Zoo Discussion Thread with Feral yiff instead of real pics because real pics get ya beaned
I really love animals and just want to talk about them, so hop in if this sounds like your type of thing
Zoo Discussion Thread with Feral yiff instead of real pics because real pics get ya beaned
I really love animals and just want to talk about them, so hop in if this sounds like your type of thing
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Do you have a good boi or good girl or have you ever been with one? If so, what breed, are they male or female, and are you male or female?
If you don't but would want to, what breed would you prefer and would you want male or female?
Heyo, how ya doing?
Are you kaiserbro?
goood how about you?
So much sex basically everyday
they are talking shit about you in the other thread but even though I just lurk I still love reading about the stuff that gets posted in here
lol, what do you have? Female dog, male dog, mare, stallion?
I'm also doing pretty good, I was on a pretty long vacation and even though I brought Kaiser along, we didn't ever have any chances to do anything, so it was a month with no nuts busted from either of us, and I also really missed the horses at the ranch I work at, but I'm back now so it's all good
Anyone with experience want to talk via kik? I need advice.
Thanks bro, that guy just gets really salty and has some really weird moral high ground that he thinks he has because he used to be a zoo and quit it, like no one forces him or anyone else to click on this thread lol, if it's your thing then yeah, hop in, but if it's not and you don't even want to have a discussion about it, then there's literally no reason to care about it
I don't use kik or telegram or anything like that because I've had friends on there that have been doxxed and outted as zoos, so I'm kinda really paranoid about that stuff. I'll gladly answer any questions or help you need on here though
>literally no reason to care about it
What part of, "You shouldn't be doing something that can easily have you ostracized, or go to jail or prison, even end up on a sex offender registry and have your life ruined," do you not understand? Not only is it illegal and morally objectionable, it can traumatize animals without you even realizing it because you don't understand animal psychology, but it completely goes against their instinct of getting the opposite sex of their own species pregnant. You abuse their trust for your own sexual gratification that you mistake for "love" when true love is respecting the fact that you are incompatible with a dog.
where is a good place for zoo vids? i used to go to 8 chan but they are gone and the remake of the site doesn't have any
Sadly linking places can get ya beaned, best advice I can give is to use tor and just search for what you are looking for with duckduckgo and you'll most likely find it
thanks. hopefully i can find something
Do you not think animals feel pleasure while having sex? And how in the hell does it "traumatize" my boi when he fucks me, or "traumatize" a mare when I fuck her?
Also it's legal where I live, and as I showed you last night it's legal in a few states in the US and a few countries, I also told you why the legality argument is pretty fucking stupid
Do you want to chat about anything while you're here? Do you have a good boi or good girl of your own?
Love the 1, 2 combo pic there. First post was intriguing and I thought I wonder what it would look like... then boom.
Did you start your dog (Kaiser?) as a puppy? Does he do inappropriate or telling stuff in public?
i do and he is a very good boi. but sadly he is way too small to do anything with. but at least he gets lots of love
My boi Kaiser is a King Shepherd, and I didn't even discover zoo until he was 3 or 4, so we were already extremely close because he's always been my best friend, and once we started getting sexual it was pretty easy because he's a huge licker, and the him actually fucking me was pretty easy too because he's been studded out before so he already kinda knew what to do.
As I said, he's a Shepherd so he's super smart and super easy to train, and with sexual stuff it took a few weeks but he learned that sexy time is only when we're in my room, and only when I take his collar off. He very rarely gets humpy in public but he does sniff everyone's crotch which is weird and me and my friends all call him a fag boi for it, but really it's just normal dog stuff lol.
The best time to start with him is about a year and a half old, how old is your boi and what breed is he?
Again, it isn't about pleasure. It's about their instinct. Only humans, bonobos, and bottlenose dolphins have sex for pleasure. Dogs don't. Dogs, like every other animal, fuck to get the opposite sex of their species pregnant. By letting yourself get fucked in the ass by a dog, it's abusing the trust of that dog who knows it's supposed to make babies.
The legality argument is entirely legitimate because it's there to protect animals from harm because if everyone were allowed to fuck dogs then they'd be treated like sex slaves when they're already slaves for the entertainment of people when animals should be in the wild, not in someone's house or backyard. Just because you love your dog doesn't mean you should fuck him.
Hey, that's all that really matters is that he gets lots of love and lives the best life he can possibly live, the sex is just a very nice extra but not necessary
>It's about their instinct. Only humans, bonobos, and bottlenose dolphins have sex for pleasure. Dogs don't. Dogs, like every other animal, fuck to get the opposite sex of their species pregnant. By letting yourself get fucked in the ass by a dog, it's abusing the trust of that dog who knows it's supposed to make babies.
