The only people voting for Bernie Sanders are lazy low income losers who want free stuff no matter what it does to the...

what's your point, you're here too

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TFW when you watch so much Breitbart you start to think you're people.

Too bad you're a workaholic maniac, as much as MOST amerilards are, in spite of what you believe. I also know you're larping in the first place, but nobody gives a fuck about you in the whole universe, and MOST people in the world just wanna sit on the couch smoking because they can't bare standing close to people like you. I'm exactly one of them.

Face it scumbag, it's going to be over soon. The rich are a mistake, and we're going to EAT YOU ALIVE.
Keep waking up at 6 and neglecting your own happiness, you and the likes of you perfectly describe how pointless life is in the first place.

You let corporations steal your soul, and now you reason on a different plane from most normal people. You don't ask yourself what's inside the next human being. You ask yourself how much he/she makes and more importantly if he/she makes more than you make you get instamad. You're a zombie. You are like chinese people or jews. A soul-deprived walking corpse.

And we're the cure, sanitation and crispy fire that will make your life even more miserable.

Your current taxes THAT YOU ALREADY FUCKING PAY will be redirected to healthcare, education and public works. They will be taken Away from wasteful spending and corporate welfare.

You fucking dolt

Look, I support the Americans in that: The coronavirus is a joke and now the european health centers will collapse from old people and hypochondriacs. On the other hand the business of diabetes and insulin in the US...

Communism works elsewhere time to bring communism to america

idiot...

>you're wrong
>proceeds to not give a reason
You sure owned him epicly

Coronavirus is NOTHING, you absolute dipshit. It's a dangerous influenza. Stop spreading FOX lies on the internet, don't you have enough of this? Europe is containing damage and doing fine. All death cases are >80 who would have normally died from any flu.
You're pathetic. Hope you catch the flu, and panic so much an heart attack stops your heart of a fatso forever.

I know, i want bernie to win just so tje housing market will crash and i can buy a mini mansion with bitcoin

>death cases are >80
China just broke 1000 deaths due to the virus

>I work hard to pay for my 4x4 lifted mud truck, why should I have to pay taxes for roads so lazy retards can drive their tiny cars?

>I work hard to dig my own well, why should I have to pay for a public water system just so lazy retards dont die of dehydration?

>I work hard to build my own outhouse why should I pay to build a public sewage system so lazy retards dont have to shit outside?

>I work hard to buy my guns, why should I pay taxes so some lazy retard can join the military and get a free college education?

>I work hard so why should I have to pay for insurance... surely my $150K a year will cover everything... right.

thonk

>The coronavirus is a joke and now the european health centers will collapse from old people and hypochondriacs.
nigga, can you read again?
Asian countries are full of old people and shitty immune systems due to their poor diet

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Who cares about China, do you think they care about their own as EU does? Fool. Chinese people only thinks about money every day, all day.

t. Korean abroad (at this point forever I guess)

The corona virus isnt nothing, so many shit statistics compare the number infected with the number dead... while its in the moment of spreading exponentially. You want a real impression of its danger look at the number of people released as cured vs the number that have died.

People taking the bait hard...

Look it boils down to this. Medicare for all, free college education, taxing our corporate overlords, it all comes down to this basic fact: Bernie will be good for the poor, will be good for the health, vitality and education of the country in the long run, will address the issue that's the elephant in the room; inequality. Capitalism is a great system but it's sort of solved, in a way, and will not re balance itself on it's own because it is now a rigged game.

How well you like that I think tells you a lot about how well you care for your fellow man, care for the poor, care for the good of country versus the good for you personally. Make no mistake, the rich will still be rich, people will still be allowed to succeed in America. Bernie is just trying to right the boat before we tip over.

If you don't empathize with people in your own country, if you don't think it's worth helping people in your own back yard dying because they can't afford healthcare, suffering from opioid addictions and working jobs that have had stagnant wages for 15+ years, then you don't care about what's good for the country you just care about yourself.

Either we're all in this together, or the game is going to continue to become more rigged and income inequality is going to become more and more pronounced over time until we live in a society with no mobility, a world of the super-rich and everyone else as a vassal. If a return to feudalism sounds undesirable to you, that's where we're headed economically unless we change course

Sorry lad, misinterpreted.

I do make $150k+ a year, and I am fat. I'm also married with 2 kids, and they are the only people in this world that I really care about. I also have many guns, but don't have the 4x4. I do have a classic muscle car though that gets about 8 miles per gallon. To go back to my original point though, can someone please tell me why I should have to pay for others when they have not worked as hard as I have? Can someone come up with a good reason for that? The government cannot give something to someone that they have not first taken away from someone else. Explain to me how that is fair.

I do have empathy for people in my country. If the democrats were in favor of kicking out everyone who was here illegally I would be much more in favor helping those less fortunate than me. The problem is that they see immigrants as their future voting base so they will never go down that road. Once people start getting an education and good jobs they tend to vote conservative as it just makes more sense for them.

problem is not its lethality but its spread. If you have it, anyone you touch you pretty much infect. This could be like having the flue and instead of 1 to 5% of the country having the flue like during a bad flue season, 50% of the country having the flue and entire elderly homes having people dying left and right. The economic damage will be a catastrophe.

