Lol

I still have to pay 10k for some stitches, a bag of saline, and equipment like tubes and shit which probably costs nothing to make for being slashed with a box cutter

ass rape

Snake bite
lol

Where are my free healthcare bros at?
I never got how you americucks are willing to pay unironically hundreds of dollars for a fucking medical procedure

Enjoy your long wait times and poor quality of care while I pay for the best healthcare in the world.

NO wonder the drugs were so expensive

Bro, I would rather wait 2 months for a doc to fix my leg that to pay 300k. Also emergencies are free and you go in instantly

I don't. That's why I'm sick and miserable. Also it's more than "hundreds" to walk into the door.

Meant thousands, I'm retarded

I saw a video the other day of what basic medical stuff is worth in burgerland and Jesus fuck, no wonder mortality in the lower classes is so high. Calling for an ambulance costed like 150 bucks if I recall correctly

Foreskin

I paid 36eur and had an appointment next week. I also could have waited a month to get it for free. 36eur is a bit less than 100k

>free
Not sure you understand how "free" works. Does you government just magically have money out of thin air for the costs?

ambulances can be $15,000

It's $1,000+. Bonus, you're paying a private company. Ems ambulance bills come from a private company. Good times.

Good. If you can't afford to get sick just stop being poor. It's not rocket surgery.

This is how conservatives sound.

>Implying taxes for healthcare are "muh unfair"
Let's see what you think when you have to pay half a million bucks for having your tumor removed

Unironically taking a cab and hiring some med students is probably worth it

kek this 100%

You're fucking retarded.

>Just stop being poor bro
>How can you expect to live if you can't even pay rent?!
And they wonder why USA is steadily going to deeper shit by the minute

$150?!? Try at the very least $1000.

150 $ if the ambulance is a bicycle

Look at the part at the top where the person is on Medicaid. This bill will get paid for by the state.

Probably was an emergency room visit for a meth overdose

What kind of snake? Guessing it was a rattler or moccasin. Crofab is expensive as shit, whilst in Mexico, American crotalid polyvalent is like $200 a dose and more effective.

Spain has similar quality service at 1/4 the price or less.
Mexico is cheaper but ... yeah

Do hospitals tell you beforehand when a bill is going to be this big? If not, how is it legal for them to hit you with a multiple thousand dollar bill out of nowhere?

>poor quality of care

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Why the fuck would you pay a month's savings because you tripped and fell down the stairs? I could go to Paris for a week with 1.5k

Nigger, are you retarded? The bill literally says insurance is paying $00.00. Learn how to fucking read faggot.

I had to wait for 15 minutes last time. Not sure 15 min is worth 300k.

I wouldn't. I'm just telling you the cost of one. I avoid the doctor's office and ER like the fucking plague.

Hey user if you had insurance it would only be half that!

Kek
How much does that cost? I think like 85% of people are in medical insurance but I'm not sure how much of the bill is paid by the government. I doubt it's 100%

>And they wonder why USA is steadily going to deeper shit by the minute
freedom isn't free silly goy

Man OP I hate when I get a bloody nose in the US.

It says they applied for Medicaid not that they were approve. Learn how to read fucktard.

>Imagine not getting necessary treatment because of the high prices
You guys need to fix something if you want to survive past 60 yo

83 thousand fucking dollars worth of medication lul our healthcare is trash

That is from an illegal alien. Hence the "Medicaid" insurance.

OP this is still so much better than any goddamn Bernie communist healthcare where you would be waiting for 60 days only to be greeted by an Obama/Hillary death panel. This is America, if you don't like our healthcare costs then you need to pull yourself up by the bootstraps and not be a poor piece of shit. President Trump can pay for this type of bill, why can't you? Oh I know why, because you are a lazy liberal who expects a free handout

>Enjoy your long wait times
lol what's this burger bullshit? they believe here in europe we wait long times?

Look at the bill. Insurance isn't paying a dime.

An ambulance ride in the US is 2k.

I agree. I already eat healthy, exercise, etc. Fuck the healthcare system. They're greedy fuckers that Don't give a fuck if we live or die.

They do believe that. They believe anything the TV tells them or they can possibly imagine as long as it confirms their beliefs. I could get an MRI anywhere in the city today. I might wait an hour. It will cost 5 dollars.

How can insurance refuse to pay? It's a contract, you pay them every month so if you get sick or need treatment you are fully covered. That's literally the point

Next thing you know, 300% tax on healthy food and gyms because "muh libtard if you can pay you always have McDonald's and your basement to exercise"

That's not how insurance works at all. It would be nice if it worked that way and politicians like Bernie think it should work that way, but it certainly doesn't right now.

Actually my Dad had an emergency last year and he only had to pay 20 Euros for the ambulance. Literally less than a taxi.

