How is he viewed in your country?

Hitler destroyed the German nation and condemned the German people to eternal occupation and slavery to the West. Stalin liberated the 15 republics from counter-revolutionary terrorists, wreckers and class enemies and then crushed fascism in most of the world.

From based guys view:
man who cucked commies and turned soviet union into his playground

From regular guys view:
The man who betrayed his own country

From cucks view:
the man who beat fascism

From swedes view:
the man who invented scandinavian socialism

>implying the solution wasn't far worse than the problem

As bad as Hitler

Stalin condemned Eastern Europe to slavery to the URSS,condemned Chinese people to slavery definitely a good lad for you and you red friends

mass murdering cunt

Hitler was a saint compared to him

He shouldn't have stopped until Lisbon. And yes I know about Piteşti, Vorkuta and Tuol Sleng.

then you're not denying that he was the same as Hitler, you're just ok with it

A huge faggot

These guys would crush any soviet faggot

Funny bloke, just takes things too far.

Germans love Stalin because he defeated Hitler

Thank you Antonio you are my greatest ally

Saviour of Slavic people from General plan Ost, and complete anihilation of Polish national identity.

Under socialism Poland managed to rebuild shattered national structure, despite Katyn massacre, which was ofc great blow to our intelectual elites.

We TOLD him about the impending nazi invasion because we had cracked their codes, and he just flat-out ignored us. What a jerkoff.

mass murdering sociopath

any german who admires stalin should be shot on the spot

Germans are pretty retard

The right doesn't care either way, the left loves him. There is even a leftist politician here who is named after him.

Stalin was an alpha bank robberer turned revolutionary
Hitler was an art school drop out who sperged about le joos

Krautism essentially.

that's right hitler was alpha male who robbed bankz instead of fighting foreign countries imperialist wars, while hitler got cucked and conscripted in foreign country's military

Soviet's raped and divide Germany but Germans still think Stalin was not a subhuman, Stockholm syndrome is not just a Swedish thing

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more like psychopath

Hm... The more based a country is, the more they like Stalin. And of course Pooland is at the bottom

>murderer, autocrat and totalitairan

That's exactly why do we love him so much.

Uhmm... dude. Do you even realize that Stalin actually had to advocate LENIENCY towards Krautniggers because Russians, in their rightful nationalistic vengance, wanted to exterminate every single one of them? (Look up his speech on Feb 1942, when he said that ''Hitlers come and go, but German people remain.'' Yeah, they do remain. Sadly we can see that today they are ruining Europe for the third time in 100 years.)

Aparrently Stalin's communism was more humane that Krautniggers idea of 'racial war', because Germans essentially wanted to enslave and genocide every man, woman and child between Oder and Ural, whereas Stalin only watnted to introduce communism. But he never intended to racially clense entire swaths of continent. And no, Holmodor was unintentional, you Stormnigger fucktards. It cannot be compared to General plan ost, it claimed much less people.

Countries of Eastern block weren't ''Russified'' after 1945. This was no longer ''Tsarist'' Russian Empire. They had their own languages at their schools, they had the right to their heritage, their tradition and their pride. All of which Krauts wanted to oblitherate, and anihilate.

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nobody would divide them if allies wasn't hurry to prevent soviet domination over whole country

generalplanost is a meme, although i wouldn't complain if gypsies and jewish communists were wiped out

Thank God they did that

No, it was not a fucking meme. 1000 years of Drand nacht osten is not a meme.

You wouldn't understand. Your people lived on a secure island, safe from other nations teritirial ambitions. Poland essentialy had to fight for its survival for 1000 year against Germany, and lost.

says a lot about the character of the russian

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Great liberator

Some of the most vicious soldiers who took revenge on the Germans in '44-'45 were the Poles. There are accounts of Soviet officers telling Polish NCOs to go easier on the civilians.

I can't blame them. Nazis murdered one out of every fourth Pole. Living people were used as specimens for biological experiments. Millions were starved intentionally. The old Polish capital was autistically demolished building by building. Millions of Polish women and girls were forced into brothels and tattooed with "whore for Hitler's troops" so they would live with the shame forever. A whole generation of Polish people never came to life because Nazi oppression prevented 1.2 million births. And that's not taking into account the individual soldiers' stories of hardship, many of them had been imprisoned in '40 and spent time in Siberia.

la creatura shows again...

