STARVING ARTISTS BTFO

STARVING ARTISTS BTFO.

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To be fair, if acomic really stands out to me I end up buying a physical copy. But the usual monthly dreck isn't even worth the bucks they ask for it.

Well. They're already paid aren't they. I know they'd want sales to go well so they can keep their job but they're not losing anything immediately.

I don't like to have a bunch of expensive paper crap in my house though.

I collected enough mediocre comics as a teen that I rather just pay for the stuff I actually like for the sake of having a good collection.

Want me to buy? Make good stuff.

Can you even fault a guy for not blindly buying a comic written by Lobdell?

Lobdell was mediocre on X-Men years ago, why he got a job at DC?

They get extra paid for sold issues.

Because DC is mediocre too.

A storyteller should want to tell good stories first and make money second. Quality content and wanting people to appreciate the stories should be the goal. If you make money doing it, that's even better.

>implying I'd pay a bajillion dollars a month on floppies that are 90% shit

Ideally but niggas got families and shit so. If we lived in a fucking utopia and everyone had food to eat and no bills to pay we could write stories all damn day.

>A storyteller should want to tell good stories first and make money second.
They should, but people need to eat?
Do you think people live for the ecstacy of creating art? No. Even geniuses made money a priority and passion projects were secondary. Don't be so immature.

Food was a mistake.

Bob.Harras

They get mores checks from floopy/gn royalties.

>Gotta test before I buy

This. Buying everything that is being published is crazy, and by buying only certain ongoings I risk to miss out on the really cool stuff. Also, I don't like floppies.

The "pirates don't pay" is a lie. I'm reading on /co every single Rebirth issue, and I'll definitely buy the trades of Superman, Batman, Detective Comics and Arrow. Hell, today I'll pick the Lois&Clark tpb at my LCS, and only two weeks ago I bought the Omega Men..

In case of collections and GN, even more if sold at bookstores.

You're a fucking faggot if you didn't like Generation X

Even Steve Lieber comes here to discuss his comics because he knows fans that want to support his efforts are going to buy them.

That's retarded. Art is a skill, and people plying a skill should be compensated if you consume their work.

Because he wrote a fan favorite filler Batman story before the reboot.

My shelf is filled with Junji Ito, I began reading his stuff from scanlation sites almost a decade ago.

He wrote X-Cutioner's Song, and that's METAL.

Also, Bastion is one of the GOAT X-Villains, which is also METAL.

And as if that wasn't METAL enough, he materminded AoA, which is maybe the most METAL thing in X-Men after Cable's left arm.

Con: Onslaught.

???
Or are you thinking about Loeb and Hush?

I'm talk about the filler Gotham Sirens story about the Riddler when Dini had one of his many "oops I can't meet the deadline" moments on the book.

Huh, not ringing any bells, sorry to question if that came off rudely.

>Con: Onslaught.

Well that's all editorial's fault for demanding other writers to just use Onslaught as much as possible before they had even figured out what/who it was meant to be.

Lobdell is one of the few writers that are just super comic booky and I love it

Nope, only if youre selling over a certain amount

>doesn't take offense
>is cool about it
What is this? bizarro twitter?

>Most of Cred Forums is suddenly all "WTF I like Scott Lobdell now"

This is a weird feeling.

This is the most rich teenager thing i have ever read

>I literally said this the other week
I knew I had powers, I just didn't know they were meme magic powers.

I believe this is sarcasm.

Bizarro Bendis.

At this point, Lobdell is probably self conscious.

why would he cares, capeshit artists are padi no matter the sales, they are hired monkers, unlike manga or euro artists that gets royalties on sales.

Why is Death of the Endless a child all of a sudden?

>A worker should want to work efficiently first and make money second. Quality work and wanting people to appreciate the work should be the goal. If you make money doing it, that's even better.

That's how Russo/Dini picture her. It's based around a BTAS episode idea that Dini had

Risso*

Fucking socialists

Go to fucking Venezuela

Not that user, but why would a socialist worth their salt move to a state-capitalist nation?

>But the usual monthly dreck

Why do you read it then? Just stop, you greedy ass person.

yes goy, enjoy the work, the pay isn't important, it's even insulting, hehehe

what issue/book is this?

>"Dreams of Batman in all forms pervade the huma minds."

Because you faggots keep storytiming it on here any way, and:

It's free and easy. Just like your mother.

I tweeted at Mark Russel, creator of the current Flintstones comic in response to this same tweet. Was pleased to see this in my inbox a few minutes later.

Not only is he a cuck, but he supports breaking the law. Really makes you think.

fuck off

She's a cosmic abstract. Why would she be limited to a single form?

Ugh ... Alright we get it, you are white and the poor piss baby got his feelings hurt boo boo boo

Single issues are almost never worth it. Almost five bucks for something with less shit to read than a grocery store magazine? It's just not good value. Not to mention it's all flimsy, loaded with ads, and like only 10% of a story arc if that.

