Anyone who doesn't FULLY support this guy is a MASSIVE fucking retard

Sorry leftards. He has put up zero actual plans of how to implement his campaign promises, and doing such would require congressional action on a major scale, not anything the president could do. In addition, there have been estimates that to do everything Bernie is promising over the span of eight years would cost somewhere between 2-10 times the entire US GDP.
TL;DR Bernie is fucking stupid.

You say this as if you just beleave what faux tells you. You clearly havent been to his campaign site which sets this all out in detail.

This. And hates money, advancing in a career for personal gain, or enjoys the prospect of being a doctor while making the same as the kid that flips burgers for a living,

they'll never let this renegade joo win. Jooz prefer to run all our shit from behind the scenes, not out front, so fuggetaboutit

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Guys, are you really so delusional to think a then 80 year old guy could run the government of one of the powerful nations on earth?

He’s good (although sometimes a commie), but he’s way to old for that job.

I went to the site. It doesn't say shit about how to implement or pay for the switch over to national healthcare. I BELIEVE you are an idiot.

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>Anyone who doesn't FULLY support this guy is a MASSIVE fucking retard

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berniesanders.com/issues/jobs-for-all/

Thats his own fucking site and it doesnt explain a goddamn thing about one of his flagship policy regarding HOW TO FUCKING DO IT.

You cant just say "AMERICA NEEDS JOBS AND NEEDS STUFF DONE TOO" and pretend like everything will just fucking do itself.

He claims Americans will be guaranteed jobs in rebuilding green infrastructure. Wind, Solar. Those are good! How do we train and employ people to do it? Who does the training? Which company is Bernie even using for manufacturing these millions of solar panels? He has no fucking idea.

Childcare! He claims we'll all have childcare jobs! Right, a job thats already 80% women while the other women are actually raising their own kids so who gets this gig? Men? Great, that wont lead to any issues, desperate broke guys working with little boys and girls never resulted in anything bad right? Fucking idiot is endangering American children.

Finally, you can select the DREAM JOB of wiping some elderly ass and sponge bathing them for $15 an hour! Thats gonna be fun for everyone, right?

You need to go read his fucking site yourself and you need to get your shit straight. I'll be waiting for you over in the Yang2024 camp, sorry you fucked this one up and gave Trump a free extra 4 years because literally no other dem has any bipartisan support.

Oh, and nevermind the fact that Bernie's own campaign manager admitted that even if there was a universe where Bernie beat Trump the Bernie dipshits dont think his healthcare plan has any chance of passing. Conservatives arent just gonna suck his cock.

godamnit man, you're an American with an internet connection. Wise the fuck up.

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Anyone who DOES support this guy is a MASSIVE fucking retard.

See, anyone can type words.

NO. it's NOT deadbeats that support him. Miniscule at best. Simply. NO MORE TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH.

GET IT! NONE ZERO!

Even though the rich still pay more in taxes, and payroll, in 1 year than a NEET like you pays in 1 million lifetimes.

>Wise the fuck up
Says the guy complaining about a decrepit old socialist while posting a picture of the money fairy.

This thread is dildos

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Indeed.

AND nominate Supreme Court Justices who get the MONEY OUT of ELECTIONS.

STOP spamming this faker

True
False

Why is the U.S. spending 2x per/capita for HEALTH CARE than ANY other COUNTRY?

I'll tell you why: GREED, FRAUD, CORRUPTION. PERIOD!

Yep. I agree there, it's just that Bernie won't be able to do anything about it.Welcome to life, kiddo. The bad guys sometimes win.

False.

Anyone that supports him is either unemployed and hooked on drugs, or a 40 yo incel still living in their parents basement.

False..

False

False!

Very false

I'll bite. Why?

Nope.

He with the support of the people NEED the support of American Citizens. THrow in the TOWEL IF that's what's YOU PREFER.

That's wrong, faggot.

Only junkies and white trash support him.

Is it really confirmed that Bernies plan actually would decease overall cost of healthcare?
According to a national economist here in Europe it's a widening of a misconception.
To me it sound like the net benefit lie we were told about outer European immigration, which has been a complete disaster, sadly. No retirement at 65 for me and a higher general taxation plus higher costs is all I got. Oh, I got robbed my Muslims last year too... Me sad

Very false, friend.

I do hereby declare that the original post statement is contrary to the truth.

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1. Go back to rèddit

2. Supporting this commie is an indicator that YOU are a loser because you want him to give YOU money that was earned by someone else

But Trump is only a few years younger..? Not solely bashing him but you kind of have to include everyone older than 70 at this point.

Keep waiting FOR the mass EXODUS of the RICH to EXIT the USA.

THat BS has been paraded around since the BUSH years.

Learn how capitalism works, dipshit

I would rather be a massive fucking retard than a stinking communist dick sucking faggot.

I hear you there. BUT, do you believe we should NOT even TRY to TURN the TIDE?

There's some in that camp.

Get the MONEY out of POLITICS.

>he's realistically the only man who could get money out of politics
By taxing the populace more, putting more money in the government coffers and as a result, more money available for political manipulation. Sounds like the opposite of what you said. Good plan.

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Underrated post.

Yes. That’s exactly why Bernie could have made it last time.

And I think it’s a big difference if you run for re-election than for first time presidency.

You outed yourself as a USELESS MILLENNIAL

Your post was a little bit all over the place.

NOT going to lie AND say Sander's way is the only way in regards to healthcare.

BUT, IF we are truly SPENDING 2x per/capita than ANY other nation.

Don't you AGREE we NEED to CHANGE something about the WAY we're running HEATHCARE.

OR, is is JUST the USA is FULL of lazy A-Holes.

>Don't you AGREE we NEED to CHANGE something about the WAY we're running HEATHCARE.
The Dems already did. Made things worse didn't it.

NOT AND BUT, IF SPENDING ANY AGREE NEED CHANGE WAY HEATHCARE OR, JUST USA FULL

Fuck off reddit spacer.

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Yes, No one will make more than $50hr under BERNIE COMMIE LOL

Nah. You can make $50 an hour, you'll just be taking home $20 of that.

Dude understands the concepts of not abandoning the citizens to corporate tyranny, government needs to help people be contributing members of society as much as possible, not abandon those struggling to being neets.

Prexisting Conditions are COMMIE.

B4 Obama NOBODY wanted it.

What say you?

I don't think anyone was arguing against pre-existing conditions. But did the Dems have to fuck up the whole system to accomplish that?

>spotted the retard who trusts corporate conglomerates and oligarchs more than government
faggot.

Exaggeration.

Agree to disagree.

youtube.com/watch?v=IXY7mYfzeBw

youtube.com/watch?v=WDklTwNANog

Yeah ok bud.

