For those of you once again voting democrat out of hate for Trump and not support of the Democratic (socialist)...

Hahahaha

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Even if you live with your parents because your parents are going to go broke.

The USA is a democratic republic you autistic fuck

Every socialist state has failed it's people. What makes everyone think this will be different? In 20 years our children will starve just as the children of Korea did, and the Chinese before them and the soviets before them. There will be no gods when we all starve

Stop acting like it's "Trump Vs Sanders" or "Republican Vs Democrat." It's NEVER been that. At this point, it is Israel Vs. Russia. Israel wants Trump in office because he's a Zionist boot licker, and and the KGB want Bernie to win because it will further destabilize America (furthering Putin's goals.) Wake the fuck up. youtube.com/watch?v=S5y_fKoG4m0

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Yeah I'm sure I'll really suffer when my tax dollars go towards fixing roads, building schools, and paying for national healthcare instead of lining some billionaire's pockets. Oh no, Amazon might not post record quarterly gains without their obscene levels of welfare! Bezos will only have enough money for a million lifetimes instead of 1.01 million lifetimes! What horror!

Fuck off back to your register you corporate shill. Enjoy pissing in a cup because bathroom breaks might reduce your productivity.

Fuck Trump and Fuck You!

BERNIE 2020 YEAH!!!!!

It’s because some people thrive off being oppressed. They are so stupid they will say trump oppresses them, vote for socialism, then say socialism oppresses them. They don’t know what real oppression is

Oh just like how all your tax dollars are responsibly spent now? Moron.

Only because Republicans control it you dumb fucking cunt.

A federal republic is a federation of states with a republican form of government.

I don't understand why you think voting in Bernie will make the US a socialist country? Children ain't going to starve. Nobody is going to take anyones guns. I mean what the fuck do you think Republican senators are in place for? Checks and balances, dumb shit.

Roads already get fixed, we have plenty of schools, and social welfare programs already exist. No need for communism, thanks.

So if that’s true which is the preferred outcome?

You say that like it’s always gonna be a republican senate

I love Cred Forums nazzie salt tears.

The United States is a federal republic and a constitutional representative democracy.

This is fact

Bernie Sanders because he isn't a true Democrat or Republican.

Here's a Democratic Socialist.

You are a faggot

This is fact

>Any democrat
And that's basically who you're voting for, because the Dem's in charge of the party don't even want Bernfag.

Which is a good thing why

I think both Russia and Israel want Trump at this point. Russia because Trump is heavily straining US international relations and can't settle on one economic policy (or really any single policy) while Israel wants him because he is ramping up arms sales and giving them permission to wantonly fuck over people in the region while pushing efforts to ban the BDS movement.

I don’t know why but it sounds good

So you’re a Muslim or what? The best thing about Israel is that it pisses off radical islam.

I’d be skeptical of anything with the word socialist attached because of what it means historically

I'm actually half-Jewish and fucking hate what Israel is doing in the Middle East against the Arabs because it's not helping stabilize the region much like what the US is doing.

Trump has given more money away through socialism than anyone else. Trillions in farmaid for fucking up their markets.

>t. rainbow hair ladyboy

Bernie calls himself a Democratic Socialist but when you actually look at his voting record and what he calls for, if he was in literally any other developed nation he would be a center-left Social Democrat and would not stand out at all.

>still mad that your stupid beliefs system got owned 4 years ago
>so mad you put quotes around it

OP here, I’d like to pose a question. What is wrong with the current state of the union that needs to be fixed/that is holding you back? Taxes are down, jobs are up. You have every opportunity to succeed if you put in the work. College should be cheaper, much cheaper, but not free. Same with healthcare. There are ways to make this possible without taxing the middle class into poverty. I agree with Bernie’s stance on holding the 1% accountable, but I do not agree that the government should be able to force us to pay for their healthcare we may or may not use, and for us to not have a choice. America is about freedom and that isn’t freedom it’s the government telling you what’s best for you.

>Norway
>Sweden
>Denmark
>Portugal
>Italy
>Franklin D. Roosevelt

Whats the issue?

