Top 10 Comics – August 2016 > 1. Harley Quinn #1 > 2. All-Star Batman #1 > 3. Suicide Squad #1 > 4. Amazing Spider-Man #16 > 5. Suicide Squad Rebirth #1 > 6. Batman #4 > 7. Batman #5 > 8. Justice League #2 > 9. Harley Quinn #2 > 10. Supergirl Rebirth #1
Top 10 Graphic Novels – August 2016 > 1. Star Wars: Darth Vader Vol 3: The Shu Torun War TP > 2. Batman: The Killing Joke Special Edition HC > 3. Black Panther Book 1: Nation Under Our Feet TP > 4. Spider-Man/Deadpool Vol. 1: Isn’t It Bromantic TP > 5. Star Wars Volume 3: Rebel Jail TP > 6. Batman/Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles HC > 7. Saga Volume 6 TP > 8. Teen Titans Earth One Volume 2 HC > 9. Harley Quinn Book and Mask Set > 10. Harley Quinn & The Suicide Squad: An Adult Coloring Book TP
August 2016 Comic Channel Market Share
> 39.27% - DC Entertainment > 30.78% - Marvel Comics > 7.66% - Image Comics > 3.08% - Dark Horse Comics > 1.98% - BOOM! Studios > 1.57% - Dynamite Entertainment > 1.19% - Titan Comics > 1.14% - VIZ Media > 0.83% - Oni Press > 7.58% - Other Non-Top 10
Meanwhile: >Among the premier publishers, Robert Kirkman and Charlie Adlard's The Walking Dead #157 was Image Comics' best-selling book in July at #13. IDW Publishing's TMNT Universe #1, a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles spin-off, was their top book for the month at #85. Finally, Brian Wood and Mack Chater's Briggs Land #1, a new series about anti-government extremists in the American west in development as a television series for AMC, was Dark Horse Comics' top book for August at #127.
>> 39.27% - DC Entertainment >> 30.78% - Marvel Comics Holy shit
Thomas Collins
>4. Amazing Spider-Man #16 Slott does it again! How does he do it, Cred Forums?
Camden Nelson
I'm kinda loving this, not gonna lie.
Wyatt Allen
I can't believe Harley sells better than motherfucking Spider-Man
What a time to be alive
Daniel King
Based Harley, saving the industry.
Nicholas Reed
>> 39.27% - DC Entertainment >> 30.78% - Marvel Comics >with a 10% handicap on DC for refund >at a cheaper price
Fuck man wow.
Asher Parker
>Black Panther Book 1: Nation Under Our Feet TP with those jew prices too, impressive
Anthony White
How Monsters are made
Hudson Rodriguez
>the market still showed solid double digit growth for the month. Diamond noted that it had shipped over 10 million non-promotional comics during August for the first time in nearly 20 years.
>The big month was enough to turn the year positive. Year to date comics and graphic novel sales to comic stores were up 2.71% through August, with nearly identical numbers for comics (up 2.66%) and graphic novels (up 2.81%).
where were you when Harley Quinn saved comics Cred Forums
Brandon Edwards
Truly she is best girl
Brayden Watson
>> 1. Harley Quinn #1 >> 2. All-Star Batman #1 >> 3. Suicide Squad #1 >> 4. Amazing Spider-Man #16 >> 5. Suicide Squad Rebirth #1 Harley and SS saving Cred Forums god bless.
Jordan Howard
Movie influenced retailers
Sebastian Garcia
Bah. wish Nightwing was doing better. But amazing for Harley
William Walker
>. All-Star Batman #1 ahahahahahahaahah just 2
Daniel Lewis
THEY DID IT THE FUCKING MAD MEN DID IT BASED DC
Wyatt Jenkins
> 6. Batman #4 > 7. Batman #5
This is ridiculous. What even happened in these issues?
Gabriel Price
>I can't believe Harley sells better than motherfucking Spider-Man And Batman
Nolan Collins
I wish relaunches could stop selling so the big two could stop relaunching their lines every two months. Yeah, DC's first issues sell, like anyone's first issues have sold. Let's wait for Justice League #16. If that gets in the top 10 we could talk about a market change.
Bentley Ortiz
Supergirl of Gotham issues.
Nicholas Jones
Duke.
Blake Johnson
Nothing More issues just sold more than them
Nicholas Gutierrez
Batman always sells. And they both came the same month.
Colton Bailey
>Kirkman "Image will take over DC in the next few years." kek
Luis Russell
Fucking waifufaggots.
Mason Cook
It's a comic book called Batman
Ian Butler
This is cheating.
Blake Moore
Highlights from Comichron article: >August 2016 sales estimates overall may top those from 20 years ago, thanks to being a five-Wednesday month >Diamond announced the total number of comics shipped to retailers for a month (10.26 million) for the first time ever >DC's market shares highest since September 2013
Leo Clark
Yup.
Cooper Howard
Slapstick, solo and prowler will save marvel
Aaron Stewart
>>DC's market shares highest since September 2013 That's pretty impressive for being three months into a relaunch
Wyatt Wood
Relaunches are cheating too. Big companies will do anything to boost sales, anything but write good comics.
Robert Hernandez
>> 7. Batman #5 Damianfags kill it.
Thomas Wilson
Hes a C list hero though.
Camden Hill
They can coast by on Squirrel Girl and Ms. Marvel trades for a while yet, they're fine
Leo Garcia
Civil war 2 BTFO Bendis on suicide watch
Jacob Gray
The prepared it so they could keep releasing first issues for months and months and months. The rebirths #1 and regular #1 helped a lot. In the new 52 everything started at the same time, this time they knew better.
James Walker
No coasting until they change genders.
Kevin Evans
I dont think a CVII issue came in August.
Adam Perez
Harley and her main book has been really popular even in the New 52 era. The character's so popular in fact, that she got a few spinoff titles and minis like Harley's Little Black Book and Harley and Her Gang of Harleys, as well as the occasional Specials for ComicCon and Valentines.etc.
I really can't imagine how much more popular she'll be with her getting more mainstream exposure via the Suicide Squad movie.
Did we even have a Civil War issue during that month, with all those fucking delays?
Juan Lee
>filename See Delayed due to a fucking birth.
Henry Brown
>2. All-Star Batman Batman sucks.
Xavier Rodriguez
Out lord and saviour
Jonathan Rodriguez
So she's like deadpool?
Julian Thompson
Don't expect to see it in the top 10 in September either
Michael Ortiz
You'll be surprised then. Every CVII issue made it to the top 10. It's an event, it'll sell no matter how shit. Also, next issue is the "big fight" issue. Will sell more than normal.
Liam White
>No Civil War 2 in sight There truly is a god.
Eli Gray
She's literally DC's Waypool right now
Aaron Hughes
Are all DC fans this retarded? No CVII issues came out that month.
Samuel Turner
Except DC is putting out some of the best books on the market
>in b4 nuh uh nuh uh they suck!
Levi White
>double shipping big titles >movie bringing up HQ and SS even more Ehhh
Landon Hall
read
William Bell
at least he didn't spell Civil War with a fucking "V". you fucking retard
Adrian Adams
I don't appreciate how you're talking about Marvel. They write some amazing books. Even the most recent Miles issue was great. Holy shit. My mom came into my room to bring me a plate of chicken nuggets and I literally screamed at her and hit the plate of chicken nuggets out of her hand. She started yelling and swearing at me and I slammed the door on her. I’m so distressed right now I don’t know what to do. I didn’t mean to do that to my mom but I’m literally in shock from theses sales today. I feel like I’m going to explode. Why the fucking fuck are not selling well? This can’t be happening. I’m having a fucking breakdown. I don’t want to believe the world is so corrupt. I want a future to believe in. I want this event to sell well so I can at least three a year. I cannot fucking deal with this right now. It wasn’t supposed to be like this, I thought they really winning because they constantly have amazing variants and relaunches???? This is so fucked
Ayden Harris
>Are all DC fans this retarded? The only DC-or-nothing type I know irl is also a dedicated tgwtg viewer, so—maybe?
