The Rise and Fall of Axiom

Ed Benes and Mark Waid on a 144 page graphic novel.

Why nobody is talking about it?

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Because it's literally just Irredeemable 2.0.

But better.

Not clicking your shit. What is it, when does it come out, and what separates it from Supreme, Irredeemable, or Astro City?

>Why nobody is talking about it?
Because it's by Waid and Benes

Because Waid has been shit for YEARS.

>Mark Waid is tugging on Superman's cape again. Well, not literally. But he is exploring the ramifications of someone with Superman-like powers, which he previously delved into with Irredeemable and Superman: Birthright. This week, Legendary Comics is releasing The Rise and Fall of Axiom, which brings Waid together with artist Ed Benes and colorist Dinei Ribeiro for a new take on what happens with the world's greatest hero becomes its worst nightmare.

>The Rise and Fall of Axiom is being released as a complete 144 page graphic novel, which lives up its name. The title character, Axiom is one half of an alien duo who come to Earth from space and act as the planet's ultimate heroes. Thena is Axiom's partner and lover, and between them, most of the world's problems have been solved. For the first time, humanity has a real chance of achieving peace.

>Don't expect that peace to last. As Legendary describes it, "A series of tragic events reveals another side of Axiom: humanity's savior becomes its worst nightmare. A Defense Department analyst, armed with only scientific knowledge and courageous spirit takes on the turned hero in a fight for mankind's survival!"

>CraveOnline's preview from The Rise and Fall of Axiom covers the early part of the story, as Axiom and Thena prove themselves to the people of Earth, while offering hints of the darkness to come.

Sounds generic as fuck jeez

Basically every "Superman and Wonder Woman fuck and then try to take over the world" story ever.

>Ed Benes and Mark Waid
>Why nobody is talking about it?
You answered your own question.

You mean the story that's already been done better by several other writers?

It's too bad comic book mashups are unwieldy and/or time consuming. I'd see if it's impossible to take dialogue from Irredeemable and paste it over the text in the Axiom preview.

>"Superman and Wonder Woman fuck and then try to take over the world"
Why is that a thing? WHY THE HELL IS THAT A GODDAMNED THING?

>Why nobody is storytiming it?
ftfy

> he is exploring the ramifications of someone with Superman-like powers
> a new take on what happens with the world's greatest hero becomes its worst nightmare.

That is what would happen if the two hottest people in the world fucked: they would inevitably try to conquer the planet.

This sounds boring and generic as fuck.

.... Wh-NO IT ISN'T. They would just fuck, fuck some more, eventually realize they have no chemistry, and break up.

Also
>Diana and Clark
>two hottest people in the world
Hell no.

I, for one, welcome email our new fuckable overlords.

>they broke up
RIP in peace.

Now for Batman/Wonder Woman to take hold.

I liked them together desu

>Trinity shipping
End yourself.

The idea is basically that Superman and Wonder Woman are the best at everything. They're the most good looking people in the world, they're the strongest beings in the world, they're the most virtual people in the world, they're the most important people in the world.

So if they ever got intimate they'd with time get the idea that they simple know better than everyone about everything, making them desire to take over the world, because they know what's better for everyone, thus make an utopia where they can share their happiness with the entire world.

Because that's what happens when you get two egotistic together and have them interact alone in their echo chamber.

This is basically Batman v Superman if it were written by Waid. Not a good idea.

>The idea is basically that Superman and Wonder Woman are the best at everything. They're the most good looking people in the world, they're the strongest beings in the world, they're the most virtual people in the world, they're the most important people in the world.
But absolutely none of that is true.

>Because that's what happens when you get two egotistic together and have them interact alone in their echo chamber.
Neither Diana nor Clark are egotistical. user, go to bed.

Is this Waid's response to Injustice?

No, that's is his Superman: Red Son. Or his Injustice: Gods Among Us. Or his Kingdom Com-OH WAIT...

>But absolutely none of that is true.

But that's what DC believes or at least the idea that they want to sell when they pair Superman with Wonder Woman.

There's a reason Superman/Wonder Woman is called the POWER Couple.

You pair two absolute paragons and it's inevitable that they'll try to remake the world in their image.

Hey this guy did Harbingers first 6 issues, I can dig it. I'll check it out I like his work.

>You pair two absolute paragons and it's inevitable that they'll try to remake the world in their image.
No it's not. Where the fuck is this retarded idea coming from?

DC.

It's not so much that it's an inevitability and more that there is a fear of such an event.

Imagine if two gods came down from the heavens, right outside your window, and then started boinking while everybody was watching. THEN imagine that in the post-coital afterglow, they began discussing how cool it would be to shift the continents to spell out their names.

