Bendis "explains" his writing decisions in "Civil War II"

>And with this civil war, we’re challenging you at the end of every issue to think about what side you’re standing on, which was by design.
You know, he's right. I've decided to side outside of Marvel now, because I'm not pay for this fucking garbage.

>Brian Michael Bendis: It’s always for the better when we’ve looked at the world around us and tried to bring the Marvel Universe closer to speed, and I don’t regret. Not even when the Neo-Nazis were recently targeting me—and it was upsetting—a friend of mine from within comics said “No one’s going to love all of your work all of the time, but if the Nazis are upset with you, you know you’re doing the right thing!”

>Brian Michael Bendis: The story of Riri is a very different one from Miles. She’s coming with a different background, perspective, and reason to the Iron Man franchise than Miles did when he became Spider-Man. That’s a big deal for us to explore.

>We’re also coming in at the ground level of a young person deciding to become the best version of herself that she can be, and if I’m honest, that’s my favorite stuff to write. It just is. I love exploring the hero who says “I can be better. I can do better” and then goes about learning from each journey a little more about him or herself. They begin to uncover their personal line in the sand when it comes to morality and whatnot. People will discover what drives her and we haven’t even scratched the surface of that and her connection with the armor.

>I heard Robert Downey Jr. acknowledged it, and I think it might have been the first time he’s acknowledged the ongoing comics via social media, which is obviously cool. I loved it, to be quite frank.

>The highest praise a comic book can get now is to be offhandedly acknowledge by the person profiting millions by playing it's characters in movies
So this is what the whimpers of a dying industry sound like...

This article makes me want to vomit on Bendis' face and then punch it.

>Good Morning America” did a 10-minute piece on it, which was really nicely done, and then I heard Robert Downey Jr. acknowledged it, and I think it might have been the first time he’s acknowledged the ongoing comics via social media, which is obviously cool.
It really is cool when subsidiaries of the same company shill your product when you pay them to.

On writing Teenage Superheroes:

>Brian Michael Bendis: I think everyone is at that age or has been through that point in life and knows how important it is. There’s the age where they tell you you’re legally an adult, but there’s another point when either someone personally tells you or you tell you you’re an adult. These moments take place when the world comes crashing down on you and adulthood finds you. Whether it’s financial or loss, something puts us all there even if it’s different for everyone and at different times.

>Too often, we see that bravado of being indestructible within teenagers quickly called into question when that moment arrives, and it’s in that moment that real growth, a real journey begins. That’s pretty fascinating from a writer’s perspective. It’s that exuberance of youth that makes someone put on a costume and fight crime. It’s hard to [imagine] a middle-aged man putting on a costume and deciding to fight crime.

>And, of course, having teenagers surrounding me in my home that inspire me and remind me about what’s going on in that generation’s world. So, it’s easy to tap into, you know? And the wounds of high school still ache, and the scabs are still easily peeled off in order to bleed all over the place.

On replacing heroes with ethnically diverse counterparts

>Brian Michael Bendis: I hear a lot about that especially with Miles Morales and now with RiRi. Now, I worked with an actress on “Powers” that said something interesting to me: It’s not the diversity of skin that interests her as an African American woman but the diversity of perspective and experience that really made the series interesting to her. And I’ve been thinking a lot about that. But that is what I think makes RiRi important and we’re going to explore that.

He...sigh. I'm tired of being pissed at Bendis. Ignoring this thread.

Dammit why does he exist?

>sigh.

*unsheathes katana* *teleports behind you* nothing personnel kid

>I think I’ve heard nearly every minute of every day that “You’re ruining Carol!” or “You’re ruining Tony!”
How long has Jessica been friends with Carol, Bendis?

>An impression (in the context of online advertising) is when an ad is fetched from its source, and is countable. Whether the ad is clicked is not taken into account. Each time an ad is fetched, it is counted as one impression.

Something referencing Riri was loaded somewhere on a webpage 2 billion times. These are not counted per person nor does a person have to click the link or even actually see it. The fact that it was trending on Twitter probably inflates these numbers drastically. Less than 5% of impressions on Twitter directly relate to the story.

So probably 10 million actually read something about Riri Williams in an article about it over the course of a month. That's shit. National Geographic gets about 60 million social media interactions in one day alone. (source: I work in social media at a large ad firm)

Marvel are lying cunts just blatantly inflating their worth here.

>MUH Diversity
>Everyone who disagrees with me has to be a racist.

This is the worst kind of bigotry and subtle racism out there. I really hope he realizes it one day.

He truly has become the joke of the industry.

