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Socialise the government. Their riches are our taxes. Take what's yours
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>Take what's yours
It's not yours.
Explain.
Pretty much this.
>take what's yours
How's about I just keep what's mine in the first place. Oh wait, that's not socialism then, is it. You fuckin retards don't even understand your own ideology. It all just comes down to gibs with you morons.
Animal Farm. Read it.
What do you mean? Its hard to glean your opinion from what you've written. I see a lot of meme speak but not a lot of substance.
Oh, the fable about how an earnest working population of impressionable animals was lead wildly astray by, what was revealed to be, rampant captilistic pigs in the end? Is that the story youre referring to?
>Eat the rich
>I see a lot of meme speak
The original post was four propaganda soundbites. But the criticism of it is "memespeak?"
There's projection. And then there's CommIMAX.
How about instead you explain your claim that what I have us yours.
Do you even go so far as to look more like?
>taxes
>take what's yours
Bruh that's how capitalism works. Fuck taxes
Negative, we all pay an amount. How that amount is spent is up to a democratically elected body. That body devises how our dollars are spent. They should spend it on nation building ventures and not on war. Fuck the war machine.
Can someone fix this bot?
Google the phrase
Just go so far, and then look more like.
Pastry bro is lit. I don't know your intentions but yes.
>Take what's yours
>not even gonna fight for it himself
>has to get yet another richfag elected
>he cucks you using the same "establishment is resisting" excuse as every other president does
Eat shit or die when the rich toss you from helicopters.
Bernie or riot.
I mean that.
Fuck degenerates leeching off the backs of working Americans.
I wish a nibba would
I Am you. Working motherfucker. What the government ralez from my check,is better used paying for social shit than bombs. Literal bombs.
It's better in your own pocket so you guarantee where it goes. Give to charity if it suits you and stay the fuck away from my money, nigger.
I got you. Bernie or riot for real 2020
You dont have a choice outside the ballot box. Vote a real dude that going to do real shit to make your exact life better. No country club subscription required.
Charity doesn't fund roads and bridges and sewer systems. If you want to see how well charities do those things look at a lot of Africa. Not too good huh?
Get the fuck out.
Then vote to abolish income tax.
Income taxes are great. Compare countries with income taxes to countries without them. You wouldn't want to live in the countries without them.
Taxes are charity. There are 11 men who own more money than God and you dare to inpose these petty limitations on them?
I too, have been 16 years old.
This is a great idea. I've always wanted to completely eliminate the military, get invaded, and learn to speak Arabic.
>taxation is charity!
>a genius
Of course it does. Without those public works where would your private companies be?
Taxes fund roads. Charity does not fund roads. Taxes are the best way to pay for a country's inflexible demands. Charity is a joke.
Way beyond. This shit is for real.
>Implying our countless military bases around the world protect our homeland
Shut up, libtard.
They don't but with a military budget funded by charity I hope you like the flavor of revenge because it's coming hard lol
Sure libtard.
Still mad she lost, libtard?
>random link
>no context
why do you post here
Taxes fund way more than roads. They fund war. Torture. Are you ok with subjecting a person to days of torture for shoddy evidence?
Contrasted with universal healthcare. Your country man could benefit from the best in the world. Or. You can torture a terrorist.
Stay mad, libtard.
Seethe, libtard.
Shut up, libtard.
Blow it out your ass, libtard.
Sure libtard.
Seethe, libtard.
Sure libtard.
Stay mad, libtard.
REMEMBER TO REPORT SPAMMERS
>no context
This is Cred Forums.
Stay mad at war crimes, that are also valid. against American citizens , yeah ok.
Nobody is clicking a random link to a site they're unfamiliar with. You still haven't provided any context.
Shut up, libtard.
That is correct. Spamming has always and will always be against the rules. This is a discussion board not a spam board. Please report spam or fuck off and never return.
Don't be a pussy, user. Click it.
Yes, you are a nobody.
Nah. Not really interested in offering my browser fingerprint to a site posted by a protrump shill.
>discussions of any value
>on fucking Cred Forums
Shouldn't you be in school/doing homework/sleeping, kiddo?
Still mad she lost, libtard?
I am user and so are you.
