Why is Wonder Woman queer now?

It was originally a term for weird, then a slur, now it's been coopted, I don't think we can go backwards on this one.

>now

You must be new here

In my headcanon she has always been

>now
Casuals need to be banned. Say what you will about Cred Forums, they have always had the right idea by demanding people actually know their shit before posting.

Cred Forums saved Pepe so I'm sure they can save 'queer'.

Better question is why it's such a big deal, both for those who praise it and for those who are mad about it.
It isn't exactly a first, and all Rucka is doing is just being upfront instead of being coy about it

She comes from an island of all women where their past time is playing bondage games.

Anything is better than her new year one rebirth "Help me Steve, I'm helpless Steve, Oh you want to put me in a cell, ok, maybe Steve will rescue me!" Bullshit.

Better anything but that sadness.

This.
Y'all don't know shit about Wonder Woman if you thought she wasn't a kinky bisexual super heto from conception.

Man, I have no problem with WW being bi, it makes sense.

But Rucka obssessive need of doing this with EVERY female character that he writtes despite previous characterization, with the fact that he believe that he is a lesbian in a man's body, just makes it look like he has some problem in the head, or is useing this to make his masturbatory fantasies - while pretending to be related to progressiveness.

Gay is still very often treated as an insult, and the term was created to avoid the use of words like "faggot". In the same way that "special" carry another conotation by association, same goes for everything that is associated with gayness.

People just need to start insult others of queershit. It will eventualy happen anyway.

She was? ffs not all of us know every bit of trivia about every hero. Cred Forums is a complete shitfest and one of the reasons is what you said.

It's never been in the forefront of their character. It's just the usual Cred Forums style gatekeeping. You're better off ignoring anyone who sounds like they're always mad about stuff.

They're cancer.

If you don't know something about a hero, you shouldn't start shit about that then.

>ffs not all of us know every bit of trivia about every hero.
Then maybe you should do a little bit of research before you make threads about said characters, so you don't end up looking like a fucking retard. It's not our job to educate you on basic facts. Goddamn.

>now

Hey guys, if you need a template on how to make a thread where you don't know what you're talking about, look no further than OP.

She was concieved as a bondage fantasy on an all female island.

How has it not always been at the forefront of her character?

Okay let me test it. If it doesn't work I'm suing you

Yeah it was, during Marston's stuff. Everything with Paradise Island was gay as hell, especially that "deer" hunting game. Wonder Woman was based on a mutual lover Marston and his wife shared.

Because unless it's specifically shown and stated Cred Forums won't understand it.

>If you don't know something about a hero

No one knows everything about every character. If you can't handle that then that's your problem. Sucks to be you.

>Then maybe you should do a little bit of research before you make threads about said characters

Do a little research as in read decades old comics and catch all the subtext that's been scattered around here and there since then. Dudes, no one is putting in your kind of hours into comics.

That doesn't make them flawed, it makes you an otaku.

>Amazonian
>Born in an island with no men.
>Born and bred to hate men.
>"Lol, shi iz queer naow?"
Are you actively making an effort to be made fun of?

It's not my problem, you're the one putting your foot in your mouth for not knowing basic things. It's not even subtext, it's just golden age stuff.

>She was concieved as a bondage fantasy on an all female island.

No one on this board right now had a father who was alive when that shit was being published. lol

>How has it not always been at the forefront of her character?

Bitched don't know about my 70 year old comics. What scrubs. You guys are almost beyond parody.

>Yeah it was, during Marston's stuff.

A man who died before WW2 was over. Yeah, that's some real relevant shit that everyone should just know. FFS dude.

I've never read a WW comic before the Azzarello run.

All you need to do is read the WW wikipedia page and apply a little critical thinking.

>then a slur, now it's been coopted,

It's not a recent thing. In academia, the general term for research into LGBT+ issues, history, etc. has been "queer studies" since the Seventies, which is about as long as there actually has been such a thing.