Nice try, Bendis

>We’re also coming in at the ground level of a young person deciding to become the best version of herself that she can be, and if I’m honest, that’s my favorite stuff to write. It just is. I love exploring the hero who says “I can be better. I can do better” and then goes about learning from each journey a little more about him or herself. They begin to uncover their personal line in the sand when it comes to morality and whatnot. People will discover what drives her and we haven’t even scratched the surface of that and her connection with the armor.

So then why didn't he just make a NEW hero that can explore those concepts, instead of aping an old one?

You act like 101% of the shit marvel gets isn't from Cred Forums alone. You can always find duplicate threads about a characters race in both boards

>black women sent bendis headshots

I don't know if I believe this.

>And with this civil war, we’re challenging you at the end of every issue to think about what side you’re standing on, which was by design.

Really? Cause my thoughts after reading the #1 and the FCBD issue was that Tony and Carol were both written as complete retards. Which side am I standing on here?

>You know, it’s funny because I think I’ve heard nearly every minute of every day that “You’re ruining Carol!” or “You’re ruining Tony!” with the same verve. They don’t see the other side of it.
No shit, Sherlock, the two aren't mutually exclusive.
Fuck off, Bendis.

They're keeping up with CWII.

>It’s not the diversity of skin that interests her as an African American woman but the diversity of perspective and experience that really made the series interesting to her. And I’ve been thinking a lot about that. But that is what I think makes RiRi important and we’re going to explore that.
>Bendis thinks it's important to tell stories about the perspective and experience of black women
>And who better to write that than a white Jewish man who looks like Uncle Fester
th-thanks

He has black kids, he knows everything about black struggle in modern America.

He still hasn't responded to the fact that Ironheart is the name of a japanese porn flick.

...

As a black guy, I never really understood that joke in South Park where Token got Stan to admit he didn't "get it" after he tried to understand the African American struggle.

Now I do.

Oh god, do I get it.

Only thing I decided is to stop wasting money on this shit and fuck I'm not even bothering to pirate it because I know it'll be shit and want to shield my eyes from the cancer.

CWII?

>We heard from Disney that the original article received over 2,000,000,000 impressions!

Okay? Sounds more like they sent him a script to read off.

You can't really expect Brian "My cape can't work under these conditions!" Michael "We're awesome facial hair bros." Bendis to be able to write a complex morally ambiguous and philosophical story like Philip K. Dick, user. He's just high from spending too much time with his head up his own ass. Smelling that much shit does things to your brain.

Speaking of shallow, is all that reaction ignoring how she's just she-Prowler?

CWII. You know, Bendis' CWII.

>this constant challenging of our readers
It is a challenge to read this shit writing

It is.

So he just takes the basic iconography and adapts them into his own story that uses other people's characters?

are we sure he doesn't work for Bethesda?

Good Morning America is on ABC which is owned by Disney

>2,000,000,000 impressions
wth, I don't think even 2,000,000 people even knows of her existence.

>only muh boogeyman hates based Marlel

>>It just revealed how shallow the pool is for women of color in certain roles
Ah I see.
Because people want to see Tony keep his role as Iron Man, that means we must be sexist AND racist that we don't want someone taking over his role.
Like when Bucky took over for Cap and everyone hated it, that's the same thing.

I already see name of the first trade. Iron Riri: Big in China

>The moral high ground that I try to take is the one where I say we don’t know where this is going to end, and we’re going to leave that up to the individual readers to decide.
>there's no concrete resolution to my story therefore your opinions are wrong haha

Can we just pay Bronx hoods to shoot him already?

I've compared him to them before, mostly when questioning why suddenly everyone is drooling over Ulysses' powers when there are other future seers and why his powers are somehow any better than what they had access to before. All I could think of was It just works.

I have avoided this book like the plague. Can someone crash course it for me, because I don't even want to read an extended wiki article. Just give me the bare bones of why it's terrible.

>I don't even want to read an extended wiki article.
Oh god, one day I read the one for Spider-Island and I got depressed; the idea was good but the execution so bad.

Shit happens, but not really. But remains shit regardless.

Hero vs Hero

Or how her giant ass afro fits in that helmet.

Anybody have a link for Invincible Iron Man volumes 3, 4, or 5?

That's only because you think she is.

Event? Event! K. Hero vs Hero. Again? Why? Dunno lol.

Ive not been keeping up with civil war 2 all that much but people have said Tony and Carol are on two opposite extremes but isnt Tony just not actually changing? Like isnt carol the one saying "fuck free will and due process" while Tony is saying keep things the same?