No spamming is one of he few rules on Cred Forums. Spam ruins the board. Your opinion about it is irrelevant. Don't spam Cred Forums. It is against the rules and you will be banned.
You will find what you seek.
Eat the rich.
Sure libtard.
>Taxes fund bad things
>Keep them
Are you retarded, and for all people speaking about "no taxes no roads!" maybe they forgot that infrastructure is important to companies that want to make sure their product comes somewhere.
Which is why companies in many places over the world has made donations toward infrastructure.
But hey, keep throwing money at some people in a capitol city as if they knew better how to use it than the people who earned it.
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Maybe that's true on other boards but I highly doubt the mods are paid enough to give a shit if anyone spams Cred Forums. If they are then clearly banning is not much of a deterrent since there are still fucking bots everywhere anyway.
>protrump
lololol
samefag
No, I'm for using this fundamental force for good.
Stay mad, libtard.
literally just hold the government accountable for how they use our money. they spend it on building new ways to fuck over any country that's not european instead of fixing country problems
seriously, it's not that fucking hard to figure out. the fact that the response to communism was "government will always be too corrupt for that" is evidence that republican dips don't give a rats ass about doing the right thing. fuck their "family values" bullshit
My mother had sex for free so she could swallow food. You dare to post this shit to my eyes?
Shut up, libtard.
Nobody cares how you think things work. Jannies ban spammers on Cred Forums constantly. Report bots if you see bots. They will be banned.
The other NPC faggot is right.
You are a libtard
The article is quite critical of trump but whatever, liberal NPC
I'm not mad, stop projecting hillbilly
Hollywood didn't fuck her sarcastically like I did
This.
Nobody would ever be able to tell because dude just posted a bare link with no context. :)
I'll report the bots but I'm telling you, I've never seen it accomplish anything.
give me a real fucking argument to tear into. fking liberal troll posing as MAGA idiot
I wish the conservatives had half the brain and moral compass to realize just how fucking stupid they are. jesus fucking christ i'm heated just thinking about it
Shut up, libtard.
excuse me what the fuck
You're the admin of /lol/ aren't you?
Preposterous
I'm telling you that you're a newfag then. Try it out in this thread and you'll see.
>For the greater good
Elaborate? What is good in this scenario? Healthcare and roads? Alms for the poor?
Morality is based on the person in question, saying "for good" can mean anything, so please elaborate.
WHAT THE FUCK IS A BIRD???
WHAT THE FUCK IS A BIRB TRAP :3?
Fuck no, but we have a containment board for this kind of shit and it's not Cred Forums.
alright there a cops outside my window and no one's giving me any interesting response. I'm tired and have work tomorrow. night y'all
Your labor means value. Leverage it
I can't hold your hand along the way.
The discussion was about roads and shit; infrastructure.
The link clearly had the word "infrastructure" in it
I obviously gave you too much credit.
Medical care. Emergency services. Normal shit.
The gulag camps were made because Russia was cannibalist. Capitalism fucked Russia and China over .even today it does.
As money doesn't grow on trees you can only get rich when other people get poor.
No / less rich people = no /less poor people
Maybe limiting wealth (for ex.: 10giga$ for a Private Person) is better than eating them.
Greed already destroyed more than one society. Just look at our history: since we had our first civilisations we are focused on collecting as much valueable things as posible, just to burie us with them.
Still mad she lost, libtard?
Cred Forums is the state of failure for containment boards
Sure libtard.
You can say: Here's a link that X
But that would mean you have to make a little effort to get me to look at something I have no reason to care about. So until you do that just get comfy with the idea I'll never see your link because I couldn't give less of a shit.
Seethe, libtard.
It was made by capitalistic agents and all cannibals were shot.
okay, NPC
Have fun with the libtard spammer alone then
true facts incoming: every time you say libtard everyone thinks you're a faggot
She was a shill. Bernie can't be.
Still mad she lost, libtard?
>Normal shit
First of, there is no normal, its your bias, my bias, and other peoples bias.
Normal for me is not the same for you, same goes for the rest of the people on this planet.
Can you elaborate again, what is good, and how would you spend government funding to do that good?