You've never actually had sex, have you?

No, but I saw a YouTube video once and it seems pretty easy. You just have to put your thing inside of her thing and then leave it in there for a few minutes.

Is less about the sex, user, and more about Superman and Wonder Woman thinking they're hot shit who can do anything and feeling like sharing their bliss with the entire world, be it if they like or not, because again SM and WW can do anything, specially when together. Who will oppose them, fucking Batman?

Deconstruct the Superhero Paradigm! *unf unf*

>it's another what if Superman/(NOT)Superman turns evil episode
*slow clap*
Brava, Waid. Brava. You are so goddamn original. Did it take you all morning to come up with that idea? Did you pay yourself on the back when you had this original never-ever-done-before idea? Man, Marvel is so lucky to have you as part of their House of Ideas.

The Rise and Fall of Axiom (2016) (digital OGN) (Minutemen-LyingCat)
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This just proves that The Cereal King is, genuinely and horrifyingly, an unimaginative and non-creative writer, using simply trope-style writing to generate stories.

Yes, it was DC as this user states but that's because it was from DC's shittiest staff writer.

This just makes it sound like he had some ideas for Irredeemable that didn't make it into that book so he recycled them for a new book

in b4 240MB of dolphin porn

Not Kingdom Come and its JSA tie-in gave them a happy ending with kids and grandkids.

And now they are both dead. Superbro killed by DC so that Superdad can reenter the scene. And Wonder Woman dead so that Rcuka's can have his Wonder Woman that acts like a retarded Starfire.

You can't blame Geoff Johns for this alone. This is a trend that began years ago ironically enough with Mark Waid himself.

In Waid's "Kingdom Come" Wonder Woman acted as a harpy goading Superman to act against the new metas and become more and more extremist in his actions.
Then you've Frank Miller's "The Dark Knight Strikes Again" where Wonder Woman forces Superman to man up and fight for their secret daughter, right after with them fucking and killing tons of people with their humping.
Mark Millar's "Superman: Red Son" where communist Superman politically married Wonder Woman and decided to spread the influence of communism throughout the world.
And of course "Injustice: Gods Among Us", where Wonder Woman influenced Superman in "saving the world".
Even in less controversial stories like Darwyn Cooke's "DC: The New Frontier" you've Wonder Woman goading to take a more proactive stance.

So no, it isn't far to blame Geoff Johns alone.

Dude, Wonder Woman in KC was a ruthless bitch that stood on Superman's shoulder like a snake telling him to be more and more extremist in his attempt to take the world back from the edgy new metas. All because she was pissed off about being seen as a failure by her amazons and end up without her ranking and privileges among them.

She wanted even to kill the meta prisoners in the Gulag and wouldn't stop the war despite all the carnage. It took a geriatric Batman to dorm his armor and face her directly to finally talk her down and instill some sense.
Superman as well only stopped after Billy sacrificed himself to save all of them from pure Armageddon.

Brian Azzarello's Wonder Woman was a totally different character from Justice League and Superman/Wonder Woman, Action Comics, Superman, Batman/Superman's Wonder Woman. Azzarello was even against SM/WW.

I think that the only Elseworlds where SM/WW don't become dictators are DC: The New Frontier, Superman: Distant Fires and JLA: Act of God.

And the book finally finished downloading. Jesus Christ, that took forever.

BRB, gonna skim through the end and see what happens. Let's see if he does that one thing he did before and imply that Axiom inspired two boys to create Superman.

>non-creative and unimaginative

If Johns has to use ideas (albeit crappy ideas) used by writers (e.g. Frank Miller and Waid, since Miller isn't particular original either), he certainly qualifies as non-creative and unimaginative. That's what I am faulting Johns for (and any other writer doing this IN UNIVERSE.

In any event, you're also listing elseworlds, particularly Red Son, Injustice: Gods Among Us, and Kingdom Come essentially is as is TDKSA.

He's using simplistic tropes (e.g. Barry Allen needs motivation to be a hero, his mother is killed by someone who only becomes one of his biggest enemies BECAUSE the murder of Nora motivates Barry to being heroic once he is 'picked' by the speed force, the same speed force that ends up power his enemy that kills his mom); if he was a better writer, he wouldn't resort to crap like that, whether or not he was the first person to use it or not, and his secondary mistake was using it in universe, so notwithstanding what else happens with Clark and Diana, people can point to that particular page and claim that it represents New 52 Superman and Wonder Woman.

...

Okay, so skimming through, here's a brief recap.

