I'm a trans individual who has been on Cred Forums for years. I've yet to see any definitive proof that anything which is largely accepted by the trans community is bad for them, and I'm here to address these issues.
Let's get a hot topic out of the way first: gender reassignment surgery is as necessary for individuals experiencing severe gender dysphoria as chemo would be for a cancer patient. Yes, some people still unfortunately kill themselves. But, every single person who undergoes surgery who doesnt is a person whose life is saved. It is not cosmetic, it is life saving.
Secondly, estrogen is not bad for your mind or body in any way as an assigned-at-birth male. There is zero scientific evidence that it is. This is baseless and only serves to scare people away from taking the medicine they need
Third: it can be "too late to change". I am 37 and I only began hrt 5 years ago. Within two years I was visually passing and now my voice sounds indistinguishable from any other woman's.
Finally, that it is bad for children to transition. Most children have no issue with this and think it's cool to know a trans individual. And giving children estrogen does in fact make it easier on them psychologically to go through their lives as a woman. There is zero evidence that any child has experienced adverse effects growing up compared to non-trans children.
I will talk to anyone about any of these things. I'm just sick of seeing baseless bullshit spewed about us on this board. Seeing that stuff early on in my transition made me think about some things I never want to think about again. And anyone who posts pictures of girls who are having trouble passing is participating in psychological abuse.
glad you announced that you sage'd the thread would have been just enough to not reply but yeah post 'sage' so everyone knows that when you replied, you simply did not bump the thread while doing so
congratulations
Liam Wilson
What's your thoughts on male chastity devices and have you ever locked a guy in one or ever wanted to
Levi Baker
Fuck off to Reddit you hon. You’re a goddamn monster. You’re a man. A shit example of one but still a man
Isaac Walker
41% urself already
Jace Rodriguez
Ass pics please if that's really you
James Ortiz
Okay, let us get a few things out of the way...
>gender reassignment surgery is as necessary for individuals experiencing severe gender dysphoria as chemo would be for a cancer patient This is false. Surgery is not a solution for mental illness. If you believe you are something you are not, there is an issue with your brain and not your body.
>it is bad for children to transition This little snippet is actually true. Starting a child transitioning before puberty and even before they are an adult, is child abuse. There are many, many cases where someone transitioned early and then, once they grew up, regretted it and tried to transition back.
Then again, there should be no "transitioning" because it is all a mental illness. If you were born with a dick, you are a male, born with a vagina, female. No amount of feelings will change this. If you die and need to be identified using DNA, it will show you as your birth sex and nothing more. True science doesn't care about your feelings. It cares about facts.
Trans people are just another mentally ill subset of people like schizophrenics, psychopaths, and sociopaths.
Jack Barnes
What do you think is the minimum age of being able to decide on whether you are trans or not?
James Martin
3/10
Josiah Barnes
nobody gives a shit buffalo bill >mfw jame gumb wants to talk about normal
Heres a fun thing for you Heterochromia is genetically more common than gender dysphoria. Yet every time we turn around there are piles of tans people... but i dont see piles of people with Heterochromia [different colored eyes]
That tells me that a large amount of you "trans people" are just a bunch of bandwagon mongoloids.
enjoy your permanent choices to mutilate your bodies for the sake of being trendy. You are simply the mullet of this generation.
>gender reassignment surgery is as necessary for individuals experiencing severe gender dysphoria as chemo would be for a cancer patient Chem is only one of a number of possible treatments for cancer. The same is true of GRS. There are other treatment options, and the exact one is down to individual circumstances and the opinion of qualified medical practitioners, based on the body of medical evidence available at the time of treatment.
> estrogen is not bad for your mind or body in any way as an assigned-at-birth male. That depends on one's definition of "bad".
> Third: it can be "too late to change". I am 37 and I only began hrt 5 years ago. Within two years I was visually passing and now my voice sounds indistinguishable from any other woman's. Subjective, and varies depending on individual circumstances.
> Most children have no issue with this and think it's cool to know a trans individual. The argument about it being bad for children has little to do with other children's opinions of them.
> And giving children estrogen does in fact make it easier on them psychologically to go through their lives as a woman Assuming that's what they want and what is best for them. Unfortunately, children are amazingly bad at knowing what they want in the long run and knowing what is good or bad for them. This is why children are under the care of adults until maturity (and the level of care tapers off as they mature)
> There is zero evidence that any child has experienced adverse effects growing up compared to non-trans children. Excepting the cases where a child has transitioned and later decided they do not wish to be [destination gender]. Studies are unclear on the numbers, as it's a relatively new phenomenon, but the proportion appears to be non-negligible.
Jason Roberts
There should be none. They decide when they want, whenever.
Chase Lopez
>Trans people are just another mentally ill subset of people like schizophrenics, psychopaths, and sociopaths.
So would you say, much like schizos and people with APD (psycho's/socio's), that trannies cant actually be cured?
Easton Bell
> Finally, that it is bad for children to transition. Most children have no issue with this and think it's cool to know a trans individual. Now thats quality bait, why waste it here when Cred Forums is just next door?
>anything which is largely accepted by the trans community ?? Such as?
>gender reassignment surgery is as necessary That does a horrific injustice to those who are facing a terminal illness. Being insane is not terminal. If you have a chemical imbalance in your brain, drugs might be an option, although I doubt this has been explored. Mutilation is much easier, but still doesn't address the underlying psychological issues.
>It is not cosmetic, it is life saving. It is indeed cosmetic, perpetrated by skilled butchers who have found a niche market. They are surgeons, not psychologists. It is their business to alter the physical structure, regardless of your state of mind.