What does emergency service mean? I realize you mean shit like ambulance and fire departments, but it is important to elaborate, for 2 reasons.
You cant convince others if they dont know what you mean, and the other is simply that you yourself need to realize what you are speaking about.
Simon Häyhä was the last in line in the army of socialist betrayal of socialism during the fourties. All the russians were leaving Russia because they thought it had fallen. They believed in Hitler like a god. Simo was the last of them and he saw how they were evil. He shot all of them from behind. They thought it was the russians hunting them. It was just one guy. His face proves he was tortured by capitalist agents.
Stay mad, libtard.
Not him, but you do realize some bernie supporters voted trump simply to give the middle finger to hillary, since she fucked him over.
No, she was a shill.
We know because he was ready to be called a capitalist after that. He was actually Russian.
The Russians invaded Finland without guns.
>The political ways the land refused to take part of destroyed them
This is like blaming trees for the trojan horse, just retarded that is.
lol
I ordered some edible gold leaves recently. The amount of gold on each of those chocolates is like fifty cents to a buck, and it's not like I was shopping around or buying in bulk.
They're also applied super shittily there which is funny because chocolates are one of the easier things to get a nice gold wrap around.
Hitler was going to shoot them down anyways. Simon didn't save a bullet for himself. They were just carrying ammunition in hopes of assaulting a guy and shooting themselves
> Capitalism fucked Russia and China over .even today it does.
Capitalism has not fucked over China at all. They're in a pretty good spot right now-much better than 100 years ago. Capitalism might've fucked over Russia or might've not. They've been fucked for a long time now. Wondering how things will go with overlord Putin over there
Simo-Simon is the same name. He couldn't pronounce the "m" because his face was deformed.
Shut up, libtard.
That which is proven to devlop a state.
That's funny because you'd think even without a military option, having the entire world hate you for a couple generations would basically result in a massive group effort to patiently undermine your social composition and economics to the point where the entire culture is broke and schizophrenic with pathological infighting and shit like mass shootings as an unremarkable everyday occurrence
Sure libtard.
Corona virus happened because there was an upper class to pay for delecasies.
Communism would have not had upper class
Stay mad, libtard.
Ok, Jordan,
As you say.
Haha based. Who could ever imagine such a country?
They are coal burners. Literally a Hollywood intern term. Bill Gates calls them inferior and the rest of Hollywood catches on. Chinese are coal burners.
Get over it.
They are importing Chinese fentanyl to cope with the awful home made drugs that capitalism is forcing them to do.
Ivanka Trump comes from Russia. Mustn't I remind you how trump fucked himself over?
Still mad she lost, libtard?
There is literally no air to breathe in China.
So a military force and nothing else?
Either you missed history class, or you are unaware how little a country needs to just exist.
Someone rules a territory, bam! How do they do it? Either military might, (which is the easy way) or they are elected by the people, and do their bidding, which can be anything, so it does not answer what you desire the taxes to be used for.
Come on son, you can write it if you believe, just think harder on what is important in your mind for a nations people to get taxed for.
Eat the rich.
Trump bought them as child slaves from Russia and let his friends use than as cumdumpsters. Then he married one. He is unwise.
>They are coal burners. Literally a Hollywood intern term. Bill Gates calls them inferior and the rest of Hollywood catches on. Chinese are coal burners.
Wait what are you getting at? "Hollywood intern term?" I have no idea what you're trying to say.
Seethe, libtard.
Still mad she lost, libtard?
I think you know what i'm hinting at
I thought I smelled oldfag :)
Sure libtard.
Ew. Try harder.
these might be two different people but they're arguing with each other...
dude why are you overthinking it so much? what do you have to prove? why are you arguing these technicalities? it's just a wasted excercise
yes, technically you can rule using fear and the military state, but this state will quickly fall apart. You mention history class-you can look that up in just about any chapter in history.
yes, obviously nations tax for a military. they also tax for public services. the job of the government is to balance this so they keep the state healthy and also protected. america doesn't balance this and only invests in military and then tells the country "figure it out on your own" while pretending it's residents are crazy for asking for public goods from the government. if you take econ 101, you'll know that's the responsibility of the government
Sure libtard.