Can we get a citation on this?
The problem here isn't that animals like sex, it's the fact that we don't know what goes on in the mind of that animal. Just because a woman can orgasm from getting raped doesn't mean she enjoys it and that it's okay. It's manipulating an animal into something that it otherwise never would have done, for the sexual gratification of a person, not what that animal should be doing in the wild.
So you're saying you've never seen a dog hump a pillow or anything like that? You've never seen a male dog try to get off? Dogs do feel pleasure from it and that's what they are feeling, I highly doubt they are thinking "Hmm, why yes, the reason I am gonna go fuck that thicc dog over there is because I want to have a litter", no, they are doing it because it feels good. Take for example pain, why do we or any other species feel pain? It's our body telling us "Nigga, stop whatever is happening to you because that shit is bad". We don't feel pain just to feel it, there's reason behind it. So then I ask you why do we or any other species feel pleasure? It's our body encouraging us to do something. Us feeling good from busting a nut is reward for reproducing, because without that reward there wouldn't be much of an incitive to do it.
Dogs humping pillows, couches, beds, legs, anything they can get to and stallions bellyslapping is proof that they feel pleasure from it, and that they want to bust a nut because it feels good, not because they are thinking about making a child
The whole principal of having pets is just "instinct abusing". You abuse your dogs instincts to play fetch, you abuse your cats instincts to use it to catch mice, etc.
Far worse is when you hurt the animal to do the work for you, yet this is still in our society seen acceptable for some reason.
And the worst is keeping the animal caged and then killing it just for making money. Yet gey, this is what happens en masse.
Now tell me again, how using an instinct which is pleasurable for the animal, is wrong
That wiki link you posted goes against your point. It literally just says "nigga we don't know because there aren't any studies on it because it's taboo" It just says that they feel pleasure from it, and the point I was making here: gets reinforced by that wiki because it literally says they most likely aren't fucking to make babies, but are fucking because it feels good
>I highly doubt they are thinking "Hmm, why yes, the reason I am gonna go fuck that thicc dog over there is because I want to have a litter", no, they are doing it because it feels good.
That's absolutely false and ignorant as you can get. That dog wants to get off and get a bitch pregnant, not fuck a human's dirty asshole. If it's trained to fuck you then it's essentially brainwashing because it's manipulating that animal to do something it otherwise wouldn't do. As for the pleasure argument, I've already stated many times that they feel pleasure, but their instinct drives them to survive and breed, not to fuck for fun.
I don't even agree with having pets because it's slavery in and of itself. The wild dog and cat population is enormous, and causes huge damage to livestock and crops because they were taken out of their natural environment for the benefit of humans.
It does not go against my point, and only supports my argument because you're doing something that you don't know how it affects that animal. It's taking a risk for your own pleasure, not to help that dog make babies, which is manipulation/abuse. The only reason an animal would ever have sex for pleasure is it if were trained to do so for the sexual gratification of the person. Wild animals don't fuck for pleasure, they do it to breed.
Seriously, I don't understand how people can say getting fucked by your dog that you love to death is wrong, an interaction where both of you get a pretty pleasurable experience, and then turn around and say keeping your dog chained up alone outside is okay or the way we treat farm animals is okay, or snipping off a dog's balls or cutting out her uterus is okay just because people don't actually want to take the time to train their animals. Like wtf
Dogs do have sex for pleasure. All animals do.
Except I don't agree with any of that which you aren't understanding. I think having pets at all is bad, and mutilating them is worse. Don't project your bullshit onto me as if I've said any of that because I highly disagree with all of it.
Nobody talks about you, stop being an asshurt social justice faggot
LITERALLY FROM YOUR OWN SOURCE:
>Even though the evolution-related purpose of mating can be said to be reproduction, it is not actually the creating of offspring which originally causes them to mate. It is probable that they mate because they are motivated for the actual copulation, and because this is connected with a positive experience. It is therefore reasonable to assume that there is some form of pleasure or satisfaction connected with the act.
Your own source that you linked reinforces my point that they aren't thinking about making puppies, they are thinking about busting a nut. And again, they wouldn't hump people's legs or hump things around the house if they were only wanting to reproduce and not to just feel good.
>The only reason an animal would ever have sex for pleasure is it if were trained to do so for the sexual gratification of the person
You say you were a zoo but I'm not really sure when you say things like that, like holy fuck you pretty much have to have never been around a male dog before to think that you have to train him to want to fuck
So trying to protect the lives of animals and people is somehow bad, and using something that is inherently good as an insult? Are you fucking stupid? Because you are completely delusional if you think I'm the bad guy for wanting to keep people from ruining their lives and manipulating animals. That only shows that you're the one with the problem, not me.