Bernie would get more support if he used another word even if he kept the same values. It’s like if you’re a straight man and a girl says she’s into you but also says she identifies as a man even if she’s totally a woman. Still kind of a turn off

The issue is population. We have about as many people as all those countries combined.

>Taxes are down, jobs are up.
And almost all of those jobs are shit.
>College should be cheaper, much cheaper, but not free.
It would only be tuition that is free. Other things at the college would be paid for and, again, this only applies to state colleges/universities and not shit like Yale and stuff.
>Same with healthcare.
Bernie's plan would ensure it is free at point of use, paid for by taxes that kick in after your first $20k or so and scaling up as you earn more, while also eliminating the byzantine insurance web which actively seek to cut you out and charge you as much as possible.
>I do not agree that the government should be able to force us to pay for their healthcare we may or may not use, and for us to not have a choice.
You may never need to use it, but if you do it is there and it wouldn't bankrupt you like it can now. You get hit by a car that runs and have no insurance? Be ready for literally 10s of thousands in fees and costs that you have to pay out of pocket or declare bankruptcy.

He's doing well enough right now. He's leading Trump or tied in almost every swing state and is even in the margin of error against Trump in Texas. I think most Americans would say "I don't like socialism" but when they actually listen to Bernie, they just shrug and accept him since he talks straight to your "kitchen table" issues.

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Irrelevant. Social systems are scalable

I'm not American but why did AOC and Co get so pissy and upset when they were asked why they don't call themselves Social Democrats?
Is it because of Social Democrats are class traitors or something?

Free at the point of use??? But you already paid for it! That’s like saying my bicycle is free at the point of use

Bro, that logic doesn't make any sense except in your fantasies

Lol Russia, China, Korea would heavily disagree

Whoever wins the nomination gets my vote. trump is a deranged degenerate that has abused his office, devalued our constitution and institutions, attacked the rule of law and tanked our international credibility while emboldening our adversaries.

hope you get deported to the gulags trumpcuck

It means what it means. You pay your taxes (like literally everyone else in the developed world does in some form) and then when you show up at the hospital they are scrounging through your wallet for an insurance card, handing you a bill for thousands of dollars and then also charging you copays and deductibles on top of what you had already paid towards your insurance already. You go in, they treat you, you leave. Reducing it down to one payee (the government) which would be allowed to negotiate pricing, would net save the country somewhere between $5-25 trillion dollars (the $5 trillion assumes costs stay static for things like x-rays and prescriptions, the $25 trillion assumes we negotiate pricing down).

>cites demonstrably not socially-democratic countries
>S-see? It cannot work!

Couldn't be any worse than the fascist state we live in now after trump
...of wait, the president doesn't actually have the power to do rhat

>Implying that the United States would become Venezuela overnight just by electing bernie

Lol

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What’s fascist? What freedoms have you lost under Trump?

Too hard to grasp the concept of scalability? Go finish highschool

kek
Read the rest of my post, smart guy

"Emboldened'?
Russia pulled back their Iskander missile program from the borders and Kaliningrad after the peace talks.
Ukraine has also stabilized some and after this impeachment debacle you should know that the U.S sold the world's most advanced AT weapons to Ukraine.
I'm European but I thank Trumpu for also being real about the immigrant invasion over here.
The status quo is to say nothing when our children gets raped, mugged and abused

Also, thanks for the Patriot missiles, Trumpu!

>What’s fascist?
you and your shitty excuse of a president
>What freedoms have you lost under Trump?
It's not about the freedoms we lost, but if you really care go and ask the thousands of children getting massacred in the concentraion camps along the southrern border, oh wait you don't care because you're a fascist

>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
>Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

Problem is that politicians are corrupt.u

A lot of anti Bernie psy-ops from criminal republicans these days. Are the criminal republicans scared or do they know they are the enemies of america?

You. Fucking. Nirmod. Every please read this post I am replying toward, in order to see the quintessential example of whiny "poor me" politics with which the Left continues to corrupt their constituents.