>you're the one putting your foot in your mouth for not knowing basic things.

That's not me dude. I'm just the one telling you that you're being unreasonable. Which you are.

>It's not even subtext, it's just golden age stuff.

Which was over 50 years ago. Do you not see that?

See
You think someone would do even the minimal amount of research before going and complaining about something, but I guess that's too much to ask.

Greece was homo erotic as fuck. The nobility enjoyed fucking male youth in the ass so it makes sense that amazons fool around.

>Cred Forums saved Pepe
>falling for this meme

>All you need to do is read the WW wikipedia page and apply a little critical thinking.

lol

>Bro, all you gotta do is a little scholarly research, head down to the national archives and read some comics from ww2 and it's obvious. A real fan would know these things.

This is you.

It's comics. Expecting everyone to be intimately familiar with 3/4s of a century of history to start a thread about a character is complete nonsense.

Chill out, stop attacking people who don't know everything there is to know cause that just makes you look like an asshole.

>Do a little research as in read decades old comics and catch all the subtext that's been scattered around here and there since then.
Do a little research as in hit up a wiki article at bare minimum, dumbass. If you have been misinformed, you will be corrected without issue. But as it stands, you're just being lazy, and the result is that you look like a moron.

If it IS a joke, it's sure as hell not funny.

This

Look at all these Cred Forums fags that have never read WW in their life because picking up a comic with a GURL on the cover threatened their fragile beta masculinity, complaining about a character who has been known to be bi for 30 years.

You fuckers make me sick. Get out of my board.

You're really making an ass of yourself here bud. This isn't information that you have to dig up, this is the kind of thing that you know the moment you see it. You don't have to scour through books and pages to know this stuff.

>I guess that's too much to ask.

Yes, it is. You guys are dicks to people because they aren't down with WW2 era wonder-woman stories and you're treating them like they're the assholes. lol.

That's some good stuff there.

In other words you just read Rucka's statement and just want to shitpost. Rucka even explains why in the dam quote, so fuck off with that whole decades of reading to know why it's not that much of a stretch for people to think she's bi.

Can we all agree that instead of trying to feel superior for knowing more things about Wonder Woman, people should focus on feeling superior for knowing, liking and reading better characters, preferably, not from Marvel or DC?

Well it didn't work. Prepare to be sued

>Do a little research as in hit up a wiki article at bare minimum.

I just looked at the wiki, btw. There's one mention of her being a lesbian and it's a quote from seduction of the innocent which was completely full of shit.

Kind of like this "look up the wikipedia" argument when you think about it.

>wikipedia page
>scholarly research

Someone never had to write a paper for school.

Wikipedia is supposed to be the encyclopedia for people who don't have the attention span to read a real encyclopedia. It seriously takes like 10 minutes to get to the part of her page that talks about her being a bondage fantasy. No one needs to go digging in the comic archives to find this shit. It's 2016 and wikipedia is the lowest bar of research you could possibly ask a person to do.

But please keep exaggerating like I'm expecting this guy to search for first print WW issues and read them cover to cover before posting.

But OP, women sexuality is much different than men's. Girls can give each other kisses on the cheek and hold each other's hands. It wouldn't be considered gay at all.

Because WonderWoman loves everyone.
Superman, Steve, Hades, all the Amazons, Orion, Hal, Shazam, prolly even that demon who's neck she snapped.

Bitch loves you, and ain't gonna let penises or lack penises stop her from loving someone.

Why are Maggie and Hopey queer now?

wasn´t diana bisexual a long time ago?

>This isn't information that you have to dig up

lol. Yeah cause DC has been publishing their main female character as in your face gay for decades and...

you know you're full of it.

>this is the kind of thing that you know the moment you see it.

lol. Oh man. You're just the cutest.

>You fuckers make me sick. Get out of my board.

This is my board as much as it's anyone else's. Again, I'll remind you that I knew she was at least bi. I'm not OP. I'm just the guy popping in to call you guys assholes cause you expect this to be common knowledge when it just isn't.