I didn't really mention you specifically, I just said I hate when people say that and then turn around and say the other, if you don't turn around and say the other thing, then it doesn't apply to you bro
But yeah now I just disagree with you on a whole other aspect of you saying we shouldn't have pets or anything like that
You're posting a lot of pics with females, do you have a female of your own?
>On the other hand, it is impossible to know the subjective feelings of animals, and the notion that non-human animals experience emotions similar to humans is a contentious subject.
This is why you shouldn't be fucking animals. You literally have no idea what you're talking about because you aren't a dog, you can't verbally communicate with them, you don't know what they think, and I'm pretty sure they're only following their instinct of sex = offspring. So isn't it better safe than sorry?
So what about using an animal for your own entertainment and pleasure is okay? The fact of the matter is that having a pet is literally slavery. Animals raised in captivity can't survive in the wild because they don't have the ability. It completely goes against their instinct.
yea its great i have four actually. Glad kaiser isnt banned.
Now that I understand that you just straight up don't think we should have any animals or anything like that, our viewpoints are too different to actually have any discussion about it. Like idk who hurt you or what you went through to take the complete 180 from you loving your animals to you straight up hating having pets or anything like that, there's nothing I could say that would even make you start to think about zoo differently without you thinking pets are okay.
I'm not saying your position is wrong, I'm just saying I 100% don't agree with it but I do see where you are coming from.
Oh are you the guy who usually hops in here and posts music links and is self-employed, or are you someone different?
If you're someone different, what breeds are your girls?
yea theres the regulars not many
>you aren't a dog, you can't verbally communicate with them, you don't know what they think
Neither do you, but it's not exactly a stretch to think that if a creature is voluntarily doing something, it's because they like it.
>I'm pretty sure they're only following their instinct of sex = offspring
Almost every action of every creature is based off of instinct. Are you going to complain about anything else being wrong because of instinct?
>The fact of the matter is that having a pet is literally slavery.
If you are equating pet ownership with bestiality, youve already won the argument for us.
>isn't it better safe than sorry?
>So what about using an animal for your own entertainment and pleasure is okay?
If we are both getting something out of the arrangement, then it is mutually beneficial.
>Animals raised in captivity can't survive in the wild because they don't have the ability.
Therefore pet ownership is moral. We are keeping them alive. From a personal standpoint, being alive and having sex sounds a lot better than dying.
>It completely goes against their instinct.
So is following one's instinct good or bad? Make up your mind.
I don't hate having pets, and never have. I hate the idea of having pets because it revolves around humans manipulating another creature for themselves, not the animal. I love animals, but that doesn't mean we should use them for our own entertainment and pleasure. What about that is okay to you? You don't want a pet because you love that animal, you want a pet because of your own selfish desires. If you truly cared about animals you wouldn't want a pet because they're better off in the wild doing what nature intended, not what humans engineered them to do and can't go back to. I'm sure you've heard the saying, "if you love something set it free" which should go for pets as well. It's literally no different than slavery because that animal is entirely dependent upon you whether it agrees to it or not since it is forced out of its natural habitat, and forced into an environment it cannot object to. It has no option but to rely on that person for everything because it was never trained by its mother to forage.
Dogs have evolved for the last few thousand years to be extremly loyal and dependent on humans, loyal breeds want nothing but to have a person to attach to and guard and love. If we were snatching wolves out from the wild and somehow instantly taming them, I'd understand your position, but dogs have literally been bred and evolved for the purpose of being our companions and us being theirs
Who is your favorite animal ethicist?
>it's because they like it.
People who have been falsely imprisoned for months or years can develop Stockholm syndrome as well. That doesn't mean it's okay to have them abused and forced to rely on someone else for food and everything else.
>Are you going to complain about anything else being wrong because of instinct?
Sure, just like how people argue about something that is inherently wrong because their instinct tells them they're right even when they're not.
>pet ownership with bestiality
Okay, then try to go fuck a wild animal, see how that works out for you my man.
So you're actually retarded, and you think it's better to abuse an animal regardless of whether it affects them? It's better to fulfill your own sick, selfish desires than to understand that you can harm an animal? You sound like an upstanding citizen.
>then it is mutually beneficial.
Wrong, because that dog is not breeding with a bitch like it should. They are not benefiting by not having children. I'd argue it's a lot worse to keep them from having children when their instinct tells them they need to reproduce.
>Therefore pet ownership is moral.