The bottle of wine contained the blood of Jesus. It was literally alcohol because he was fat and breathed oxygen on the cross. Fats and oxygen create alcohol.
Shut up, libtard.
to be fair, i'd fuck her too
Bernie or riot.
Still mad she lost, libtard?
Still mad she lost, libtard?
I am "overthinking" this because I am trying to get someone to just express what the fuck they want out of taxes, and not just some bs answer like "for good things", or "free shit" and so on.
Hard concrete answers that someone can either recognize and approve/disprove of.
Giving context to whatever you want is pretty fucking important when discussing with people, otherwise assumptions are made, but they are not sure to be the same thing.
And yes states that are ruled by military only normally dont hold up that well, but the only thing he elaborated from his "just use it for good" was to say that the baseline need to form a state was the only reason for taxation ( )
Point is, he is flip flopping around with no real point and I wish he could be concrete with his views.
Also I am really fucking bored, and political discussions amuse me.
Imagine being a human and portraying angels as naked babies.
It's obviously a work of the Vikings that sailed to England.
It's obviously a work of the Vikings that sailed to England. Anglo
Taxes are for commodities subject to inflexible demand.
And once again its a vague no show answer.
>man i want the taxes to pay for something that keeps hunger at bay
>so you want the government to pay for food?
>What? fuck no, i just want them to kill of the starving poor...
What commodities are subject to inflexible demand? Name those things. That's what taxes should subsidize.
Thinking taxes are theft is far from libtard. its more libertarian/ancap bullshit
source: am libtard
I guess good opium is hard to find for people that want it, so government pays for it?
economicsdiscussion.net
Here's a quick primer on what makes commodity demand elastic or inelastic. It makes sense to subsidize street lights with taxes so you don't have to sign up for ten thousand street light services and stop and scan your card at every light to turn it on.
Huh? Recreational drugs have highly elastic demand. The demand for various things swings wildy. They're a luxury and should not be paid for with taxes. Medical drugs have a relatively inelastic demand. X population will tend to need X doses of penicillin per year. It's highly inelastic. It should be subsidized with taxes.
ur gonna die if ur a socialist aswell.
Libertardians could all very easily move to libertardian wonderland paradises like Burkina Faso and experience the man eat man freedom that comes with pure anarchy lulz
No rather be free you fag. Your way creates the super rich who like Venezuela live a great life as the people starve in the streets.
Wait I'm gonna die?! No this cannot possibly be true.
>America is that not Venezuela lol
>It makes sense to subsidize street lights with taxes so you don't have to sign up for ten thousand street light services and stop and scan your card at every light to turn it on.
Yeah nah, I rather not pay for light if the way to pay it goes past the government, and there is my inherit problem with it all, I bet paying directly to the source would be cheaper and more effective.
And on the point of "stopping at every light and scan your card" is just an argument that is based on people being to stupid to device a way to make a thing simpler. As in this case they could make you pay once and keep sensors checking in every now and then to make sure you are getting the light you payed for.
But anyways atleast we are getting somewhere with what the fuck people want the taxes for. So commodities that are inflexible, anything else?
If you don't think that book and Orwell were strongly anti-socialist, you're retarded
No. Inflexible commodities. That's the purpose of taxation. Defense, necessities, transportation access, energy, infrastructure. Notice we already heavily subsidize these industries in the US. This is not a new or novel take. It is literally the purpose of government. If you think you can do better on your own, move somewhere with no taxes like central/eastern africa/eurasia and get devoured by the jungle/locals immediately. You will not have access to internet infrastructure without taxation. You will not have access to adequate healthcare without taxation. You will not have access to personal safety without taxation. You will die of a simple infection waiting for a charity to deliver enough penicillin (the warlords stole it all and are charging two kidneys for it).
actually Orwell was anti-authoritarian but very much a socialist
>Eric Arthur Blair(25 June 1903 – 21 January 1950),[1]better known by hispen nameGeorge Orwell, was an English novelist and essayist, journalist and critic.[2]His work is characterised by lucid prose, awareness ofsocial injustice, opposition tototalitarianism, and outspoken support ofdemocratic socialism.
yeah that's a pretty good answer XD
Retard quotes Wikipedia
To admit that an opponent might be bothhonestandintelligentis felt to be intolerable. It is more immediately satisfying to shout that he is afoolor a scoundrel, or both, than to find out what he is really like.