As the incarnation of God

Were “Drang nach Osten” and “Lebensraum” just memes as well?

>Nazi oppression prevented 1.2 million births
not enough

>Stalin condemned Eastern Europe to slavery to the URSS
So? Why should Stalin have the best interest of Eaastern Europeans at heart?

I was not defending Nazi's

Why the fuck a ''unintentional'' genocide would make Stalin a good guy?Is keep Eastern Europe as satellite states and Soviet submission but keep your language and culture a good thing for you?

they were good ideas.

Are Georgian proud of him? As most likely the most influential Georgian in history?

such a retarded pic

Compare Western Europe and Eastern Europe, if USA wanted fuck Europe Western Europe wouldn't have better living standards

not exactly a fair comparison, since western europe and usa were richer and more developed than eastern europe and soviet union

If Soviet Union give more a shit for improving the country instead use money to finance proxy wars around the word and create espionage agencies around the word( KGB,STB and others)

countries like czechoslovakia and the baltics were on a near western level before bolshevism took over

Underrated

Part of the population idolized him in the 30s and 40s, however they were shut down by other parties and France ended up avoiding becoming a commie country.

I agree, but I thought the topic of this thread was WW2 and the immediate aftermatch, and not the cold war

It is a lesser of two evils, yes. Not a good thing, by any means. But haven't you read what I wrote? Under German ''rule'' there would be no ''satelite'' Poland, because our people would have been cleansed by 1960.

Imagine Portugese colonists in Brazill exterminating millions of native South Americans, and no, not by 'small pox' but by direct means. Entire villages being slaughtered, entire regions starved.

Do you understand now?

they were basically western economic colonies
once they were cut from access to the west, their wealth declined

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They are but pretend that they aren't because he has bad reputation in the west.

Like a hero who made our country grow and industrialise rapidly, and later lead our nation to glorious victory against the filthy g*rman dogs.
And he was the one who basically turned this country into a global superior. If we ever were great, influential and powerful it's thanks to Joseph. The greatest leader this country ever had.

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>despite Katyn massacre, which was ofc great blow to our intelectual elites.
Only fucking officers were killed, was polish intellectual elite concentrated in the army? Because this sounds pretty fucking stupid.

No, they were genocidal ideas. And don't act like Germans enslaving millions of eastern Europeans and aquiring their resources, did not disrupt your precious fucking ''balance of power'' that you were so eager to keep after Vienna conference.

You limeys hated Krauts, not as much as we did ofc, but still. Even your Precious Oswald Mosley said that he would ''fight German invasion with till his last breath.''

You firebombed Dresden, and killed 25 thousand people when it was clear that Germany was on its knees. I am not holding that against you of course. A clear show of power, a spectacle of destruction. A lesson in humility. And reminder that genocidal nations reaps what it sows. I am simply reminding you that British had enormous animosity towards Germans after WW1, and preety much throught the entire interwar period. You called them Huns for a reason.

You had your own reasons to stop Drang nacht osten.

Mao is viewed in high regard than him desu and Leninist party really don't talk about him.He is nobody in this commie country desu

The USA had the world's largest economy by far when the war ended and was the only big industrial nation whose infrastructure, resources and population hadn't been obliterated. They had a massive industrial output that could not be absorbed by internal demand so they came up with the Marshall plan. That's why Japan and Western Europe were flooded with made in USA stuff until the 70s, when their economies had recovered and the Bretton Woods system was discarded. The USSR was still semi agricultural, and it had lost 25 million people and most of the industry. The situation in the East was not comparable with that in the West.
Based Yugoslavia was able to develop a Socialist economy while getting Marshall gibs and giving the finger to the Warsaw pact. That's what you do when you play your cards right.

>Ukraine
Glad that now it's USA/Canada/EU pain in the ass and not ours.

Let's compare the two Korea's, both were shit and one was developed and ohter not

Dude for me commies and nazis should get shot

For me, he's a hero.

>I am simply reminding you that British had enormous animosity towards Germans after WW1, and preety much throught the entire interwar period.
And that was a mistake. We had no business getting involved and given the history of Britain since 1945, if anything we should've sided with Germany.

