help your fellow countrymen
Cons: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>dismissive, triggered, not an argument

If you don't need super expensive or comprehensive health care plans because you are generally healthy and take care of yourself, then you don't need to buy very expensive healthcare plans. of course if you get a gunshot wound, you have to pay for it one way or another, through insurance or your own money. But that's exactly how food works too.

You can buy super expensive food or super cheap food but if you're starving you still have to buy food. Free markets work off supply and demand. If you absolutely need health care, then you buy it one way or another. That is part of the demand.

Sometimes I wonder how people cannot understand this.

We need to ban the republican party.

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Yet the govt spends more of it's GDP on health than most "free healthcare" countries...

Sounds like we're getting ripped off and should renegotiate this bullshit.
I don't think "hurr durr free healthcare" is the way to go but I also think we're getting shafted pretty hard when there's countries that allocate less % of their GDP (and their GDP per capita is ridiculously small compared to ours).. and they get more out of it, especially in education and healthcare.

I really thought Trump would be THE guy to get us a deal on this shit, too.

Almost as if the Conservative party fights for the rich only... You know, for their owners.

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kek. trump is a shitty deal maker.

Trump and Epstein railed her

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If the economy has to be destroyed to take care of people, then it deserves to be destroyed.
Money will always protect money.
We must elect people who will protect people.

Everyone gets sick at some point in there life. There are certain diseases you could get despite living a totally healthy lifestyle. This idea that you dong need health care if your healthy is hilariously naive.

Also, it's economically retarded. The most cost effective way to sell healthcare is to get as many healthy people in the pool as possible to reduce costs. No part of this is economically coherent

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The letter H.

Health care is never “free” you stupid americunt

Democrats: * begin depositions *
Republicans: WE NEED OPEN HEARINGS!
Democrats: Okay.

Republicans: * unanimously vote against open hearings *
Democrats: * issue subpoenas for documents and witnesses *
White House: * refuses everything *

Republicans: There's no evidence!
Democrats: * begin open hearings *
Republicans: It's all hearsay!
Witnesses: I heard it straight from the President's mouth.
Republicans: Ukraine hacked our election!
Witnesses: That's a pro-Russia narrative that holds no weight in truth.
Republicans: CHALUPA!

Republicans: Trump isn't being given a chance to defend himself.
Nadler: Now is your time. Come present your case.
Trump: Ha ha nope.
Republicans: Trump still isn't being given a chance to defend himself.

It's almost like everything they do is in bad faith...

America would never allow free healthcare regardless of who's president

no u

Based poster with an actual fucking brain in his head. Probably not american.

Without bad faith republicans would have no faith at all.

my sides

don jr has chick hips

Saved

SeXXY baby. Also caption the shit WHEN YOU DEFINITELY AREN'T WEARING 6 INCH LIFTS

>stage three liberal derangement syndrome

Conservatism is an inherent batshite crazy ideology.
Remember that it was created in response to the French Revolution to protect and wealth and power of aristocrats.
As a fundamental, but often unstated belief that all ideologies in the conservative cluster share is: there should be an in-group which the law protects but does not bind, and an out-group which the law binds but does not protect.
The differences between the conservative ideology is how determine who gets to be in which group.
"Classical" conservatism uses blood-right inheritance to determine group membership.
Neo-liberalism uses wealth to determine group membership.
Neo-conservative is a variant of neo-liberalism which is openly pro-military colonialism.
Libertarianism uses property ownership to determine group membership. It's similar to Neo-Liberalism, but they place property rights so highly that they would have protected a slave owners property rights over a slave's civil rights.
"Social" Conservatism uses religious observance to determine group membership.
Fascism use national and racial identity to determine group membership.
If you are a rich, white, Christian male, all of these groups want to put you in the protected in-group.

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Actually, this is true. UHC was explored in the 90s and heavily attacked by the GOP just like they've done for everything that helps people since. The GOP are nothing but grifting criminals and liars and have been since the 1970s.

>TDS
>LDS

Still not actually a thing you pathetic retard. All the real disorders are tracked and studied in the DSM-5. You look utterly RETARDED when you try to claim otherwise. Sorry, right wing trash don't get to just invent diseases as a way for them to escape debates. It doesn't work that way.

and this is what passes for a Liberal Arts college education.

That picture is extremely accurate, actually. Cry harder.

I can't believe this^ retarded faggot actually fell for that.
But then again, right wingers ARE dumber than the dirt we walk on, so....

free? it's not free anywhere, someone has to pay for it, did you mean single payer?

