Hey, I needed to make a thread for arguing about bestiality since the last one got possibly diverted somewhere it didn't belong after it died. Don't do that again, faggots. Posting porn in this thread is optional. Anyways, here's my take:
There is, all harm factors accounted for, nothing special about sex that it should have special norms about human-cultural maturity compared to other activities like playing fetch or going for a walk together on a leash. Some pointy-nippled alien majority far away who would have safe sex with their pets and think walking together is a sacred act would be gnashing their teeth at the thought that the spiral-nippled minority people were walking these pets when those pets might choose otherwise if they had pointy-nippled culture because they think only decisions made by people with pointy-nippled sensitivities can be valid and sufficiently-informed, and it would be analogous to our Earth situation.
My dog is sexy and keeps trying to fuck me. I'm legit going to just go for it next time. I'm done holding off, that picture just pushed me over the edge.
Luis Long
stay outta trouble buddy, and remember the wise words of
Definitely, it'll be consensual and safe as fuck. I'mma go get me some doggie diq, bye faggots.
Connor Morris
welcome to Cred Forums
Evan Gonzalez
This pisses me off, I got permabanned from this fucking site from discussing this shit and here you are posting pics
Christian Edwards
2D is fine, I've never been banned for posting 2D beast stuff
Josiah Perry
Take that, degenerate.
Evan Collins
feral threads have been a thing for a long time
Wyatt Collins
thats fucking disgusting. having sex with your pets is like having sex with your own kids, or kids in general for that matter. go fuck something your own age and intelligence level you pedophile
Eli Flores
You have no argument but name-calling. You don't intend for me to take your argument seriously, of course.
Jaxon Sanders
>because dogs and kids are totally the same thing
Christian Thomas
if you degenerates want to have sex with animals go get raped by a horse or idk elefant dick
What if i want to watch a cute girl have sex with an animal?
Hunter Hernandez
OR, a cute boy have sex with an animal
Dylan Garcia
you will burn on a cross, degenerate kike
Nicholas Peterson
they kind of are. both kids and pets are things you are responsible for and provide for, and it is also your duty to give them attention and affection. youre just dirty incels who abuse the weakness and powerlessness of lesser beings who youre supposed to care for in order to "have secks" lmao gtfo
I don't care about having sex with children or animals myself, but if they should want to, and if there is no harm or coercion, then it should be tolerated. Pretty fucked up that I think safe consensual sex should be tolerated, right?
Sexual interactions between adults and children affects the children in negative and profound ways, ways that don't apply to dogs. Because the children are still developing and the dogs are sexually mature. There's a really gaping flaw with that comparison. Just because they have similar levels in intelligence doesn't mean they're exactly the same, or that they're affected similarly by the same stimuli.
Jaxson James
why dont you suck some regular human cock, you fucking zoophiles
>Sexual interactions between adults and children affects the children in negative and profound ways I don't think that's true. If people act like sex is this evil scary thing that hurts you for life, kids will believe it. There's actually much more manipulation on the anti-pedophile side in this respect; they convince children that they have to feel bad about sex, which makes them feel traumatized. When I was a kid I would have tried to fuck a conventionally attractive woman if I didn't know that I would face negative social consequences for it.
MAPs are a fucking joke tbh; no one is going to accept for five minutes that your rewording gives you any legitimacy. Nuh-uh. Sorry, you're in it for the long-haul of defending pedophilia whether you like it or not; few will be willing to imagine either way that you're not threatening. Trying to change the label people give you is just going to make you look more suspicious. Just get real already and explain why people have the wrong idea about pedophiles.
Logan Allen
you're seriously equating your imagination of far away aliens with having sex with animals here on earth, because in your imagination sticking your dick into an animal could be seen as the same as walking next to it?
On a side note: are you a democrat?