He is a multi-millionaire one percenter who derives political support from gullible people who believe he intends to destroy the very group of which he is a part. He has never had a real job in his life and he has been in politics for 40 years yet portrays himself as an outsider. The fact that anybody supports him is astonishing to me.

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>corporate tyranny
Typed on a device created by a corporation and sent through the internet provided by a corporation, sitting on a chair made by a corporation. Those corporations are really holding you down faggot. How ever will you survive?

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Not an argument

So did you just type that on a government device or a device made by a corporation?

You forgot the part where he never took campaign donations from a high profile organization or contributor you fucking cuck. He's not beholden to any big money so there's no reason for him to reneg on his claims, unlike EVERY single other candidate in presidential history.

DUHHH I PAY, UH, TAXES DAT I OWE, UH, DONALLLLDDDDDD TRUMPPPP REEEE.

Fuck Bernie, I'm so amazed people on Cred Forums are stupid enough to not see through his bullshit.

Anyone voting for this commie should be hung as traitors.

So you are satisfied with the Health Care system the Dems have provided for you. Why the need to change it then?

A device with an intentional lifespan built into it, internet outrageously overpriced, a seat with a cover designed to wear easily requiring replacement. You act as if there was no alternative. Any other points you think you have?

>supporting the state whatsoever
Yall are fucked when the boogaloo commences

There’s plenty of ways to reduce your tax burden. Yes. Poor people can do it too.

>trusting for-profit businesses more than government
Imagine being this retarded

>thinking government isnt for profit
>trust le gubmint
Lick lick lick some boots
There's one government and im given the illusion of choice. There's more than one company I can choose from. Companies also wont become steppers lest they get booged

>trusting the government
Haven’t they already shown themselves to be doing a shit job as well? Why trust that?

Did anyone put a gun to your head and forced you to buy a smart phone or an expensive one? They're are plenty of cheaper alternatives and you didn't need to the government to come in and save you. You can also choose to spend more money and get higher quality things. This is basic living faggot. Does your mother still dress you?

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Yeah you're right the government is not to be trusted, but the world corpratocracy operates entirely on a for profit business model with human well-being not even being a factor considered in their equations.

That’s not how this works... that’s not how any of this works.

1. No politician on earth who has ran a successful campaign in any race ever has listed exactly what companies are going to be doing what for how much, or how money is spent down to the dollar. Campaigns are about solidifying they will if the people behind an agenda. This is supposed to work by the will of the people being heard by their representatives who then find the best way to implement that plan. Frankly even if one of bernies ideas passed I would be happy.

2. There are people trained already to do a shit ton of the jobs in the green economy. Look up Jeremy rifkin if you want an overview. Plenty of other people who are driving this forward but that’s the only name I can remember right now.

3. Did you read the policies on Yangs site? His were all over the place with even less detail. I like yang a lot and I think he should be in government but that guy was full on memeing his way to the presidency.

The whole point of a revolution is to reunite the American people to speak for their own self interests rather than be bent over by the rich.

You completely missed my point. Modern capitalism does not function without cyclical consumption and cyclical consumption does not function without capital with intrinsic obsolescence. It's inherently and wildy flawed.

>Anyone who doesn't support productivity and reason and supports whim-worship instead is a MASSIVE fucking retard
umm elaborate on that please

At least with the government it's easier to be watchdogs with them. Corporations are nearly untouchable. Federalist capitalism is trash but if we're going to continue under this model we need to rebalance it and transfer some of the influence back to the government away from corporations.

yeah because corporations never collude setting market price standards in every industry lmao.

>You completely missed my point.
You need to have a point first, not a whiny little fit.

Nice bait, switch, and intentional obliviousness, or are you actually retarded?

Holy shit that’s pathetic. The point is that they MAKE more than any of us will in a life time. the argument is that they should only pay the few tens of thousands that the rest of us pay is insane. Any government would collapse in a year with a flat tax rate.

Fuck I thought beat to death ideas like this died in the bush years.

>Denmark ranked as one of the best countries to do bussiness in
>Denmark is one of the happiest countries on Earth
>Denmark has a social democracy
>Bernie Sanders is a social democrat

Bernie Sanders will legitimately make us happier. Sorry that you privileged rich assholes hate the lower class earning a living wage. Get mad conservacucks.

How about he's loves and passionate about what he does.

Or is just he;s a Free-Loader?

He has a house in Dc, Vt, and a summer cottage.

Is that milking the system?

He's NOT a Fraud, he got ARRESTED for supporting MLK.

>being this defeatist

>Please sir, could I get a raise if I can fit another inch of this dildo up my ass?
>I can almost reach my gruel bowl if master moves my ball gag to the side a bit more.

I’m going to pretend that you aren’t American because that attitude is the most bitch ass unamerican shit I have read all day.

I'm the user that you are responding to. Modern capitalism does not function with cyclical consumption. Where the hell did you hear that? Wear and tear are a function of reality and would be here if capitalism existed or not. We do not live a world of limitless resources.

Get a load of this faggot.

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Y'all are incest loving freaks, at least I know I'm on the correct side of history.

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WOOOOOOW hes got a couple million dollars net worth versus trumps billions.

Sorry. Can’t hear you from the top of my pile of money

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You’ve never heard of Romney care, huh

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zerochan.us/0/ shit post it up for Bernie

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Anyone who *does* support this guy, there, fixed your obvious typo.

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Right that explains why the great depression happened then, considering it was due to a lack of capital movement because intrinsic obsolescence wasn't implemented yet. Basically, without continuous cyclical consumption it collapses.

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Yes, I have heard of Romneycare. Thought it was a stupid idea and the Dems chose to adopt it. Is there a point you are trying to make?

Change what? I'm NOT satisfied w/ the health
care provided for ME. I Don't VOTE on what's provided for me. What benefits ALL of us a society. The MASSES.

Try to meet a middle ground.

Please. Cyclical consumption is a function of reality. It existed since cavemen had to remake their stone axes and spears because it wasn't sharp anymore. You are totally overthinking the great depression.

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No shit sherlock my point was its being artificially exacerbated

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Try to understand that the Dems already had a crack at Healthcare, with a massive majority in the House, a super majority in the Senate and a Dem president and they produced something that is not satisfactory. So explain to me, why I should trust the Dems again, when they're the ones complaining about what they produced?

I'm NOT talking about my TAX BURDEN.
Since you allude to it. I'm 60.

I worry about young folks starting families and trying to buy a house that costs triple what I paid 30yrs ago when I was 29.

What's with the bernie shill threads?