You have Axiom and Thena living together in harmony and whatnot, until one day human error causes some kind of wormhole to happen. The two solve the problem, but Thena is sucked into the wormhole. Some kind of Super-Nazi is introduced as the main antagonist to Axiom, and during one Super-Nazi plot Axiom saves a redhead waitress who reminds him of Thena. They date, they bang, and people hate the new girl (Victoria) because people aren't over the death of Thena yet. A bunch of dramatic shit happens, Victoria takes to drinking, turns out Axiom is a shape-shifting alien, one of Axiom's government buddies pisses off Axiom and calls for Code Omega, and then Axiom laser-blasts some dictator in the face with laser vision and stops a war with a giant crater in the ground. Axiom stops shifting his face and goes full Hitler. Six months pass, and people start putting some kind of a plan to stop Axiom, involving some kind of an exo-suit or some shit like it's "The Dark Knight Returns". There's a twist where Victoria lost the ability to feel fear, and another twist where whoever the guy that is fighting Axiom was the first person that he had ever saved after coming to Earth.

The story ends with the Axiom and the other guy talking out their problems, and then Axiom leaves Earth. The epilogue is that Axiom warned the other guy of some kind of invasion, aka SEQUEL HOOK.

Pic related; it's Axiom going back to his home planet.

So how does Axiom look in his default state? Why didn't he bother finding Thena?

This sounds a lot like that other shitty comic Waid did.

Here's the face reveal.

As for finding Thena, I guess he assumed it was a lost cause.

Honestly, I almost feel like you could replace X character from "Axiom" with Y character from DC Comics and you could have a scrapped pitch for an Elseworlds. Axiom is Superman, Thena is Wonder Woman, Victoria is Lois Lane, and Army Guy is Batman.

A better money shot of Alien Axiom. Also, I guess the army dude's name is Kyle. The redhead is Victoria.

Wouldn't it had been more accurate to call him a Martian Manhunter clone instead?

Probably. But nobody wants to read about a Martian Manhunter analogue.

It's not an original-seeming idea, but at the same time Waid is a consistently entertaining writer. I suppose that in execution this could be a fun story to read. Like, I love the original Evil Dead movies and was able to enjoy the reboot. I loved the original Robocop movies (well, the first two) and enjoyed the reboot. It's possible to do variations on the same story over and over again and have the new variations be fun in their own way.

Don't get me wrong, I wish Waid would do something original instead, but I have enough faith in him as a storyteller that this could be enjoyable even if it's obviously derivative.

That tits.

Benes still have the gift.

Not entirely; Martian Manhunter doesn't have laser vision. If anything it's Superman with Martian Manhunter's makeup kit.

Alternatively, it's Mark Waid's take on Aaron Diaz's take on Superman. Pic related.

It could be enjoyable. I'm not hiding that I only skimmed the story. It wasn't until a few minutes ago that I found out the army guy's name.

However, it almost seems as though Mark Waid making a story where a Superman analogue goes rogue is an annual occurrence.

Agreed. Have a Victoria.

And another one.

>Not entirely; Martian Manhunter doesn't have laser vision.

Based J'onn doesn't need the laser vision. He has the superior Martian Vision!!! And TK. Actually he can solo the JL when it's not jobbing.

Nope, you moron.
If you'd have even bothered to read the OP's link instead of only looking at the picture like a monkey, you'd know it's actually "Superman and Wonder Woman show up, become superheroes, and save the world a bunch or times, but stupid humans start taking greater and greater risks until the scientists do something stupid enough to get Wonder Woman killed and Superman goes on a rampage of revenge"

I was on the eigth page and Waid can stop beign a cuck. At least wasn't a nigger.

Here's some Thena.

Hey, wait a minute:
>Thena
>A-Thena
>Athena
>Greek goddess
>Greece
>Grecian Amazons
>Amazons
>Wonder Woman

Oh my god.

It already came out, like two weeks ago. I flipped through it at my LCS but didn't get it.

No inker, so the lines aren't as nice as you might expect.

>Martian Manhunter doesn't have laser vision.

Oh, whoops. My bad.

Still, I'm going to assume Axiom is a Superman analogy. Mostly because the face reveal is a mid-game twist.

I read it. It was ok.

I was confused. The form Waid always understand Superman is this boy how one day finds his powers and become something diferent. Someone how is always alone in his unique form to see the World. And who never, never will be like us. That Clark Kent is the costume, and Superman is the real person.

But in this aproach, Axiom cracks because he never had the human rise background. And somehow put it like the thing who makes him what it is. And also the degenerative mind.

>No inker, so the lines aren't as nice as you might expect.

Yeah, I noticed there was something weird with the art, why Benes didn't make one his students ink it for him?

Man OP this shit would have been flat out revolutionary IN NINETEEN GODDAMNED SEVENTY

Is that nipple?