The only time I buy single issues is if they're discounted in a bundle, or old ass backissues stores are trying to get rid of for a buck each. TPBs are better because even though they're expensive, they tend to be solid collections that tell a whole story and look good on a bookshelf.

t.teenager living on mommy's dime

>>DC is mediocre
>>uses a DC character as pic

What is IQ?

Dostoevsky wrote Crime and Punishment cause nigger was gambling and losing like crazy.

I tend to buy the first issues of new runs for characters I like, and then I torrent the rest. If I enjoy the story I go pick up the trade.

That way I get a bunch of dope books I can show off on book shelf, and some bins full of Issue 1's that made me look like some kind of amazing comic collector to normies and my family.

Literally any time I show my bins of comics to new people [I have house parties a lot] their first response is always something like "Whooa man you could probably sell this for soooo much money in a few years!!"

Oh no, someone disagrees with me on something!

I'm a junior doctor, so fortunately I have no idea why you people have to DL pirated comics

Based Lobdell. His comics are simply fun, but this attitude honors him; shit, the day I have enough money I'll but RHatO.

Gib money pls

>Junior doctor
>on Cred Forums

Isn't he a rapist?

I'd be suprised if half the people on this forum are working full time jobs

Remember that based Didio is OK with piracy too.

>Isn't he a rapist?
I'll buy both runs.

they don't even sell them in my country
and I am not going to pay for a digital only version

I do kind of like Lobdell on Twitter, at best he's only an average writer, but his lack of patience with "why isn't Jason a beautiful pansexual Latinx" brigade is pretty funny.

>lack of patience with "why isn't Jason a beautiful pansexual Latinx"
Well, duh. Who can stand all that tumblr scum telling you what to write?

Yes, I saw on ComicsAlliance that he basically raped Mark SJWaid

Hot.

Yeah, Plato was an edgy teenager when he wrote his stuff right?

He got in trouble for sexually harassing a female comic writer at a con once, but to my knowledge he apologized. He's not one of the guys with the full-on rapist reputation.

sauce plz

How about we wait 2,000 years before declaring some cape writer the newPlato?

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Wasn't that when he said "did you cum when you ate that orange" or something like that?
I never understood how that was harassment, at worst it's an inappropriate joke that makes no sense.

Because women can't handle the bantz and now they have the law on their side.

You don't have to be Plato to believe some of his advice. I'm not saying you shouldn't WANT the money, just that it shouldn't be your primary goal. Just look at business executives meddling with movies to make them "profitable" and how they end up bad (and most of the time bomb). Sure, there are exceptions, but that's just luck.

Ugh ... Maybe you should go back to /R9k????

Yeah, it was mostly dumb and inappropriate. It wasn't like he went around groping people. I think the woman had a right to complain if it annoyed her, but that was about all.

Tumblr doesn't vote Trump, mate. Someone can be wrong about one thing and right about another. In fact, that's most of human fucking experience, right there.

You know that existing as a male is rape right? You're lucky you aren't put in jail right now!

>Tumblr doesn't vote Trump
But they buy Marvel comics only #1's though, whose money is used to support Trump.

>Dark Night: A True Batman Story
You're a saint.

No smug anime face or refutation of the central point. 0/10. Try again when your balls drop.

>he doesn't know about Ike giving a cool million to Drumpf

Oh no, a million dollars, in a presidential campaign! That sure is a lot of money, buddy!

>This is the most rich businessman thing i have ever read

Yeah, a million buck is nothing. I have a couple in my pocket, in fact.

Nice mad, Drumpfag.

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lobdell is based

how can he be a bad writer and a cool guy at the same time? Look at Liefeld- shit artist, shit person. It works out fine.

Now I feel bad about not liking Lobdell

Sometimes people are good people but don't have much natural skill in what they like to do. Just takes a bit of training and dedication.

The only good thing about Generation X was the art.

The only people that get triggered by the word cuck are those legitimately with a cuckold fetish.

>Tumblr doesn't vote Trump

Way to miss the point buddy.

>refutation of the central point

Oh the irony.

If he was a good writer he'd be the anti- Bendis

Refutation of the central meme.

>starting a thread with a Tweet

>DCucks think Sandman is DC canon

Take it to /r/TheDonald where you can circlejerk about how this is oppression and white genocide.

You're one confused redditor.

Do you understand irony?

>it's not REAL socialism communism!

>it's state capitalism/oligarchy/etc!

>Just trust me, when WE impose it here we'll get it right, unlike every other country to ever try.

I'm on to you.

sounds about right

Yeah, it's great. Jut tons of camp and excess. It's fun.

What is this from?

read the thread

Why does reddit have an Israeli flag when SJWs hate Israel even more then Stormfags do?

Why not use a gif?

It literally is. Fucking Daniel shows up in JLA.

