*kicks out american troops*

Press S to spit

If theta the case then you are a pitiful German gloryhole

That's not really what happened

Do we have german bases on our soil?

Is it true until really modern days, insulting him was treated as Lèse-majesté in France?

canada could've give them independence and remain using the union jack
it would've been better for both

yes, we usually beat up """"people"""" who badmouth le général.

>be weird autist that no one likes not even your own allies
>get put in charge of France because the Allies have literally no better options

I really like de gaulle.
He is an ideal nationalist politician.

worse than Qaddafi ruled Libya

We had a better nationalist politician at time though.

He was a racist, bigot. a literal Hitler

It's not even like that, though. The Americans wanted Henri Giraud over de Gaulle and they were even prepared to rule France themselves under martial law after the war, similar to West Germany, it was inexplicable insistence on our part that kept de Gaulle in the limelight. On the other hand Giraud was barely less insufferable anyway, so perhaps it was just a French thing.

You literally have the same opinion about the EU than him. UK shouldn't be in.

The UK was pro-European at that time, we were enthusiastic to join. It was his petty bigotry that dampened that enthusiasm and forced us to find some other course.

Fuck LDP shill

>we were enthusiastic to join

De Gaulle was a man who harbored a lot of delusions about it still being the 19th century and France being a superpower. The Soviets mostly humored him and knew perfectly well that France was a dependency of the US in the event of a Warsaw Pact-NATO conflict. He also far overstayed his welcome and finally had to retire after the 1968 student demonstrations. The guy was pretty far removed from how the average Frenchman lived and had no clue whatsoever about economics or other issues affecting normal people.

In 1961 when our application was first vetoed? Yes, absolutely. The political class was wholly Europhilic. And the veto was done in the most undiplomatic way possible. He never wanted us in Europe and we've had to shoulder the blame for it in what became a self-fulfilling prophecy.

unspeakably based
was right about:
yank troops
nuclear deterrence
britain not belonging in europe
quebec

Reagan was fuming at the possibility Labour would be elected in the 1980s and politely ask you to remove your nuclear missiles from our country.

In 1961 Labour was still lead by Hugh Gaitskell, a Eurosceptic. The British people have always been less enthusiastic about Europe than their leaders. The difference is that in 1975 they were more deferential and the 1975 out campaign was mostly a far-left affair, rather than something with broad support in the press that could appeal to enough of middle England. Despite the large majority for staying in the 1975 referendum it was more of a rubber stamp exercise to stop the government tearing itself apart on the issue. (plus ça change...)

Yes, Gaitskell was leader of the opposition but it was still Macmillan who was in office. And Gaitskell's opposition to the EEC is often misunderstood. He was on the whole pro-market and more opposed to Macmillan's capitulation to any and all EEC terms of entry than Europe proper.

it's like saying brits nowadays are euro enthusiasts because most of their leaders are, and yet brexit was adopted lmao

No, it's not. That disconnect between the leadership and the average person isn't exclusive to Britain.

WE WUZ OPPRESSED AND SHIT

Technically yes.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-German_Brigade

technically not german bases

>unspeakably based
He was right on many things but was kind of hypocritical and is overrated tbqh

Was he the last real Frenchman?

You have German currency in your wallet.

the Euro was a French plan dumbass

They planned you give you control of their currency?

they planned to get control of the german currency and the bundesbank, of course it backfired because they're french

I never said that, though I'm sure you're well aware.

Yeah I know, it wasn't meant that seriously, and I even used to live in old French barracks.

*runs to Germany in face of reactionary teenagers"

"the one who shits in the bed is hidden"

ENOUGH

...

The handshake that saved Rothschild & Co.

at least he convinced the french they did something in the war I guess

>it was inexplicable insistence on our part that kept de Gaulle in the limelight
Not really no, it was mostly the fact that the Free French did not like Giraud. It's true that the British and the Soviets (let's not forget about them) were more willing to acknowledge De Gaulle over Giraud, but that merely followed from the fact that Giraus had very little popularity in the first place.

>The Soviets mostly humored him and knew perfectly well that France was a dependency of the US in the event of a Warsaw Pact-NATO conflict.
It was more of an "enemy of my enemy" thing. France did not want to be in NATO, the Soviets were more than happy to see NATO deprived of one member. But De Gaulle was no fool, and he created the Force de Frappe specifically to resist the Russians in case America turned its eye elsewhere. In his own words, it gave France the ability to "avenge the death of 60 million Frenchmen with 600 million Russians, if there even were 600 million Russians".

No, that was Eisenhower.

Droompf's head looks like an inflated balloon.

looks like rotten pumpkin

he was a nice guy letting de gaulle in first

While France officially dropped out of NATO, everything was prepared so that France would be ready to instantly join the NATO forces and chain of command in case of a Russian attack.

Most plans for a conventional war against Russia assumed that the fighting would eventually reach the French border, threatening France in which case it would be stupid not to fight with NATO.

What's your point here? That De Gaulle's works are delegitimized because he needed American help? Do you even know the story of your own country's founding? Can you even imagine the metric (yes, metric) tons of butthurt if the French were even half as indignant towards Washington?

We're a naturally unlucky people.

Why did this fucker just gave Algeria away?
He basically gifted it to the smelly araps

you have some interesting ideas about my nation's history

Algeria became more problematic than usefull

Cool and neat post

>giving away french departments
>cucking the pied noirs
>betraying the harkis
should have gone full OAS instead of pussying out

the same happend with Vietnam, America could won easily but in the end there were more malus than benefits to do so, sometimes it's better to let it go, also fuck pied noirs, no wonder why you mutt defend people unable to find relevancy in their own land if you know what i mean

Algeria is just Indochina 2.0
youtube.com/watch?v=5iRjTdHqzlU

they were there, france has been soiled, forever and ever and ever and ever, ever, ever ,ever , ever