European socialised healthcare is the last line of defence for the average American losing his job due to quarantine laws. Yea... good fucking luck

So question, just out of curiosity. When you EAT THE RICH who’s going to pay the way for all the freebies you think you’re going to get?

You can’t have it both ways. You don’t get to use rich people to pay for everything while simultaneously bankrupting them lol. Eventually you will run out of other people’s money to spend

Rolling for dub

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Every western country has free healthcare, also even on 150k/year are you saying you can afford cancer treatment or heart surgery if you had to pay up front? American pharmaceutical companies are charging 30k a month for cancer drugs which are produced for 1000x less.

>Trip tho

Wait a sec. I thought you Bernie faggots only wanted to attack the 1%? This guy making 150k doesn’t fall into that category and if he does, so does your magical gray-haired leader but I don’t hear you talking about eating Bernie Sanders. What the fuck is wrong with you?

So we have to subsidize your two kids and you also get a permanent tax break but you can’t pitch in a few dollars to ensure your neighbors also have healthcare? Why do I have to pay for your kids education I didn’t have kids...that’s the same argument

>1000x less

i agree with your point, but thats a bit of an overstatement. 100x less seems far more accurate a number but at some point in the ultimate ripoff scheme who's counting zeroes anyway.

good for them, hope they can get a living wage and healthcare

its just some rando online not even knowing how much his dad or mom makes. Not the actual policy makers

Read a book and learn what communism is you retard

That’s not an answer to my question bitchtits

yeah, but that guy is an ignorant asshole

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Everyone paying for school taxes is VERY different than paying for everyone's healthcare.

As a society, we are not willing to let large numbers of the poor die in the streets from sickness. So we give many of them medical care through emergency rooms, or only after missing the window for preventative care. Covering everyone under a single payer system would cost less. So while taxes would increase, other spending on healthcare would go down even more. I.E. it single payer will cost you less than the insurance system.

The same is true for spending on public education. Uneducated adults cost society more (extra welfare, policing, prisons, etc.) than giving them a good education in the first place.

So unless you are in the < 1% that can have millions, and pay no tax due to loopholes, some social welfare programs actually save you money in the long run.

ITT: Retard socialists who can’t defend the simplest of tenets or explain why their glorious leader is a millionaire

I don't live in the US but I vote slightly left of center even if I'm single and earn slightly more than average.

I don't want to be surrounded by dumb sick people. I want to drive on good roads built and planned without tons of private interests. I want there to be a free economy working within a set of rules made by the state.

I'd be fine with either total libertarianism or communism if this were a perfect world. But it isn't so we need a balance hovering around the center.

Equal opportunity, not equal results. Some people are harder working or sometimes lucky. I don't begrudge someone doing more with the opportunities presented. I do however have a problem that some people never get any opportunities at all.

Except you know, it works in every other country you dumb hunk of shit. /b filled with compulsive basement liars.

Well no shit. Just remember to vote Trump in 2020 to cease this faggotry.

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Trump is going to get re-elected guaranteed if Bernie gets the Democratic nomination. There's not a chance in hell the blue-collar union workers are going to vote for a socialist. Whether they vote for Trump or if they stay home, either way, Bernie loses. It will probably be a landslide.

I'm voting for Bernie and I make more money than you do.

And if 51% of the country are such people who’s fault might this be?

Russian trolls are here. Stay strong this time Cred Forumsros

OP is a paid shill

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Excellent reply.

Too bad Cred Forums is filled with mouth-breathing retards who won’t ever read it, and will continue to defend billionaires while getting pounded hard in the ass by them and the government every day for the rest of their sad, pathetic, diabetes-ridden lives

Velocity of money

Look it up sometime, you stupid faggot

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I’m a Social Darwinist. I earned my money, I keep it. You earn yours or starve in the street. Simple.

fpbp

you know conservatives are scared when their best argument is
>why bernie live in house???

Good thing there are a few billion more to replace them, eh?

Who would you say you "borrow" more of your arguments from, Tucker Carlson or Ben Shapiro?

Spoiler: it's been debunked either way.

Unless the flow of income stops outright, there isn't any reason to assume there will not be rich people anymore. That seems to be one of the most unfounded fears about this whole thing...rich people aren't going to STOP being rich all the sudden.

Curious, do you find anything morally wrong about someone robbing you at gunpoint? If it all comes down to getting money however you possibly can and not giving a shit about your fellow man, isn't that a valid option?

>Doesn't know what communism is either.
You should read a book...period. Doesn't even need to be about politics. Would be super beneficial to your mental development.

Robbing at gunpoint? You mean taxes?

No. Also your meme is queer as fuck. The only thing strong about Trump is the amount of cologne he uses to mask his shitty diaper.

When facing the prospects of massive increases in taxes on income, let alone actual taxes on money you've already been taxed on, the wealthy tend to take their money out of the reaches of government.