Your "Read Marston" stuff is just hilariously out of touch to boot.

Greg "don't draw a pantyline" Rucka

She lives on an island of all women and is a bondage fantasy. Anyone with even half a brain could make that connection. The only reason that people recommended to read the wiki page is that they may not know about the bondage thing.

I mean, who do you think an island full of women have sex with if not each other? That isn't even something you should have to look up. It should be an obvious fact once you think about WW in a narrative sexual context.

>In other words you just read Rucka's statement and just want to shitpost.

I've been reading WW for years. I'm not mad about her being gay, I'm mad that you guys are mad cause people didn't know. Your ridiculous standards for what comics fans are supposed to know about shit is complete cancer.

>so fuck off with that whole decades of reading

You guys are the "lol, scrubs don't know about muh golden age and Marston" That was your side of the argument.

>Your ridiculous standards for what comics fans are supposed to know about shit is complete cancer.
I have to admit that I am a newfag, nice to see what a normie looks like.

Alright faggots, I had to sit through LGBTQIA training for my job.

Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Trans, Queer, Intersex, and Asexual
Queer is supposed to be people who aren't sure and say they are not hetrosexual.

>Big 2 will make mainstays women, black, Asian and queer, but not trans

Pull the trigger you fucking cowards.

Huh? "Gay" is offensive now?

>Queer is supposed to be people who aren't sure and say they are not hetrosexual.
Sexuality hipsters.

>now

Negative Man was intersexed for a while during Morrison's run, that's grouped in with trans issues often.

>born on an island of immortal amazon warriors and has never seen a man
Why wasn't Wonder Woman gay before this is the better question. Shit if I was trapped with only men since birth I'd probably fuck an asshole or two every now and then.

>It seriously takes like 10 minutes to get to the part of her page that talks about her being a bondage fantasy.

And where does it say she's a lesbian again? Being into bdsm isn't saying she's gay. That was the argument: look at the wiki and you'd know that she was gay.

Well? Where does it say this?

>She lives on an island of all women and is a bondage fantasy.

In ww2 era comics she was. Again, bdsm does not equal lesbian. You guys keep saying it's obvious and everyone should know yet you keep linking to "she liked to be tied up."

I think you'd be able to find some actual evidence to that effect.

>Anyone with even half a brain could make that connection.

Again, saying she's a bdsm fantasy doesn't show where she's a lesbian and that bdsm stuff itself was cut out almost completely decades ago. Well before any of us were born.

So simply stated: it's not common knowledge. You know this. Your demands that people know this is completely goofy and I think you know it.

I'll repeat cause you guys are bad at this: I know she's bi at the very least. I'm comfortable with this. You guys are fucking up by calling this common baseline knowledge. It fucking isn't. No one actually reads any of that Marston shit. No one's really reading any ww2 era comics and no other character requires a wikipedia search to talk about.

You guys are just being completely unreasonable. As usual.

Ah yes, the well-known, classic, superhero Negative Man. How could I forget?

She's always been bi, don't know why they're calling her ~queer~ go Pan or Bi, don't make up new shit

So is this the highlight of her character, now? The front and center piece of who Diana is? Will her stories now revolve around this "revelation"? Cause it seems like so. Diana is now known as that queer woman warrior and nobody can stop talking for and against it. This is the summarization of how you'd introduce Princess Diana of Thymescira to normies.

Forget the decades of character molding and development of the Amazon Princess-Ambassador-once goddess. Her trials and tribulations against her foes and herself. The friendships she attained when she left the island the lessons she learned while being away. Let's forget her fight for peace and love. Cause, the most important thing about her now is that she's lesbian - no, bi, user, cause she had past relationship with men. Nooo, she's more like Pansexual cause Diana is the manifestation and ambassador of love - she loves everyone. Nah, dude, I doubt that she even has a concept of what sexuality is, you know, having grown up in an island.....