A day in the life of an American:

This morning, I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power company regulated by the US Department of Energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility. After that, I turned on the TV to one of the Federal Communications Commission-regulated channels to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined the weather was likely to be like in my area today using satellites designed by the the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US Department of Agriculture inspected and certified food. I had a bit of a headache, so I took a pharmaceutical drug which has been determined as safe and effective for human consumption and dosed to within 0.001 grams of effective substance per unit. I am confident in its quality, knowing that the lot and batch tracking system used in manufacturing would result in entire product yields of this drug being destroyed and investigated if it was found to deviate by so much as a few micrograms of anything not listed in its ingredients by the Food and Drug Administration.

A day in the life of an American Part II:

At the appropriate time as regulated by Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the US Naval Observatory using the Atomic Clock, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration-approved automobile and set out to work on roads built and maintained by the local, state and federal Departments of Transportation. I was running a bit early, so I stopped to purchase more fuel that was of a quality and consistency determined by the Environmental Protection Agency to be safe for my vehicle's engine. I did so using legal tender issued as promissory notes in exact, specific quantities by the Federal Reserve Bank. While there, I walked over to a standardized blue mailbox and deposited my mail to be collected and sent out by the US Postal Service for prompt delivery. After work, I picked up my kids from their public school, and drove them home to our house which had not burned down in my absence thanks to the hundreds of state and local building codes that went into its construction and inspection by the fire marshal prior to my purchasing it. I was also pleased to note that my possessions were in the exact places I left them that morning, thanks to the deterrence and work of the precincted police department system, Sheriff networks and even the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

After that, I logged onto my computer and used the Internet, developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration and I posted on the FOX NEWS website about how SOCIALISM is bad because you can't trust the government to do anything right.

>implying it's capitalist now
oh you poor dumb cuck

Government tax-subsidized, actually.

It's a perfect idea. take ALL the benefits and welfare away from corporations and billionaires and give them to a new pool like Social Security and Medicare are and label it "Universal Health Care". This is actually an idea Clinton tried to implement. Time to get the Republican leeches the fuck out of our government and implement it fully.

Seriously people are stupid. Every doctor I talked to said they would never have wasted their time becoming a doctor to be in that type of system. Doctors already HATE MEDICARE/CAID They despise it. Wait times to see doctors in a country this large will be overwhelming. By my neck of the wood even with our present health care if you go to the ER you could sit there for 14 hours before seeing a doctor. No bed, a stretcher in some hallway..90 percent of the rest of the people in the ER don't speak a word of english and won't be paying a bill.

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>Every doctor I talked to said they would never have wasted their time becoming a doctor to be in that type of system.
So you haven't talked to any doctors, is what you are saying?

I’m sure that’ll go alot like the way it did with Trump. You know making you faggots look retarded and not actually getting anybody removed from office top kek

PROTIP: HMOs are not doctors, though many seem to think they are qualified to speak like they are.

Canada doesn’t have a military. A well organized American suburb could probably topple Canada’s military in a week and a half.

Why is Canada able to do this? Because america protects them. Yall are welcome for your low tax rates but if you were actually self sufficient those numbers would be dramatically unrealistic

Holy fucking shit this is going in my cringe compilation. Jesus the left can’t meme

christian's like watching things die just like their islamist counterparts.

it works everywhere else yes, but murricans are way too individualist and brainwashed to adopt this idea

Thank god. At least there is one good thing about him.

He spoke with Drs. Pepper and Scholl.

Perfect

The problem is that we don't have a homogeneous population. If we were an all White country, I would be more inclined to help lift the less fortunate. I will not however give money to lazy welfare niggers and illegals.

Thanks. My mother works as a liaison between pharma companies and the FDA and its foreign equivalents so I know a LOT about what goes into the regulations and controls that drugs go through to keep people safe. It's what makes my blood boil when childlike libertarians and right wing deregulation enthusiasts try to claim that the market should "self regulate".

The chances of them holding the house is very slim at best. The chances of flipping the Senate are non-existent. Enjoy 4 more years of Trump.

Are you utterly retarded? The Senate is a given. the House will remain STRONGLY blue and Trump is being thrown the fuck out in force.

2017: Blue Wave
2018: Blue Tsunami (retakes the House and almost Senate)
2019: Bluemageddon
2020: BLUENIHILATION. END THE MOTHERFUCKER.

The GOP will likely not even survive their treachery and complicity under the enemy Trump. Graham knew this was the end of their party and he was right.

Perhaps if people on both sides of the political spectrum took the time to research all relevant information that has contributed to the design behind whatever point they’re arguing, and actually based their argument solely on the extrapolated information attained from those facts, I think the majority of feuds between the left and right would end. Unfortunately this will most likely never happen since humans are mostly tribal and emotional by design.