John Carter
I believe both Marvel and DC have good books. I dont expect DC retards to check out a marvel book, tho. My point is that DC sells better because they relaunched. If sales were like this for a #10+ issue then i would say you're right. Green Arrow had the same writer before relaunching and low sales.
Parker Hill
>Infinite Comic
Adam Reed
Kek breh I read both and Marvel has no good books right now. They axed Vision and Hercules which were the only 2 worth reading. For every 1 good book Marvel has right now DC has 3.
Henry Barnes
They're putting out good book and awful book like always For every Green Arrow there is Justice League For every Superman there is an Harley Quinn And, in fact, you see which sell better in those pairs
Don't act like the boost was given by some incredible increase in quality in the stories instead of a purely genuinely genius marketing campaign
Liam Campbell
Everyone knows #1s and #2s sell…but Wow. Spiderman outsold Batman…is this a bad sign for rebirth titles as they get into their 4th and 5th issues? Like
Ryder Price
A curb stomp from th 5th dimension
Jackson Miller
Now those are some great news!
Good to see DC's raising of quality, being praised by the comic book readers! Now Marvel should revaluate some things and rise their quality in their books. Enough with the countless crap events. Enough with the forced diversity nonsense. Bring back the classic characters that make Marvel big in the first place, and try to write some good stories with them.
Carson Brown
Amazing only outbeat Batman because Spider-Man's title is starting off “Dead No More: The Clone Conspiracy” while Batman's title is coming off of the “I am Gotham and duke” storyline.
Zachary Ortiz
So, since you said that Marvel has 0 books worth reading, you mean that DC has 0 worthy series too, since 0*3=0?
Jack Brooks
I haven't read Marvel in a long time, but how are Daredevil, Punisher, and Moon Knight? I heard Moon Knight is still pretty good, but I haven't heard anything about Daredevil.
Josiah Howard
God you ARE mentally ill. Vision was not axed, is still coming out. They have good titles like Ultimates, Power Man and Iron Fist, New Avengers, Deadpool (yeah, it's popular AND good), Scarlet Witch... Hell, even A-Force got a god-tier artist and now it's a good book. Are you even trying? I'm not saying DC is bad, but Marvel is more than Bendis and Squirrel Girl.
Austin Watson
I mean, I love the Batfamily so for Batman it was because of an incredible increase in quality. All of the books went from nonreadable to good to great. Can't really speak for any books outside of the Batfam.
Jonathan Nguyen
Maybe they'll tone down the Duke bullshit.
Joseph Taylor
This. Marvel is crap nowdays. I used to buy 10-15 books each month. Now barely i read 2-3 from them. Most of the characters that i loved are dead or replaced. Why bother with a company that kills off, erasing or turn to shit (because not muh rights, see X-Men), the franchises that i loved?
Asher Lewis
Every book you named is trash. Vision is axed it'll be over soon. New Avengers? Seriously what are you a little girl?
Oh shit yeah sorry forgot Moon Knight. I was enjoying Squadron but it got canned.
Sebastian Stewart
>Vision was not axed, is still coming out It has two issues left
Jonathan Smith
>I was enjoying Squadron but it got canned. One last arc is in the works.
Adam Ortiz
Brevoort, don't worry. Continue to piss off the fans. This is the right policy. Please continue. DC thank you for your help.
Blake Collins
Detective Comics?
Ryder Bell
Yeah for Supergirl being in the Top 10! Based Orlando. His Midnighter deserved way more sales. Now maybe people will buy more Midnighter & Apollo.
Gabriel Davis
I guess they're both alright. Image is still better.
I would say Marvel has A-Force Deadpool Gwenpool Illuminati New Avengers Power Man and Iron Fist Scarlet Witch Silver Surfer Totally Awesome Hulk Ultimates Vision Moon Knight
And DC Deathstroke Detective Comics Future Quest Supergirl Superman Green Arrow Aquaman Wonder Woman Nightwing Superwoman The Flintstones
Not that much of a difference.
Angel Wright
Well I mean there was no way he would sell as well as Harley, Batman or Justice League.
Jonathan Davis
...
Wyatt Martin
Only ones on that Marvel list that are readable are TAH, Moon Knight and Vision.
For DC you forgot Batman, RhaTO and All Star.
Carter Hill
Enjoy your big sales drops after a few months Captain M[arlel].
Dylan Ward
it's scary to think that these are real people and not Cred Forums-trolls
Jackson Turner
You say that like it wont happen to DC.
Jayden Lopez
Madness begins when you get to appreciation threads. Oh boy.
Benjamin Perez
Given today, DC's future sales drops might get close to standard attrition.
Camden Phillips
I'm not that user, but right now Batman isn't that great in my opinion, particularly if confronted with Vision It's a nice set-up for future stories, but it could have been much better
Jack Foster
This is not the problem Captain M. The problem is that Marvel sucks nowdays. Outsell it's not a big problem. A relaunch and other usual Marvel gimmicks good do it. Rise up the current shitty quality though, this is the main headache, so they don't drop after a couple of months.
Camden Howard
Red Hood and the Outlaws is shocking. I'm surprised how much I'm enjoying it.
Henry King
Spider-Man? Really? How cucked are marvelcucks?
Brandon Ward
that weird, the was a poll in CBR telling us that 70% of their userbase is not hype for Marvel now.
Nicholas Gray
>7. Batman #5 ?
Adrian Butler
>“If we keep on our current trajectory, we’ll overtake DC in less than five years,” predicts Kirkman, who has been a partner in the company since 2008. “Then it’s just a hop, skip, and a jump to toppling Marvel.”
Brayden Cooper
>Wasp avatar >there'll be Wasp comic >Janet galore You bet your ass dude will shill.
Nolan Lopez
She's really more like the Tick, but yes you can say Deadpool because that's all you know.
Grayson Adams
you have a terrible taste if you like gwenpool
Asher Perry
well since squirrel girl is getting he own tv show, yeah they will
Jack Collins
That's New Warriors but almost in name only.
Adam Price
I don't think it's going to change. The only thing that might spike Marlel's sales is death of x / x vs i, but then again, it's not a Big Wide Event, it's mostly a crossover between two series
John Thompson
don't remind me about this blasphemy
Jacob Rogers
Not too hard to top the charts when you're writing one of the most popular superheroes there is
Robert Powell
What does Image have
Lincoln Mitchell
Ant Man is good too
Wyatt Murphy
Been waiting a long time for these guess im not going to bed tonight.
Luke Nelson
>> 10. Harley Quinn & The Suicide Squad: An Adult Coloring Book TP haha, wtf?
Aiden Wilson
It really is hard to be mad at the sucess of harley quinn because holy shit the sales.
Angel Sanchez
>“If we keep on our current trajectory, we’ll overtake DC in less than five years,” This was the actual quote, and it was truth. Image was experience a growth period and Kirkman was talking about how crazy their trajectory was. Obviously he wasn't to imply they would actually take over the big two.
Wyatt Murphy
Except dcs sales just keep growing and growing thats unheard of.
Other than the absolutely crazy Batman first issue jump, retention has been really good for DC so far. Even then, the Batman drop was really moderate looking big picture.
Hunter Adams
Isent market share units rather then dollars. Still really fucking impressive
David Jackson
can you post the green arrow numbers, please?
Cooper Wood
>Diamond announced the total number of comics shipped to retailers for a month (10.26 million) for the first time ever Diamond themselves are so fucking excited about incressed overall sales there going out of there way to point it out.
In 15 years i will be telling my nieces and nephews about the time dc saved comics.
Isaiah Watson
>Green Arrow had the same writer before relaunching and low sales. Its not writing changes that made rebirth great it was editorial.