Before 2015, Trump's political operations with methodically Democratic. He ACCEPTED THE NOMINATION of the Republican Party in 2016 after being invited to join the caucuses. He is about as non-political of politician that you could ask for, only he's an upper-crust white guy so most people don't see him any differently. He's a businessman who understands how economics work ("hurr he filed for bankruptcy tho!! Nah fareal!!"; a smart move if you can afford it, which he can). The main reason people don't like him is because he doesn't cater to this free-for-all society that Obama (knowingly or not) created and fostered, where societal rejects make a mockery out of simple biological concepts of gender and allow any/all foreigners to come here from their shithole countries to infect us with their bullshit and heinous commit crimes.

Fuck you, buddyboy. Trump cruises to the most-lopsided victory ever by an incumbent in 2020.

This is a Republican rebuttal to an argument.
Typical Trump voter.
TRUMP NEEDS TO GO.

The president according to his lawyers and the criminal republican senate has unlimited power and is 100% above the law. His lawyer stated he could shoot a journalist on the street and no one would be able to bring him to justice.

False. Socialism is the way forward. It is simply more practical from a mathematical and economic standpoint. You only have feelings to support your arguments against socialism.

>Muh venezuela
Ok yeah. I totally have time to deprogram your npc dialog tree on that one

How do you expect Bernie’s plan to work when our government mismanages tax money

Our Öb-överbefälhavare/over Commander or whatever congratulated trump last year for the successful missile talks, so did our defence minister even though our government are Leftists.
Listen to the talks between Ukraines president and Trump, the transcript is readily available. They speak of Javelins, this is the Javelin anti tank missile, now supplied to the Ukraine

Not American but it's more correct than calling everyone Nazis like your left does

tl:dr racist hogwash

Still not an argument

trump voters voted for trump to spite the republican party more than any democrat you git

After he fled off the stage in terror yesterday in Nevada cause 4 college chicks showed their tits & he's been getting mocked by every late night comedian non-stop ever since, I doubt old comrade Bernard is going to be around past the nomination. The CNN, MSNBC & NY times polls this morning show him tanking behind Mayor Buttcheese by 5 to 11 points depending on poll, he's pretty much done.

A VOTE FOR TRUMP IS A VOTE AGAINST THE LEGISLATION OF MARIJUANA

Please stop calling us Nordic countries Socialist. We are not, and things are actually going pretty bad since we started to bring in these Muslims...

A VOTE FOR TRUMP IS A VOTE AGAINST THE LEGISLATION OF MARIJUANA

Yeah, that was pretty cringey. Like the 12th time poor old Bernie slowly wobbled away in fear after having his stage hijacked by far left nutters. Surprised he didn't have another heart attack after his last massive coronary back in December.

No, it's not. Its a way to bring illegitimacy to either ones argument.
Your opinion is invalid because -A
Your opinion is invalid because -B

Russia also deployed a hypersonic missile system, crashed a nuclear powered cruise missile made to linger over long range targets (us) and continues to harass our ships in international waters and our aircraft in international airspace.

Oh, trump has also turned a blind eye to the killing of a Saudi journalist living in the US, the plight of democratic protesters in Hong Kong, major crackdowns on freedom in our Turkish NATO ally and legitimized the monstrous regime of Kim Jong Un... while accomplishing absolutely nothing in regards to their nuclear program.

Oh yea, he also kicked a hornets nest in Iran and that nearly cost American soldiers their lives, while getting us removed from a country that is still critical to the fight against Islamic terror groups, and insured that Iran’s Shiite militias will consolidate power in the region.

>deranged degenerate
How? try supporting this claim, I dare you

>abused his office
How? By saying what he means? being President allows you to make radical claims; Obama, Bush, and Clinton did the same thing

>devalued our constitution and institutions
Lol that's cute, if anything he's upholding it. Institutions? You mean the same institutions that are screwing over the American people on a daily basis?

>attacked the rule of law
He's upholding it, idiot. He brought credibility back to law enforcement, something Obama willingly let fall by the wayside from 2013-2016 because black people and stuff.

