Fucking future vision, how does it work?

It's just a plot device.
It works only when Rebecca or anyone remember it exists, but even then they can ignore It existing if it seems problematic to the plot.

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garnet is a full blown reality actuary rather that just dedicated to business models

That really makes it sound like she sees ALL futures and which are most likely to happen. Sort of like Eldar Farseers if you're into Warhammer 40K.

She does. She sees all possibilities for the near future and how likely they are, but can never know which will play out for sure.

Going by Future Boy Zoltron it's limited by what the Future Sight person knows of the people they're seeing the future about.

For instance, Steven couldn't predict a happy reunion between Mr. Smiley and Mr. Frowny, because he had never seen Mr. Frowny so much as smile.

Intense calculation on results based on the observed world.
The view and expectations of cause and effect to an extreme detail.

The gems themselves are retardedly primitive by their own species' standards

this could have all been avoided by just ignoring earth after they lost the war

That one guy in this thread tried so, so fucking hard to get a (you), jesus christ.

It's powered by plot, and exists whenever the plot demands it.

This is why she can be surprised, just because a particular future is most probable it doesn't mean that's the one they get.
Look at Hit the Diamond, she saw that the baseball game was a possibility but it didn't seem like it had a high probability of happening. But the universe is chaotic and some of the time it can, to use an apt metaphor, throw them a curveball.

If it includes alternate past decisions? Almost infinitely.
If it's based on alternate ways a current moment happens?
There could be hundreds, maybe thousands of ways, many similar, but some very different.
It must be rather overwhelming.

It works how the writers want it to.

Sometimes Garnet can predict exactly what will happen, sometimes she wont even mention the possibility of something going wrong.

Where the hell was she with Bismuth huh? Why didn't she see the encounter her and Steven had? Even if it was only a possibility, it's hard to imagine she would let Steven go into the forge alone with Bismuth, considering he could have easily been killed.

She can't see future events that she's not around for at the time they happen.
And she's clearly got a limit on how far forward she can look.

She could see into the future to the point where Steven was telling the CG's that Bismuth almost killed him in the forge right after it happened.

Even in their cute little song with Stevonnie, it's shown that Sapphire IS overwhelmed.

She sees all of the futures, every possibility, lined up before her. All the good, all the bad, and all of the people she knows meeting terrible fates if things aren't done a certain way.

When she's not fused, she's incredibly stoic when not in Ruby's presence, since powers like hers are so emotionally draining.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say she has a harder time "turning it off" when she's not fused. Combined with Ruby's passion for the now, Garnet can actually focus more and live in the present and only use her Future Vision when she wants to. Maybe that's why she has a hard time being apart from Ruby, together they can live and love in the moment instead of constantly looking into the future.

Like all Gem powers, it works off the power of plot and poor writing.

If she can't turn it off, I'll assume she saw what happened as a POSSIBLE future, but chose to ignore it, both because she refused to believe a trusted friend would do what she did, and in the unlikely event things went down that route Steven was able to handle it on his own.

If she uses her powers at will, she didn't see it because she even bother looking for Bismuth doing something bad. It's been shown before that if she doesn't know what to look for she won't find it (eg specifically looking for evidence of Peridot fixing the tower, but being unable to find that future since it wasn't Peridot even doing it)

Is it that hard to believe? I imagine a bunch of Garnets future visions about Bismuth involved her going too far, considering how aggressive her personality is.

Also, if you want to get technical, if Garnets future vision could pick up Steven telling the CG's about Bismuths attack, she'd probably also see Steven talking about the breaking point as something that actually exists, and that's not something you can wave away by going "oh Bismuth wouldn't attack Steven, this future is just too small a percentage to be true" Garnet should KNOW that Steven would absolutely reject using such a weapon, making that future seem a lot more certain in her eyes.

Garnet may not have been searching for future visions about Bismuth being violent, but it seems normal procedure for her to use it to make sure that Steven will be safe, which he wasn't here.

>She could see into the future to the point...
Again, it might not go that far. Farthest we've seen her see is like an hour.