All hail the European health care systems.

The insurance companies can choose the type of care they pay for. For example, my insurance won't pay for any dental aside from "emergency dental." Just depends on what the health issue is. I realize it's fucking asinine. That's why we need "universal" healthcare.

Then the question is, can the us afford universal health care? And if so, why haven't you done it yet? I see no point in the current system, even the rich get sick

Don't pay it

That is insane, user. Where do you go when your tooth hurts then? I doubt any company would call that an "emergency"

Is that even an option?

The US is the richest country in the history of the world. We can afford it by eliminating monthly health insurance premiums (~$1000 average) and applying a couple percent tax increase.

Insurance havers don't realize they're already paying for the underinsured coming to the ER for gangrene because they couldn't afford to go to the doctor to get an ingrown nail fixed.

Yeah that's definitely not covered by standard health insurance. Dental insurance basically halves the cost of dental treatment. It's still expensive.

yes

Exactly. The insurance companies get to define what they'll cover and what they won't. It's super fucked.

Sure. Then people who pay for their health insurance will see their premiums increase. :)

That's why we need m4a

If the math checks out, I see no problem in that. That works for us eurofags at least

Remember if you get cancer and want to switch jobs, the insurance company from the new job is going tell you to fuck off with your preexisting condition.

Yeah you agree with 73% of Americans about that. It's remarkably popular but the people making money off death are in charge and paid off.

Canaduh bruh here. Been to hospital many times, some were surgeries some not. Sometimes had to wait for a bit, sometimes got in right away. Every time I had NO out of pocket expenses. I didn't have to worry about whether or not I'm going to owe another $100,000 or not.
Do I pay extra taxes? Sure do, but I'd rather pay a little extra here and there then have to worry about money when I'm sick or injured.
Even if I don't have a job, I still don't pay out of pocket.

How come people don't protest or raise the issue? Any EU gov't tries to establish that system here and you probably get a coup d'etat

Lol, not how it works at all.

Homo love

You're fault for getting sick or injured op, its gods will.

Also your fault for not having enough money, if you prayed and were nice people would employ you and you would have insurance.

Its only a tough world for sinners.

We do.

That's exactly how it works dumbass.

So much for the TV's duty to inform us, whenever they talk about USA it's some polemic tweet that noone cares about or a mass shooting somewhere in Texas

HAHA AMERICA WHAT A JOKE
"land of the free"
definitely does not look free to me

Muffhredah intensified a lot, but I also became obese and dimwitted after reading. Anyway, what's on FOX? And bring some guns in here

Yeah. Obama was on the right track. His plan wasn't without flaws but at least he was trying to get it going. Trump came in a fucked all that up for us tho. Trump ruined all the progress Obama made. It was kinda all he did the first couple of years.

Enjoy listening to Fox News about other countries instead of people who live there. Being this fucking stupid.

If educated people voted republican education would be free.

Is bernie a communist or a socialist. You fucking idiots can't seem to decide when they're too entirely different things.

They think anyone who disagrees with them is manipulating them. They're broken.

This is what happens when you value money over human lives. Capitalism is good, but not when you take it to the extreme. This shit is almost as bad as communism. First world country my ass

This is worse. The amerilards keep believing that they are free, but damn if you get sick you might as well move to a gulag because your life is DONE! At least no one pretends to be free in a gulag.

Ahahahha. Amerifat.

send them a post dated check for $12

Look at the due date. A week. 1 WEEK
LOL

Dumb fucker shound't have taken a selfie with a rattle snake.

Right?!? And in two weeks they send it to collections so you have some annoying niggers or pajeets calling you everyday asking for the money. Land o the free!

>implying you would be able to pay that bill and continue living normally

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>what is financing

Pretty much every country in the world, including many in Africa, have implemented universal health care, so I'm pretty sure the US can afford it. It will be a severe hit to the bottom line of private health care, insurance, pharma, and related services of course, as their price models suddenly will have to be competitive.

itt people acting as if federal reserve fiat money isnt already imaginary debt inflation fakebucks anyway

What would financing that cost do you think? How much could you afford to pay per month?

And a lot of taxes.

What is the average tax rate in Spain? What is the average tax rate in the US?

Question for the euros
> what country are you from
> how much is your income taxed as a percentage
> rough income bracket. Something like lower middle or upper income

I was looking at Britain and it didn't look too much higher than what we pay here unless I am misreading.

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whats your choice? refuse the service and die?