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Establishment democrats sabotaged Obama's attempts to implement single payer and Obama couldn't do shit because of all the campaign donations he took. They purposely dissected Obamacare to be a compulsory enlistment with a fine as a penalty. Bernie, who's already said hes not on board with establishment democrats and opposes DNC leadership, HAS NOT taken any donations from anyone except the American people and thus doesn't have to go against his own will.

Not it isn't. Things function for as long as you care for them. Take shit care of something you buy, then expect it to break. Buy quality things, take care of them, and expect it not to break. It really sounds like you do not want to make any effort whatsoever and expect things to just magically exists forever without proper maintenance.

He's a fucking coward

That you have not paid attention to how that all went down. All of the addendums that made the plan successful were removed in the republican senate like the individual mandate

NO you fucking idiot. Almost everyone on earth understands how utilities and maintenance work. You literally are incapable of grasping how companies set lifespans for their products to induce equipment malfunction and failure earlier than they would otherwise.

>Establishment democrats sabotaged Obama's attempts to implement single payer and Obama couldn't do shit because of all the campaign donations he took.
So the Dems fucked it up. No amount of justification or reinterpretation of actual events will change that.

>Bernie, who's already said hes not on board with establishment democrats and opposes DNC leadership,
Then how the fuck does he expect to pass anything? He's lame ducking himself like an idiot.

I fully support him in the primaries. That way, I can enjoy the reaction of the BernieBros when Trump absolutely DEVASTATES him in the general.

Yes the dems fucked it up because both parties pretend to be at odds by orchestrating a false dichotomy so nothing changes and things stay exactly the same.

Through executive actions and public support like every other president.

>You literally are incapable of grasping how companies set lifespans for their products to induce equipment malfunction and failure
Name one. Name one corporation that intentionally makes substandard products, that will not get out-competed by another company that doesn't.

Except for the fact that Bernie has been projected in every single poll ever taken to lead trump by a significant margin, and if he does lose its via rigging and sabotage because the establishment hates Bernie more than Trump

But you're fucking wrong. That is how it works if you want to actually get the change you talk about.

I'll prove it by actually showing you instead of doing what you did where you type out your ass.

First - Rifkin, a dipshit that cant science, and is the combined product of a russian jew and daddy that got rich from dumping millions of fucking plastic bags on our planet. OK, eat shit.

Second - Did you read Yang's book? It covers policy even more in depth and has a fuckload of actual math to back the policy up.

Finally, here is a comparison directly.

This is BOTH candidates medicare for all policy page from their websites.

berniesanders.com/issues/medicare-for-all/

yang2020.com/blog/a-new-way-forward-for-healthcare-in-america/

Sorry, I'm gonna go ahead and say the meme is the guy whose healthcare policy could fit on a fucking post-it.

Seriously man, stop arguing on the internet. Dont reply to me, just go fucking read. Dont post on Cred Forums, dont tell other people what you think of shit, just shut your fucking mouth for a whole goddamn day and read shit.

You're better than this, get it together. Then maybe one day you can also get a qt3.14 asian waifu like Yang.

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Russian shillbots trying to stir up trouble and further separate US retards

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>projected in every single poll ever taken to lead trump by a significant margin

This sounds familiar...have I heard this somewhere before?

All of them. Google it you fucking imbecile, its common public knowledge. They don't get out competed by other companies via competition because of a little something called COLLUSION. Google the definition since you're clearly do not know it.

>Yes the dems fucked it up because both parties pretend to be at odds by orchestrating a false dichotomy so nothing changes and things stay exactly the same.
Just say it without all the qualifiers because it's bullshit. THE DEMS FUCKED IT UP. Nothing else needs to be said, because that is exactly what happened.

>Through executive actions and public support like every other president.
You are aware that a president can not simply will Medicare for all into existence. Congress creates the laws. You essentially want to vote for a dictatorship or a tyrant, which can thankfully can not be done in this country.

Intel, and basically every chip manufacturer, maximizes profits thought product life cycles and planned obsolescence. Failure exists on a spectrum.

>Google it you fucking imbecile, its common public knowledge.
I'm not the one making the assertion. You are. Prove your point. It isn't my job to prove your case. But that does seem to be the Dem way of late. Vote for impeachment and expect the senate to prove it for them. Just give me one corporation. It shouldn't be hard.

>Just say it without all the qualifiers because it's bullshit. THE DEMS FUCKED IT UP. Nothing else needs to be said, because that is exactly what happened.
There's conditions which explain the situation, no qualification needed.

>You are aware that a president can not simply will Medicare for all into existence. Congress creates the laws. You essentially want to vote for a dictatorship or a tyrant, which can thankfully can not be done in this country.
Seems to be going well when the last two presidents werent able to get anything they wanted done because of opposing litigation and being in big money's back pockets

forbes.com/sites/adamsarhan/2017/12/22/planned-obsolescence-apple-is-not-the-only-culprit/#6c873eb23cf2

You lose.

Intel makes chips each year. I'm an IT consultant. Computers do not fail because of the processor. In fact, there are plenty of older computers that still work, even with older processors. The reason people buy new computers, is because the technology advances at a rapid rate. Try another field, because I can tell you know nothing of what you're talking about.

>The reason people buy new computers, is because the technology advances at a rapid rate.
Gee willikers, that really explains why devices are wastebinned instead of upgraded. *rubs hands*

>There's conditions which explain the situation, no qualification needed.
Conditions are irrelevant and try to gloss over the completeness of the Dem failure. Complete control of government and they could not get it done.

>Seems to be going well when the last two presidents werent able to get anything they wanted done because of opposing litigation and being in big money's back pockets
You do realize that any expansion of Medicare will have to go through congress. You are aware of basic civics, correct?

Right, except the NRA? You're a fucking retard. You can clearly see who writes the dirty checks that pay for his THREE FUCKING HOMES and MULTI MILLION DOLLAR bank account if you take a quick look at Vermont policy.

Fuck man, have you ever even been to Vermont? Are you one of those dip shits that just writes crap on the net all day and pretends its real regardless of reality? You roleplaying?

The guy you replied to clearly fucking said "BERNIE IS MILLIONAIRE. PRETENDS TO HATE MILLIONAIRES."

You came back with "DERRRR HE NOT BEHOLDEN TO BIG MONEY, ONLY THE MILLIONS HE BEEN PAID DURRRR".

What the fuck man, seriously I want to know how you get to where you're at? HE HAS 3 FUCKING HOMES.

Do you just think every senator gets 3 homes by NOT TAKING FUCKIN' money? What are you fucking 12? godamnit, please dont ever vote bro.

By the way, Bernie Sanders is on record saying he believes $15 an hour min wage is a better policy than a UBI of 1k per month.

Do the MATH yourself Tony Stark, its not fucking hard to see.