>tanked our international credibility while emboldening our adversaries
No, he took a firm stance that he will not allow corruption or terrorism to become a part of the U.S.'s national identity. He told Islamic terrorist nations to fuck-off because almost all Americans don't want to deal with them anyway. Also, we aren't a Muslim country, dipshit. Emboldened adversaries? More like keeping peace between America and other nations we previously had issues with no too long ago. I bet you're referring to Russia, right? Your precious little Russia thing to fall back on if all other nonsensical Lefty bullshit fails, right? I'd rather the President keep peace with Russia (A WORLDLY POWER JUST LIKE WE ARE) than pander to sandfag countries who's governments willingly keep their societies hundreds of years behind, in order to keep the same families in power.

You are dumb.

A VOTE FOR TRUMP IS A VOTE AGAINST THE LEGISLATION OF MARIJUANA.

True
Absolutely shit precedent to be going forward with. Have a feeling it's really gonna bite the right in the ass when s real lefty gets in.
>Reap what you sow
As it stands now with the absolute shit show from all sides the average American is still pulling forward.
We lived through Clinton
We lived through bush
We lived through Obama
So far were surviving trump

To imply electing Bernie would put the USA into a tailspin right beside communist DICTATORSHIPS is disingenuous as fuck and makes me question the motivation considering the other Dems running don't get half the shit Bernie does.
....reminds me of another candidate

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Bernie's going to be Hillary'd again. He's falling behind Pete B. in current polls and the incident yesterday turned him into an international joke. Twitter's been roasting Bernie for running off like a scared confused old retard for the past 24 hours.

I'd like you to do is a favor, though

>I hear only what I want to hear

Yup. The convention's going to be a mess. And with Bernie's unhinged supporters getting even more violent and psychotic than usual recently, you know that's a major concern too. The Dem ticket is going to be either Mayor Pete & Warren, or Bloomberg & Hillary.

>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
>Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

How does Putin's taste?...
Dunno?...
Ask Trump

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Harassing your ships in International waters, yes but I can only find two examples and these were a few years back when U.S warships pushed into the Black Sea.
You mentioned the crashed nuclear powered missiles? They have crashed in the Artic before 2016 according to Swedish radiological alarms. Swedish sensors were the first to sound the alarm after the Chernobyl accident.
The Russian bomber flights who have been done since the cold war have subsided some in later years but yes, they are still testing out readiness.
However, Russia is no where near as big of a player that the U.S media makes it out to be. They are under tremendous stress from the Sanctions and that's probably a big cause why they are pulling back.

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ts;dr no substance ;)

These aren't really arguments...

It's obvious that if we go in the socialism direction we will reach the inevitable dead end that every other socialist nation has met.
China isn't even really socialist anymore, it's turned into an oligarchy much in the way the Soviet Union did post Stalin.
The reason that happens is true socialism is untenable
People WILL starve
I just hope that in the future I won't lose points on my social credit score for what I'm posting now "anonymously"

p. s- im still voting bernie lmao

>Arguing on Cred Forums

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>deranged
Listen to him speak
>degenerate
Listen to him speak at the Boy Scout national jamboree on July 24th 2018, also paying off pornstars and “grab her by the pussy”

As for the rest of your sycophantic attempts at green text retorts, they are absolutely incorrect and I won’t be assed to refute your foolishness one by one. Under Bill Barr the justice system has been corrupted, anyone who isn’t a shill can see that clearly.

>You are dumb
No u

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Holy cognitive dissonance Batman!

The sounds of your retard screech must be deafening in your echo chamber.

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I think we may be at capitalism's dead end.

cute reply buddy, bring some substance next time. But hey, "feel the Bern", right?

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CUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>I'm smarter because I say so
you sound like a woman

>just understand that unless you live with your parents and don’t work, you are going to suffer far worse living in a socialist state than living in our current state.
Yeah, no. The only ones who benefit from Trump or another republican president is the superwealthy. I am not even American so I don't have a stake in the game, and from this position of neutrality that fact is blindingly obvious.

Actually I guess it's not true that I don't have a stake in the game, since many of Trump's policies are not only bad for Americans, but the entire world, such as his attack against clean energy and sustainability.

A VOTE FOR TRUMP IS A VOTE AGAINST THE LEGISLATION OF MARIJUANA.