God dam dogfucker is writing an amazing book right now.
Marvels relaunches are never this sucesfull
Justin Morgan
Harleys book is better then it ever was diring the nu52. Admitidly it is the exact same style of humor still so if you hated it before you will still hate it now.
Alexander Jenkins
I'd like to know this as well. Never read any Image comics.
Nolan Kelly
Green Lanterns is okay, but it's a fun book with good character bits, just wish it had better art.
Nobody expected "fun buddy cop adventure" when they announced Humphries on it though.
Green Arrow sales are increasing or bucking attrition and holding steady. :o
Parker James
When's the last time a Green Arrow book has done this well?
Jose Walker
Im a little sad new super-man did not make it guess we will have to wait and see if it fell a lot.
Logan Green
Holy shit what the fuck. Guess word of mouth works to help promote it.
Carson Rodriguez
Kevin Smith's run
Colton Nguyen
That's what happen when you're by far the best Rebirth book And being a B-list hero at best helps too, since you will not have people buying the first issues "because it's Batman, everyone loves him" just to later drop him when they find out they don't actually like comics
Elijah Stewart
Dc saving comics yet again by training the next generation of colorists
Logan Parker
>4 of the Marvel titles on the list are ending
Jack Hill
nice. I've been spreading the word on this book.
These numbers are what shops are ordering and the first two issues were almost impossible to get in my city since the shops didn't order enough. So I think it could have done even better than those numbers show
Isaac Flores
>Im a little sad new super-man did not make it guess we will have to wait and see if it fell a lot. Keep in mind, this Top 10 consists of:
New Super-Man sales could be increasing for all we know, because most any of those could easily be #1 in a given month.
Jacob Roberts
Jesus fuck. I don't remember if I even seen retention numbers like that in big name ongoings.
Aiden Miller
At this rate there going to have to give dc a seperate top 10 list so the other publishers get a chance.
Jackson Reyes
I hope it's still doing well, it's one of my favorite Rebirth titles.
Landon Mitchell
Is there something I don't get about the character? I've yet to read his latest issue, but the ones before didn't really seem that great a thing. Not bad, but nothing to write about Just like Nightwing
Leo Jackson
> 39.27% - DC Entertainment > 30.78% - Marvel Comics > 7.66% - Image Comics > 3.08% - Dark Horse Comics > 1.98% - BOOM! Studios > 1.57% - Dynamite Entertainment > 1.19% - Titan Comics > 1.14% - VIZ Media > 0.83% - Oni Press > 7.58% - Other Non-Top 10 Poor idw you were on the up and up not long ago.
Gabriel Hernandez
>DC making comics people want and are making sure their customers are happy? >Well, I guess if they want to double-down on a losing strategy then go ahead.
Kayden Morris
Didn't they pull out of Diamond? I guess they won't list them anymore
Colton Cooper
Oh really
Samuel Hughes
>Catalog They pulled their trade sales for non-industry retailers (bookstores, etc.) out of Diamond, so they'll still be around but likely see a drop in their statistics here for trades.
Leo Adams
I kind of feel sad for marvel they had a winner with vision and despite pushing the shit out of it it floped. Flintstones seems to be flopping to.
Evan Parker
It's fun and I always love stories that develop international heroes rather than everything taking place in America.
Isaac Evans
Don't be. Marvel didn't deserve King. Look what happened with Soule, and look what is happening with Ewing. Both would be much better at DC
Jack Johnson
Reminder that DC is doing this while publishing less books that are also much cheaper.
Henry Ramirez
>Flintstones flopping Really? I thought it was holding steady
Lincoln Cook
>where were you when Harley Quinn saved comics Cred Forums I was laying in after spending to long fapping so i stayed up far to late. Then i saw harley quinn saved comics so i aint sleeping tonight im discussing it with you faggots instead.
Andrew Walker
Leave fester alone he did nothing to deserve this.
Brandon Bennett
What marketing campaign? DC sucks at marketing.
Ethan Perry
Im just going off what the reviews said to be honest. I know the first issue did kind of crap but thats to be expected we will have to wait for more numbers to come in.
Dominic Robinson
Why do you think it's holding steady when we only have first issue sales and it sold like 43k with multiple variants
Cooper Jackson
So are the rest of the Batfamily books flopping?
Kevin Edwards
This is fantastic not only for dc but the whole dam industry its not just dc stealing sales from marvel its a massive overall boost in sales.
Shame about the lcss that could maybe have survived thanks to this if they had stayed open a few more months.
John Long
>Top 10 books >#1s and Batman So same as it is every month?
Zachary Green
>So are the rest of the Batfamily books flopping? Tec and King Batman .
Jeremiah Bailey
Manifest Destiny Sex Jupiter's Legacy/Circle East of West Lazarus The Black Monday Murders Kill or Be Killed
Plus a lot of others but these are confirmed GOOD/GREAT
Logan Price
>yfw Nightwing ends up having one more issue selling 100k+ Would Cred Forums admit that Grayson was a mistake?
Chase Wright
>where were you when Harley Quinn saved comics Cred Forums It;s more like Harley is saving porn. Have you seen the amount of Harley porn out there now?
Liam Parker
Maybe I didn't use the right word, but I'm talking about the fact that, starting with an 80 pages comics for 3$, they publicized it as a return to the old splendor, where everything that went wrong with New52 is going to be cancelled, to the point that you will find multiple people saying that they did everything right and all series are masterpieces, that Justice League is just misunderstood
Than they made the comics bi-monthly with a price cut. Particularly the former is important, since it made extremely decompressed comics far easier to appreciate/bear, like Action Comics, while also increasing the retention rate (it's much easier to stop buying something that comes out once every month than something that comes out every two weeks)
Parker Jenkins
??? What's that mean?
Kevin Cook
Not much imo I know riley reid is trying to do a thing now but other than her no
Juan Allen
Faster Than Light Autumnlands Monstress
Noah Peterson
Everybody I've talked to who has read it liked it, the 2nd issue sold out quickly at my lcs
James Martinez
That book was excellent but just didn't have the right branding behind it. Thankfully it's allowing Seeley to give us a non terrible Nightwing run.
Michael Carter
Ah wait here we are it appears op or his source accidentally deleted idws data
IDW PUBLISHING 4.92% 4th place nice
Cooper Gutierrez
Detective comics
Parker Rodriguez
Have those ever been big sellers? I thought they stayed just above cancellation? Will there be a bigger August list to see?
Jackson Young
...
Angel Sanchez
>anecdotal evidence user Harley Quinn sells like shit at my LCS but she's consistently been one of DC's best sellers in like every format including merch
Joshua Howard
Is sex any good? I only remember "meh" feedback when it first came out
Also don't forget Beauty, Nailbiter, The Fix, they do Tokyo Ghost right?
Michael Cooper
>Is sex any good? I've never had it. Couldn't tell ya.
Eli Bell
It's not.
Grayson Long
Depends on who you have it with.
Cameron Lee
Correct me if I wrong, but I feel like many Marvel writers have more than 1 book ongoing with the company, while no DC writer has more than 1 book (on DC). Maybe that has something to do with the quality.
Lincoln Robinson
search one of the many video sites and you will get at least a full page of hits. Some cam stuff Anna Molli has a REALLY good one some amateur and some parody stuff.
Benjamin Reed
None of those are good.
Lincoln Flores
Harley really is Waypool 2.0
Hudson Powell
King wrote few books at the same time at DC. The point is Marvel wanted to make King exclusive, and they failed. Thank god
Blake Allen
Ok now I understand your point.
William Wood
I thought Soul and Erwin became shit because of that. But who knows. Maybe Stan Lee is absorbing their writing abilities to keep himself alive.
Xavier Brown
They did. Both because of being exclusive, but also because Stan Lee is a trans-succubus
Tec is holding pretty steady overall, really. We'll have to see the numbers on Nightwing, Batgirl and Birds of Prey this month.
