Find a flaw

Bartok wasn't the main character.

The theatrical adaptation that removes Rasputing and magic from the movie.

>Dimitri is ugly

The ultimate pleb taste.

Bartok got a spin-off movie that showed this is a bad idea

He got his own movie though

The spin off was great though desu

I bought the double dvd pack of this and the Bartok movie, but it has since disappeared into the pocket dimension where shit goes when it's not where it's supposed to be.

Absolutely based

Rasputin could have been more evil, more nightmare fuel. give me something along the lines of the boat scene from All Dogs.

The ending seemed a bit rushed.

But the designs, characters, and songs are all top tier in my book.

Don't forget raped.
Really the only good things bolsheviks ever did was rape and murder the entire romanov family.

>Romanticism the Romanoffs

I don't remember any evidence of that.

But of course, I can't imagine it DIDN'T happen.

>the villain's song
Hey now Dark of the night was one of the few good things about the movie

>considering that a flaw

Nah, the theatrical adaptation is what the animated film should have been, since it doesn't involve a cartoonish Disney-style villain. I love In the Dark of the Night and zombie Rasputin has his moments, but it was so much more interesting to see the story play out as a more realistic historical 'what if.'

I do miss In the Dark of the Night, but at least they incorporated it into the show in several ways.

>brutally slaughtered
Everyone universally loathed Tsarism. People didn't look upon Tsarism positively until after the fact. No-one mourned the Romonovs when they died.

Also, the execution of the Romonovs occured because the area they were being interned was being pressured by White counterrevolutionary forces. It wasn't sanctioned by the central government, and like the majority of the Red Terror was a local affair.

You know it

There's no evidence it happened. People assumed it may have happened with the grand duchesses (minus Maria) were either left alone when their parents+Maria went to Ipatiev, or during the transfer to Ipatiev. But like with the possibility that Marie Antoinette's daughter was raped when she was left alone in captivity and wrote about being harassed by guards at all hours of the night, it's not something we'll ever know.

They didn't make the movie about Rasputin's massive dick

>Everyone universally loathed Tsarism
Except for the whites

Is... is that his dick?

Rasputin wasn't a tragic hero, upholding a flawed system of government even as he tries, ineffectually, to convince the rulers to change for the better, only to be brutally murdered.
....
And then come back as a lich who takes over Russia and leads it as an all-loving, Christian necrocracy with a positive song about life after dead.

Boring and try to hard to be like a Disney movie, the only good park was in the dark of the night.

>try to hard to be like a Disney movie
this is literally the last thing Bluth would do.

Supposedly.

purportedly.

Yes

Yet he did it

Probably the most forgettable animated film of all time.

Although I'm still torn on how they changed Anya and Dimitri's connection, although I can't see how they'd be able to do it now that the story is more historically accurate (revolution happens as it historically did, family is eventually taken to Ipatiev where they are shot rather than the "mob on the palace and Anya and the Empress escape through the secret door Dimitri opens").

>I can't see how they'd be able to do it now that the story is more historically accurate

then they shouldn't have done it at all?

Like, was /ANYBODY/ clamoring for an idealized, magical retelling of the Romanoffs?

>Like, was /ANYBODY/ clamoring for an idealized, magical retelling of the Romanoffs?
People who really hated communism?

>then they shouldn't have done it at all?

Why? Every adaptation changes things for various reasons, including practicality and new narrative choices. All I said was I don't see how they could work in the original connection between Dimitri and Anya back into the story because of how they made the show more historically accurate, so Dimitri helping Anastasia and the empress escape from the palace can't happen.

>Like, was /ANYBODY/ clamoring for an idealized, magical retelling of the Romanoffs?

The theatrical adaptation isn't magical, nor is it idealized? It actually criticizes both the Romanov regime and the communist regime. And makes fun of the former aristocrats who are desperate to relive the "good old days" of imperial Russia in Paris.

>theatrical adaptation isn't magical, nor is it idealized
There is LITERALLY A MAGIC LICH with TALKING, SINGING BUGS AND BATS who sends DEMONIC SHADOW MONSTERS to attack the heroes!
Are you stupid!?