While this is true I don't think socialism is necessarily the answer
>inb4 fascist that's not the answer either

A VOTE FOR TRUMP IS A VOTE AGAINST THE LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA

Yet, that faggot (probably you) said it first. You sound like an incel.

Jesus Christ you faggots got baited hard

I’d rather have many options than the 1 option the government says is the right option for me.

Capitalism > socialism

Buh mah fwee cahlege!

that's it bud, control all the damage

Buh mah fwee helth kair

You couldn’t even damage a hymen. You are dismissed, as always.

lmao you're so fuckin adorable buddy

hey, go vote for your favorite Dem, you know 1 of the 9 candidates your own political ideology can't even agree on?

At this point I'm willing to give up. All this constant bickering between right/left/centre is fucking exhausting. Give the baby it's bottle so we can rest for once.

How the fuck can you give your freedom of choice away to the government and let them give you 1 option for healthcare and make that choice for you, all while trusting them to spend tax money responsibly. It’s a fucking pipe dream!!!

The problem with OP's view is that it is made with the assumption that he wont reorganize how much is taken from our paychecks instead of just taking more. If you make 50k a year, you actually pay at least 4k directly for corporate subsidies and not anything that our taxes should be used for.

>Get medical treatment. Go bankrupt.
>No medical treatment. Die.

Those are some high quality options the for-profit healthcare system is offering, bud. But hey, at least no one is taking away your right to choose.

Slick Willy, George W, Oscumma, Trump the Jew ball licker, Colonel Sanders...etc it does not matter. They are all System-picked to try to make you believe they're on your side and will do something for you. Voting is just a show for the gullible.

>fled off the stage in terror yesterday in Nevada cause 4 college chicks showed their tits
So instead of walking away from children having a tantrum, in what way is an elderly man supposed to flex against tiddies, glitter, and screaming that would look good on camera?

stonehead

>Enemies of America
>Republican
Bad b8 m8 I r8 0/8

It's a valid argument when you look at what those things want to do with the country.
(Legalize pedophilia so Hollywood won't have to hide it, start Communism because trans surgeries aren't cheap, and turn every kids in a fucking faggot to keep the cycle going)

Trump NEEDS TO GO WIN ANOTHER ELECTION

>After he fled off the stage in terror yesterday in Nevada cause 4 college chicks showed their tits

I like this man, knows when he's been upstaged, and who wants to hear a lecture while there are titties on display and flippity flopping around.
After his marijuana legalization executive order goes into effect, I bet Bernie would be a very fun guy to hang out with at the music festival.

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>I like this man, knows when he's been upstaged, and who wants to hear a lecture while there are titties on display and flippity flopping around.
>After his marijuana legalization executive order goes into effect, I bet Bernie would be a very fun guy to hang out with at the music festival.
Yes thanks god a candidate is willing to put the most important issue facing our country at the forefront. The only problem is getting all the genius stoners off their mom's couch to go out and vote. Good luck loser.

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The right can’t meme without Russian assistance.

Sanders won't be part of the election. It's clearly going to Bloomberg.

Are you against titties and music festivals? Because you sound like an anti-titties and music festivals voter.

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>Russian

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Man oh man are the propagandists out today.

Fuck Putin
Fuck Oligarchs

Oh look, it’s this meme again. Really got me there, kek.

>trumpanzees calling anyone else on the planet a sheep robot

you're so retarded you don't see the irony

Still your president

Sorry, didn't mean to hurt your feelings

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dumbass jews pig fucker

Every Ivan keeps this one in his toolkit too. You aren’t helping your case.

Your life will quite literally not change, even in the slightest. Clinton didn't change your life, Bush didn't change your life, Obama didn't change your life, Trump didn't change your life.

The president is strictly a face position and has no actual power or control over your life, outside of declaring a draft.

>posts two white men that aren’t actually rich by American standards
You should really worry more about your intelligence than my feelings.

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Speak for yourself even a congressmans wage is rich to poor folk like me

Yet you think trump cares about you. Oh dear.

t. boomer

Told to leave Israeli kibbutz commune because he was too lazy.

>>Thinking the president doesn't change anything because you don't notice a change in your daily routine.
It's like saying there's no climate change because.. look... snow.

These are me

I'm 21

bump