How are some guys who never work out stronger than someone who goes to the gym religiously and lifts?!
My friend works as a scaffold builder, but never works out. Ok, a sort of heavy labor, but he never works out, has not definition on his arms, all flabby like.
I have been working out for the last 8 years, I got way bigger arms but he is still stronger than me.
How? And why?
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Muscle does not equal strength, OP.
Scaffold is heavy labour. Especially if you're on the lower contracts. Your friend is working out all day 4 days a week. Not on specific muscles. But he's good at hoisting weight. He's good at keeping his stamina.
Don't take it hard, my man. Muscle has always been more flashy than practical.
are you really this stupid?
Definition doesn't equate to strenght. Lift heavier fewer reps, not light many reps. Basic shit dude. Also scaffolders are not normal. I've seen tiny 140 lbs polish dudes throw 200 pounds of steel on their shoulder like an umbrella
Functional strength
It's gonna grow. Also losing appetite.
Not for a half year.
Core > limb
no you haven't because that isn't possible in reality. or you have no idea what is an umbrella let alone 200 pounds of steel.
maybe you just weak white boi
Just look at strongman competitors/winners. There's a reason they don't have beach bodies. Body builders look jacked and strong, but real strength ain't that pretty.
Testosterone.
Lifting more than you weigh isn't possible? Are you dense? Fair enough, an umbrella is a bit out there, but regardless they handled like it nothing. I know because they only loaded it, and when I unloaded it i felt the weight of the shit.
You can lift more than your weight.
It's not like pushing, where you can only push your weight (assuming no frictional advantage)
Power lifter here
Some people are genetically stronger than others through a combination of bone strength, diet, testosterone levels and more
That, and the fact that some people do labour intense jobs which is essentially weight lifting all day
None of these things matter after a certain level of strength (a few plates in the gym, for example) but it can easily put someone who's never been in a gym ahead of someone who's been there for 6 months to a year without adapting their routine and adding a ton of strength (which most people fail to be good at for at least a year in the gym)
It's also why gymnasts tend to be stronger pound for pound than most low to mid level bodybuilders and gym-goers
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>Muscle does not equal strength, OP.
False. Muscle in literally a symptom of strength
You can look bigger than your strength by focusing more on hypertrophy (8-13+ or mid range reps) but you're still literally building muscle
>Being this dense
Did going to the gym everyday for 8 years make you retarded? or you did you go to the gym every day for 8 years because you're retarded?
This is certainly possible. When I was a scaffolder I was about 70kg and could carry 5 planks(total 90-100kg) on my shoulder and 1(18-20kg) in my other hand. My boss could carry 7 on his shoulder.
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Add to this the frame of said friend? You could be a tiny fueled mini Arnold Schwarzenegger and your friend a giant lardass. Him being stronger then you would still make a lot of sense.
I used to be kind of okay at arm wrestling. Not like a super stud or anything, but okay. I'm about 190 lbs and not fat. One night, I beat this kid in pool for five bucks, and he got funny about the rules. Not mad, just talking shit. He was about 140 and tall enough for me to kiss him on the forehead. I said okay, lets play again, double or nothing. He said no, he had to go soon.. Lets arm wrestle! I was like, okay, knowing I was pretty good at it. We sat at a table, gripped, and he threw me right out of my chair. I could not believe how strong this little fuck was. We settled the money, and I challenged him to one more, for another five bucks. Now ready, we gripped again, he looked me right in the eyes, I put my shoulder into it hard, and he slowly put me right down. Some people are just naturally hard.
>Leverage
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I'm not sure what a plank is in your terminology.
But at 45lbs each, you're lying about something.
A 4x8 sheet of 3/4 OSB is 80lbs dude.
It's not something you could carry on your shoulder, let alone carry 5 of them on your shoulder.
Also carrying weight on your shoulder isn't an issue of weight, it's an issue of pain. Putting much more than ~40lbs on your traps is agonizing.
You weren't carrying 220lbs of shit around. You're not going to fool me, I work in construction. When setting up or tearing down you pace yourself. Could I carry 2 80lb backs of topping compound at once? Yeah, though not all that far and it would wear me too quickly and I wouldn't get anything done if I tried to work at that pace.
You're probably not lyring about carrying 5 "planks" at once. When I'm unloading lumber I tend to carry 3-4 2x4's at once, and 2-3 2x6's at once, because that's the comfortable load on your shoulder, it just depends on how wet the wood is.