No, it isn't. Your false equivalency doesn't change the fact that that animal would immediately die if taken out of captivity, and put in the wild. That isn't keeping it alive, that's enslaving it so it doesn't have any skills it should have.
>So is following one's instinct good or bad?
Wow you're stupid. I've clearly stated that they need to be following their natural instinct to reproduce countless times. That's only supporting my argument, and showing how fucking stupid you are.
why is it always the same argument
Yeah because people manipulated them with food, moron. They assured them food which means they wouldn't need any natural abilities that makes them superior to another member of their species. It takes out evolution entirely, and many, many breeds of dogs have multiple health problems due to mutation and human interference. Wolves don't have the copious amounts of health problems like does do. The fact that they're raised to be "companions" is so unjust, so unfair to that animal that they can suffer because of it. Pugs have trouble breathing and often need surgery. Many breeds have hip and back problems, eye problems, can even get cancer. Do you mean to tell me that thousands of years of raising these animals in captivity to suffer with illnesses is better than them living their lives as nature intended?
I don't know any because I don't follow them. I'm a free thinker.
Man you are completely ignoring all the points I've been making with the sexuality of dogs, and how they aren't thinking about making puppies, they are thinking about the pleasure.
It's obvious you aren't gonna change your mind mostly because like I said it seems like part of your hate for zoo stems from your hate of the domestication of animals, and that's an argument I don't know how to make, so it's best just to forget about it and go our separate ways
>it's best to forget about it
Precisely my point. You don't want to acknowledge the fact that having pets is wrong and immoral in and of itself, so you certainly don't want to accept that using an animal for pleasure, not helping it actually have strong, healthy offspring, is wrong. Dismissing my argument only hurts your own because you lack the ability to rationalize why everything about having a pet is bad.
I'm not sure if you meant to quote me.
We have a pretty established demographic. So you're meeting the same people a lot of the times. Then you also have people who will play the devils advocate and just take up whatever position they want to play out the argumentation with.
"Over the years, there have also been persistent rumors that
Hitler’s mistress, Eva Braun, engaged in sex acts with dogs (The Wild Animal Revue, 1992c)."
Or should I say "owning" a pet. We literally treat animals like property. We say we own them like a master owning a slave, as if they're lesser creatures, yet when the argument against zoophilia and pet ownership arises, suddenly it's about how much you "love" that animal that is completely removed from its habitat and instinct. The fact that tens of millions of wild cats and dogs roam around and cause millions of dollars worth of destruction every year towards the very system humans have created is obviously a problem domestication has created. Please tell me how that is okay in any capacity.
What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
Anyone in here actually wanna talk about their animals instead of just arguing?
What's your favorite thing about your good boi or good girl? (one sexual thing and one non-sexual thing)
Unless you're a vegan, I don't see why you care about what an animal thinks, assuming it can. Humans don't have a track record for the ethical treatment of other animals and chances are you have unwittingly and at some point in your life supported animal abuse through commonly accepted practices
>you don't know what they think, and I'm pretty sure they're only following their instinct
The people arguing against your points are 'pretty sure' about the contrary.
>I don't see why you care about what an animal thinks
This is legitimately the stupidest thing said in this thread thus far. Just wow.
post sheath play
I have came here to be your saving grace.
Animals are in fact, naturally, less than a human. They are less then us in every conceivable way and manner.
Thus when you compare then to slaves, they are lucky to have such a title, instead of being culled.
Further more, why do you get so upset about an animal being hurt any way, is it not there to make us feel pleasure, be that sexually or by the release of dopamine. So could one not justify the mutilation/murder of said animals.
Finally why do you care? You are not the one being harmed, are you? So why must you come online and rant about such things even though no body here cares? Would you tell a psychopath to stop murdering because you feel bad? You wouldn't.
>That doesn't mean it's okay to have them abused and forced to rely on someone else for food and everything else
So do you want us to kill all pets? What do you want us to do about it? If we set them all free, they'll die.
>go fuck a wild animal, see how that works out for you my man
Not sure what you mean by this.
>you think it's better to abuse an animal regardless of whether it affects them?
It's not abuse.
>It's better to fulfill your own sick, selfish desires than to understand that you can harm an animal?
It doesnt harm them.
>it's a lot worse to keep them from having children when their instinct tells them they need to reproduce
How do you know they want to have offspring? Are you a mind reader?
>That isn't keeping it alive, that's enslaving it so it doesn't have any skills it should have.
If they would die without us, we are keeping them alive.
>they need to be following their natural instinct to reproduce
I like how you completely ignored the very important part of that sentence. A part that change the meaning in a big way. Creating a strawman much?
I don't really see why what I said was stupid.