I mean its so clear to anyone with a brain carol is fucking wrong

Minority report, except both sides are retarded, and also the precog is just making shit up and they know it, but Carol refuses to stop because she's Captain Janeway with superpowers.

sorry tagged you wrong

Civil War II?

>Introducing NEW INHUMAN (who can see the future)
>NEW INHUMAN's predictions help everyone stop the Celestials.
>Medusa introduces every superhero to NEW INHUMAN.
>Tony objects because what if NEW INHUMAN'S predictions show a superhero becoming a threat?
>Carol finds out NEW INHUMAN predicts Thanos will arrive to steal a cosmic cube.
>Carol gets a team out there and in the process War Machine is killed and She-Hulk is put in a coma by one of War Machine's missiles.
>Tony is pissed off because he warned Carol this would happen (even though he actually didn't, but that means some tie-in writer will have to fix this)
>Tony goes and abducts NEW INHUMAN and gets the Inhumans and Carol pissed off at him.
>NEW INHUMAN predicts that the Hulk will kill everyone.
>Everyone goes to find Bruce Banner who at this point is depowered.
>There is a debate and then suddenly Hawkeye (who is usually against killing) shoots an arrow into Banner's head because he saw Banner's eyes flicker.
>Hawkeye is arrested, put on trial and is found not guilty because Banner had requested Hawkeye kill him if he were ever to Hulk out again. Meanwhile, people defend the jumbotron having speakers but don't have a good reason why the Times Square jumbotron needs speakers.
>Tony discovers that NEW INHUMAN makes theoretical futures and Carol Danvers is prematurely arresting people. Nightcrawler pulls out someone who was arrested and then it actually starts the Civil War 2.
>She-Hulk meanwhile wakes up from her coma but for some reason doesn't remember that Bruce is depowered. Or rather, Bendis doesn't know that She-Hulk should know Bruce is depowered.
>Hero V Hero battle actually happens after like five issues! Storm beats Doctor Strange for some reason.
>Vision accidentally destroys the GOTG ship, like how he almost accidentally killed War Machine in the movie.
>NEW INHUMAN has a vision of Miles Morales standing over a dead Steve Rogers. Carol plans to arrest Miles.

Okay, let me try again. Can you guys explain the book to me in Bendis Speak?

>The moral high ground that I try to take is the one where I say we don’t know where this is going to end, and we’re going to leave that up to the individual readers to decide.
Only a complete fucking idiot would read the first Civil War and think either side maintained a moral high ground. Only Bendis would do this and then create a sequel nobody wanted based around this notion. I'm beyond the point of being upset. I'm just tired and want his bullshit to stop.

A riri is a retard.

Bendis? Explaining his writing decisions in "Civil War II"?

See this is why Bendis needs to be assassinated. He's incapable of taking criticism and when he gets it he thinks he's a misunderstood genius

Bendis speak? You mean speaking? Like Bendis?

You'd think that, but Tony's reasoning and how he's gone about it has been fucking warped since page 1. Had he not gone off the rails, then this whole thing could probably have been sorted over a series of meetings instead of the absolute clusterfuck of bad decisions it turned into.

Also, Carol and Tony are both having their actions manipulated behind the scenes by like half a dozen other forces with ulterior motives.

So based off the OP, Carol is like objectively being a Nazi by locking up people before they commit any crimes, which was theoretical to begin with?

Poor execution on this guy

Yeah, I forgot to mention that part. She went and had someone arrested because Ulysses' vision said that person would become a Hydra agent.

>incapable taking criticism and when he gets it he thinks he's a misunderstood genius.

Marvel spoiled him too early and too long. It does not help that he got his OCs adopted into tv series. Arrogance of this level has its limits. He'll fall and he'll fall hard one day.

>They don’t see the other side of it
The other side is that you're ruining everybody but you're the one who doesn't see that.

>The moral high ground that I try to take is the one where I say we don’t know where this is going to end,

Well going by how Age of Ultron ended up below standard and his later Avengers ended up being something that wasn't worth following and his X-Men run doing fuck all of worth, I think it's understandable if someone assumes Civil War II is going to end badly.

>long-winded explanation of why he's totally not a fucking hack and all criticism of him is objectively false
i wish bendis could put half this much effort into his writing

>muh Cred Forums boogeyman
Maybe some comic fans just have racial preferences like everyone else in the fucking world has been scientifically proven to.

Pulling off a heroes v heroes story that doesn't involve mind control is an impossible balancing act.

In this interview Bendis shows that he understands such an event requires both sides to be right in an ambiguous sense that still allows for conflict, but fails to recognize that a story where you cant take sides requires intense audience investment in a third party.