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You fuckers actually installed the updates? Jesus, you are stupid. I have plenty of clients with older iPhones, that heeded my advice and the devices work just fine. But if Apple continues to do this, I can assure you, people will stop buying their products.

But more to the point. Who is holding a gun to your head, forcing you to buy an iPhone? There are plenty of alternatives.

>>There's conditions which explain the situation, no qualification needed.
You can say the same about every president in recent history which proves my position that they both suck from the start.

>You do realize that any expansion of Medicare will have to go through congress. You are aware of basic civics, correct?
I know how it works jackass. The point is its going to be nigh impossible to change anything, republican or democrat is irrelevant.

Your entire argument is bunk considering Bernie is one of the poorest candidates in recent history. I like yang too though. Bernie 2020-2024, yang 2028-2032

So you admit that they do it then, you just pretend its not a big deal afterwards lmao. What a waste of time. These faggots disagree no matter what you say

>sold out to Hillary
>no refunds
>3 HOUSES
>Literally a millionaire
>hypocrite

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How many Pentium 4's you want to use now? You think that is a processor we should still be using? You think I can put an 9th generation i7 in an older Pentium 4 board? Think that's even feasible? And why would I want to do that considering the improvements in the chipset and bus architecture. Stop making stupid comments.

The power of educating the whole person.

“That which a person did not burn for in his young days, he will not
easily work for as a man,” Christopher Arndt Bruun wrote. The idea
was to create in the mind of the student a sense of wider circles of
belonging — from family to town to nation — and an eagerness to
assume shared responsibility for the whole.

Scandinavian education looks at the complete moral, emotional,
intellectual and civic transformation of the person. It is based on
the idea that if people were going to be able to handle and contribute
to an emerging industrial society, they would need more complex inner lives.

"Their belief is that the individual matures and takes upon him or herself ever
bigger personal responsibility towards family, friends, fellow citizens, society,
humanity, our globe, and the global heritage of our species, while enjoying ever
bigger personal, moral and existential freedoms.”

Scandinavians have the lowest rates of corruption in the world. They have a distinctive sense of the relationship between personal freedom and communal responsibility.

In the U.S., social trust has been on the decline for decades. If the children of privilege get to go to the best schools, there’s not going to be much social mutuality. If those schools do not instill a love of nation, there’s not going to be much shared responsibility.

nytimes.com/2020/02/13/opinion/scandinavia-education.html

David Brooks is a Canadian-born American conservative political and cultural commentator who writes for The New York Times.

>BERNIES A HYPOCRITE FOR BEING MODESTLY WEALTHY AHFHSFUASDFHOASODFHUOASDF

meanwhile...
>TRUMPS A WILDLY RICH AND SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMAN AND WILL FIX THE ECONOMY

You're the hypocrite, not Bernie.

see You seething faggot. You want to keep sticking your head in the sand or actually acknowledge he hates millionaires and literally is one. Why doesnt he empty his money from his bank accounts and help the poor?

>You can say the same about every president in recent history which proves my position that they both suck from the start.
Name we one president in recent history that had a huge majority in the house and a super majority in the senate.

>I know how it works jackass. The point is its going to be nigh impossible to change anything, republican or democrat is irrelevant.
So Bernie is really promising pie in the sky bullshit that will never happen. Good to know. What's the point for voting for him again?

never gonna votefor a some one who supports the UN global warming agenda. his got some good points but problem is hes too much into the MSM liberal bullshit

>i completely lack even a basic grasp of how anything works but I like to LARP as an IT

You've yet to describe as to why or how it couldn't be done differently, all you know is the existing model. You really think it would be that hard to design electronics to be upgrade-able or part replaceable down to the CPU?

Leftist poorfags are praying that a Communist Regime will finally make them a somebody. Lmfao. You poorfags will always be nobody's...

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What's your point?

Trump billionaire, Sanders Low-end Millionaire.

Has NOTHING to Do with ANYTHING.

>david brooks is a conservative
He's been selling that lie since the 80's

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TRUEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Yo any TRUErs in the chat???

>Name we one president in recent history that had a huge majority in the house and a super majority in the senate.
All that demonstrates is that presidents can't do their job, even when they have ideal circumstances.

>So Bernie is really promising pie in the sky bullshit that will never happen. Good to know. What's the point for voting for him again?
What that means is positive change doesn't come through bureaucracy, it comes through public demand. Yes, it has to go through that medium, but it won't happen all on its own shithead.

Spot on!

HAHAHAAH I will be voting to the Dem party this march just to make it fun ...Go Bernie Commy bitch

Did anyone put a gun to your head and force you to suck a massive amount of cock?

Go shit on trump for that, Bernie is a small fry in comparison to most politicians.

Anyone who thinks the president of the retarded states does anything other than sit in a chair is a massive fucking retard

Explain this logic
>bernie literally says millionaires and billionaires ruined the country and are evil, and a system that allows both is evil.
>Bernie is a millionaire
>Bernie isn't a hypocrite

So I point out facts that are literally undisputed and you call me a hypocrite? You are such low IQ, no wonder all bernouts are fucking man children cucks. Enjoy the eventual defeat in November.

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Instead of the nonsense you suggested hes using what modest wealth he has to help people instead of just divvying it out as if that would accomplish a god damn thing.

>You've yet to describe as to why or how it couldn't be done differently, all you know is the existing model.
Believe me kid. I'm not just living in a existing model. I have been the business for 20 years. There are a ton of different components that go into a computer, and each one of them makes advancements over time. This is literally the cheapest model in existence for computers and they are up gradable. For instance, I can install SSD hard drives in a computer for cheap and get a huge performance upgrade, and I can do this with most any computer that has a SATA connection. But just because I can do that, doesn't mean that I should always do that. You can upgrade the Video Card, the Power Supply, a whole host of peripherals. The buses on the board are all backward compatible. You can install extra hard drives for more storage. I can even build a raid for your dumbass cheap desktop. So, I'll ask again. Stop talking about things you have no idea about.

5 words: Takes one to know one. Just obliterated your entire existence didnt i

Cuz some folks lost their doctors?
Lot of 'Blue Dog" Democrats who cater to their constituents were against ACA,

It was no cake-walk.

Conservatives HATE CHANGE. Public Option was the way to go, but RURAL DEMOCRATS couldn't handle it.

ROCK ON.

Sure its the cheapest model in existence but a better one could easily be devised if desired but its not so you're wrong. The rest of your argument is trying to justify binning all devices instead of maximizing their lifespan through upgrading and that itself is what should be discarded, not the electronics.