Charles Perez
What are these about? I have no idea how to get information on them.
Parker Thomas
you are the reason western comics suck.
Jace Ward
It's kind of a slow burn but it has gotten much better.
Christopher Price
You know that thing you are using? You know, the internet? Yeah, you know it has search capabilities? Do you know you can actually find information on your searches?
Robert Johnson
>Nightwing, Nightwing, sales more thew bledingcool guy says it,
Alexander Cox
Huh more than Tec? Thats hard to believe.
Jayden Harris
Manifest Destiny is about a reimagined Lewis and Clark expedition into the Western Americas. Except its full crazy monsters and other "races" then just Native American indians. It's a alternative history/horror/adventure comic. It really has been consistanly great.
Ayden Lopez
>Nightwing still selling amazing Grayson lovers btfo dc knows what fans like
Jackson Perez
>DC knows what fans like Yeah a blue fucking nightwing, not a shitty red one.
Christian Howard
yeah at the streamed rebirth panel people were more excited about dick in a blue outfit than about grayson in general
David Thomas
>dc knows what fans like Yeah, Dick Grayson in any form and costume. If Grayson was relaunched as a Rebirth title, it would have made more or less the same numbers( especially because the story wouldn't have changed since the writer is the same of Grayson). You are greatly overstimating the power of the Nightwing brand
Jonathan Cooper
Holy shit.
Xavier Brooks
Grayson fan here, I'm afraid not. Maybe it would've done better under Rebirth than DCYou, but there were a lot of fans acting full-blown autistic over muh blue Nightwing and muh fingerstripes. And they were all freaking out about the blue costume reveal, and about "finally" getting to read Nightwing again. There was a lot of NOT MUH regarding Grayson, sadly.
Ryder Brown
>You lived to see Breevort eat shit >You lived to see Based DC saved comics
Matthew Hill
90% of the time for the past few years, the Top 10 list will be mostly filled with:
>#1 Issues >Batman >Spider-Man >Event >Maybe Justice League >Occasionally Walking Dead
>people circlejerking over the fact that a bunch of #1 issues a dominating sales
The real test is if DC can maintain this sales dominance after Marvel's 5th relaunch of the decade.
And anyway you faggots should be concerned more on the overall quality of the books, not the sales numbers. Sales don't equal quality after all
Christopher Phillips
Guys. Vaginakin. Dickgirls and cuntboys.
Marvel fans. DC fans. Minority publisher fans. Fans who climb on rocks.
An unfunny Harley Quinn book is outselling the entire industry.
There is no reason whatsoever for anyone to be celebrating or gloating.
Levi Gutierrez
>>people circlejerking over the fact that a bunch of #1 issues a dominating sales It's like you can't read that the Rebirth stuff is actually retaining readers really well and are just going back to the standard "Well they're a bunch of #1s!!!!" cry.
Liam Hernandez
It's not really just #1s but the drops for the rest of the issues not being so severe. Like JL, Harley, and Batman will be thanks to having that high of sales, but everything else is dropping from #1-#2 like 20% at most.
Hell, Green Arrow is basically the same throughout the first 4 issues and it's been said it actually went up from the first month to the second, and that it's one of two books in the entire industry that's been reported to have done that.
Jason Gutierrez
>The real test is if DC can maintain this sales dominance after Marvel's 5th relaunch of the decade.
I think people are taking to the overall direction of DC moreso than the fact that it's a relaunch.
I doubt Marvel's relaunch is going to be as effective this time. The fact that they're relaunching what should their flagship book (Avengers) with the same creative team that couldn't get it in the top 50 should be indicative that no course correction is going to happen on their part for a while.
Cooper Butler
Its also killing it on Amazon
Josiah Gonzalez
>Harley is #1 >Black Panther's trade selling this well
Cred Forums BTFO
Bentley Lewis
>Harley Quinn sold more than any other comic book in America >HARLEY QUINN OUTSOLD BATMAN AND SPIDER-MAN!!!!!! This is the dawn of a new age!
Christopher Hall
just kill me
Brayden Peterson
I wish it were a good written Harley, but eh that's how things are
Austin Gomez
this
Fucking justice league in top ten? Wtf. People like to eat shit?
Camden Richardson
Harley Quinn is officially A-list now.
It's going to be REAL fascinating how her sales will keep up.
Levi Scott
B-But we were on The View! "Hail Hydra!" & a social media sensation!
Colton Gomez
It's the second issue. We'll probably see some drops at some point. If it hasn't dropped hard by #6, then your statement would apply.
Jace Smith
Amazing
Aaron Gray
Daredevil had his last arc completely 180'd after Waid. They gave him a black costume, rewrote him into being a prosecutor for the state of New York, made his identity secret again because FUCK continuity, made Foggy hate his guts for no reason, made Kirsten McDuffy disappear, and introduced a sidekick/apprentice called Blindspot, an Asian teen with no powers at all and a podunk stealth suit.
DD is royally fucked. Writing, art, presentation, it's all dead now.
Adam Anderson
That's what bugs me about it, it seemed like they rolled back shit likely because of the TV show.
Kevin White
Any fan art of Stan Lee as Parasite or Shang Tsung?
>Your celebrity's SOUL is MINE
Parker Lewis
I did hear about that. I remember someone calling it a scorched earth restart. I have been reading some of the better Daredevil stories and wanted to see how it's doing right now. Is it really doing that bad at the moment?
Parker Rodriguez
High selling #1's are guaranteed (look at the preorders of Champions), but this is also due to rampant speculator nonsense from Variant covers
But really my point was that we shouldn't be celebrating high sales just yet; we should be celebrating good comics. Sales threads just leads to more shitposting, we could use less of that
Asher Myers
It was a combination of that and the status quo that Waid was leaving wasn't exactly very appealing.
Joseph Sullivan
It's really bad. I cancelled my subscription the minute I finished the first issue of this bullshit reboot back to #1 even though they just HAD a fucking goddammed #1 relaunch during Waid's run. It's absolutely pathetic.
Wyatt Miller
>I-it's only gonna be for that one month >D-DC's only riding that #1 Hype Train >T-they're gonna fall back >J-just you see Marvel Now II is gonna make it all better
I can't wait to see those salty cucks in Bleeding Cool, Outhousers, and CBR explain this one.
Brayden Gray
they can't blame Batman sales this time. Marvel is literally getting beat by a girl.
Luke Jackson
>Vision 2 issues left >Ultimates relaunched >Power Man and Iron Fist only being kept for Netflix Hype >New Avengers USAvengers now lol >Deadpool Cuckpool you mean ;) the present segments are still good and the throwback issues are great but can't stanad the fucking 2099 parts >Scarlet Witch >Implying I read books with female leads >A-Force >See above
Despite as good as all these titles are, they'll all be editorially required to tie-in on the next fucking event Marlel has going on and clean up whatever dumbshit OoC moments there were. A-Force retconned out Tit-Seeking Missiles, Ultimates retconned out Thanos being retarded and explained why the heavy hitters where standing back during the Thanos fight. I'm not gonna fucking buy a book that I know will just be there to advertise an event, fucking Prowler's first 5 issues are gonna be fucking Clone Conspiracy Tie-Ins not gonna buy that shit for sure
Bentley Evans
>Half of the top 10 is Batman related
Sorry can't cheer for this.
Ryder Cruz
Where did the this copypasta originate from?
Brody Howard
>the only reason why marvel's got a majority of the market shares is because they keep releasing #1's and relaunches
>dc relaunches >a bunch of #1 dc titles hit the shops >BASED DEECEE SAVING COMICS!!!
wew
Anthony Walker
Spectacular
Henry King
> 1. Harley Quinn #1 > 2. All-Star Batman #1 > 6. Batman #4 > 7. Batman #5 > 9. Harley Quinn #2 Yes sir, it looks like Detective Comics Comics is on top again.