Wasn't the first future vision episode set over like, a full day? And Garnet new from the first point she told Steven about future vision that he could potentially have been struck by lightning on the roof after having a paranoid breakdown?

As well as when Sapphire is using future vision during Keystone motel and can apparently see to the point where Garnet has already forgiven Pearl, or at least a version where she had, which likely would have taken more than a day to occur ((though this raises a further question as to why Sapphire didn't see up to the argument that her, Steven and Ruby had after the diner scene and realized she wasn't paying enough attention to everyone feelings at the present time.))

I'd say her future vision can go for a time period of at least 12 hours, which probably would have been enough time for Garnet to have seen Steven telling them about Bismuth and go to the forge before the fight happens.

I feel like the "don't go on the roof" part was later in the afternoon, but I might be remembering it wrong.

She pretty much says that she knew that this future was a risk that she was willing to make in order to bring them closer together, which, to me at least, implies she knew about the roof incident.

Yep. Seems like the only time they remember it exists is when a character needs to cry but not for shit like actual impeding threats or danger.

It works better if you think of it less as actual vision into the future and more as extremely accurate predictive analysis.

>It doesn't work with factors she wouldn't consider, like Pearl lying to her in Cry For Help
>It doesn't work with factors she doesn't know about or understand, like the destabilizer in The Return
>Diving into speculation, it could explain why Sapphire did not foresee her fusion with Ruby, since while she can understand tactics, battle plans, and gem thought processes, something like infatuation seems like a foreign concept to Homeworld

It would be nice if something like this was confirmed in the show though, since as is, we have a power that can only be properly explained through speculation.

i love SU
that said
garnets "future vision" is the dumbest fucking shit ever
she can see different possibilites that may happen but never sees the actual thing that will happen.

with that information, everyone with a brain can do this.

this is one of the things that bugs me about the show
the other being the complete lack of government involvement in situations where an alien spaceship shaped like a human hand enters the atmosphere, then crashes somewhere in maryland
where the fuck are the g-men at this point, there is no way in fuck you let a group of three space hippies handle what could result in a full scale invasion of the earth, ESPECIALLY WHEN WITHIN SPITTING DISTANCE OF DC
like the gem monsters fine, but once the aliens ships start showing up shit should realistically hit the fan

nobody really knows..

They have no g-men. This world has been completely indoctrinated by the CGs.

The subtext of Steven Universe reads like a /hfy/ thread on /tg/

mayor dewey is an accurate representation of near everyone in government in SU-Earth

"I should let him get hit by lightning..."

All you have to do is look with your special eyes.

B-b-b-but how does it work?

That's what they just started calling gemtech so humans would stop asking questions.

Presumably the government knows about the Crystal Gems but stays hands off as long as they keep the invasions under control by themselves. That way the CGs get the shit kicked out of them while the army doesn't get obliterated by hand lasers.

That's not the subtext of SU at all.
It's not human compassion, creativity and individuality that wins the day. It's specifically the gem rebels'.
The crystal gems didn't learn humanity from humans, they developed it by being on Earth and loving nature. A lot of it is inherent in their nature but being supressed by the homeworld regime.

Humans in SU are extremely insignificant. They exist around the gems as a part of nature and are important to Steven but they have no role, not even an underdog role, in the goings on of the universe.
It sort of celebrates that fact. It's a recurring theme in SU that worth is inherent and hard work doesn't matter but also that everybody is worth the same. The 'townies' are given a lot of focus, so much that you can hardly call it filler episodes when the show is about them. It's more like SoL. The fact that the gems play a more integral part in the future of Earth doesn't mean they should have a corresponding amount of screentime.

Garnet didn't know about the Breaking Point. No one did. Garnet can't predict things the doesn't understand.

>The crystal gems didn't learn humanity from humans
Rose's entire fucking story is a Data-tier quest to become more human. Every time we see her she goes on and on about how much she loves and envies humans, how we're able to change, grow, decide what to do with our own lives.