Oh you mean all the factual information that you cannot ever dispute? That information? Also can you provide the sources where you suggest sanders is using his personal millions (thanks for acknowledging he is a millionaire hypocrite) to help "better" people's lives? Show me one bank statement, or any other shred of evidence of that ridiculous claim. You dumb faggot, you cant because there isn't any. He is a failed politician who had never even had a signature piece of legislation that has been passed. You do realize he will never be president right? Tell us all here that you can at least acknowledge reality.

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>All that demonstrates is that presidents can't do their job, even when they have ideal circumstances.
No. It means that Obama was a deer in the headlights and couldn't get shit done under the best of conditions.

>What that means is positive change doesn't come through bureaucracy, it comes through public demand.
It comes from actually being able to get shit done. But the biggest irony is that you said "positive change doesn't come through the Bureaucracy". Which is the absolute truth. Unfortunately, Bernie wants to create more of a bureaucracy.

Someone is triggered.

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Yep. So you can ENJOY 2nd tax cuts for the RICH!

Takes one to know what? I can admit ive been a hypocrite before, so has anyone else thats existed, but rather than acknowledge the FACT that BERNIE is a MILLONAIRE with THREE HOUSES, you deflect. Its not about anyone else, its about his claims that a society that can allow people to create immense wealth of millions or billions is unjust at a minimum and evil, he attacks what he is, a SOCIALIST/COMMIE that is a MILLIONAIRE with THREE HOUSES.

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>any other shred of evidence of that ridiculous claim
Case and point, his presedential campaign. Stop jumping to conclusions about what he may or may not do and let them prove himself. How will he ever get a chance if you fucking blackball him beforehand?

More like Obama didn't have the talent to build a coalition, despite having a super majority and wasted all his political capital on something he should have waited for. Dems got killed in the 2010 midterms as a result.

>more beauracracy
By getting the money out of politics? Yeah that seems exactly like the effect it would have, hmmm... I think you're onto something!

*Cough* Hillary *cough*

This pleb is unironically citing poll results as some kind of factual measuring stick to actual results. Holy fuck, my sides.

Your argument is invalided by the simple fact that hes on the lower end of the spectrum and you're peddling it as if hes the upper echelons. You don't have shit kid, just accept it.

REEEEEEEEE OMG ALL MY FRIENDS DIDNT GET A LIBERAL ARTS DEGREE IN WYMENS GENDER QUEER FASHION STUDIES REEEEEEEE NOW THEY MAKE 65K A YEAR AND ARE RICH!!!!! THEY DONT DESERVE IT!! ARGRGAGAGREEEE ... I DESERVE ALL MY STUDENT LOANS I TOOK OUT FOR THIS SUPER PROGRESSIVE DEGREE TO BE WIPED AWAY AT THEIR EXPENSE !!!!! GOD DAMN IT DRUMPFFFFFFFF

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>Sure its the cheapest model in existence but a better one could easily be devised if desired but its not so you're wrong.
Dipshit. If a better model existed, don't you think it would have been tried? Maybe we should just stop the progress of technology for your sensitive sensibilities. Soviets tried this. Enjoy your Soviet era cars.

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Yeah and whistleblowers leaked the fact that it was rigged and those responsible caught.

You made the claims bucko, now support with evidence. Case in point his campaign? How the fuck is he helping people with his campaign? Is that feeding hungry people, getting homeless off the streets? No he is asking for donations, he's not spending his MILLIONS, you know how a campaign works right user... jesus christ, you faggots must be 18 or something.

at least dont be so proud about licking boots

You literally don't comprehend the difference between something existing or something being made. Once again, you're incapable of thinking outside the existing model my original point against you.

Zoom-Tards support the Boin

insanity

you're being dramatic

plenty of countries are thriving with nationalized healthcare

Bernie Sanders will not plunge the US immediately into the depths of a Soviet nightmare single handedly

>By getting the money out of politics?
Whenever you create a massive government program, which Medicare for all would be, you create Bureaucracy. You do know what bureaucracy is, right?

Drug dealers are caught daily, does that mean there will be no more drug dealers ever?

BERNIE IS
1. A MILLIONAIRE
2. HAS 3 HOUSES
3. SAID MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES ARE EVIL AND SHOULD BE ELIMINATED

ALL FACTS

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Who claimed it was going to stop?

Mainstream poll: let's get 1,000 people together, 900 are registered Democrat, and see who they will vote for, Bernie or Trump.

They said Bernie so Bernie will win.

Fuck off retard.

He is paying his staff at least 15 an hour. He is campaigning to change the laws that keep homeless people on the streets and poor people hungry. Concern trolling isn't gonna get you very far.

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YESSSSSSS GOD DAMN IT, YES IT DOES!!!!!! REEEEEEEEE

this is what we are dealing with in this thread. Protip, buy some stock in rope manufacturers, their stock is going up in November.

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Thought that was the point you were trying to make, by saying they were caught.

This is a common misconception. Currently the bureaucracy in the healthcare industry is the reason it's so expensive. The entire point of nationalization is to eliminate middle men and unnecessary administrators.

OH WOWOWOWOW $15 AN HOUR, FUCKING LIFE CHANGING AMOUNT OF MONEY, MAYBE EVEN MORE THAN WAITING TABL, oh wait.. its not. Try again.

Name me a model that is better and cheaper than the current one? Something that can turns those 0s and 1s into the porn you watch for faster and cheaper. All you Bernie Bros seem to have is an outdated model that should have died with the Soviets.

Healthcare for all! Is that so wrong? Bernie 2020!

>Anyone who supports this guy is a MASSIVE fucking retard
there, I fixed it for you. Get fucked commie-fags

Bernie Sanders never said millionaires should be eliminated and they shouldn't. That's a perfectly reasonable amount of wealth to accumulate. The difference between a million and a billion dollars is a billion dollars.

>plenty of countries are thriving with nationalized healthcare
What the fuck are you talking about? I wasn't talking about Health Care. Try to keep up Plebbit fag. I realize this is the style of message board you are used to.

Haha that guy rules is he an example of a thing you think is bad?

In essence, it doesn't exist yet but could be easily done if so desired. There now im repeating myself

>Currently the bureaucracy in the healthcare industry is the reason it's so expensive.
Beautiful, let's just kill all the insurance commissioners and bloated government and give that a try first, before we have the government create a massive bureaucratic mess.

He's the only candidate ethical enough to do it so yeah what did you say WOWOWOWOW

Spam elsewhere

>In essence, it doesn't exist yet but could be easily done if so desired.
If it was so easy, then it would have been done already. You are aware the world didn't just start when you were born? Tell you what, just solve the problem of finite resources and then we'll talk about a better way.