Carson Wood
I do love that Civil War page of Spidey
Elijah Gray
Thing is, it's actually pretty different from Marvel's usual relaunches. It's actually bringing in lapsed fans and the sales aren't dropping hard like a normal Marvel relaunch. Below are the sales for the first wave during June and July 2016:
Long story short: Aquaman, Batman, Green Lanterns, Superman, Wonder Woman have displayed standard reader attrition with drops being soft overall. Detective Comics, Flash have essentially remained flat. Action Comics, Green Arrow are slowly adding readers.
We’ll see how the first wave of titles is continuing once the issue numbers for August come. We’ll also get a better sense at how the second wave (Green Lantern Corps, Justice League, Nightwing) are doing overall.
Adrian Wood
No, whether you like Slott or not(t), he's not just coasting on the success of Spider-Man. The book has been consistently extra-popular since at least the Superior Spider-Man gimmick.
Some of that might not be Slott's success so much as the failure of writers to keep books like Avengers and X-Men in the top 10, but he's doing something right even if he sucks.
I think maybe Slott's secret is he's writing a book that is basically old-fashioned and comfortable and familiar in its take on the franchise. He's not trying to make it into something new like Hickman did with Avengers and he's not trying to make social points for our era. ASM is kind of the comfy Marvel book.
Hunter Phillips
>Slott does it again! >How does he do it, Cred Forums? Basically by starting an event. It's the first issue of Dead No More.
Evan Young
>IDW PUBLISHING 4.92% >4th place nice I wonder if that will go up after Revolution? So far only Transformers and Turtles are carrying them. I want to see at least Micronauts get some love considering how fun it's become.
Asher Parker
what a strange beast Rebirth is
Carson Gonzalez
Its true that sales dont equal quality but its good to see quality selling
James Turner
>Dick Grayson >C-list
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Jonathan Bell
Its not unfunny you just dont like the style of humor.
Somebody should be whiped for that aromatic joke though.
Tyler Smith
It will be a less than a quarter of what it is now by February.
Harley is popular with people that don't read comics regularly. it will still sell far above cancellation numbers but she'll fall out of the top ten.
Isaiah Williams
He normally can't even do better than dc's other a list heroes
Samuel Green
I think there mlp comics might start to claw there way to the top after there recent general boost in quality and the huge surge in female comic readers thanks to harley quinn.
And im almost completly certain revolution will flop.
Ethan Rogers
Its fucking black magic i tell you. Thing is we all know for dc magic has a cost but those few bad titles are not a big enough cost.
Wheres the fucking cost
Elijah Diaz
People actually read the mlp comics? >And im almost completly certain revolution will flop. Doubt it. At least amongst people who are familiar with Transformers or IDW in general, there's hype.
Andrew Walker
And the trade will do gangbusters in bookstores and Hot Topics.
Blake Ross
>Hot Topics.
I don't really get this insult when the store sells MCU stuff & Big Bang Theory graphic tees.
Xavier Young
Damn. Well I do want to look into it, but I guess I'll keep my expectations low
Christian Murphy
People are kind of used to Goth Hot Topic, and to be fair they still sell stuff based around it. But yeah they've kind of become the "pop culture" store in the last few years.
They were selling these guys since last month and I don't think they would've fit the old store.
Michael Edwards
Well not top top but better then they have been doing.
I am expecting a boost in sales to females across the industry though.
Jeremiah Russell
As for revolution im probably just projecting my own hatred of the concept.
Joshua Rivera
>Snyder still selling even when not on the main bat book Damn, color me impressed.
William Collins
A lot of people actually liked his work on Batman, is a reason why he's one of the star writers DC has left, and why DC put King on Batman, so he could get fans from his Batman too.
Camden Turner
I liked his run for the most part. The only one I really wasn't a fan of was BatGordon.
Landon James
I thought BatGordon was just okay only because I thought it was better than Death of the Family.
Caleb Gonzalez
MAKE CAPESHIT GREAT AGAIN
Gavin Hall
New Daredevil is decent, don't listen to the other user. The only real negative about it is that it's not drawn by Chris Samnee.
Brandon Hill
It's just staying an objective fact. I happen to know there was a metric ton of Harley Quinn merchandise front-and-center at my local mall's Hot Topic, and that was BEFORE Suicide Squid. I swear to god, I honestly saw a landwhale in HQ cosplay walking out of there on the day it was released.
Kayden Martinez
>Flintstones flopping
This fucking kills me, I've been loving this book.
Joseph Wood
Marvel put the vision #1 in there best selling trade and it still could not sell.
Flintstones is sadly doomed.
Jaxon Morales
I'm a cartoonfag, why do people like/care about harley quinn?
Connor Taylor
Most interesting love triangle in comics for me.
But there are several other reasons for her sucess i dont have time to list as im about to walk into work
Nolan Gomez
That's cause the poll could be answered by people who don't post on the boards.
>I'm a cartoonfag You should understand then. Harley is a cartoon character in the DC universe. She's wild and unpredictable. Fun-loving but dangerous. It's mostly a facade though. She pretends to be a ditz because that's what she thinks Joker wants, but she's surprisingly clever and insightful when she wants to be. She's even led her own gangs.
Dylan Perry
S A L T Y A L T Y
Jose Jones
It's Twilight all over again but far less obnoxious
>DC put out 1/4 less books >charge $1 less >August had a 5th Wednesday >DC put out basically nothing but a couple of annuals >Marvel put out their regular books Even with more books, a higher price and a full extra week of sales Marvel still lost. The fuck is going on at Marvel? Scholastic can only buy so many Champions books
Oliver Butler
>Top 10 Comics > 1. Harley Quinn #1 Beats Batman for #1 Has 2 solo titles and 2 Suicide Squad titles in top 10. Solo movie already in the works.
This ... this isn't how I wanted to win, bros.
Jaxson Collins
Sad Superdad didn't make the top ten.
But, I am satisfied with how the first finished up and we can finally get to Clark and Jon's adventures in the new universe.
Nicholas Howard
>Normies being indoctrinated to have waifu's >A bad thing
Justin Bell
>Waifus become a common subject among normies Just end me
Jacob Brooks
Is that solo movie the animated one, or the rumored live action one?
Jack Perry
Yes
Charles Evans
I know that movie adaptations lead to higher TPB sales, but do single issues usually get such a big boost from movie versions being released?
Bentley Hughes
The month the movie comes out yes
Austin Nelson
>but do single issues usually get such a big boost from movie versions being released? Depends: TWD was popular but not NEARLY as popular before the tv show.
Harley prior to SS movie was so popular she had 3 ongoing titles at the same fucking time: Harley Quinn Harley's Little Black Book Harley and her gang of Harleys As well as several one-shots/specials ... so it's both the movie and the fact that she's DC's Wolverine at this point.
One big issue is that comics often don't look anything like movies/tv, though. For example if you're a causal who's a fan of Teen Titans/Young Justice or Avengers and you pick up a comic ... you'll almost certainly put it right back down again.
Jordan Turner
They're shipping 1/3rd the amount of books Marvel is and are beating them in market share.
Aiden Johnson
And they say characterfags kill the industry, if anything characterfags are saving DC
David Reyes
Apparently DC fans hate Harley, except if she's selling better than Marvel.
And people say company wars fags are a myth.
Dylan Reed
>And they say characterfags kill the industry, if anything characterfags are saving DC Characterfags are essential to the industry. Look at Marvel. Waifufags are all they got right now.
Jace Richardson
>slowly watch moe-ism and waifu-ism take further hold on the industry, just as it did in Japan
>wonder if there's a negative to all this, like there was in Japan.
The problems come when it starts to become ALL about this sort of thing.
Jackson Reyes
I don't even understand this. Did all it really need for Green Arrow to sell was for him to be back with Dinah? It's crazy how popular this series is right now.