He also just wasn't good enough to keep the issue ambiguous.

Ambiguity isn't interesting.

Who fucking cares?

>The moral high ground that I try to take is the one where I say we don’t know where this is going to end

Everyone cares Bendis.

Just watch Carol win this retarded event, pull a "right is might", everyone quitting being a super hero and their counterparts taking over.

Then, Nova, Kamala and Miles will join in adventures on space and have picnics with New Galactus

>Good Morning America is on ABC which is owned by Disney
>It really is cool when subsidiaries of the same company shill your product when you pay them to.
That's what he said, bro.

You see, there are some people who just really have some difficulty with change when it comes to these characters who they’ve known for years if not decades in some cases. And I get that. But, you know, I think it was [Marvel Chief Creative Officer] Joe Quesada who was talking to Stan Lee and asked him what he thought about some of these changes, and Stan’s response was that fans wouldn’t recognize one bit of the Marvel Universe if he was still running it. “You guys are the ones who truly love this stuff,” he said. “But we would constantly tear it up. Who knows what it’d look like now if we were still at the helm.”
You know, I'd totally be on board with Bendis politic of pushing drama and change IF ONLY that drama and those changes had a real effect on characters. It doesn't have to be a permanent effect but if it lasted at least three years it would be something. Their big changes barely pass the six months mark nowadays for fuck sake, and Bendis is the flagship writer pushing the 'let's write blank stories with forced drama that we won't develop anyways' mentality. If only he could see the difference.

>How long has Jessica been friends with Carol, Bendis?
35 years IRL.

I really, really hate to do this, since I hate Bendis' bald, egg-shaped ass too, but he didn't break up Carol and Jess. That was Hopeless.

>But that is what I think makes RiRi important and we’re going to explore that.

Oh boy I can't wait to read about the perspective and experiences of an American teenager who's as smart as Tony Stark.

So relatable.

Probably just a 1,000. If 2 billion responded, comics wouldn't be selling so low.

Around 3,5 billion people have internet access, there's no way in hell more than half of that are even aware of Riri Williams.

Written by an old fat jew!

Or, and this would give a far greater amount of hope, if almost all of the 2 billion responded by not giving a fuck.

It'll bet almost anything that the afro's a wig.

>You know, it’s funny because I think I’ve heard nearly every minute of every day that “You’re ruining Carol!” or “You’re ruining Tony!” with the same verve. They don’t see the other side of it. And with this civil war, we’re challenging you at the end of every issue to think about what side you’re standing on
I see nothing but one sided views on the whole thing, it has just been gradually tipping towards one each issue.

How is Carol right?

>I think I’ve heard nearly every minute of every day that “You’re ruining Carol!” or “You’re ruining Tony!” with the same verve. They don’t see the other side of it.

This from the guy who still doesn't think he ruined Scarlet Witch.

Bendis and Tom Brevoort seem to have the attitude that you can do anything to a character because someone else can fix it later. Only the fixes don't work, or at least they take years to work.

>It’s hard to [imagine] a middle-aged man putting on a costume and deciding to fight crime.

Well that just means you have a poor imagination, in my opinion.

How arrogantly ignoranr can this guy get? He really has this delusion that he's really good to the point that he should not be criticized or questioned for his actions and decisions that is currently defecating shitfest into the MU.

This smells awful lot like damage control.

What else is new under the sun?

I think he's trying to talk about the

Black female scientist in power armour role

Just don't buy his shit.

And people wonder why DC is starting to corner the market.

>original characters
>selling

>And with this civil war, we’re challenging you at the end of every issue to think about what side you’re standing on
no they aren't
they've made it very clear who they believe is right and who they believe is wrong

>They don’t see the other side of it. And with this civil war, we’re challenging you at the end of every issue to think about what side you’re standing on, which was by design. We were very excited about pursuing this as writers, this constant challenging of our readers through pushing each of the characters into difficult territories.
Fuck off. In your book Carol has no side, even in tie-ins she's getting shit on or people are constantly wondering what the fuck is up with the bitch.

And make Bendis a martyr? No thanks. Can´t we fool Hillary into believing Bendis knows something about her that would make her go to jail? That way it will be a "suicide".

>2,000,000,000 impressions!
What does this mean? That's way too many 0s to comprehend.

Holy shit IKTF

They did by putting the costume on a new character.

They have to, Marvel takes the whole universe as a hostage with their Earth shattering events and they have no choice.

I can't read

What did it say

I feel like both Tony and Carol are retarded and lashing out for the stupidest reasons and making bad decisions while Captain Hydra just sets things and motions and sits back and laughs while everyone fucks themselves over.