I was talking about healthcare and your ridiculous dramatic fear mongering. XD

Literally the Bernie platform. But you wouldn't know that because you've never heard him speak at length about his beliefs.

we don't have insurance commissioners you aren't even american why are you pretending to have a dog in this fight

You realize Bernie is straight up a commie, have you ever cracked open a history book? Should we even start there? How about when mayor ButtPlug asked Bernie how the fuck is he going to pay for all the shit, which is basic math, about 50 trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities. How? Do you know the GDP of the US? You could suck up every fucking pennie from each couch coushin, every cars cup holder, imprison every millionaire and billionaire in the US and you still would have over 25 trillion in unfunded liabilities for all his social "programs". Even if we all thought his ideas are good, you cant even accomplish it. Its mathematically impossible. Take it from a Democrat even, not me. Thats just scratching the surface. Oh, universal healthcare, lets go there, so now you mandate pricing and cover everyone, what does a Dr make now then, are they forced to provide services to some one no matter what, is the government going to chase them down and force them to perform a surgery ? Will the fixed pricing even help them recover all the years of their life in school & money spent on a degree? Oh and free school, so what now, you go to school in 13th grade, 14th grade, get your degree when you finish government school in 16th grade. What sets you apart from everyone else then when going for a job? Oh maybe a masters degree, so you finish 18th grade of government school like every other faggot. Who determines who gets in for what program, I mean its all free right, it should be available to anyone. So I guess that doctor you forced to give surgeries on fixed pricing, maybe he was the worst in the university but he finished 18th grade and had to be allowed in med school because no one pays for college its all free to everyone.

Have you even thought out a few things about the shit he spews. Bernouts are going to be the first taken out once the socialist regime takes over, but it never will because the majority of Americans are not fucking faggots like bernouts

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No basic math tells us the difference is 999,000,000

nah, actually BloomBERG is paying people $2500 a month to post online for him.

here's how he's paying for it, triggered dramatic novelist

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Confiscate all wealth.
Nobody needs to live in more than a 900 square foot appartment in the city.
Nobody needs to make more than 30K a year.
Nobody needs a car when there are city buses.
Product purchasing choices need to be limited to streamline and control prices.
Bernie is the ONLY candidate that can deliver this.
The time is NOW.

Most innovation in electronics comes from pentagon funded research. Have you like, ever heard of MIT?

youtu.be/VSJjlaggbK0

In addition to profiting off of government research, those same companies become unfathomably wealthy off of pentagon contracts. Amazon, Microsoft, google, oracle. They’re all gigantic defense contractors.

Yet the same people who have these pentagon make work jobs bemoan “socialism”.

Get your head checked.

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You have a lot of faith in established models assuming they're the pinnacle of anything nitwit. That's the logical of a fundamentalist christian for you.

You didn't read shit from the post did you. You cannot pay for it all, its not possible from a MATHEMATICAL PERSPECTIVE. You bernouts are dumb.

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>insane dramatic lies

US healthcare is the best.
Where did Mick Jagger go last year for surgery? To the USA.
Creating new medicines costs more than just copying them.
PharmaBro and a few other aberrations aside, the USA subsidizes healthcare for the rest of the world.
Money is the reward for being better and more efficient.

>Ill take exaggeration and dramatization for 1000 please
>DAILY DOUBLE!

Random caps make YOU look STupid.

Fuck off sellout.
Don't call my beliefs lies

BERNIES MY MAN
TEAR IT ALL DOWN

BERN BERN BERN BERN BERN

Lolol what do you think he would be spending 50 trillion dollars on XD

Yes Bernie's plan is to gift every single person in the country 150,000 dollars per year

You can't make up this level of dumb

Go reeeeeee somewhere else schizo

You are a special type of stupid. We're are talking technology and you link me to Noam Chomsky. Everyone know the internet was initially funded by the government, but it took innovation from corporate entities to deliver it to the masses and make it what it is today. Just stop kid and go back to class.

You need to breathe or lower the dose of Adderall duder. You're embarrassing yourself.

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Innovation... funded by... taxation

Conservitard logic crumbles even under the most rudimentary scrutiny. Clearly they wouldn't support the existing models if they didn't have a personal stake in it via their circumstances, put them in a poor man's shoes for even a day and they would be on board immediately.

Doesn't Bernie realize that if he ever said he wanted to fuck any of his supporters they would turn on him like a pitbull?

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You didn’t watch the video, simp.

Keep championing your corporate masters. I’m sure you have a nice, comfortable, corporate job. I’m sure they feed you nicely. I’m sure you must think you’re such a good little boy.

At least be honest and just admit that you’re defending your economic self interest against those of the masses. Don’t try to convince me I should lick the boot too.

Oink oink piggy. Eat up! Hope it doesn’t go dry.

No fucking way.
BERN OR BUST.

Weed? Legal.
War on drugs? Over man
Can't afford housing? Here you go lad
Need tendies? Put em on the card bro.

Make them fat cat fuckers pay for it. They got the Benjies man.

BERN BERN BERN
WHOOOOOOOO

They're solipsistic jackasses. They lie for personal gain. They have no integrity. No ethics. All that matters is that they themselves eat today. They have no concept of the future or other people. They're the first to beg for help and blame others for their problems and the last to offer assistance unless they personally judge the recipient deserving of help. They're legitimately bad.

breathe, spaz

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>well doctor he's gone
>full blown Bernie Derangement Syndrome

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They're literal tools. They're like subservient little monkeys performing tricks and trading their dignity for cushy positions. They are bereft of any worldy experience, empathy for those is need, completely incapable of visualizing themselves in others shoes. Mommy and daddy handed them everything and taught them to be little servile bitches.

Im breathing man.
Im breathing the BERN.

Take a deep breath of his righteous plan man.

HE WILL DELIVER OUR NEEDS

Here be a good monkey and perform some tricks for a measly reward! Federalist capitalism in a nutshell.

Increased taxes, reduced insurances.

I guess the insurance commissioner I vote for in California doesn't exist.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Insurance_Commissioner

user, I'm sorry to have to break it to you, but even if he won he has to work with the legislative branch to get stuff done. Have you noticed how little the legislative gets done nowadays? It took Trump his whole first term just to get the border wall rolling, and that is a fairly common sense law to pass. How's this ancient geyser supposed to push his commie agenda that's completely opposite of current systems? The legislative ain't that much of a pushover.

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Then respond to the right person because I wasn't.

Thing is, I’m very privileged. Great childhood. College paid for. Great job, making exactly 100k two years out of college. Great benefits.

If Medicare for all were implemented as planned, I would be slightly worse off. I pay $80/month for a great plan with zero copay or deductibles.

I have every reason to be content with the system. And I’ll admit — I don’t care as passionately about changing it, because I’ll be just fine either way.