So how much Marvel will outsell DC when pic related published? For how many thousands of copies will surpass the number2 in the top ten?
Dominic Hughes
>I want this event to sell well so I can at least three a year.
Jeremiah Ward
It'll be #1 if they meet their rumored 400k sales goal by basically forcing LCSes to buy it in order to get variants and other incentives. Everything else in the Top 10 will be DC though. So really, kind of like this month but the #4 goes to the #1 spot instead followed by a complete lack of the #2 issue appearing in the Top 10 next month.
Angel White
Familiarity.
See, this is why The New 52 failed. You can't just wipe people's mind. People are atached to what they know.
You can't just take a Superman who's happily married and goes to visit his mom on the weekends and wipe his history in order to replace him with a miserable Superman who's hate-fucking Wonder Woman.
Or take liberal Green Arrow who had finally married Black Canary and kill all his big family, take away his brief and long overdo happiness and replace him with a younger and hipper Green Arrow who's basically Steve Jobs with bow and arrows.
Well, you can, but readers will find it odd and chances are will lose them. The same is happening with Marvel Comics with their constant changes to status quo and replacement of established characters.
People like stabilization and familiarity. You can change things and do new things, yes, but with moderation and preferably building on top of what's known. Not with scourged Earth approach.
Colton Price
Marvel's #1's will sell a lot, but mainly because they put out 50 variants with 1:1000 incentives to inflate sales numbers. Then they'll tank hard and start over again next year. There's no conceivable way Marvel NOWer will have the longevity Rebirth is having.
Daniel Hill
You know they would if they figured out a way to do it.
Hudson Morris
You sir are wrong.
Jimmy Palmiotti being the highest selling Writer in The industry is cause to celebrate.
Also this version of Harley has been triggering people like DCWKA since issue one and that is fantastic.
To top is off Harley is the highest selling title written and starring a woman.
Yes Harley in her skanky Suicide Squad costume, way pooling it up has outsold all of the Squirrel Girl, Ms Marvel, Hellcat, Whor and Cucka.
These are reasons to celebrate.
Jonathan Reed
>Or take liberal Green Arrow who had finally married Black Canary and kill all his big family, take away his brief and long overdo happiness and replace him with a younger and hipper Green Arrow who's basically Steve Jobs with bow and arrows.
Still, Lemire's GA was pretty dope.
Austin Bailey
So no big number 1 from DC to counter this? Isn't Trinity publishing in the same month? I can see the headlines: diversity group beats Superman, Batman & Wonder Woman.
Christopher Thomas
>It's crazy how popular this series is right now. I really liked the Hawkeye series from Marvel a few years ago; and started watching the Arrow CW series which got me interested enough to read the older tpbs by Grell, Winick, and Smith.
I didn't care for the Nu52 version at all (and the show went to absolute shit).
So I was pretty hyped for Rebirth and this version is much more entertaining (to me) and it really doesn't hurt that it's easily one of the PRETTIEST books that DC's putting out at the moment.
Liam Williams
>There's no conceivable way Marvel NOWer will have the longevity Rebirth is having. This. I'm not a company fag but this time last year I was reading 3 marvel for every 1 dc ... now that's reversed. The current previews for marvel now-er looks like the mouse's answer to dcyou, rather than rebirth: they're giving solo books to most of deadpool's 'mercs 4 money' ffs! Solo gets an ongoing! Slapstick gets an ongoing! Foolkiller gets an ongoing! Prowler gets an ongoing!
Most of that shit is going to tank HARD.
And I hope it does. And I hope that death of x and inhumans vs x-men tank even HARDER. Then maybe we'll get a marvel rebirth and I can even out my pull list.
Justin Jackson
>So no big number 1 from DC to counter this? Isn't Trinity publishing in the same month? They don't really need to. Trinity will likely get 6-figure sales, but nothing is going to touch Champions at 400k with Marvel pulling every sales trick in their book in order to get a headline. Which is fine, I'm sure DC would rather have Rebirth have continued massive sales overall rather than a blip on the radar for a headline. Which when you look at the Black Panther sales, Captain Hydra, dead Hulk, etc. and accompanying press releases really just shows what Marvel's priority is right now.
James Torres
>ICv2 accidentally forgot IDW's data ftfy
Aaron Thompson
>retailers FTFY
Levi Morales
A lot of people outside of Cred Forums honestly revere Snyder's run as the GOAT.
Josiah James
>Guys want to be batman, the guy who stands for justice and fighting to protect others >Girls want to be harley, a psychotic narcissist with an uncurable bad boy craving of the worst sort and no regard for anyone but herself Could the world make any more sense than it does right now?
Alexander Mitchell
>TFW DC will inevitably fuck up Rebirth and the industry will be back on life support
Adrian Torres
By the third issue, retailers basically know how they're going to sell and you can get a good look at how a series is doing starting from there. Hence why there's big discrepancies with the #1s and Rebirth specials compared to the #2s and #3s, which are showing really strong holds overall.
Joshua Ross
>batman, the guy who stands for justice and fighting to protect others You misspelled Superman, Sparky. Batman is all about vengeance. Like: literally knocking someone's teeth down their throat levels of vengeance.
Christopher Sullivan
I'm just suprised Snyder's book beat the main Bat book. I mean, I knew he always had fans, but I honestly thought more people would care about King's since it's the main book and Snyder wouldn't have as many readers. But hey, good on Snyder.
Carter Jones
>By the third issue, retailers basically know how they're going to sell and you can get a good look at how a series is doing starting from there. Given that I'm dropping Flash, Batman (both vanilla and All-Star), and Justice League (but gave all of them but JL a full arc to decide) I doubt this is an entirely reliable metric.
However it's hard to argue with the numbers that have actually gone UP each issue after the second like Green Arrow.
Logan Brooks
> 2. Batman: The Killing Joke Special Edition HC Is there anyone on the planet that doesn't own TKJ at this point? It's on the top Graphic Novel sales every week.
Joshua Martin
>Given that I'm dropping Flash, Batman (both vanilla and All-Star), and Justice League (but gave all of them but JL a full arc to decide) I doubt this is an entirely reliable metric. That's how attrition works, user. Retailer order an amount, they have an issue or two left over. Retailer orders an amount of another issue, they have an issue or two left over. People try things out for awhile and don't pick it up after they feel like they don't want to anymore.
Joshua Rivera
>I'm just suprised Snyder's book beat the main Bat book. It's actually about Batman.
King's book is about Not-Supegirl, Not-Robin and (if the foreshadowing is to be believed) their oh-so-tragic romance.
I chuckled at Kite-Man and Colonel Blimp but I don't give to shits about Gotham and Lark.
Levi Peterson
The only chance is when they decide to actually bring out Dr. Manhattan, it could easily turn out terrible. But that probably won't be for at least a year or two.
Landon Lewis
Snyder's written Batman for 5 years since the launch of the New-52. For a significant segment of the current comic reading population, his Batman is their Batman.
Owen Jenkins
>But that probably won't be for at least a year or two. I dunno: Mr Oz showed up in Action (snagged Doomsday on his way to The Phantom Zone) and 'Tec (snagged Tim on his way to being dead). Current theory is that post-rebirth he's Ozymandias.
Isaac Roberts
we think it's Ozy it's gonna be Superboy Prime collecting
Joseph Morales
The hilarious thing about this is Cred Forums is cheerleading DC winning while actively hating Harley quinn with a passion 4 of her books made the top 10 and they are still happy about marvel losing
top company wars
Landon Diaz
Yeah the irony is palpable with the fact that the main ones bitching for years about DC not having female writers or female characters get showcased and when you finally have a female writer get the #1 book that stars a female character
They instead get mad and bitch about the fact that its not batgirl or supergirl
DC was right to abandon those fans but pay them lip service and expose how hypocritical they are in regard to how Harley has been growing.