>estrogen ... the medicine they need An means to fight the natural chemistry in your body. You are not femnale, you do not produce it, you do not need it to live. You need it to perpetuate the myth that you are what you are not, and to deceive yourself regarding your existence. You will not get pregnant, you will not produce eggs, you will probably not give birth (and certainly not without surgical and constant medical editing).
>my voice sounds indistinguishable from any other woman's. Okay. ??
>Finally, that it is bad for children to transition. A child does not understand what sex is. They understand the superficial, but so not know what the act of sex is like, nor the consequences of being childless. If you are so certain that tehy have this understanding, then you probably also believe that having prepubescent sex is okay, as it implies they have a full understanding of what that's all about, therefore no trauma associated with that either.
>girls who are having trouble passing You realize the irony here: you're acknowledging the deception.
>It is the end of civilization. It's not the end of civilization, that's a bit hyperbolic. It's just a momentary fad that's causing a bit of disruption. Within a few years or a couple of decades at worst, it will find a stable outcome one way or another and it'll be a non-issue. There'll be other social fads that will be the flavour (and controversy) of the day
Camden Diaz
If, by republican, you mean someone who believes in scientific fact over precious feelings, then I guess you are right.
But, I am actually a moderate who has a good idea of what would be considered a mental illness versus someone who is not mentally ill.
Jaxon Diaz
show your hairy nipples or gtfo
Connor Taylor
>responds to obvious bait >still gets dubs You're a double faggot
William Gray
Yeah okay... It's a *symptom* of the end of civilization. Post op attached. I'd be grossed out at this point.
I can’t wait until I heal and can have all those tasty black dicks inside me teehee ;) You should see how many hot black studs have been sliding into my DMs lately teehee
Dubs on you as well. Does this make you a triple faggot?
Julian Harris
It's not my cup of tea, but if someone wants to do that to themselves, whatever. If it helps them avoid suicide, whatever. Their body, they can do what they want to it. Civilization will go on, while the location of the "peak" of civilization moves around, civilization as such has been pretty continuously developing since we invented it.
Luke Sullivan
nice copypasta, its funny how people still get a rise from this shit. Probably why you do it, eh?
Kek you got dubs on calling out dubs on a dubs faggot. That’s makes you a dub dub faggot. Kek you are ghey as fuck.
Jaxson Bailey
Geez that’s a bit off
Adrian Murphy
This might be why we have a limited lifespan. We grow up used to one type of society, and as it evolves and becomes more foreign to us, we accept that it's time to check out.
Your rhetoric won't work here. Transwomen are men. Pigs in wigs? Gender dysphoria is untreated mental illness. Using hormones to treat gender dysphoria, is like using LSD to treat schizophrenia and we know how well thy went.
Thomas Ortiz
It's a post op tranny, you idiot. You know... what the entire thread is about?
Liam Martin
God damn you are stupid.
The statement that was made means that not only is the fucking shemale not passable in the face, they are not passable in a vagoo. Fucking ugly upstairs, fucking ugly downstairs.
Gavin Ward
Constant tumultuous societal changes are a very recent phenomenon from a biological standpoint. It is idiotic to think that organisms have a limited lifespan because of a facet of human civilization. Then again, it is also idiotic to think that people see you as a woman when you carve a hole in your crotch.
Ryder Cox
Seen this exact thread a week ago. Like 99% sure now it's bait.
Lucas Perez
Honestly, I am not sure if being a transgender is an illness or not. You are what you are and technically I have no problem with that. It's kind of funny, because I used to HATE transgenders because I saw them as freaks. Then one day I saw a porn add or this gorgeous woman so I clicked on it and it turns out she was a shemale. Bruna Butterfly changed the way I look at shemales granted I still have a problem with women trying to become men.
Hell, some beautiful shemales won me over. Still, even though I respect you as a person I still don't like how many transgenders force themselves on other people. It's almost like some transgenders want to force their lifestyle on us somewhat and I will never be ok with that. You can call me a hypocrite if you want, but as long as you do what is right for you and not push your lifestyle on others then I have no problem with you.
Brayden Barnes
you will never be a woman, just a mutilated man delusional that they pass
Gender dysphoria was manufactured as part of the big plan to engineer a sustainable future as laid forth on the georgia guidestones. The operative determinant for milieu induced mental illness is the complaint of some distress which often results in the inability for the subject to function. Over the past 30-40 years, masculinity has basically undergone a miserable train of objectification to intolerable traits such as that of violence, ugliness and creepiness; objectification to criminal identities such as that of pedophiles and incels. It is not surprising for men to acquire this gender dysphoria, and for those affected with gender dysphoria, to see only their own situation and fail to examine the environment in which their condition emerged.
The sphere of mental health is broad and varied. A separate class of mental illness is based on delusion. As the scope of intentional manipulations intended to engineer society deepens and broadens, the affected populations naturally become more and more deluded. More and more mentally ill. By about now who really is alltogether sound of mind anymore? So what if i'm a schizo. None of you are any better.
It's not some grand conspiracy. It's the natural outcome of a generation and a half being told that eveything they do is great, no matter what, and that everyone else is great too. So they invented their own "special" and started making up their own in-group and out-group rules. Thanks to the success of the gay/lesbian equality movement, and the "cool" factor that got associated with them as a result, that was where they attached the specialness to and ran with that. Hence, queer, trans, etc are fashions for many, rather than an unusual and rare circumstance needing care to address.
Easton Bell
Perhaps the conspiracy talk is just an abstraction technique to limit scope while presenting the intended concept.
Cooper Ramirez
>Perhaps the conspiracy talk is just an abstraction technique to limit scope while presenting the intended concept. Fair :)