But I still have a fucking brain, and I can identify the basic structure of the world. This guy is just a chimp-brained simpleton. Totally unreachable. There’s nothing in that head.

I'm not a fundamentalists. Where did that even come from. Your debate tactics are a decade off.

Fat people

If college becomes free, guess how many colleges will raise their tuition?
Fucking IDIOTS.

I'm sure Microsoft and Google can exist just fine without a government contract. If anything, this tells you the government needs them more because they're unable to do it.

Eat shit, Commie.

Naw man
If you double free, it's like still free man

BERN BERN BERN

Not a Communist Regime DUMB ASS.

Why would I. If we are talking technology and I send you a video of Alex Jones, you wouldn't watch that either and you'd be right.

Go out, earn some money, start a business, build some capital. Live life. You'll be a hell of a lot happier than worrying about corporate boogeymen.

Sure, maybe it only accounts for half of their wealth.

That’s still trillions of dollars stolen from tax payers and funneled into defense contractors (weapons manufacturers).

To what end?

Figured that all out but sitting in your basement, typing away on your corporate device? You are literal walking ironies and haven't the gray matter to get the joke.

If you had a brain you would be more willing to sacrifice a little short term for something the majority of Americans stand to benefit from. It's called the altruistic argument for selfishness. The more well off and successful others are the more you benefit from their success. You don't have a grasp of any of the mechanics nearly anything because if you did you wouldn't hold your current position in this debate.
youtube.com/watch?v=rvskMHn0sqQ

You picked the wrong example shit brains. I’d watch any Alex Jones video for any reason. I’m a big fan.

Noam Chomsky was a professor at MIT for 50+ years. You don’t think he knows something about procurement and pentagon research?

You are so fucking stupid.

What's that faggot? Trump is fucking you in the ass?

I bet it doesn't even account for a drop. Point is, the government needs Microsoft more than the other way around.

Too Bad, you can't REFUTE why the USA spends 2x per/capita on health care than ANY nation on EARTH.

lol you vote republicuck in California have fun with that

I'm a fan of neither and both have jack shit to do about technology.

Noam Chomsky is a linguistics professor. Maybe I should ask home to clone my hard drive and not the proper use of a preposition. Catch the point?

Cry more bitch.

You corroborated every single point I made and thus all you had left were insults, not a single logical thought whatsoever. You people better hope nobody shows up in opposition at the polls or your parading for a little extra is permanently coming to an end.

Useless BS. Vote for Fraudulent Billionaire b/c he will MAKE you RICH.

DUH.

I'm not a republican. That's the thing you faggots can never seem to fathom. Not everyone is as lock step as you shills.

Same. I make a little more than you but we're in the same tax bracket. Bernie owns.

None because it will be free?

Did I touch a nerve?

They never could have been created without government contracts there you go confusing creation for existing again

NO. that way the blacks and gays get NO RIGHTS, you FAGGOT FUCK.

I’m perfectly happy.

Like I said, I’m doing well. The amount I have in savings is probably in the 90-95th percentile for someone my age.

I still have brain cells. I’m sorry you don’t.

I’m not making some broad argument about personal success, or unequal outcomes. I’m taking about a system that steals money from people (through taxes and debasing the currency), and hands the money out to banks and weapons manufacturers.

That’s the world we live in. That’s real politik. I’m sorry you bought into the messaging.

Those weren't insults. I'm a hundred percent certain that you are typing all this thoughts out on a device brought to you by a corporation. And I was also right that you don't have the mental faculties to get the irony.

Basement? Corporate device? We got to the moon with a top marginal tax rate over 70% I think we'll be ok.

Well I suppose if you want to watch the world burn there's no better way than converting the largest economy and military power into a socialist nation so that the entire world order is ripped apart.

But I prefer having food and electricity thanks.

Which government contract did Microsoft get that caused their existence? Be specific.

?

Even if you're a fucking commie, you're a retard for voting for this piece of shit

>Blames the 1% for all of your problems despite living the life of the 1%
>Is part of the 1% but also enjoys significantly lower taxes because hes in Congress
>Has several vacation homes but preaches about how greed is bad
>Campaigns for workers rights, but fired a bunch of his campaign employees because they wanted to unionize
>Also campaigns for 15/hr wages but only paid a lot of his campaign workers 10/hr

Bernie is the prime example of a champagne socialist and you drank his kool-aid if you support him.

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You are not nearly as smart as you think you are.

>hurr you use a corporate device.
Yeah, and the revolutionaries used the King's muskets.

Literally their first contract developing BASIC interpreters for Dept of Defense machines?

Ok retard

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Yup.

Just because I do not support nationalized healthcare or wealth redistribution, does not mean I support corporate welfare or war. But to label every corporation as evil is ridiculous and counter productive, because some of those entities are also improving the quality of life and if you can't see that, you're a fool.

78yrs old, Sold a couple 'Revolution' Books.

Too Fucking Bad.

>>Blames the 1% for all of your problems despite living the life of the 1%
Hes such a culprit being in the lowest bracket of that echelon eh?
>>Is part of the 1% but also enjoys significantly lower taxes because hes in Congress
So do all the other assholes abusing the system far more.
>>Has several vacation homes but preaches about how greed is bad
Wow, he enjoys leisure that son of a bitch...
>>Campaigns for workers rights, but fired a bunch of his campaign employees because they wanted to unionize
>Also campaigns for 15/hr wages but only paid a lot of his campaign workers 10/hr
Source?
Only kool-aid being had here is by conservatives who think the public getting repeatedly shafted is in their best interests lmao.

Shill.

Dude, just now Amazon and Oracle are fighting over a single intelligence contract worth 10 billion dollar.

It’s easier to google information about companies like Boeing and Raytheon, because those are formally referred to as “defense contractors”. Go look up the kind of money these companies get every fucking year.

The government needs it FOR WHAT? The government blows trillions of dollars floating these companies because THESE COMPANIES BRIBE AND LOBBY GOVERNMENT TO DO SO.

Please dude, read a book or something. Please. Don’t just define your worldview on hunches, and on what sounds correct to you.

Imagine calling a computer a 'corporate device' to try to make a point lol

>You use socialist roads to get to the everywhere

I love how you fuckers seem to make up the tax rates as you go. And yes, we did go to the moon and the Malaise of the 70's was the price. Everything has a cost.

Subjective. Next argument.

He pays a 15 dollar per hour minimum to staffers. He has never fired anyone for unionizing. That's illegal anyway. A million dollars net worth is fuckall in 2020. A billion is obscene and exploitative.