Apple had vast money overseas, out of the reach of the IRS. President Trump offered them and companies like them to repatriate the money at a lower tax rate. Wow, look. the money came back. Not only was there new tax revenue, but the money was now circulating in the American economy, benefiting everyone.

You're retarded. Rich people can move themselves and their assets.

Rich people having money isnt bad for you. You dont have a right to do the things you and bernard want to do. Read the constitution or move to Europe.

We live in a era with 3% real unemployment, companies offering paid training, and HR overlooking bad resumes to get new hires because people aren't showing for interviews.

If you can't make it now I guess you do need NEETbux.

OP didn't give a reason either so your argument is invalid

>earned
you mean socialist laws forced a benovelent job creator to pay you a wage for your labor, letting you stick his hand right in his pocket. Tell me, why should anyone be forced to pay you a wage? It's not like your job is difficult, you weren't chosen by god to be wealthy, and you certainly aren't producing anything other than labor if you require a wage in the first place. It's fucking sick how far this country has fallen. Slavery worked just fine for centuries and peasents like you used to know your place

>He got caught parroting a political pundit and he's MAAAAD.

went from making $8/hr in 2015 to $29.55/hr in the span of 5 years. If you aren't retarded you can also work your way to a better wage

No, I meant literal robbing at gunpoint. But, if your ideal society is people doing whatever they can to make money regardless of what happens to others, shouldn't government officials do everything in their power to tax you until you starve?

wages are socialism you retarded cuck. You think Lords used to have to pay their peasants wages?

These are no longer random, Cred Forums is the other way.

Look up social Darwinism idiot. The world owes nobody a living simply because they are human. I don’t earn wages, I pay them.

Work on making a genuine argument.

A tax isn't making money.

>Rich people having money isnt bad for you.

It is if they suck up and lock up assets and wealth in our economy, like they do. If you have 5 bucks on an island and everyone else has 5 bucks you are just as rich, if you have 5 bucks and everyone else has 5000 but is saving it or investing it in anything but you, then you are fucked. Extreme example to get the point across

Rich people moving abroad due to tax running is pretty bad, but over time rich people accumulating high percentages of GDP wealth without reinvesting in anything other then accumulating more wealth is even worse. If we would tax wealth runs with lets say 33%, a very reasonable percentage it would negate all the negative effects and let people live where they want yet still have enough liquidity in our society. Then we tax wealth to pay for the systems that give poor and middle class people a reasonable shot at becoming wealthy themselves. Healthcare, wealth redistribution, safety nets and tax reduction for small entrepreneurship, ect.

you're clearly a retarded teenager so you should probably go jerk off.

and you're just okay with being forced to pay people for their labor? what kind of cuck are you?

It's a way of acquiring money. And in your ideal social Darwinist society whoever acquires money the best wins and everyone else loses. You can't have it both ways.

typical leftist, can't argue with facts or logic so you just resort to insults.

The fact is, unless there's massive taxation on wealth, that money is invested across the economy. In stocks, bonds, and other investments. It is a fallacy of the left that the wealthy are fat cats counting bags of gold in a cigar smoke-filled room.

Warren 2020

lol what? I lean conservative. What does this post even mean??

cope harder

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No, I’m not. If I had my way I would offer a wage for a task I want completed. If the offered is not satisfactory, go somewhere else for employment.

we do so much for these fucking disgraceful peasants and they still want a wage too? it's fujcking sick how victimized the wealthy are.

Do you think before the socialist invention of "rights" and "wages" we had to pay peasants for their labor?

Yeah, only the left does that.

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yeah, you're a cuck. Why should a lord have to pay his peasants wages?

Your mother’s husband is a cuck. In a sense they did stupid. They provided food and housing.

Thwy literally donate trillions of our tax dollars directly into private corporations

The only people voting for Bernie are trump supporters?

Nope. They are already getting free shit.

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Where do you think the money from investments like stocks and bonds goes? It goes to businesses that employ people. From the guy that gathers shopping carts to the guy that runs the company.

Fuck off, Russian shill.

>2020
>still being a conservatard

Yes, I do. In a true social Darwinism oriented society you would simply be shot. I see your point. However, if you wear a hat nobody else will.

Trumpets in 2016:
>We need to elect an outsider to take a sledgehammer to the Washington order and make government work for us!
Bernie voters in 2020:
>We need to elect this outsider to change up the Washington order and make government work for us!
Trumpets:
>REEEEEEEEEEEEE soshulist get out!

we still do provide food and housing you fucking moron. Or do you think the wealthy just hoard their riches in a vault like scrooge mcduck?

Well Im done here, enjoy your tendies

>employ
you mean forced at gunpoint to hand out free money to people for a job even a trained monkey could do

Imagine being so simple, that you cannot differentiate reducing government to give more power and freedom to the people and massively growing the government and taking power and freedom FROM the people.

If that's true then he already won, 90% of america is low income lazy losers

Typical right winger, can't argue with facts or logic so you resort to insults.

Your retarded. Social Darwinism equates to sink or swim. My position is, if you can’t pay for it you don’t get it; housing, food, healthcare, etc.

OP is a piece of shit, confirmed

Labor is exchanged for money and benefits. It is a voluntary agreement.