I can physically carry more, but it's too painful and will wear you out too quickly.
>comfortable
>painful
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Come on bud, show us your 45lb plank.
I'd love to see the man carrying 315lbs at a time working 8 hours a day 5 days a week.
I deadlifted more than that after like 8 months in the gym and I was a weak piece of shit. He's not even lifting it in his blurb, calf pressing it at most.
You sound butthurt that someone is stronger than you and your autism is kinda cringe son
Some people are stronger naturally OP, from genetics and dense muscle. Gym lifters are pumped up creatine water muscle. I have a junk hauling business. Some days I move 10,000 pounds around in an 8 hour window. You can go to the gym all you want but you'll never have the strength and stamina I have, nor the stench from being covered in garbage
Yeah, you dead lift more than 315lbs a handful of times at the gym. Sweet dude. Now throw 315lbs over your shoulder, walk 1/8th mile, and safely unload it without breaking anything for 8 hours a day 5 days a week.
It's not going to happen man. I'm well aware of how strong some people are, but I'm also well aware of the difference between power and endurance. Strong men competitors would have a heart attack trying to do that shit for one day.
How much lean muscle mass you have is a very strong indicator of your potential to exert force, but:
1) exerting maximal force (i.e. using all the mucle you have, even if you have more) is also a skill in itself that requires both training (for things like CNS adaptation) and practice (for shit like how your form changes as the weight is heavier as
2) The diameter of your arms is not always a good indicator of your actual lean muscle mass. (for example, people who eats a lot of carbs can have the same msucle mass, but it will look bigger because of water content)
3) Getting very heavy weights to move is often a fucntion of 'explosiveness' which isn't just a measure of strength, but your ability to use it all at once, at speed. This is based a lot on genetics, and the makeup of your muscles. It's *really* hard to train, which is why sports franchises like the NFL uses it (through proxies like estimated vs actual standing vertical jump) to judge the raw atheltic potential of rookies.
4) Overall size and weight plays a huge, huge factor. If I'm 5'4'' I can train for years, my 6'5'' friend is basically always gonna be stronger than me in absolute terms - because they have more muscle mass in absolute terms, even if they train less.
After barely any training, yes. I calf press up to 400kg now for at least 5x8 and I'm not one of the strongest guys in my gym
Also for what it's worth most people farmers walk way more than 100kg for far longer than 1/8th of a mile after no time at all
None of that affects what he claimed to lift which, as I'm trying to illustrate, isn't significant in the slightest and the fact that you're being autistic, whiny and illogical instead of reasonable is incredibly sad
I'm not sure who hurt you but I'm sorry you're hurt
Well a couple things here while weights are all well and good they are a focused formed of exercise were your homie is simply working hitting multiple zones at once in a very practical way these different methods of building up the body will have different effects and second leverage...even if your homie at the biggest or strongest it's a manual labor job and there a smart ways to work my man and you always work smarter not harder
This. Im a big irish guy, but i dont look like much at first glance. I have a belly, but my abs are rock hard underneath. I work at a pub and i can throw around a double flat-top grill like a ragdoll.
I spar on occasion and my side kick is a 1-hit KO on most of the beaners around these parts.
Ok so I'm 6'6 311lb I work apartment maintenance I every few years have to replace the rotted rail road ties (a single one weights roughly 400lb) I single handedly remove and replace all of them on property (roughly 55-60) and I'm far from a strong man just your slightly more avg Texan
you're trying to compare isolate controlled lifts in tiny repetitions to real world strength and it's stupid.
Also 2 string bales weigh ~60lbs (The type of hay bale people actually move around)
3 string bales are ~110lbs.
Farmers aren't moving around shit that weighs 220lbs with any frequency, and they're sure as shit not walking 1/8th mile with it.
Farmers do throw around 2 string bales pretty far and accurately all things considered.
No farmer, who is apparently your go to standard for "strength" is going to be carrying around over 300lbs of planks on his shoulder as he unloads to set up scaffolding all over the city.
For one, no rail road ties weigh 200lbs.
For another, they don't rot out every few years. They're in place for decades on end. Most ties consumers get have already been used for 10+ years and end up staying in their landscape for over 40 years.
And if your building is operating even slightly within regulation (If they've got full time maintenance they're going to be required to) you're going to need two men to be moving those anyway.
Also tell me more about the 6'6 331lbs average Texan.