RIP Princess

In literally every iteration she starts on the same island and said island is used at various times within the story.

It's baseline knowledge because the only way they could make it more obvious is having a full page spread of her scissoring with another Amazonian.

I'll say this to you again, all you have to do is think about the fact that Wonder Woman spends decades without seeing a man on an island full of women. If you even get a twinge of interest about her sexuality it should be obvious who she was having sex with.

The BDSM thing is just another layer of it. She spent decades on an island full of women and knows that she has a BDSM fetish. Who do you think she exlpored that fetish with to realize that she has it? She doesn't have internet so she can just watch this shit on Pornhub and figure out that she has a fetish. There is literally no other option for her but to be a lesbian for decades. So if she had any sexual orientation it should be blatantly obvious what it is unless you're full blown retarded.

No, you retard

It didn't make sense for her to be straight considering her original run. If anything she's a straight zoophile and lesbian humanophile, like most Greek legends tends to go.

>Your ridiculous standards for what comics fans are supposed to know about shit is complete cancer.
Hi normie

So you've been a devout reader since BvS? Cool.

So Tumblr

Really, tell me, when was Diana been discussed so much? Or has been this popular to normies? Look at the very thread you're in the threads that came before this.

Lersbainic mind control

She is debatably the most popular female super hero. If normies were going to discuss a female hero from Marvel or DC, she would almost definitely be the first one to come to their minds. At the very least, she would come in second behind Harley Quinn.

Either way, you really don't need to know about the character to connect the dots of "This is an all female island, so I guess if they have sex, it's with each other."

>when was Diana been discussed so much
When Earth One came out
When her movie was announced
When she showed up in BvS
During Azzarello's run

Go outside and say to the first guy that you see that he looks gay as fuck.

Nigga will probably say that you are the faggot.

>all of N52 goes by
>we're several issues into the Rebirth event
>still no Egg Fu
How are you coping, Cred Forums?

>Amazon
>straight

Pick one.

So how does Mrs Rucka feel about his "lady in a middle aged dude's body" thing? There's also the fact that he's effectively tried to make his own Wonder Woman twice with his two Image projects, Lazarus and Black Magick.

>yfw Diana of Themyscira is a /mlp/ horse fucker

>In literally every iteration she starts on the same island

And for all we know it's an island full of lesbians except her. lol. Seriously though, other than some sly innuendo on occasion for the last 40 some odd years, this has never been at the forefront of her character as I explicitly stated in my first post in this thread.

As a side note, I'm a strong believer that people are born straight or gay. I don't think the absence of dudes automatically turns women gay no more than you would expect every dude in prison would just start sucking dick.

Assumptions are just that, and not cold hard facts nor can they be treated like common knowledge. It's just a reasonable best guess with the information at hand. Trying to gatekeep discussion based on this is childish at best.

>all you have to do is think about the fact that Wonder Woman spends decades without seeing a man on an island full of women.

So every man who spends a few years in jail starts tossing salad, huh? You know there's real world examples of this kind of thing and plenty of people living in sex segregated societies just don't fuck anybody.

Being without men doesn't make anyone gay any more than being the only gay dude on an island full of women would turn them straight. If there was a switch people could throw gay conversion would actually work.

>The BDSM thing is just another layer of it.

Only if you confuse kink with a person's base sexuality.

>Hi normie

See? Cancer.

My point was, her sexuality has become her identity now because Rucka had to go wave the obvious flag. It saddens me that Diana is now diminished to this irrelevant part of her life as an Princess, Warrior and Ambassador. I'm not saying eradicate it from being referenced in the books but let that be that - references and not something that utterly defines her as a character.

Uh user...

>I had to sit through LGBTQIA training for my job.

Truly darkest timeline.

And what the hell is "intersex"? Are those snail people?

I don't follow Harley. When did this happen? I need to read this arc right away!