Jonathan Wood
people has right idea about pedophiles - and pedos should be publicly castrated and executed. no degeneracy shall be tolerated.
whether you are right about that or not, you missed my point. im not talking about whether it is harmful to the pet/child, what i am saying is that it is a purely degenerate and loser act to abuse your power over lesser beings to have sex with them, which is admittedly an opinion and not an argument. by the way, im just curious, what is it that causes humans like yourselves to develop sexual attraction to animals? just doesnt make any sense
There's nothing special about sex such that we should have special rules for it from any other dangerous playful activity whose risks can be accounted for. Your sense that sex should have special rules, compared to playing baseball, which can literally physically injure you for life, has no basis besides your personal disgust; it's something taken for granted which isn't necessary or universal.
Also, I don't define my ethics according to party politics, sorry. And I'm not an American.
>im not talking about whether it is harmful to the pet/child, what i am saying is that it is a purely degenerate and loser act to abuse your power over lesser beings to have sex with them, which is admittedly an opinion and not an argument. What's wrong with it being degenerate, or for losers? What makes it abuse if there's no harm and it's consensual?
1.) there are ways to counter the imbalance of power between people and animals. 2.) IDK, it just happens. sexuality is random. what causes homosexuality? nobody knows.
Brandon Ortiz
your 2 IQ brain won't understand i see >whats wrong with it being degenerate DEGENERATE = BAD understand? fucking caveman
Christopher Murphy
Here, I can do it too: DEGENERATE = GOOD understand? fucking caveman
Aww yeah, a Cred Forums warrior defending this holy grail of a website against the degeneracy. Thank you for your sacrifice of being the stupid part in this argument, even tho your oppinion is actually way easier to defend.
Jeremiah Smith
nah dude majority of the worlds population doesnt want to fuck dogs or sheep except sandniggers and retarded incels
I don't want to have sex with animals personally; I just want to let people have sex with animals if it's safe and consensual.
I think it's a matter of taste, actually. Degeneracy can be good to people; some people like stuff that's gross and subversive. That's how I define degeneracy at least; sexual tastes that are gross and/or subversive. Can you come up with counter-examples?
Christopher Wood
yeah, alternatives or counter examples are either cross or burning stake *dabs*
also animals cant fucking consent - they are following their instincts, not thinking rationally as humans do. but from what i see, some people in this thread doesnt think either kek
and folowing your instincts isnt always good thing to do
Parker Baker
it is abuse because you are having sex with a lesser being which has lower intelligence than you, therefore making it easy for you to trick and manipulate that lesser being into having sex. its simple, you just cant have sex with people on your own level, so you need to take advantage of lesser beings' immaturity to have intercourse. it may not be rape, but its still abuse of that lesser being's ignorance. this is peek degeneracy. you can be a degenarate if you want, nobody is stopping you. doesnt mean that you wont get flamed for it online though.
I didn't state my oppinion to this topic even, just wanted you to know that you suck at arguing. Just saying "you're wrong!" all over this threat, won't convince anyone here. At least the degenerates know their points, because I bet they dealed with their desires in contrast to the morality for way longer, then your stupid ass just showing up at the scene spamming "Me not likey UwU" gtfo or contribute
Michael Thompson
underage spotted, get outta here faggot
John Clark
>also animals cant fucking consent Yes they can. They communicate via a series of extremely obvious and unmistakable gestures and bodily cues. They can't use English words, sure, but they can absolutely communicate what they want, and they do it very effectively. >they are following their instincts So? People always say this like it's a bad thing.
Asher Turner
yeah nah faggot force me ur mom nah they cant consent, jesus christ u so dumb
it's like your shitposting abilities worsen with every post. I already miss the guy who would write paragraphs at a time, at least he would try
Liam Anderson
You know, all these hitler memes and your lack of arguments would probably be really persuasive to good, thinking people who like human values like freedom, love, and justice
>also animals cant fucking consent - they are following their instincts, not thinking rationally as humans do. but from what i see, some people in this thread doesnt think either kek >and folowing your instincts isnt always good thing to do Agreed, but I wouldn't ban people from having safe consensual sex according to a personal definition of rationality, and I see no reason to have a different standard for animals. You don't need to think rationally to consent; few people who have sex really do.