Cuba was a first word countrybefore the revolutiob and now is shit

Mostly government office have marx,mao and Lenin portrait desu.When i was small i used to think they were some kind of artist

That's kinda gay.

Some elders like him, some don't, young people like to make gulag jokes

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>Part of the population idolized him in the 30s and 40s, however they were shut down by other parties and France ended up avoiding becoming a commie country.

In the immediate post V-E Day climate, communist parties in Western Europe enjoyed considerable popularity and aroused no small degree of concern from the US and British authorities. It didn't last that long, partially as Soviet imperial domination of Eastern Europe became clear. By the 1950s, most communist parties in Western Europe had dwindled to near-irrelevance with the notable exceptions of France and Italy. Western European communists had a strong and lofty intellectual streak which alienated them from the working class, in addition there was a growing knowledge of Stalin's crimes and considerable US-funded anti-communist propaganda in Europe.

t. russian in Poland

>Based Yugoslavia was able to develop a Socialist economy while getting Marshall gibs and giving the finger to the Warsaw pact. That's what you do when you play your cards right.
Yugoslavia only enjoyed about 13-14 years of prosperity between the late 50s, when postwar reconstruction was completed, until the early 70s when high energy prices started to sink the economy. By the late 70s, breadlines and gasoline shortages were starting to occur.

you'd better to post your diagnosis to make people know how lucky they're to have a chance to communicate with sophisticated vegetable

Nepal is commie huh?

Some of them were also intelectuals, yes. Doctors, lawyers, industrialists etc.

It was fucking unnesescary to murder them. You could deport them, try to bring some of them on your side, like people from Anders army.

Your top military commander of Red Army, Rokossowski, was a clear example how a Polish man from family of Nobility, could be integrated and could work towards preserving ideas of your ''socialism'' for better or worse.

He was tortured, and humiliated in late 30's shortly before Great patriotic war, because of his Polish and Noble background. (His forefather was from an old family of Knights). He fought for Soviet Union, but He never forgot who he was deep in his hearth. His letters to his wife have numerous refferences to Polish history, and its etherhal clashes against Germany Teutonic Order, holy Roman Empire, Prussia. Its a miracle all that nationalism could get past the Soviet censors.

His greatest sorrow was that poles considered him a Russian communist, and Russians considered him a Pole, and a ''potentialy dangerous element''.

And for the record, I am fucking disgusted how nowadays People in Poland are trying to slander his name, and remove his statues.

B-but...

Now the funny thing is that Stalin's industrialization drives were mostly made possible with US and Western European investment. Russia had no money or technology of its own, those factories didn't spring from the dirt. For example, Henry Ford built a number of automobile factories in the USSR.

No. A Pole in Poland.

>which was ofc great blow to our intelectual elites.
It was indeed, look you're supporting gommies

in 2006 the communist party won and the kingdom was abolished, since then nepal is weird, it worships communism but still has normal elections and hasn't established the proletariat rule

>Let's compare the two Korea's, both were shit and one was developed and ohter not
Commie Korea was better off than "capitalist" Korea until 70s.

>but He never forgot who he was deep in his hearth. His letters to his wife have numerous refferences to Polish history, and its etherhal clashes against Germany Teutonic Order, holy Roman Empire, Prussia

well that's why he needed to be abolished lmao
european ''''''nobility'''''' SADLY survived, even what has survived is too much, it's truly HEARTBREAKING they were not ENTIRELY SLAUGHTERED by commies or whoever else.

No. I am supporting survival of my nation. If I had to fight togeather with communist agaisnt Germans to secure that goal, I would not hesitate.

>I am supporting survival of my nation

>It was fucking unnesescary to murder them.
That could be said about a lot of killings communists did.

Don't know what the fuck are you talking about, but spare me this pretentious, provocative idiocy.

You can only get so far with mob rule. Even Soviets understood that.

Fucking Hungary Romania and Bulgaria invaded Russia, they deserved it

>Commie Korea was better off than "capitalist" Korea until 70s.

Not really. Even in the 1960s, North Korea had very spartan living standards compared with the abundance of American and Japanese consumer goods available in the South and industry was built on a Stalinist model of steel production, mining, and energy.

Bulgaria didn't get involved in Operation Barbarossa.