I'm voting for Bernie because I want the jews to take over the United States

>so you just resort to insults.
checks your last post
>you retarded cuck.
r u even 4 real bro

Thet already have, when the EC elected trump.

When is Mexico going to pay for that wall?

When am I going to start saving $2500 a year on health insurance like Obama promised?

you're right, I wouldn't want the United States to turn into a socialist wasteland like pic related

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>Outsider
Hes been in politics longer than most his voter base has been alive. Hes never had a non goverment job his entire life. He is as deep in the system as you can get.
Just becasue alot of other dems dont like you doesnt make you an outsider of the system.

>if you can’t pay for it you don’t get it
You're free to have that position and vote with it. But when a majority of the country can't afford the things you mentioned, you should expect them to vote against you.

Your picture of Venezuela seems to have been corrupted.

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Who said I support Obamacare?

Literally false. Shill harder, Boris.

WRONG! Bernie Sanders worked a COUPLE MONTHS as a carpenter! JUST LIKE JESUS!!!!!

ZOOOM!!!

You missed it. Every president promises things they do not deliver. Diverting to the wall when the subject was growing/reducing the government is retarded.

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Did you know Bernie has a son? Levi Sanders. This fucker is an old man, too! It's like the Mandalbaum family in Seinfeld.

youtube.com/watch?v=88M9-rBXubA

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um ma'am this is not

This

Mexico IS the wall now. Silly faggot.

So over half of the US?

Wait!

Indeed! You get it!! You sir, are free to vote as you like.

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I earn $270,000 as an engineer and I'm voting for Bernie.

Since Bernie is promoting MASSIVE tax increases for that income level, and you apparently agree, tell me something. How much EXTRA are you contributing on your taxes every year. Above and beyond what you legally owe?

~IF~ Bernie were to be elected in 2020 and serves 2 terms (I presume you Bernie boys WANT 2 terms...), he would be 87 when he left office. How are you guys OK with that?

Nah, all that shit will never make it through congress and maybe he can dismantle the iron grip of Richie Rich. He's like a liberal Ron Paul.

I'm happy paying taxes for the greater good of society. It's called making this world a better place for my family's future and everyone else.

I don't mind a tax increase at all because I'm not a fucking moron who doesn't understand how society works.

That wasn't the question. No one asked if you feel taxes are nice. I specifically asked how much EXTRA you have been paying above and beyond what you legally owe.

Ok boomer.

Because you get to live in a high rise and dribe nice cars and fuck top tier girls you selfish jackass. You owe the country that created the environment that allows your success your share, tax dodging faggot.

Taxes aren't yours anyways. You'd rather it be given to bail out others even richer than you?

Remember guys the Russians are trying to help trump destabilize our great Country! Spread the word! Anyone who continues to help Trump and his cult of evil are a traitor!

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What the hell are you on about? Who the hell pays more taxes than they owe? How the hell can you even do that? You do your taxes and you pay what you owe. Your question is nonsensical and I don't understand what ridiculous point you're trying to make.

>Because you get to live in a high rise and dribe nice cars and fuck top tier girls you selfish jackass
No he doesn't, he only makes 150k. These days that's barely middle class.

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Pssst... right at the bottom of the 1040 tax form is a box where you can pay extra. You'd know that if you ever filed a tax return.

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The only people voting for Donald Trump are lazy low income NEETS who want others to feel the same pain that they do.

Ccp enabler. Fucking bernie is such a stereotypical communist. I literally hate todays weak minded, uninformed democrats. Not my fathers party. Fuck yourself communist shits.

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Your a pathetic leech. Taxes should go to defense, infrastructure, etc., not food stamps, low income housing, subsidized education, etc. Sink or swim leech. Please don’t breed.

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Not him but ypur question is disingenuous. He doesn't have to pay more in taxes to justify his position because our current government wastes it on paying out contracts to campaign contributors, propping up banks, and bloating the military. Bernie is goimg to try to change all that. That's what this is all about. A government for the people, not just fat cat "rich at the cost of society" cunts.

I'm upper middle class and so are all of my co workers, we work labor.
The majority of us dont mind paying extra if it means a better quality of life for everyone.

Even my conservative co workers agree that private healthcare is a scam.

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I make $108,000 and I’m voting for him because having an orange retard for a leader isn’t fun anymore.

I file my taxes through TurboTax. Never saw this extra line. Why the fuck would I file extra money?

Btw, my current tax bracket is 35% (I earn just under $250,000). With Bernie's tax plan, it's still 35% for those under $250,000. So my fax bracket isn't changing. Why are you lying and saying Bernie has a MASSIVE tax increase for my income when it hasn't changed at all?

Even if you earn over 250,000, your taxes only go up 5%. I wouldn't call that massive either way unless you're an idiot who doesn't know what MASSIVE means.

Source: bernietax.com/

Food stamps, education, and housing are examples of infrastructure you literal retard.

It's stupid. The government gives you back any overage anyways. He's just an ideologue retard.

Donald Trump: "I have a great respect for Chinese President Xi Jinping"

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Best reply.