As with all Bluth movies he favors visuals over pacing and filling the movie up with too many music numbers (although this movie actually has good ones)

Still love Bluth and All Dogs actually IS flawless, but this is why he kinda butchered Secret of NIMH if you've ever read the book. He just replaced important parts of the story with "wooo magic follow your heart"

Honey... the theatrical adaptation doesn't have any of those things.

Wait, fuck, you were... goddammit
Sorry, I work in a fucking movie theater, so "theater" automatically translates into "film" in my head.

Lol, it happens.

But, yep, no magical elements in the stage version. Just the "ghosts" who show up in Once upon a December/Anya's nightmare/the backgrounds of certain scenes.

Bluth's Nimh is great if you let it stand alone. But reading the book is far more satisfying in the end.

>Everyone universally loathed Tsarism
Doesn't mean you have to kill a bunch of girls and an haemophiliac boy. Ostracism would be more than enough.

It's one of the most remembered non-Disney animation films of all time.

How so? Is it the magic and talking bat or the fact that the real Anastasia died?

THE BAT

...

>But reading the book is far more satisfying in the end.

Definitely, NIMH was my all time favorite movie growing up but when I read the book, then watched the movie, the parts that were left out made it so much less gratifying. The entire point of the story is lost.

her features and voice are too masculine

she is russian you fucking weeb

this is black widow origin?

but russian women are more feminine than germanic ones. germanic women have man jaws, russians don't, yet she has a man jaw

>the villain's song.

U wot? In the dark of the night is the most solid song in the movie. The animation that goes WITH the song takes it down a few notches, sure, but it's still the best.

Listening to just the song I really can't believe they made the back-up voices into fucking bugs. They sound completely like wailing ghosts and corpses.

No. The Whites, despite being de facto monarchists (their position on the issue is vague), refused to outright explicitly support the Tsar, and whenever possible, they would avoid confronting the issue. Many White counterrevolutionaries were ex-socialists, something that's actually commonplace among reactionaries in general (ie Mussolini used to be a Communist). The Black Hundreds, who were the proto-fascist paramilitary (basically only proto-fascists supported the Tsar) organization that supported the Tsar, Tsarism, and all that necessarily entailed, were in fact critical of the Whites for not being openly monarchist.

No it wouldn't. Politically, the royal family would always pose a problem of legitimacy. If they continued to exist, foreign countries would use have them as a political tool.

Their demise was inevitable the moment Nicholas decided that he could dissolve the Duma (the parliament established in the aftermath of the February Revolution) whenever he wanted.

>February Revolution
Woops, I meant the 1905 Revolution.

I wouldn't say inevitable, the army was still pro-tzarist until WW1, it's only in the February revolution when Petrograd is starving and the garrison regiments don't want to go to the front to be used as target practice like the couple of million men beforehand, that the regime looses it's last leg of support.

I only like it for Sophia and that one unnamed chick who shows her panties

>If they continued to exist, foreign countries would use have them as a political tool.

Royal family members did survive, even males who were legitimate heirs. No one bothered to use them.

The entire family, daughters and wife included, was killed because, to paraphrase Trotsky, it sent a message both to their enemies and to the party itself: there is no turning back.

It's 90s Don Bluth back when he started sucking Disney's cock despite being known as the anti-Disney a decade earlier.

Where is the panty shot?

youtu.be/Qxju05tBuLM?t=7

And why is that? That's exactly what he did. Bluth is a great animator but he wasn't exactly shaking the foundations.

Bakshi put it best "Why would you leave Disney to do Disney?"

The main anatgonist has been dead for decades. He easnt even arouns during thr coup.

Too much censorship during development.

>The main anatgonist has been dead for decades. He easnt even arouns during thr coup.
>dead for decades
>He easnt even arouns during thr coup.

Rasputin died in 1916, just a few months before the February Revolution. The film takes place in 1926, not decades later. And he's a zombie in the film so.