Ok retard. Socialism is a very broad term. He was a socialist in the way 'he understood it' not the way the Socialist Party operated. However since Labour was the party closest to his ideology, he campaigned with them. You will notice that Socialists tend to treat Orwell as 'confused' but he was clearly a libertarian who rejected state inference in people's lives which is the opposite of socialism in the sense of a Party. Read his books, retard. You're no longer worth my time
Hitler, no doubt, will soon disappear, but only at the expense of strengthening (a) Stalin, (b) the Anglo-American millionaires and (c) all sorts of petty fuhrers of the type of de Gaulle. All the national movements everywhere, even those that originate in resistance to German domination, seem to take non-democratic forms, to group themselves round some superhuman fuhrer (Hitler, Stalin, Salazar, Franco, Gandhi, De Valera are all varying examples) and to adopt the theory that the end justifies the means. Everywhere the world movement seems to be in the direction of centralised economies which can be made to ‘work’ in an economic sense but which are not democratically organised and which tend to establish a caste system. With this go the horrors of emotional nationalism and a tendency to disbelieve in the existence of objective truth because all the facts have to fit in with the words and prophecies of some infallible fuhrer. Already history has in a sense ceased to exist, ie. there is no such thing as a history of our own times which could be universally accepted, and the exact sciences are endangered as soon as military necessity ceases to keep people up to the mark. Hitler can say that the Jews started the war, and if he survives that will become official history. He can’t say that two and two are five, because for the purposes of, say, ballistics they have to make four. But if the sort of world that I am afraid of arrives, a world of two or three great superstates which are unable to conquer one another, two and two could become five if the fuhrer wished it.
George Orwell was a democratic socialist ala Bernie Sanders. He was critical of totalitarian and authoritarian forms of socialism ala Bernie Sanders. He said the mark of a real socialist was he ability to criticize Stalin. You're wrong.
Hitler, no doubt, will soon disappear, but only at the expense of strengthening (a) Stalin, (b) the Anglo-American millionaires and (c) all sorts of petty fuhrers of the type of de Gaulle. All the national movements everywhere, even those that originate in resistance to German domination, seem to take non-democratic forms, to group themselves round some superhuman fuhrer (Hitler, Stalin, Salazar, Franco, Gandhi, De Valera are all varying examples) and to adopt the theory that the end justifies the means. Everywhere the world movement seems to be in the direction of centralised economies which can be made to ‘work’ in an economic sense but which are not democratically organised and which tend to establish a caste system. With this go the horrors of emotional nationalism and a tendency to disbelieve in the existence of objective truth because all the facts have to fit in with the words and prophecies of some infallible fuhrer. Already history has in a sense ceased to exist, ie. there is no such thing as a history of our own times which could be universally accepted, and the exact sciences are endangered as soon as military necessity ceases to keep people up to the mark. Hitler can say that the Jews started the war, and if he survives that will become official history. He can’t say that two and two are five, because for the purposes of, say, ballistics they have to make four. But if the sort of world that I am afraid of arrives, a world of two or three great superstates which are unable to conquer one another, two and two could become five if the fuhrer wished it.
>Orwell was anti socialist
>He was a socialist in the way he understood it
Yeah man. He was a democratic socialist. Libertarians are right wing anarchists and deleonists are left wing anarchists. Orwell was a demsoc. A little toward the center from full blown socialism.
Like Bernie Sanders like user said.
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly,againsttotalitarianism andfordemocratic socialism, as I understand it."
How about directly quoting Orwell, is that better?
whoa that was one of the heavier btfos ive ever witnessed kek
Bernie Sanders will be the next President of the United States of America, and there is nothing you or the DNC can do to stop him.
We are witnessing, in real time, not only the death of the Democratic Party as we know it, but more importantly the dismantling of the two-party system that has long crippled our nation's advancement.
Thank you to all Trump voters, whether you love or hate Bernie, for getting the revolution started. It is time for us to finish the job
Niggas out here weighing 300 pounds talking about eating the rich like bitch you worrying about munching the wrong pigs