Not many actually care to invest the time and effort to resolve issues to a degree that’s genuinely logical and functional. Seems most people care about is “winning” the argument, regardless of truth or ramifications of making such factually empty stands.

You dont follow the news of any kind outside facebook do you....

If you have an internet connection, you are probably in the income bracket which would see the biggest tax increases to make "free" healthcare possible. Enjoy being robbed of 50% of what you make for the luxury of using state ran healthcare institutions. You do like going to the DMV, don't you?

you'd be better off telling people their auto insurances would go down with universal healthcare

free healthcare isnt free, canadian healthcare sucks dick and we pay 30% income tax to make it happen, I've spent over 100k on tax in the last 10 years and ive never been to the hospital, sure could use a hundred thousand dollars right now

Wow. Found the one "Canadian" who has a completely different experience of the Canadian system than every other Canadian. I've lived 2/3rds of my life in Canada and 1/3rd in the States. I've had exactly one bad experience in Canada (a misdiagnosis of carpal tunnel) out of hundreds, and over 20 bad experiences in the US so far out of perhaps 30.

Not to mention I live around people who don't have any health insurance at all here and are forced to go to the emergency room if they suspect they're dying. The US health care system is utter shit experiences for 1/4, fine for the healthy people who never have to use it, and deadly for far too many.

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wayne gretzky dubs of truth

>delusional

You aren't going to cope well the night of nov 3rd, are you poor little baby?

Screech in the street so we can continue laughing at you gauge wearing, dick sucking purple haired fagtrons.

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>I've spent over 100k on tax in the last 10 years and ive never been to the hospital,
that's about a 25 days stay in a hospital in the states.

>why we don't have free healthcare
we don't?
I though with, you know:
>promises made, promises kept
trump had "given us better health care than the ACA" (obamacare for you tards)

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>posted from mommies basement

we knew.

yeah ill take the 100k instead

that's just on average, one night for me in observation with a shot of dilaudid, 3 norcos and antibiotics was $12k

We have results. you have bullies and criminals flouting the rule of law and desperately trying to convince people of lies you make up about the state of the world.

Your time is at a close. The next generation is nearly entirely against you.

Posted from my personal home, actually. I don't live with her and neither of us have basements.

Kill yourself, pathetic child.

Oh, I'll be just fine. YOU are the one being rejected outright by the tide of time.

>Kill yourself, pathetic child.
Since you're such a tough guy, you come kill me you pathetic little internet faggot cock sucker

esl detected

>internet tough guy
Are you the pot or the kettle? Or just completely retarded?

>You can spend all of your money you want on healthcare.
BUT I WANT OTHER PEOPLE TO PAY FOR IT!!!!!

>americuck pretending to be canuck

you tried

get this reddit shit out of here you fucking fag
i don't even care what you mean about it but just by posting this you should just go stick your maggot infested penis in a blender and gas yourself in the garage
go
die

Tell us more mommy stories you little internet faggot.

You are a little queer that regales us stories about your mommy.

You wouldn't dare say jack shit to my face, calling me a child or telling me to kill myself. You would regret it instantly when I'm finished stomping on your face 500 times.

Which results in medical care being the #1 cause of bankruptcy in the US

A free market healthcare system is only good for making the industry a profit. Given economic model of supply and demand, demand is infinite when it's life or death. Tell me, how much would you be willing to pay to get to live?

That is why a capitalist healthcare system doesn't work.

“Free”

First of all, it isn’t. Medicare for all is estimated to cost an additional $3 trillion per year to make happen. Currently our country has about 142 million taxpayers. These tax payers paid about $1.5 trillion in federal income taxes. So if you want “free” healthcare, each person would need to be taxed approximately triple would they are currently paying. Look at your last paystub. Check out how much they are currently taxing in federal tax... now imagine tripling that amount and see if you’d be ok with that for “free” healthcare.

>Holy SHIT! Everybody get a load of THIS faggot!

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>each person would need to be taxed approximately triple would they are currently paying

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Turn your monitor on.

I made one valid statement that happened to include my mother's profession. You went full autism after that. No "mommy stories". No basements. No children involved. I can only assume you're doing a massive amount of psychological projection. I highly recommend you get help.

>You would regret it instantly when I'm finished stomping on your face 500 times.
Dude you are retarded.

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Don't confuse them with facts, they will just call you a lier and faggot. It only makes them angry when you lay out fact because they can't be refuted.

>$3 trillion per year to make happen
we already pay 3.6 trillion for healthcare in this country, sounds like a deal to me

The federal government estimates that national healthcare spending will total about $48 trillion over the next 10 years as costs keep going up.