It's basically pic related

Some say it's the suit that makes the pepe, I say it's the pepe that makes the suit

That is all totally in character for Carol though

It's just Bendis stroking his ego and it probably was whoever handled RDJ's social media accounts that noticed Bendis and not RDJ himself.

But seriously not even Gillen stroked himself that badly when Tom Hiddleston sent him a letter when JiM was ending.

I've concluded that while Brevoort is a good editor he is shit at editing events. I can't think of a Brevoort event that didn't go off the rails in some way and more recently they've made no sense at all (Avengers vs. X-Men, Axis, Civil War II).

An event can make sense, other editors have done them like the people who edited events like The Thanos Imperative. I think Brevoort just can't hide his contempt for them.

Also the Watchmen characters with the probable exception of Laurie were all middle aged and above right?

I dunno but the idea of middle age superheroes interests me a lot mainly because most of the characters portrayed who are in that age range have this defeated and sick of life's bullshit type of attitude and the whole mid life crisis thing that I feel like I relate to even though I'm just starting my 20's and I just got a place of my own.

Also teenager and Young adult heroes are so done to death, I get it because in that age range you're in your prime but I wouldn't mind reading about someone who is 35 and up whose life didn't go the way they wanted and are dealing with trying to save the world while facing the fact that they are getting older and losing their youth and other stuff people tbat age face.

Also is it really true that people want to read about people closer to their own age? Sometimes, I guess, but: Archie comics weren't for teenagers, they were for little kids imagining what life would be like when they became teenagers. Kids like Batman better than Robin because he's cool. Spider-Man was even more popular with kids after they aged him up a little. And so on.

I think a lot of what comic writers and editors talk about is their own wishful thinking, they want to be young and cool again. In general I think they project their own tastes onto the audience.

Somebody forcefeed Bendis a jug of bleach.

I think that was the thing with me too, I could never get into Harry Potter when the first book came out because the whole premise of him being a kid in school, albeit a magic school, didn't interest me. I never really wanted to read about kids when I was a kid, I wanted to read about older people like teens or adults, people who had more agency than I did, warriors from a faraway land or from space who had nore freedom to do so.

Also kids in fiction always seemed fake to me, like sometimes they had their shit together in a way no kid I knew did like Magic School bus for example, I did like that show because I learned a lot of stuff but the kids in that show didn't behave like kids at all (I guess Arbold probably was the one that feel real because kids do tend to get nervous or scared when facing new or unknown things).

However I can see the appeal of reading about a character that is similar to you and that you can identify with but that was never a thing I needed.

>seeing them struggle with what side they’re on
I have seen literally zero struggle when people talk about this event.

never forget

People f5'd to hell with disbelief of such a shitty announcement.

>And with this civil war, we’re challenging you at the end of every issue to think about what side you’re standing on
STOP DRAGGING REAL LIFE INTO COMICS I JUST WANT A DAMN ADVENTURE!!!

>and we’re going to leave that up to the individual readers to decide.

Fucking bendis is a fucking faggot that's a cop out. That's what terrible writers fall back on when their stories suck that bad.

>agency

tumblr pls go.

huh
Guess I've only been reading Carnage and Gwenpool because I didn't notice CWII at all

>The only part I’d like to change would be where people are yelling at me.

Will he ever respond to questions about rhodey's niece and why he made up a new character that's exactly the same as her but with a stupid fucking name

This speech is all well and good, but Marvel is already putting out far superior books about this that Bendis can never measure up to.

>He thinks Civilian War II is challenging anyone

Talk about arrogance.

>So then why didn't he just make a NEW hero that can explore those concepts, instead of aping an old one?

he does that too

haven't you heard of Bombshell or Goldballs

no, you haven't, because you don't read comic books

>You know, it’s funny because I think I’ve heard nearly every minute of every day that “You’re ruining Carol!” or “You’re ruining Tony!” with the same verve.
Yeah that's gonna happen when you're writing beloved characters and you have no idea what you're doing. Or when you write ANY characters and you don't know what you're doing. Or just when you're a shitty writer.

Honestly, to be fair, fuck Ales Kot. He might be the biggest piece of shit of the decade to get a job writing for the Big 2.

Just make War Machine's niece into Ironheart's War Machine equivalent. Probably something equally stupid like Peace Machine.

Peace Machine is actually pretty good.

This man says the things we're all thinking.
And we're all thinking fuck Bendis!

How did Tony lose the moral high ground? I thought he was practically glued to it when they decided that Hydra was behind half of the shit Carol did.