Doesnt seem bad at all. I'd take that deal to not have to worry about healthcare.

its like when you get into an accident in america its either you let yourself die or begin your new life in slavery.

damn, the corona virus is a blessing for the us pharma and medical industry

lol

The US doesn't have the best health care. Some European countries, Japan and Canada are much better, Amerifat

Natural selection, lol

Average insurance monthly premiums are about 500 individual, 1200 family and that'll get you a plan with a 30k+ deductible or whatever. Health insurance in the US is bankruptcy insurance for the vast majority of the population. It's not good for anything. I have a cadillac plan that costs 800 a month and my copays are 20 dollars for doctor visits/generic prescriptions, but procedures still cost money, no dental, no vision. It's retarded.

Wow you're retarded. Its that cropped piece at the top. Whenever someone w/o insurance gets a bill we start a medicaid/state health insurance application with the bill and if the person qualifies medicaid pays. If they dont they should have had insurance

Dubs of truth. Tired of hearing the same old „but muh competition makes everything better“ argument. The lards are slaves to a system they are proud of.
Free? Yeah, free to die.

Free healthcare fag here living life. Gonna have a free eye surgery soon :)

I mean if you have a good nurse they'll help you by hooking you up with social services and other resources to help cover the bill.

Haha the cope is strong with this one. Literally entire thread laughing at you faggot

In some countries, waits for elective surgeries are longer than the US but in a lot of countries they aren't. 4% of Americans waited 4 months or more for an elective surgery. 0% of Germans did.

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>not having insurance
lmao

look at this dude

yup

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Quit being worthless faggots and get a job with good insurance. Honestly , even a bill like that would end up costing my family $2500 and everything else the rest of the year would be free as well.

> 2500, what a steal!
lol

exactly, the "free" in freedom does not mean that anything should actually be free.

only an idiot would think that.

Then pls hand over your gun.

I have a job with good insurance. It costs my boss twice as much as it would in any other country on earth. Our whole org will get a raise if Sanders wins.

>raise
it's pronounced, "letter of separation".

health care is the most expensive in america because it is the most regulated in america.

yeah no

What regulations would you like to eliminate specifically?

Pharmacy 80 000?

What the fuck

When I go to the doctor my co payment is between $.150 and $60

America is a joke

Would you rather be dead? Remember, you can always kill yourself.
Honestly though, I feel like some could take this to court and apply economic standards for wages an product price to lower it to a reasonable price, or sue for price gouging.

lol not a chance

you can try to get the actual hospital to lower the charges or apply for retroactive insurance but in court you're not going to get dick

You could just not pay it.

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Hope you like having your wages garnished until the day you die.

Assuming you don't get paid under the table or get an account outside of the US

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Neat. My company pays for my insurance. What's it like to be poor fags with shit tier jobs?

>Assuming getting an account outside the US would keep your wages from being garnished

isn't obamacare, passed only by democrats, and sported by bernie great?

Can't help notice you skipped the 'getting paid under the table' portion there friend.
Also
>what is jurisdiction?

If you have a real job you aren't getting paid under the table. When wages are garnished they come out like social security payments, before the money hits your bank account. You are wrong. Your solutions are dumb. Stop defending them.

>ambulances can be $15,000
Bullshit. Maybe an airlift a very long distance. Rates are published and for my state the highest rate is $2k. The average is around $1k.

Yea, it's not. Companies have group coverage. They don't follow individuals. Get a fucking job or open your eyes.

Explain to me the downside of not getting your wages taken from the government. Go ahead, I'll wait.

Yea, you got foreigners waiting for appointments at your facilities? We do. Mayo clinic has niggers from your country hoping to get in.

Question. The person who received this bill, do they vote Democrat or Republican?
If R, they deserve whatever happens to them.

Listen stupid, this was a snake bite and the anti venom was billed at a silly rate. It made the news here. The bill was settled by insurance and the story went away.

Yeah we do to...

Medical judgments can't garner wages. They can fuck up your credit if your a thin file but if that's the only bad thing on your report, most underwriters will still approve a loan with explanation.

You should have got yourself a decent job or joined the military or something.

lmaooo

This might seem bad but remember that if we don't subsidize Europe's defense they might have to cut back on their benefits. We don't want the Russians to win now do we?

KYS nigger

Fucking burgers, what the fuck is that like.

Just move to Canada already

Insurance - The private service the government mandates you pay for that's whole business it's about doing whatever it can to NOT cover you.

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Explains the med costs. Antivenom is crazy expensive. I’ve seen how much my hospital charges for care and it was nothing crazy like that besides major life saving operations where everything they’re using costs thousands of dollars itself.

Sorta. It has the power to prevent greedy assholes from overbilling.

Not that you have any, fucking sheep.

Just burn that shit and tell the write it off like they do the illegals

simping for your primary care provider

American here. I went to the hospital twice in a month they literally never even sent me a bill just had to pay $100 each time for admission. Have sex.

If you're airlifted, it starts at 40k. That's minimum, any distance. If you do any extreme spots, a Life Flight lifetime membership is only 1k and gives you one free ride a year.