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>150k
>middle-class
>damn that capitalism!

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It was $270,000 a couple minutes ago. Did you just get a pay cut?

Regardless, for someone who claims that taxes makes them so happy, why haven't you been contributing more? "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs", right?

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>food stamps, low income housing
Agree there
>subsidized education
This is retarded. Not investing in the enrichment and success of the population is why we have antivaxxers and flat earth retards as well as crime and a permanent underclass. An semi-educated person with a decent job doesn't need food stamps or your bike.

If you were a billionaire and your tax rate was about to be 90% why wouldn’t you flee? I’d go buy an island somewhere.

Sorry that was a typo. I meant 250,000 not 270,000. But even if I earned $270,000 that would only be a 5% tax increase. I would hardly call that MASSIVE.

Because I'm going to pay how much I owe. I'm not going to pay more because what's the point right now? Taxes are increasing with Bernie's plan so we can pay for free healthcare and other social programs. Once we are paying for those things, I would be happy to pay more taxes, even 5%. But right now if I paid more for nothing, it's just going to the military industrial complex. No thanks.

>The only people voting for Bernie Sanders are lazy low income losers
This was true of Corbyn voters here in the UK. They were absolutely smashed at the ballot box and are still crying about it :) I imagine that's how the US elections will go.

#PunchACommie

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This. All they can do is scream "muh commynizm hand outs" and hope it sticks. He's going after tax dodging scumbags who are trying to become royalty.

I stand with Bernie!
Gibs me fwee money

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I don’t follow politics at all. For real. Trump was hilarious and is the gift that keeps on giving. He got my vote before just for the reaction from my liberal family. Only thing that is better is setting off my redneck family members who are going nuts I might vote for Bernie n eliminate one of their votes. The idea is enough to leave it hanging. Would fucking be hilarious to see the rednecks freakin if old jew won

Make no mistake, humans are animals. In the animal world, the weak and unfit, both physically and mentally are left to die. Due to this process of natural selection, the species thrives and becomes better. Humans are no different. If you can’t stomach the reality, simply look the other way and let nature take its course. The world will be a better place, I assure you.

Are you high? The tax rate is 52% for those earning over 10,000,000, not 90% you fucking stooge. And that tax only applies to the income you make over $10,000,000. Your first $10,000,000 is taxed with the other brackets.

Don't worry, they have no where to go. Unless they want their money to be stolen by China or they want to be killed by random drug hobos on an island. I'm sure they're staying here in the good ole USA where they have rights and freedoms.

Yes I am high actually

>muh evopsycc
What is the government's job? What should the government be doing with the taxes they collect?

If I have a billion dollars you think random drug hobos are going to stand in my way? Like I can’t buy bodyguards or something?

Just graduated trade school to start at a company for $15 an hour, boy I sure can't wait til every failure still working in a McDonald's kitchen starts making the same and milk costs $10 a gallon. Man, families supported by one father sure are oppressing the lazy poor fat people by not paying for their insulin, they should be punished by raising their taxes to pay for some angsty man child's liberal arts degree. At least minorities will feel better when an old white Jewish man is in power.

Nigga I have all the rights and freedoms if I buy my own island. Fuckin dumbass

What a stupid argument.
Do you care for dying homeless?
Yes
Do you care for our veterans?
Yes
Then why are you not building the houses for the homeless or surrendering half of your paycheck to vet funds??? You must not care about either of them!

What is this fox news?

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The Democrat’s Dream scenario

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Defense, infrastructure, etc.. using tax dollars to further the success of those who pay them. If you don’t pay them, you are not entitled to the benefits of them.

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The billionaires aren't going anywhere. There's a reason they live in the US and not anywhere else and it's not just because taxes are supposedly cheap (there are a lot of countries where taxes are even better for billionaires).

No one is leaving the US to buy their own island. And if they are, let them fuck off and hopefully we can ban them from ever entering the US again for being tax dodging assholes.

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Based user. Correct.

Low hanging fruit

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>we're animals therefore we should act like animals

Go fuck yourself with your regressive "state of nature" bullshit. The whole purpose of human cooperation is to deal with the problems presented by natural chaos. To cite that as the way things should be is to reject all of human advancement thus far. Do you like your 4chinz and your vidya? Did you type this on a piece of tree bark in forest? No? Then enjoy the fruits of civilization and shut the fuck up because that involves trying to tackle everyone's problems cooperatively.

Correct. Is that wrong?

No you don't. Rights and freedoms aren't anything without a society to give you structure and order.

The billionaires are here to live in a collective society. If they wanted to be lonely on an island far away from society they would've done it a long time ago. But they want to enjoy the same things as you, and that's not possible if they lived on some remote island.

If I had a billion dollars and my tax rate jumped up significantly I would jump ship. Just saying

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True

Because you’re a privileged piece of shit who doesn’t understand that not everyone is as lucky as you. Your fucked up country is run by lobbies and money. Greed and the worst form of capitalism known in history. You already pay taxes. A universal healthcare model would be paid out of that. Sure your taxes may increase by fucking 1 or 2% and then you can wake up knowing you made a difference.