By 2027, according to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, we’ll be spending about $6 trillion annually on healthcare. Total spending over the subsequent 10 years likely will reach a staggering $60 trillion — at least.

It is a deal lol. Idk why they don't get it.

I’ll bite in the hopes of a reasonable discussion. 3x more based on the current functioning healthcare industry as a whole, yes? How much do you think it would cost if the pricing structures are revised at more reasonable costs? What if the fight for free healthcare would begin with that? Simply charging everyone 3x more taxes and calling it a day would be like getting everyone a free Hyundai Elantras, but taxpayers get to pay for them in the end at $300,000 each. There are many facets of healthcare in the US that make it broken as a whole. The focus on simply getting free healthcare without considering those other paramount issues first seems rather fantastical.

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The thing about those numbers is that they don't filter out elective medical like boob jobs and facelifts. Are you saying that you could cover all of that under Medicare for all and still keep cost under 3 trillion a year? I call bullshit, especially after they normalize tranny surgery. For some of us it is not healthcare for the poor we have a problem with per se, it is all the other bullshit that the leftist commies are pushing that we would have to pay for. I am not going to give my money to support some tranny's mental illness, or some sluts infanticide, or a person in this country illegally.

But it's not wrong...

You could. Three trillion is a lot.

And you admitted it's a moral issue for you. Your morals are shit christfag.

that would be a fine argument, if medicare covered that, but it doesn't.

Not a Christian, I am a conservative White Nationalist pagan. At least I have morals.

>the hopes of a reasonable discussion
well.......it is good to have hope. That can't hurt.

The ability to negotiate endless propaganda sound bites and Alinsky debate tactics would be more useful. Just sayin'.

Oh you'rea KKK faggot. Why aren't you at work lolol

It doesn't now, but under Bernie's plan it would. That is what I am talking about, the other shit they want to push.

>white nationalist
You are a complete imbecile of elephantine proportions and nothing more.

Retired veteran.

Bullshit

where does it say it on his plan? also plastic surgery is only like ~$17 B, which insurance doesn't usually cover anyways.

You can't refute the argument so you insult me. Your opinion is automatically dismissed.

Paid by the government.
Disabled and still collecting government money.
Has Medicare.
Complains about the government.
GTFO KKK boomer

Oh you're retarded lol

KKK fag get out

lol this fag said he's pagan

He was talking total medical spending per year, which includes elective medical. I am saying that him saying that Medicare for all will save is invalid because he is comparing apples to oranges.

I don't have Medicare. I also own my own land on which I grow fruits and vegetables to sell as well as farm animals. I don't want more government interference and them taking what I have worked for to give to some lazy nigger or illegal.

Indeed.

>. I am saying that him saying that Medicare for all will save is invalid because he is comparing apples to oranges.
half of a percent of healthcare spending isn't that much

Yes. Norse pagan, Wotanist/Asatru to be exact.

This fag believes Loki is real XD

well he is a self avowed white nationalist, he can't be that bright

Did you happen to read this you retard?

The Gods are more archetypes, to provide examples of how we should live. Do I believe in a higher intelligence that created the universe? Yes, but we only interact with it through the archetypal God's of our people. That is where our moral understanding of natural law comes from.

You cannot even begin to imagine the actual retardation of a boomer that posts on Cred Forums apparently

Nobody cares about your comic book belief system. Thor and Loki are fake and you're gay. Fuck off.

nor would i want to

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Yes, and I believe we have too much government now. We need to scale back government, not make it bigger and more intrusive.

go write a memoir faggot nobody cares about you. we're all user here snowflake

checked

Haha gif game tight

The Dark Lord Satan has spoken, KKK boomer gtfo

I know nobody cares about me here. I was pointing out that there are reasons that those on the right have morals, while the leftist communist soyboys have none.

there is no such thing as natural law. People forming societies invented law because the knew as early as ancient Mesopotamia that no one person or family could accomplish as much as the entire society could as a whole. You are not self sustaining and you cannot live isolated from the world no matter how much you think you can. You're a naive idiot who wouldn't last a second in a non-regulated world. Time to wake up.

I have to know; are you the same faggot who said he was going to stomp 500 times on the guy who humiliated him from above?

Get a good job, my healthcare is amazing and free.

You don't even understand what natural law is. It is the law that all nature must live by or parish. Like survival of the fittest, kind is drawn to kind, and to protect ones people is the ultimate good.

OK, nice cutesy words, but....

1. PERISH.

2. Aren't "survival of the fittest" and "protect ones people" antithetical?

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No, I don't think I have threatened anyone in this thread.