>it is abuse because you are having sex with a lesser being which has lower intelligence than you, therefore making it easy for you to trick and manipulate that lesser being into having sex. If they want to fuck, they know all the risks, and they take all the safety precautions, how is it abuse if they have sex with something more intelligent? Does it matter at that point?
Benjamin Parker
>nothing special about sex
You’ve obviously never had it, then.
/thread.
Lucas Lewis
The fact that you keep replying to my lowest tier troll and shitpost means successfull troll.
What are you fucking 12 yo? Dont you know to not feed trolls? >being this dumb
you are not worth of any bigger effort than this, degenerate
>The fact that you keep replying to my lowest tier troll and shitpost means successfull troll. What else is there to do? Sit around on this forum and not talk? You're standing in the middle of a room wearing the brightest colored outfit that says, "GIVE ME ATTENTION" and expecting no one to acknowledge that.
Carson Butler
Well, it felt good, I'll say that much, but that doesn't give it special ethics anymore than playing baseball does.
Oh, you're trolling me? Your arguments sounded like those of a serious person occasionally. Yeah, look, even if you let yourself do things for the sake of trolling, that doesn't mean everything you say is completely unserious; I'm willing to entertain that you flip-flop between trolling and being serious.
>one line each >tl;dr Okayyyy, so I guess you just can't get through a sentence that challenges your initial opinions.
Elijah Thomas
idk try to do sth else, for example try to not convince ppl that zoophilia is normal cuz it isnt or find yourself some other hobby
Josiah Smith
No one said it's normal. It's acceptable though.
Nicholas Thompson
maybe sometimes troll, maybe not, still you shoud end up on a burning stake and yeah sorry im illiterate, i cant read
Luke Perry
So imo this topic is actually not as easy, as the kid tries it to look like. I think that it ist indeed not wrong for the animal, as long as no physical harm is performed to the animal or it is fucked against their will. Luring the animal is in that case okay as well, because as many people in this threat already stated; animals don't evolve into something with a moral compas, which is a difference to children (sry pedofag). However we as humans actually have this or at least should have this moral compas which differentiates us from animals and makes us to superior beings. When now a human acts against this moral compas and gets in touch with a lesser being it is indeed degenerated and should be seen by society as such. Because we as a society should still aim to follow this moral compas, so we can continue not to devolve into animals again. So should it be illegal? imo no, but it should be looked upon the same way as other fetishes like people drinking Piss or smthng. If you wanna degrade yourself, it should be in your decision to do so.
Jayden Cruz
no it's not acceptable
Kevin Reed
>or find yourself some other hobby literally stop using this website because one guy posted Hitler memes. genius
Owen Hughes
yeh it is
Aaron Cooper
yeah go do that pls one faggot on Cred Forums less
Jose Foster
nah its not
Ethan Phillips
No thanks
Charles Wright
yes
Noah Bell
noooo
Jace Morgan
ye
Noah Rodriguez
nu
Jacob Allen
Y
Anthony Thompson
n xD
Kevin Turner
alright, fine, you win. I'm gonna go fuck my dog now, later nerd
Dominic Hill
see ya on a cross, degenerate!
Ethan Watson
Just kiss already
Eli Wood
lmao actually ok but he has to wash his mouth after sucking his dogs dick
Blake Rogers
I don't think people have moral compasses which tell them that pedophilia is wrong; they have a gut reaction. Incidentally having sex with children may be gross and subversive, aka degenerate, but that doesn't make it uncompassionate. If a kid wants to fuck, they know the risks, and they take the safety precautions, it's not mean to fuck them, and doing gross things with someone that they like to do isn't mean either. I understand they could be taken advantage of due to strength differences, but that has nothing to do with the morality of the fucking in itself, and also, you'll note that it's not illegal for strong people in general to fuck scrawny people, and I think it would be more harm than good if you did make it illegal.