Your decisions were irrational. I get it that the strip of land you annexed from Poland on Sept 17 1939 Saved Moscow from being overrun in 1941.

But why in the fuck you keept feeding German warmaching with oil, Iron, coal and raw materials right up to start of Barbarossa? Had it not been for those supplies, Germans would not be able to launch their assault against your lands.

>His greatest sorrow was that poles considered him a Russian communist, and Russians considered him a Pole, and a ''potentialy dangerous element''.
Yea sad fate

>Its a miracle all that nationalism could get past the Soviet censors.
He was probably too valuable for them to censor at that point.
They allowed his "quirks" because he get results.
Or it could be forgeries.

Yea we are taught about this, USA was less anti commie than Europe until Cold War.

Tell me. What in the fuck would Spanish do in our position? And keep in mind half of us did NOT submit to new Soviet goverment in 1945, and keept fighting sensless fight while rest of our country simply tried to rebuild from the slaughter and destruction of WW2.

Sadly, They paid great price for that.

>but still has normal elections and hasn't established the proletariat rule
You sure abut that? I mean dictatorship of the proletariat doesn't mean you don't or can't have democracy.So is it the Nepali government who says that they haven't yet created the dictatorship of the proletariat, or is that just your assessment?

pretty cool guy

and now it's a starving shithole where the average people and the soldiers eat grass and scour the fields for corn while the fat inbred leader tries to build nukes
awesome comrade

But that's exactly how Europe got such high living standards. Daddy america [rotects them so they can spend more money on social gibs and less on defence.

>гитлep
why not хитлep?

Indeed but it takes time to transition from a production economy to a consumption economy, only now in the recent years have North Koreans been able to enjoy "western-like" living standards if we exclude the chronic lack of fuel thanks to international sanctions

given this attitude, no wonder it was mostly central asian red army soldiers who did the raping in 1945

>only now in the recent years have North Koreans been able to enjoy "western-like" living standards
you can't honestly believe this
their GDP per capita is on level with countries like Haiti and Burkina Faso

I don't think Haiti nor Burkina Faso enjoy 0% unemployment rate, decent mass public housing, free healthcare, free education, access to a large variety of goods and services etc...

...Or camps where they torture their political disidents. Give it up Lumiere bro, NK is not the paradise you think it is. Its even worse than Soviet Union.

Nobody care, I guess. We heard of him in history books, and that's it.

nor do north koreans

One does not negate the other. A dictatorial regime and militaristic culture doesn't mean it's economical growth cut off from the outside world hasn't been an impressive achievement.

Jooseppi Salminen, one of the greatest finns ever to live.

It hasn't NK is still a shithole. People need to stop romanciting it. At least Soviets halted the German expansion, but NK is nothing more than a fucking potential threat for nuclear war, and has a mentally unstable midget as a leader. People are defecting from there for a reason.

there is no economic growth. it's been a stagnant stalinist wasteland for 40 years

ME CAGO EN TU MADRE HIJO DE PUTA MARICON DE MIERDA

>That's kinda gay.

Well, it IS communism.

My country is building a monument in spite of him because of butthurt Ukrainians. We also have Jason Unruhe who would personally give Stalin a hand job if he could.

the guy that got rekt by the brotherhood of nod

I remain unconvinced that there is a single Canadian worth sparing on the DOTR

They looks toward modern china rather than mao and other communist philosopher.We're a weird breed really our commie government follow equality and so on on of a communist ideology but nobody wants to follow commie hardcore[Like Chinese we're very nationalist].I think Maoist revolution was just a reactionary or necessary thing necessary to throw piece of shit monarchy.

>per cent

can someone explain this picture?

one of the greatest men who ever lived.

Russian rules of transliteration from german.
H-Г

>I don't think Haiti nor Burkina Faso enjoy 0% unemployment rate, decent mass public housing, free healthcare, free education, access to a large variety of goods and services etc
Sure, if you're Kim Jong Un and his friends, not Average Wong who lives like the Middle Ages in a thatched hut with no running water or electricity.

>their GDP per capita
North Korea is outside global trade.