Owen Long
it's the ending of the first arc
Jeremiah Thomas
marvel is going to be interesting when they walk back all this crazy stuff they are doing
they are definitely going to line up their own rebirth next year for sure
Austin Gutierrez
Not mention, DC also had like 13 fewer titles on the stands too.
Easton Collins
I've never been interested in Harley when it comes to comics, but how good they usually?
Parker Bailey
>Cred Forums is cheerleading DC winning while actively hating Harley quinn with a passion Because Cred Forumsntrarians, user. They're rooting for DC because DC's been the underdog for years, not because they actually care about the characters or even the company; they hate Harley because she IS popular.
Same reason they're ecstatic about Suicide Squad doing as well as it did but hate Avengers (and will shit all over the Harley solo).
John Nguyen
Cred Forums hates both modern day Marvel Comics and Harley Quinn They just hate modern day Marvel Comics more
Robert Evans
>Cred Forums is cheerleading DC winning while actively hating Harley quinn with a passion It's not about company wars. Harley and Batman selling is good. Anything selling naturally in massive amounts in this dying niche medium is good. Harley and Batman sales essentially subsidize niche books that are made for artistic purposes rather than sales. Harley and Batman are giving us Young Animal and the future Deadman mini. Tell your normie friends to buy Harley, Batman and hell just any DC book in general so I can get my artsy books.
Carter Hill
As someone that'd never read a Harley solo before Rebirth I've gotta say I was surprised....it was actually pretty fun, gave me a few legit chuckles. I wonder how long I'll find it amusing before it starts to wear on me though.
Christopher Moore
These figures never tracked sales to non-industry retailers anyway so there will be no change at all.
Connor Gray
>>Harley Quinn sells being like Daniel Way's Deadpool >>Current good Deadpool is not selling
Huh
Christian Morgan
>Gosh darn those people with a multitude of varying opinions! They all need to stick to the hivemind or by golly there will be heck to pay!
Andrew Taylor
>they are definitely going to line up their own rebirth next year for sure Doubtful: they've already got IvX and Death of X in the works and those are several months out yet: marvel.com/news/comics/26515/sdcc_2016_inhumans_vs_x-men
Also they'll be really really resistant to the idea (remember that they literally just HAD a rebirth deal at the end of Secret Wars even if they chose to more or less keep everything the same outside a few books like Daredevil).
Still: from your lips to God's ears.
Easton Foster
They are not your typical cape comic Its very on the nose humor(quality depends on taste) and over the top violence very much a black comedy book I usually like her minis and one shots more than the main book
Charles Mitchell
>Tell your normie friends to buy Harley, Batman and hell just any DC book
That's stupid. Those books will sell regardless. You should be encouraging people to check out the Young Animal books, if anything.
Nathaniel Torres
waypool is more looney tunes siliness Harley Quinn is like Laverne and Shirley not seeing the comparison outside the odd "reference" moment
Charles Jenkins
>You should tell normies who want straight bread-and-butter capeshit to read weird quirky art books. Never tell your audience what it should want, user. That's Marvel's problem right now. If they're open to the weird shit, then by all means encourage them. But forcing shit that's probably not for them onto them is dumb.
Mason Cruz
But they have been steadily improving.
Then again suicide squad should have been a lot better then it was maybe thats the cost they wont be able to do better then squad.
Blake Price
this will make everything more hilarious when everything comes down like the house of cards it actually is
screencapping a lot of posts for future reference
Xavier Miller
Who?
Ayden Torres
>I usually like her minis and one shots more than the main book This. I've enjoyed the one-shots and I'm still reading Little Black Book (which is basically Harley Team-Up); but I got really tired of the ongoing and dropped it after the first few arcs.
The rebirth stuff is exactly the same as the older series (in fact as near as I could tell it just crosses over seamlessly). So it wasn't for me but if you liked those issues you should look into the trades.
Cooper Baker
marvel's audience is almost 60% female now they have the demo info and everything so they are kinda forced to do this
I remember a few years back they btfo of the sjws for asking for all this by citing the demo info about who buys their comics
Now that they have new info they implemented these grand sweeping changes.
Jordan Hall
all C/D-listers
Adrian Robinson
>suicide squad should have been a lot better then it was maybe thats the cost they wont be able to do better then squad. I dunno: it was a mess because they started out doing another grimderp flick and then the trailer with the Queen track came out and people went nuts so they did a bunch of reshoots (and literally hired the people who made the trailer to edit a new theatrical cut). With the current popularity (and the way Deadpool did) I'd imagine that the suits will be onboard for more of what SS promised but didn't really deliver on.
R-Rated Harley would probably be too much to ask for, tho.
Gavin Wilson
12 January 2017; Sanglier Des Ardennes, Durbuy, Belgium.
Prowler's the dude in Amazing Spider-Man that's been pretending to BE Spider-Man (so Pete can show up at the same time and be seen with him; and occasionally so they can be in two places at once).
The only one of these I can see not bombing is Slapstick and that depends entirely on the creative team.
Nicholas Rodriguez
Considering that all of these are double shipping I don't think we'll be seeing the normal "by issue 5" drops until the #10s hit, since retailers are probably going to order similar numbers for issues that come out in the same month
Jordan Ross
>Prowler solo >starts as a Clone Conspirashit tie-in
Bentley Stewart
>The only one of these I can see not bombing is Slapstick and that depends entirely on the creative team. Slapstick is going to sell like shit in singles, the only way it won't be a bomb is if Marvel gives away thousands of free copies like they did for Vision. If it gets good critical reviews it MIGHT do alright in trades
Solo is going to be Marvel's lowest selling ongoing by the second issue, mark my works
Isaac Powell
The difference is that those people are just waifufags. Harley's book really isn't all that bad, it's just not what this place wants out of her. I don't mind her being a top seller. I think it's hilarious that DC has turned a relatively new character into one of the most popular characters in the medium while Marvel desperately tries to get people to like Carol and failing miserably at it.
Liam Martin
>starts as a Clone Conspirashit tie-in They seem to think that that's a good idea: they did the same thing with Spider-Woman being a Spider-Verse tie-in the first few issues.
Jace Gray
>they did the same thing with Spider-Woman being a Spider-Verse tie-in the first few issues The result is nearing two years of publication of Spider-Woman as a solo series.
Liam Reyes
>Solo is going to be Marvel's lowest selling ongoing by the second issue Not Foolkiller?
Lincoln Reyes
I still don't understand why they picked Carol. Isn't there anyone else they could have picked?
Dominic Robinson
>nearing two years of publication of Spider-Woman as a solo series With a relaunch halfway thanks to Secret Wars; another crossover (spider-women) and ... the baby.
Cameron Bennett
It's all a lie though. This is a peak and isn't a sign of sustainable growth. The last time they sold 10 million there were two #1s in the top fifty. In August 2016 there are five in the top 10 alone.
Angel Harris
>I still don't understand why they picked Carol. Most every one of Marvel's top females are team oriented. They don't really have many solo female characters that could work.
Dylan Evans
>Isn't there anyone else they could have picked? She-Hulk, maybe?
A bigger problem is that they took Marvel's Power Girl and gave her an extreme makeover that really didn't go over well with most of the fans (tumblr notwithstanding).
Oliver Jenkins
That series is a mild success that survived hitting the cancellation level for Marvel NOW! 2.0.
20 years ago Wildstorm dominated the top 10 Diamond charts (without a single Marvel publication because of fucking Heroes World)
Jayden Johnson
>In August 2016 there are five in the top 10 alone. And they're double dipping: Batman Rebirth #1 followed by Batman #1; Justice League Rebirth #1 followed by Justice League #1; and double shipping so all of those are showing up in the same month.
They did have the good sense to stagger the releases out more than with Nu52 or DCYou, though, so the drop off won't be nearly as sharp.
And current Marble being total dogshit (for the most part) will doubtless help considerably.