>constantly cheats death
>gives people nightmares

That should be talking about the Joker, not Batman.

I like this.

Running theory is that he's the opposite of Rucka. Instead of being a great writer that's a complete asshole, he's a shitty writer who's super-nice.

>he supports breaking the law
So?

If a law is harmful, why should a citizen support it?

There's a difference between an independant artists and someone employed at a comic agency. Also, it's considerably easy for someone at least relatively well off to say that shit opposed to someone barely making rent without piracy.
lol

This is truth

I-is this bait?

>Reddit
>SJWs
SJWs hate Reddit for not being SJW enough

>The fans: Good quality work sells

>Marvel: BUT MAKING OUR FANS MAD SELLS EVEN MORE

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Can't try everything before you buy it, and that's always been a lame excuse. Can't take a soda from the gas station to see if you like it, can't jack somebody's car to see if you want one like it.

That being said, piracy is never going away and the amount of people that would buy if they couldn't pirate is impossible to know. Better to acknowledge it and turn people on to your product in the hopes of convincing otherwise than outright demonize it and turn people off.

I wouldn't be a jackass and tweet to somebody about my piracy though.

>What are free samples
>What are test drives
Did you think this through at all, user

Is their anything SJWs don't hate besides Muslim fundamentalists, illegal immigrants, and men in bad wigs claiming to be women?

>What are companies that offer free samples and test drives specifically instead of somebody actually taking the product without their knowledge or permission to try it on their own terms.

Of course I did. Clearly you didn't.

Asking a friend to borrow his copy. Asking for a sip of his soda, or a bite of his food.

None of those are taking/using something without permission (i.e. piracy,) and are perfectly acceptable as a means to try something.

Don't get me wrong guys, I pirate shit all the time, and the number one reason is the opportunity to get it without paying. I get that "try before buy" is a reason just the same, I'm just saying it's a lame one in the scheme of things.

You're taking it without permission of the author, it's exactly like pirating. You have permission, but it's your friend's permission. Just like it's the uploader's permission. You're using "permission" equivocally.

Flintstones.

Who'd have guessed it'd be the sibgle best book from the Big Two right now without the scanbros?

Reminder that Trump twice stated "I don't make campaign promises and never have, I make campaign suggestions" meaning you're literally voting for the mystery box. Which is particularly bad from someone with 0 political experience, and friendship with Russia.

This scenario assumes the friend purchased it of course. If he buys a 12 pack of soda, who cares what he does with them? If he stole it though, it's just the same. Digital media seems like more of a gray area, but not really, considering you can't make copies of a soda you bought, but you can make copies of a DVD or game or whatever.

Distribution without permission of the author is the same thing. If I buy a 12 pack, I have permission to give them to my friends. If I buy a 12 pack and then take an extra soda, I don't have permission to give away 13 of them. If I buy a movie or game, I can lend it to people, but not distribute more than my own copy.

Fast food

Tumblr is 99% porn.

Reminder that the core of the Republican party, Southern Baltists, are the number 1 supporters of Israel and are hardcore Zionists.

Reminder that American Jews just don't want Israel nuked, but otherwise dislike it and its people

You can vote the turd sandwitch or the giant douche - or you can vote third party.

The entire point of Batman is that he's trying to instill fear into Gotham's criminals. That's the entire reason why he chose to become a bat.

Is he Butthurt again?

Why is Yujiro in a Batman comic?

Batman instills fear in criminals.

Joker instills fear in everybody.

I don't mind Hillary, and Trump is one of the worst people I can imagine for the position.

I do mind Hillary, but Trump is completely unqualified, even if I like some of his positions, like not wanting to start WWIII with Russia.

Jill Stein is batshit, so that leaves Gary Johnson.

Too bad, you know it's Hilary vs Trump right now.
And while Hilary definitely sucks, she's no Trump.

He also gave it a semi-good ending because his editor told him it would sell better.

kek

And while Trump has no political experience and is a serial fibber, he's no Clinton.

Third party time.

Which one started a civil war with thousands dead again?

THE BOX! THE BOX!

Neither. Clinton is terrible, and doesn't deserve to be President, and is responsible for a lot of fuck ups, including letting the situation in Syria get as bad as it did, and for Benghazi - but she and the Obama administration didn't start the war.

Do you come from a world where energy is not lost as heat in a perfect system and Africa is actually competent?

I'm against any politician who refers to Russia in a positive light. They will never be a US ally, and must be treated as a rival.

Benghazi is the fault of congress. Even congressional Republicans, after three million dollars and two years spent on investigations, couldn't find anyone more at fault than themselves.

Maybe.

So here's a question, is Cred Forums going to be more bearable or less bearable once Trump loses in November?

I just think it's been used so much it's kind of lost its original meaning. There just isn't as much sting to it as there used to be because of it.

England said the same thing once upon a time, too.

Apparently thats how batman see her.