Proxy leaders invaded together lead by Nazi German. Soviet Union invade Poland with Nazi Germany

Not really, most Americans were super anti-commie ever since the Bolshevik Revolution. Woodrow Wilson arrested a couple hundred communists and anarchists and had them deported to Russia. it didn't start with the Cold War at all. The US did not have diplomatic relations with the Soviet Union until 1933 and right wing Republicans condemned the New Deal as an attempt to introduce Bolshevism to America.

I knew that you were some diaspora shit

Poles are smarted than i thought.

Was he a trully evil?

Nice try but I'm not Ukrainian

he was necessary evil

t. butthurt catalan

The kulaks deserved it.

if you consider hegelianism evil

If only Italy would have been in The Soviet Block how great this nation would be now

you had block with God but you switched sides

Blame Kissinger and basebased lithuanian cardinal Marcinkus which made Woytyla pope and started external erosion of your satellite states

u be sayin

it was reference to Papal state

No one cares except for some history professor or autistic military fans. Normally when he is mentioned, he is depicted as a typical communist dictator I think.

>meds
>communist

He is hated by most people, but many older people, my granfather's generation likes him.

People don't know who he is, probably.

Some bad socialist from the early days of the ussr. Killed lots of people.

i mean this guy was a real jerk

soyim westerners dont realize what it takes to turn around backward fucked up places

t. pasionaria

Reduced wages to serf slave levels, slave labor, murdered 50 million, concebtration camps, death squads, assasination organizations, warmongering, provoked a war in 30 million dead, caused unprecendented oppression and slavery of goyim, 100% talmudic kosher.

Tell me how exactly did the working class retain what they produced under soviet rule or prospered, why dont communists go live in their favorite countries of venezuela and cuba to work for 1k calories a day?
With firced conscription with no pay aka slavery

we had the biggest communist party of western europe idiot

No he was based just like Hitler.

kek they make these in russia too?

>How is he viewed in your country?
A short violent commie dickhead but he fought Hitler so some commies probably jerk off to him.

cool guy,killed a lot of russians which is always a plus

we erect statues in his honor

But he didn't crush fascism, and was in fact quite the totalitarian himself.

He's one of the main reasons you're two countries instead of one.

>German people to eternal occupation and slavery to the West.

The Germans were always part of the west though and arguably wield the most power in the EU.

>nobody would divide them if allies wasn't hurry to prevent soviet domination over whole country
Except the allies were in a position to invade Berlin but decided to let the Russians due to expected numbers of casualties. The division of Europe had already been decided before Berlin.

>He's one of the main reasons you're two countries instead of one.
I'd argue it's more from Mao.

>puts his words in to my mouth

North Korea was primarily a Soviet creation from the get-go. Kim Il Sung came into Pyongyang with the Red Army in 1945 and the invasion of the South was engineered with extensive Soviet assistance, their army was trained by Soviet advisers and equipped with Soviet tanks and aircraft. Stalin's primary goal was acquiring a warm water port on the Sea of Japan and they apparently didn't believe that the US would do anything about it.

one holodomor clearly wasn't enough

That's Lenin you dumb fuck

Aside from that, Eisenhower also directed the US Army to block the roads into Denmark so the Soviets couldn't occupy the place and have access to the Atlantic.

The propaganda portraying Stalin as a huge, imposing communist superman were quite far from the truth, he was a shrimpy little guy with a withered arm from childhood polio and in his last years, he was suffering from vascular dementia and becoming increasingly unstable and paranoid.

He also had jewish accent.

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I'm serious
youtube.com/watch?v=poOZFKoEx9c

Monster who found eager lackeys around here

>To mark the 98th Anniversary of teh October Revolution - we are re-releasing Stalin's Speech given to Red army troops on their way to fight Hitler's merauding Nazi Invaders on 7 November 1941. Troops marked directly from the Military parade and rally held in Red Square to the Front. Many would give their lives to vanquish the most terrible imperialist force ever assembled in history.

>The Speech remains as moving ans inspirig as the day it was first given, a great monument to the incredible sacrifices of the heroic Soviet People in the Great Patriotic War, as they knew the war to defend themselves from Fascism, that the Imperialsit powers call World War Two.
So hilarious i would desert after that speech.

>nosal sounds
>no trembling "R"
>no prolonged "i"
raw caucasus accent i'd say
i'd not identify it as georgian or any other accent specifically since i'n not a pro
but nosals is common in georgian language fo sure