Hudson Johnson
>That series is a mild success Is it? I don't know anyone that kept reading it post sperm-donor personally, but that's anecdotal and I haven't ever bothered to check the numbers.
Camden Price
>20 years ago Wildstorm dominated the top 10 Diamond charts (without a single Marvel publication because of fucking Heroes World) I mean in August 1996; also Shattered Image is a Wildstorm production.
Hunter Allen
It's not just that they're team-oriented, it's that major ones like Storm, Rogue, Invisible Woman, etc are over at Fox.
it sold just fine for like 3 or 4 years and took DCYou flopping for them to change
Evan Thompson
This is what I want to know. Stuff like Watchmen, DKR, and TKJ have been selling like crazy for more than a decade now. Surely there comes a point when everybody has one?
Julian King
I don't have TKJ and I've been collecting for decades, I'm sure there are a lot of people who didn't give a shit before who got interested because of the movie.
Kevin Miller
So: >08/15 Spider-Woman #10- 23,005 (- 5.5%) >11/15 Spider-Woman #1 - 53,885 New number 1 more than doubles units shipped
03/16 Spider-Woman #5 - 20,594 ( - 0.7%) 04/16 Spider-Woman #6 - 39,291 (+90.8%) (Spider-Women) Crossover Event more than doubles units shipped ... all of those bumps are units that they wouldn't have shipped which is why they keep doing this shit.
However: 05/16 Spider-Woman #7 - 27,118 (-31.0%) (Spider-Women) 06/16 Spider-Woman #8 - 19,658 (-27.5%) 07/16 Spider-Woman #9 - 20,938 (+ 6.5%) (CV 2) Yet Another Tie-In to a poorly received Big Event (immediately after the last Tie-In Event) barely makes a difference. I can only hope that this is a trend of Big Summer Event Burnout finally setting in.
But it might also be that no one really wanted to read about (incredibly irresponsible and self-centered) Single Mom's Spandex Adventures.
Sebastian Lewis
I think it was Convergence flopping then DCYou flopping.
Colton Morgan
There's more normies out there than you realize.
Oliver Stewart
Well I guess Solo might do a tad bit better than Foolkiller if only because he's spinning out of Deadpool
But his name and appearance are incredibly forgettable and there's much less of a hook for him
Matthew Foster
Even when a book is a bestseller, it sells far fewer copies than the number of tickets sold to a popular movie. So movie versions lead to lots of potential new readers - even if only some of those movie viewers are curious enough to try the books, that's a lot of added book sales.
Matthew Reed
>I think it was Convergence flopping then DCYou flopping. THIS. Convergence was such an obvious filler move (to cover their move West) that I just noped right out of it.
DCYou had some good stuff but it also had lots of stuff I had no interest in (it's never a good idea to have that much new all at one time; and it looks like you're throwing shit at the wall to see what will stick).
Combine those to failed publishing events with lagging sales and the general dislike older fans had for Nu52 and you had the recipe for Rebirth's "back to basics" approach where they dial back some of the changes that weren't popular; keep some of the changes that were; and ship less titles (but more often and at a lower price than the competition.)
I'm pretty happy with the result, myself. Now if only Marvel would do the same (because their shit is so broken that I honestly can't see any way around a literal reboot to fix it).
Lincoln Lopez
>Solo might do a tad bit better than Foolkiller if only because he's spinning out of Deadpool So is Slapstick, senpai.
Since he's basically The Mask (and they don't really have anything else like that at the moment although Gwen-Pool's in the right direction tonally) I could see him taking off if he was handled well.
Grayson Diaz
To be fair that top ten is going to all be 100k+. Superdad is probably still in the 90k ranch
John Johnson
It sold alright. Rebirth is selling better 3 months in than the New 52 did and DC still hasn't even released all of the titles yet.
Benjamin Anderson
It sold better than what they were doing before, which was the point of it.
Luis King
>Harley Quinn saves DC >will have the first female-lead capefilm to gross a billion bux YES! YES!
I'm genuinly expecting Harley to actually be bigger than Batman at some point down the line. It will be about time too.
Adrian Mitchell
Will you please fuck off you bledding cool acolyte
Xavier Gonzalez
Fully erect
Samuel Campbell
I genuinely wonder what her character will be like in 20 years?
Owen Morris
Harley's numbers are great for the industry because we all know it's bringing new people to read comics. That's why DC is saving the industry, because they are bringing people after decades of losing market
Brody Bell
Slapstick is a pre-existing character though, he wasn't a side character created in Deadpool
Cameron Price
>RHATO
I mean, it's more competently written than before, but it's still pretty dumb, and has a paper-thin plot
Liam Richardson
I'd imagine that after watching the movie, those people wouldn't touch The Killing Joke with a ten foot pole
Isaac Jackson
First month of Tec was under ordered. The actual sales for 934 and 935 are much highher
Aiden Johnson
>forgetting New Super-Man
Carter White
>a miserable Superman who's hate-fucking Wonder Woman. But that's wrong, you fucking idiot.
Isaac Evans
Nightwing usually sells gets average or above average sales. Batgirl (with Barbara) gets similar. Birds of Prey is usually just above cancellation, which is probably why they added Batgirl to the title. Red Hood had a decent start, dropped hard due to shit writing, but was kept barely afloat with crossovers
Brayden Taylor
>cheaper price >fewer books
Oliver Scott
Between superman and section 8 the all star title carrys a lot of respect so thats probably part of it.
Samuel White
Numbers when
Daniel Young
Neither are Solo or Foolkiller. But they're clearly hoping the Deadpool association would spill over.
Alexander Reed
>Supergirl is more relevant than Superman Just
Jose Reyes
It's just the issue #1 sales, user
Blake Hall
Unfortunately Hasbro didn't allow for the MLP comics top be a part of the event, even if the creators and company wanted to add them.
Also there a 3rd comic series coming that they said is going to have a single story for older kids. So IDW is seling MLP as much as possible since they still have good sales from them.
Mason Mitchell
Monday
Tyler Lewis
>Superman >Relevant Everyone knows him as an icon but he has seen better days regarding popularity.
Xavier Myers
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Zachary Wood
Harley came out shortly after Deadpool. She's not that new.
Julian Clark
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Nathaniel Perez
The last few months, various deadpool books have all been in the top ten, the month they're showing was basically all filler in majority of the dp books especially the kelly run.
Adam Thompson
I am both hype and dredding certain numbers Please be gentle to flintstones.
Angel Myers
It's just a fad
Jonathan Phillips
This
Sebastian Walker
I said relatively new you dildo. She didn't even start being put into the main DCU until 1999.
Jose Thompson
That was more than 15 years ago
James Morales
I'm surprised DC is winning so hard especially since BvS and SS films had such low ratings. If Geoff Johns is the driving force behind Rebirth's success, and he's now involved in the films, is it possible for DC to truly turn this whole thing around and beat Marvel permanently? Is it possible that we are seeing the beginning of Marvel being secondary to DC? It's a great way to cuck Stan Lee before he dies.
Camden Walker
Remember, in comics all you have to do is beat the likes of Axel Alonso. In TV, you have to out-think Jeph Loeb. But in movies you have to beat Kevin Feige, who actually knows what he's doing. Not impossible, but harder.
Wyatt Collins
>Kevin Feige, who actually knows what he's doing. You misspelled nepotism, paid reveiws and jewconnections.
Hudson Thompson
Nepotism, paid reviews and Jewconnections are like Privilege™, they give you a head start but you still have to be a non-idiot to be successful.
Marvel comics have nepotism, paid reviews and Jewconnections and they still can't make people buy them.
Nolan Nelson
>Films >Meaning fuck all
Captain America is losing to Aquaman. What a time to be alive
Samuel Hernandez
>jewconnections and nepotism >You still have to be a non-idiot to be successful That's the opposite of what that means.