Or just continue being a stupid fat stereotypical Americunt.

If you aren’t a pussy and work hard, you’ll have good insurance and money to pay. Too many kids, not enough money? Use a condom, dumbass. Fucked off in school? Tough shit. Not my problem. Your poor planning does not constitute justification to take my hard-earned money. Fuck off.

I’d build a McDonald’s for sure

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Agreed!

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Actually i do.

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I suppose you think the rest of the developed world outside of America is populated with lazy low income losers too

Except you're not a billionaire so you can't think like one. You just assume if you were one you would think like that. But you don't know how you would see the world if you were a billionaire.

And if you were one, then please fuck off because no one cares about you or your billions if you're not planning to give back to society. Go live on a secluded island and never come back.

I pay more than my share for human progression. It is “humans” like you, and I use the term human loosely, who are along for the free ride. Without the poor, the hungry, the illiterate, progression would be faster and more efficient.

Love when my employer gets sold and parted out and I get laid off and insurance costs 4k per month.

Of course, people feel smart when they've been fooled, and they feel stupid beyond measure when they find that what they have been told is a lie designed to help someone else. Everyone thinks they're the main character of their own story, but most people don't have the agency to really live that kind of life.

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Too bad you are a lazy shit who doesn't want to work and climb the ladder like everyone else and spends his time bending over at the bottom getting pounded hard in the ass by us and the government every day for the rest of your sad, pathetic, diabetes-ridden life

Holy shit

>all the seething Cred Forumsyps
love to see it

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And i heard they were burning bodies by the thousands

And after you “eat the rich”. Who is going to wake up at 6AM to work and make things happen so there’s money in the gubmint larders abd resources for you to absorb and enjoy?
Seriously. Resources come from labor. Your spoiled ass on the couch is nothing but a mouth to feed. You contribute nothing.

dramatic

I make $124k+ a year, is that low income?

McDonald's is going to let you franchise it on an island that has no one there other than your lonely ass and your slave workers? I don't think so. Unless you plan to make your own society and start your own country.

> we totally represent all Americans and aren’t rapist pedophiles that like to go on an Island and fuck little boys and girls because we’re rich. No sir! Not us!

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The same people who were doing before eating the rich. The middle class.

Without the poor, you wouldn't be able to have low-wage workers who take service jobs like McDonald's and cashiers. Who is going to serve you and clean your streets when there's no poor? Hint: it's going to be you.

This.

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The same people who do right now. Bezos makes money whether he's golfing or fucking or laying on the beach. That's not labor.

If I were a billionaire you’d want to worship me so that I find all this socialist bullshit you want and your Jew leader want to peddle

According to Bernie's plan, your tax bracket will stay at 24% with that income. No change.

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Fund*

I make around this amount too and I don't think it's particularly low.

>When you EAT THE RICH who’s going to pay the way for all the freebies you think you’re going to get?
The money generated from profitable business doesn't just disappear when you decide to heavily tax and redistribute the otherwise hoarded money. Are you retarded?

so you're saying they're deplorable?

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The only people voting for Donald Trump are lazy low income losers who want free stuff no matter what it does to the country.

At least this country is consistent.

It’s amazing to watch the DNC use the media as a tool to try to shape the nomination, again. Attacking Bernie and rolling out the tapes of Bloomberg. The reality is they’ve got a ton of anger and vitriol, but don’t have a viable and sane candidate that can actually win.

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Depends. Do you have a big fat Jewish dick? That's what I like.

Btw, the fact that you say this shows me this is how you imagine rich people feel. You think people worship them so you want to feel like people worship you if you were one of them. So sad how you've deluded yourself into thinking people worship billionaires and don't just use them for their money while thinking they're the cancer of this Earth.

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gold

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Agreed. My income has gone from $40k a year to $120k+ in the last ten years.

Acceptable. Even in a perfect Darwinist world there are those who don’t succeed. They survive by accepting what they can get. When they are gone, more will follow. It is self sustaining.

It does if all the billionaires squirrel their money away in secure offshore accounts in response to an elected government they find distasteful, which according to all the right-wing dogwhistles, seems to be what they're threatening to do if we tax them.

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Nope, pretty sure if you tax Jeff Bezos, he's just going to give up on making money and stop.

ECONOMY DEAD, good job

Then yours is invalid too what's your point?

You sound like a sadistic feudalist.

Define infrastructure.

How much should be spent on defense of there is no threat?

What do yplou mean by "paying those who pay them..."? So you believe in handouts but only for people who are already rich. How does that create a successful nation?

Pretty sure tribes distributed resources to everyone, not just the shaman and the hunters.

How is a nation supposed to be successful if it just forgets about the vast majority of the population and doesn't even make an effort to make the most of its people?

Libtards don't realise their obsession with stats and policies is the reason no one takes them seriously

insurance costs like 3-5 grand a month. I work 50 hour weeks making 30/hr and still cant afford it after rent/utilities, phone, food, car, internet, etc. No kids, no debt, not married. The only way to get insurance cheap is to be so broke and unemployed that you get medicaid aka free tax-payer funded healthcare. So, in America, you either have to submit and willingly be a broke, homeless piece of shit... OR you have to be a millionaire. Hard working, normal person? NO chance at coverage.