The other day I went to get into my car and I was like LOL< I'm still carrying a railroad tie. I threw it over the fence and it knocked over my neighbors garage. He's a dick so idc.
They were steel galvanised planks. I was told they were 18-20kg each but maybe they were less.
My first couple of weeks into the job my traps were cut and had scabs on them. But after a while they become so tough and numb that it would be my party trick to let my friends punch me as hard as they could in the should/trap and I would never feel a thing.
I only ever carried 5 planks a few times. Throughout the day I would alternate between 3 or 4 on the shoulder and always carry one in left hand.
When I was five, my best friends dad put up a tie wall. Actual creosote ties, not that landscaping shit. That was 40 years ago, and it's still like the day it was built. I drive past it every day.
You are obviously dump as fuck are you from new jersey?
You have been cutting for 8 years to look good poser. Try training for strength instead and stop being a faggot.
He's doing it to survive. You can stop any time you want. He's accustomed to the pain and strain.
I learned this in factory work. Building muscle and stamina is actually exercising your pain tolerance, and how much you can withstand. Push it a little farther every few days to a week, however fast you recover. The danger becomes that you won't know how close you are to breaking something in your body. It happened to me.
Mostly, it's the will and determination to survive it and get up and do it again the next day.
>no you haven't because that isn't possible in reality
>*Eddy hall blocks your path.
>Day in day out 10 hours of labour lifting hot and heavy shit in the sun all year
>3 X 1 hour routines in air cooled perfect conditions environment taking breaks every 5 minutes telling everyone else how strong you are
just a summary op
True, i worked in construction and i could walk up and down stairs with bags of cement all day and not break a sweat and easily carried two huge planks on my shoulder. Then i started going to the gym and hurt my back in the leg press machine
size != strength
You do build up strength in the process of building size, true, but there are other factors. Most gym exercises are targeted exercises meant to work out specific muscle groups. Bench presses, for example, don't do a lot for your core muscles, only your arms and pecs. Moving something heavy around in non-repetitive motions will strengthen more muscle groups than any single exercise. Mixing up your routines can overcome this, of course.
Secondly, building muscle and losing fat are two completely different things. You can be flabby and still have muscle under that fat. In fact, fat people (assuming they're somewhat active) tend to have stronger core and leg muscles than skinny people specifically because their muscles are used to moving more weight around.
because you've been working out for looks while the bear man has real strength
Ok you’re right. Just had a look and they weigh 14.1kg(31lbs) each.
So I carried 155lbs a few times, but throughout the day would carry between 90-125 lbs on my shoulder.
My boss could carry 7(200+lbs - he only did this a couple of times to show off) and he weighed about 165lbs so my original point is still valid.
He earned his muscles with a real mans work and didn't sit in a cozy gym playing with children's toys just so he could jerk off in front of a mirror.
(OP)
I am 6-2 was about 280 back when I threw boxes at UPS for 9 years, from age 19-28. Throw boxes for 4+ hours a night after working in the tobacco fields most of the day during the summer doesn't give you a gym bod, it wears your body down to the bare minimum. I was one of the fastest sorters and typically got the heavier loads, usually thrown at me by a 40 year old black guy who was built leaner than I was. Nobody else wanted to sort him when he unloaded so I got him every night. Size doesn't necessarily equal strength. There was a scrawny string bean of a guy that also grew up on a farm that weighed maybe 150 that could sort dead even with me, even in the heavy trailers. You don't get that kind of strength and endurance from going to a gym.
Yeah, that's more believable.
Still difficult shit.
Slugging 80lb bags of concrete isn't fun, doing a little over that with things that are sharper is certainly less so.
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Sometimes it's just genetics and the way you're built. Like these barrel chested guys with no necks and huge heads just made for taking a punch. I got what I call gamers wrists...small thin wrists like a girl..long neck..only thing I got is a big thick skull that can take a good hit.
Last time I was in jail, I was celled with this little black guy who looked like Sugar Ray Leonard. He was about 60 and absolutely shredded. He was a concrete laborer and spent much of his life pushing wheelbarrows of concrete across planks. That little fucker could slam out like a thousand push-ups, over an afternoon.
You're just plain inferior
It’s called genetics user.
I started lifting again after a 20 year break.
When I was in 8th grade I could bench 200 and squat 300 never lifted before.
In my 20’s I could bench 450 and squat 600.
Now as an old man(46) I can squat 225 for 10 reps. And bench 225 for 4 reps.
It’s genetics user
because no one has ever pushed a car...