David Fisher
+1
Justin Williams
>if they want to fuck, they know all the risks, and take all the safety precautions
big IF right there, because fact is, you can easily pressure and/or manipulate lesser beings into having "consensual" sex with you regardless of whether they want to or not. remember, you are not only smarter than them, but you also hold POWER over them. but for the sake of argument, lets say they are the ones who want to fuck you and not the other way around, even if they did know the risks, you think they would care? the whole validity of your argument relies on the premise that the lesser beings would care enough about risks to take precautions, and we both know that isnt true most of the time. so in that case, you are still abusing their immaturity and ignorance by allowing them to fuck you. this is like giving a 12 year old child a pack of cigarettes and justifying it by saying he knows the risks of smoking so its ok, clearly he is not smart or mature enough to truly understand what he is doing, but you still let him indulge anyway. this is a form of abuse on its own.
Benjamin Barnes
You're going to have more luck if you set up an argument map with a program like Argunet/Mindmup/Rational
Noah Morales
New to the convo. I would posit this: What's so bad about following instincts? We've been doing it for literal millenia, why stop now? We're no different from animals, we just have bigger brains. We've taken advantage of children, raped women, tortured people, murdered, etc. All of that, it's a part of every single one of us. You can try to distance yourself from that fact all you want but the truth is, humanity is just as degenerate as animals, possibly even more so. So, why the hell not give in to instinct once in a while if that's what you want to do?
Wyatt Jones
Animals do all the same horrible things we do, except maybe commit genocide. That's pretty much something exclusive to humans. Which is why I say humans are even more degenerate than animals. It's because we're of "higher intelligence" that we're capable of such terrible acts.
Asher Barnes
stop it already faggots, leave these poor animals alone
Daniel Wright
>even if they did know the risks, you think they would care? the whole validity of your argument relies on the premise that the lesser beings would care enough about risks to take precautions, and your argument relies on the premise that they are lesser because they are younger, but in reality, young people vary in competence and prudence.
>and we both know that isnt true most of the time. ah, yes, see, "most of the time;" I hadn't read the whole sentence before typing that out; my bad. But listen, I don't think we should let all children have sex with adults. I just think that a sufficiently determined child should be facilitated to prove their prudence and competence to fuck an adult if they so desire, and then they shouldn't be penalized for having sex with an adult.
Hudson Young
>this is like giving a 12 year old child a pack of cigarettes and justifying it by saying he knows the risks of smoking so its ok, clearly he is not smart or mature enough to truly understand what he is doing, but you still let him indulge anyway. this is a form of abuse on its own. Besides disease and the judgment of other people, what would the risks be anyways? You might regret it? If you're just in it for sex, I doubt you would. On the other hand, adults regret fucking pretty much everyone they fall deeply in love with, so why wouldn't you prevent adults from having sex with people *they* love on that basis? Adults typically do not feel that it was better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all. Clearly the average adult does not themselves understand the risks of having sex with each other, if we consider this factor.
I say, if our culture made an effort to appreciate having loved at all, both the children and adults might understand the risks for once. So tell you what: maybe children shouldn't, but maybe adults shouldn't as well. If we want to be totally fair, we should account for people's understanding of these specific risks; tell me if you know any more, and perhaps adults will have failed on average to consider those as well.
I think people's instincts are informed by their culture and ideals. There is a kind of ideal I'd like people to follow where you try to reduce all of the costs of your policies to nothing, and you try to increase the benefits of your policies to include every benefit of every policy, and when it seems you cannot, you open yourself to suggestions on how you might; you admit that you're not perfect, and you welcome others to pull you closer to perfection. If people let that ideal inform their instincts, we would not have all those atrocities you speak of.
Lincoln Roberts
This is tough. It seems reasonable, to me, for people to generalize that animals can't consent. But how do you apply that logic to a male animal having sex with a female human? Particularly in the cases where the animal is in control? If a dog, for example, is aroused and a woman gets down on the floor and allows the dog to mount her, has she abused the dog? It seems in this case she would simply have allowed the dog to use her body to satisfy his urges.