> that little girls pussy was pretty tight last night eh mini Mike?

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Because people vote for everyone to share their belongings does not make it morally right,in fact its theft. Thats what bernie stands for

Every other first world country has free healthcare. They aren't suffering from some plague of laziness. The truth is, the lowest income earners actually work the hardest in a physical sense, are exposed to more dangers in the work places, and their health suffers for it. Since not everyone can be expected to have highly skilled labor (as that would actually crash the economy, and lower the value of skilled labor) those who make the most money aught to pitch in, myself included, for several reasons. The first is that supporting the health and well being of the lower class lowers crime drastically which means less taxes spent on literally supporting a bunch of no-good prisoners. The second is that it also benefits yourself as you also get healthcare for a very modest increase in taxes. The amount you spend on healthcare currently will be more than the increase in taxes to pay for universal healthcare. A third reason could be altruism. Life isn't all about supporting yourself and letting everyone else fend for themselves. Being charitable is a part of living in a society. Another reason to pay for universal healthcare is that people having access to healthcare lowers the chances of severe conditions not being treated until they become extremely debilitating. This means less people on disability, and far less people clogging the healthcare system. There are many many reasons why universal healthcare is a good one. But since you are clearly a selfish person just remember that if you regularly see a doctor (and if you don't you're an idiot) that you will actually save money and have superior healthcare coverage as medicare for all will cover dental and vision as well.

Agreed

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>minimum wage gets raised to $15 an hour
>groceries double in cost to compensate for wages, or are forced to mass layoff workers
>people that make just above $15 an hour don't receive raises, can't afford inflated cost of groceries
>small businesses close down since they can't afford the required amount of man power
>rent is raised after landlords realize potential tenants are being paid more

People who support Bernie truly are retarded

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Noice, I can see my apartment in this picture.

But then you'll become the poor.

>someone wants more of what I've helped to create than I want to give them
>takes my ball and goes home
I'm sure that someone who was capable enough to build Amazon into a trillion dollar company also has the emotional intelligence of a toddler, makes total sense.

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>knowledge bad, orange man say so

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>Hates the poor, doesn't think they should exist
>Fully acknowledges that they must and will always need to exist
alright friend

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You're not paying for others. You're just paying your taxes. Other people far more qualifies to deal with society's issues will use the funds of the state. Your tribute pays for the environment that cradled your success. You wouldn't have xone this well if you were in Somalia you shortsighted cunt. Wouldn't matter how hard you pulled your bootstraps.

So, you're saying the only thing that motivates people is greed, and you know exactly what would happen if the federal minimum wage is raise? Wow, that's pretty insightful stuff, tell us more user.

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Yea! Fuck stats and policies. And graphs too. I fucking hate graphs

They are already doing this. Part of the process of taxing them is making that illegal.

>spams pictures
>doesn't debate

Yep that's a leftist

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>Insurance costs like 3-5 grand a month.
Nigger what? Don't be a fucking idiot.

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Good thing you'll never have power

The minimum wage was already increased in many states to $15 an hour and they haven't been having any of these issues you mentioned. Sounds like you're the retarded one making shit up from your ass.

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Yes, that's correct.

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I don’t hate them, they are useful. However, I do not owe them more than what I agree to pay for their services.

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If I was american I would already offed myself out of that cesspool.

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>2007
Kys loser

Lol did you just hear that word loved it, and had to use it, even if incorrectly?

All shit tier services that are extremely corrupt, and tremendously expensive

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Where are u progressing to? Death?
So many fucking retards here

Oh good so they get to gamble in the stock casino and pass money amongst themselves rather than investing it in their businesses, workforce, and research. Finance people are ruining this country.

You don't agree anything. It's not your choice. You pay the taxes or you go to jail. Unless you're rich, then you can get your lawyers to fight it for you in court and lose millions of dollars but at least you didn't have to pay that in taxes.

If your not motivated, unintelligent, lazy, etc...good for you is correct.

Not my own. Possibly yours and others who cannot succeed.

lol, true

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Get a clue

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>thinks grocery stores need to jack prices up 100% to compensate for 10% increase in wages
>calls others retarded

Current US debt 22 trillion dollars

Bernie Sanders health care in additional 30 trillion over 10 years

All other proposals, Tripling US debt by best estimates.

You want health care? Get a job at walmart

What do you pay for "human progression"? Define what that means. Assuming it doesn't just mean "bullshit". You don't do shit for anyone but ypurself which is why the concept of taxes exists.

Libshits being dangerously stupid is why nobody takes them seriously

Literally no states have.

Even if that were true, most states still have $7.25. imagine if every single state was forced federally to more than double it, pure retardation to think massive layoffs and massive inflation won't follow.

This guy has a clue.

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you're poor because you're Stupid

Your mistaken. I will absolutely agree to payment for services I want and need. However, I, nor anyone else should be forced to pay “minimum” amounts.

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Do you really believe I owe it to another to do something for them simply because I can?