Yeah, I'm sure that's iot. [sarc]

And it wasn't until the contract with IBM until Microsoft even half resembles what it looks like today. But I'm sure that government contract was the real edge they needed. Kek.

Since you haven't denied it. I stand by what I said. Maybe your in a cubicle wasting your bosses money.

So what about during the 40s and 50s when the top marginal rate was 90%

Nothing was invented and the US was clearly a communist country right?

You guys are dramatic and hysterical like clockwork.

>Hes such a culprit being in the lowest bracket of that echelon eh?

The lesser of two "evils" is still evil my guy

>So do all the other assholes abusing the system far more.

Maybe the most influential of corporations like Amazon and Wal-Mart, yeah. But the countless of businesses who make scraps compared to these institutions get the ever living fuck taxed out of them, and are always the ones who end up suffering from aggressive tax codes.

>Wow, he enjoys leisure that son of a bitch...
Literally what Bernie supporters criticize wealthy people for doing. Hypocrisy.

>Source?
cnbc.com/2019/07/25/former-bernie-sanders-staffer-alleges-retaliation-for-union-activities.html

reason.com/2019/07/19/bernie-sanders-gets-a-lesson-in-what-a-15-minimum-wage-would-mean/

Now, to be fair. Bernie sanders has increased the wages to 15/hr since this article was written like said. However, he had to cut a portion of campaigners after doing this.

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Did the government provide you with the computer? Did it magically fall from the sky? Did you shit it out of your ass? Pretty sure you bought it from some corporate store, with a corporate card, and the computer was made by some evil corporation. Facts don't agree with your opinion.

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Of course markets are good. Markets are efficient. Corporations, or some form thereof, are useful ways of organizing people.

The point is... in a country where the entire system is set up to funnel vast swaths of stolen money into weapons manufacturers, and to further entrench capital.......... the thing you’ve chosen to expend your limited energy on is bemoaning the lazy poor who dare to want a bit more.

I have apprehensions about Medicare for all, and I think free 4 year college is dumb.

I still think we should aim to organize society in a more democratic way. And that means “radical” changes that the ruling class will not like.

Nothing wrong with that. I'm sure Oracle or Amazon will survive even without the contract. But will the government what it wants? Seems like they need a corporation to make it happen.

>its bad when I have to buy a computer with my own money, the government should instead just steal my money and use only a portion of it to buy an inferior computer.

Eat shit faggot

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Computers were invented under a 70% top marginal tax rate. Returning to that isn't communism. Are you drunk or high, Pepe?

>I have no rebuttal

he seems like a good guy. but I wont vote for him. to fuckin old. already had a heart attack once. fuck that. it don't matter cause he cant and wont beat trump

You don’t think... IBM made a lot of money... from government contracts?

They literally worked with the Nazis to help them organize the holocaust. Again... read a book some time.

Bernie bros we have reached the point in the discussion where the bullshit has gotten so thick and the triggered so retarded that they're engaging in friendly fire now lulz.

Republicans are criminal liars.

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What was the capital gains? What was the upward mobility?
What was the poverty rate?
What was unemployment?

You look at one thing and you think that paints the whole picture.

good your post was retarded

At this point you’re trolling.

Bro.... even most or us Vermonters can't fucking stand him. It was either him or some redneck named JimBob. Shall I bring up how his wife totally fucked Burlington College out of millions?

Not an argument

Again, you're fucking wrong.

You can even view the Obama family tax returns for free online.

Their charity rate? 14%

The Sanders rate? 3.4%

Meanwhile, the Sanders made over 1 million dollars in 2017 alone.

berniesanders.com/tax-returns/

See I post things called PROOF instead of running my fucking mouth.

opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/financial-disclosures-and-net-worth

OH! Check that out! Proof that Bernie is literally richer than NINE OTHER FUCKING PEOPLE WHO RAN THIS YEAR ALONE.

Godamnit, you're wrong.

So just to be clear on what these fucking HARD NUMBERS PROVE;

Bernie Sanders is one of the wealthier millionaires running.

Bernie Sanders donates less to charitable sources than Obama and even donates LESS than the average family making 25K a year who have an average donation rate of 4.2%

opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/financial-disclosures-and-net-worth

Just so you get this through your head.

Bernie Sanders, the fucking MILLIONAIRE donates a lower % of his income to charity every year than the Obama family OR the average American family making 25k a year.

So ya, fuck him, he is a hypocrite and a liar.

Dont get played man. Its yang 2024 for sure but please dont push Bernie - he is an instant fucking lose vs Trump. Dont get me wrong, Trumps numbers are huge right now and likely no dem can defeat him but Bernie is poison for the dem party and for America.

His supporters breed division in the party and weaken American unity overall. If you like Yang you gotta be the kind of person who can learn new things and understand these concepts, I'm sure you're smart. Read what I linked, see for yourself. Double check it all.

DO THE MATH.

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Retards think $50 an hour is a lot when you can make that on uber on a good night
Ultimate level cringe, this guy doesnt know the difference between earning money from booksales and taking corporate PAC money

This. Explain this then, faggots. nytimes.com/2019/06/21/us/politics/jane-omeara-sanders-burlington-college.html

Reminder all sanders fags look like this

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IBM origins:

In 1896, The Tabulating Machine Company leased some machines to a railway company but quickly focused on the challenges of the largest statistical endeavor of its day – the1900 US Census. After winning the government contract,

Since I consider taxes stolen wealth, can I be a part of the club? I hope you realize that a lot of Trump voters despise cronyism and is one of the reasons he got elected.

This guy is SEETHING
Yang is a total sellout and you guys know it, and if you don't it's just embarrassing

Failed politician? You mean he wouldn't conform to the corruption.
The only fact is that you are a retard

Personal computers were not. Guess the rich can afford things under a 70 percent marginal rate.

the show is boring without Yang

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has anyone ever been this triggered sin the history of Cred Forums lol

take your meds dude, relax, it's just words, you can turn your computer off and it all goes away

>sometimes companies provide services that are of value

Do you actually think I’m attempting to refute that? Is that what you’re getting from this?

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>one of the wealthier millionaires
my sides XD

Steyr and Bloomberg each have ten thousand times his 'wealth'

Fine. Everything that was ever good was created by the government. Corporations only survive because of the governments brilliance in needing something. Otherwise they would not exist.

Uhh.. wait... you’re making my point.

MALFUNCTION

>Yang supporters that dont even expend the energy to pay attention, he rolled over and took it in the ass for CNN

>Bernie Bros
So you guys legit raiding?

Taxes are not theft. Thieves don't give you a bunch of stuff in exchange for robbing only some of your money XD

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No. Market forces are necessary. Companies are necessary.

It’s just not acceptable for the underclass to demand a larger share.

That’s all friend.