Implying the stock market doesent effect everyones living standards is utter cluelessness. Go waste your vote on an old lazy millionaire commie with no work history that drives a red Audi.

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Do you agree that living in society is better than living in a chaotic, state-of-nature warzone?

>minimum wage is $7.25
>10% increase of 7.25 is 7.97

Yep, Bernie supporters are retarded.

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You forgot lesbian dance theory

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Trump drives a red Audi? I didn't know that.

I believe that taxation solves the problem of selfish asses like you benefitting from society without paying back into it.

Someone hates beauty

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Medicare for All:
> tried and tested model
> just pay additional tax and in return you don't have to pay: insurance premiums, co-pays, out of pocket max for services
> employers don't have to pay exorbitant prices for insurance, leaving them more room to hire people, give workers $15/hr

Current Model:
> insurance companies and hospitals scheme together to bleed middle class people out of as much money as possible through a byzantine system of networks & plans
> You pay: A monthly premium, plus co-pays, plus a percentage of costs up to your out of pocket max, most lower middle class people having an insane out of pocket max

Look at how much of your paycheck every two weeks goes to health insurance. Once you've calmed down from the sticker shock, look at how much your employer contributes to that. It's absolutely retarded.
What's more retarded is paying for healthcare services AFTER those ridiculous premiums.

> muh wait times
Why do countries with universal healthcare have similar of better life expectancy outcomes. Hmm..

If you're still licking insurance company boots after all this time getting fucked by the, you're not gonna make it.
You have Stockholm syndrome.

All of Bernie's shit is considered center-left in Europe. Only in the USA are people convinced it's the end of capitalism and democracy.

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Here you go: ncsl.org/research/labor-and-employment/state-minimum-wage-chart.aspx

All the wage increase over the years and the plan for the next decade. Most States are increasing to $15 over the next years.

Some highlights AS OF THIS YEAR:

California - $13

D.C. - $14

Maine - $12

Arizona - $12

They're going up every year based on legislation they passed, up to $15 in the next few years.

So pray tell, where is the anarchy and mass layoffs in California and DC since their minimum wage is almost at $15? Is DC facing any supermarket shortages? Are people less employed in California since before the wage hikes?

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Have had this exact conversation. With the same person who refuses to understand marginal tax rates and thinks Bernie wants to take 52% of their income LOL.

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True or false, does California have a homeless problem right now?

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Where the hell do you live??

You just pay your taxes, shut the fuck up and enjoy your comtinued success. People more qualified than you will deal handle society with what is now the government's money. It isn't your money. It's the government's money

>minimum wage is $7.25
>in Alabama and nowhere else

Yep, trumphumpers are literally retarded.

If they're too stupid to understand marginal tax rates, they are probably in the lowest tax bracket anyways.

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>Thread is about Sanders
>Posts dozens of images only about Trump

Sure Hillary though.

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True, but can you prove a causal link between minimum wage & housing problems? California has a zoning issue. All the real estate being constructed on is luxury apartments for big money foreign buyers. You can't just say

A happens in X Place.
B also happens in X Place.
A causes B.

>I can't answer the question, so I'll deflect

Um.. if your taxes are increased to pay for more social welfare, doesn’t that mean you are paying more for other people?

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172,000 dollar car cucks lol. Oh and the picture is real, the debate is were campaign funds used to purchase it?

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How is that related to the wage increase? Did the homeless problem get worse after wages went up or it's not related?

Also, DC has a higher minimum wage than California. Why didn't you mention them and you're only focusing on California? What about Arizona, Maine, Massachusetts, and Colorado that all have minimum wages of $12 or more? Do they have a homeless problem too?

Why are you only focusing on California when their homeless problem is not related to the wage increase? I think you're being disingenuous.

Every city Democrats run is drug,crime and homeless infested

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Yes, homeless and drugs go to where the money and employed are.

Bernie is worth a million dollars. He can easily afford a car like this. You too can afford a car like this if you say stuff that people want to hear and right a book about it

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Poorest states have Republican legislatures, and richest have Democratic ones: usatoday.com/story/money/columnist/2018/10/21/midterms-poorest-states-have-republican-legislatures/1694273002/

Stay sad soyboy.

Bernie is fighting to give people equal opportunity to achieve stuff like this. His wealth tax starts at incomes over $32 million with a 1% tax.

You cannot even image the kind of wealth hoarding the largest whales in this country do. And you're getting butthurt over a car.

Setup tents everywhere,shoot up and shit all over the street?

No wonder everyone on this board loves him so much, he's the most powerful cuck in the world

Wtf are you talking about, no one wanted obama to bail out the banks except the banks

Lol hes driving a red 170k$ sports car and you dont see the hypocrisy? You are officially a zombie

Don't you mean we're the cucks and he's the master? Doesn't make sense if he's the cuck and we're listening to him...

No body said you can't have nice things. Get the fuck out of here with your stupid straw man.

Oh no, Bernie drives a RED car.
I don't believe in universal healthcare anymore, guess I'm voting for trump LMAO. A guy who has never done anything hypocritical in his life.

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