He's a supporting character in the Harley books, he first appeared in the Annual

that acronym is shit

I would call them Gasexualesbitrannys.

Basically anyone who doesn't fit into the gender binary genetically

This is how you publicity, user. It certainly worked.

So, a mutant?

Yeah, Ruckas run isn't really doing that. If it were, people wouldn't have had to interview him to make a definitive statement about her sexuality.

The only reason this is coming up now is that Rucka treated her sexuality about as subtly as anyone else ever has, some interviewer on the internet asked him about it, and it blew up because the loads of people who don't read comic books read an article and got excited about a "Change" that has really been a part of her character from her inception to anyone who has read a WW comic and can piece together that an island full of women would end up having sex with each other when they get horny.

tl;dr: Don't worry about any of the shit you said, Rucka is a good writer who is smart enough to not throw that shit in your face and insult your intelligence, and all of the hype about it online will die out soon enough. And very few of the people excited about this "Change" won't start picking up the comic anyway, so there will be no incentive to mention that she's bi every other page.

>now
I honestly and genuinely want Cred Forums to leave.

>So is this the highlight of her character, now? The front and center piece of who Diana is? Will her stories now revolve around this "revelation"?

Welcome to [CURRENT YEAR], user. Where sexuality is the most important and defining aspect of any person, yet sex itself is still objectifying and problematic.

>There's also the fact that he's effectively tried to make his own Wonder Woman twice with his two Image projects, Lazarus and Black Magick.

Were they lesbians too?

I'm proud of you Cred Forums

This thread started as nothing but a shitty Cred Forums-tier raid by people who don't read comics, but you saved it and turned it into just a thread with a lot of shitposting in it

DC wanted to play when Marvel said the same thing about Deadpool

Yes, but so are people with blue eyes, so it's not really a good idea to just call them X-men

Greg Rucka can only write lesbians

Eh, more the general Strong and Untouchable Heroine that Rucka's got a thing for. Granted, a lot of Image's titles boil down to "I want to make my own X character or story, so I can spin it into TV or movies later."

But the mutants that dont fit genetically are an extremelly small group.

Extremelly small.

Niggas act like it is soething like 5% of the world.

Did he write your mom?

Then he's perfect for a Harley/Ivy book
Or a solo Ivy book

It's about 2%, but a lot of them you wouldn't know to look at them, even naked

>now

No board falls for clickbait quite like Cred Forums.

There are people in this thread that don't even read comics....

Carol might as well be a man now with what they've done to her.

Live-action was a mistake, it only brings here retarded shitposters like OP who only read the latest comic news and never read comics.

Well, at least we got them to visit. If OPs not baiting, the discussion would provide him some sort of an enlightenment

As far as I'm concerned OP has been making tediously long responses to these sort of things. I don't think he's interested with being enlightened.

Gave her short hair and covered her arms and legs?

No, they made her look like a man

...

Carol looks like Owen Wilson in that last frame.

She looks manlier than the time man came to man-town and came all over another man's face.

Wait, Wonder Woman hasn't ALWAYs been bi at the very least?

It was a small interview that blew up big. Truth be told though, ifthe interview was about her origin or her moral compass and threshold when it comes to killing, I dont think it would garner as much publicity. SJW shit attracts attention and unfortunately, for a character who has existed for decades, that same attention will envelop her to her current status and disregard the thousands of panels from hundreds of issues through out the years cause the normies wouldn't bother to read or at the very least, research. They just jump in the boat cause "yay! progressive!" ignorance.

>If anything she's a straight zoophile and lesbian humanophile, like most Greek legends tends to go.

That's quite an image to imagine, user. But I doubt that in the absence of the penis, they'd fuck random animals.

Oh, no, wait, I have a thought. Are the animals in Thymiscera limited to females only or issit that the Amazons actually knows about penises and hetero sex because of animal mating season?

I don't understand how the artist, writer, colorist, inker, letterer, and editor all looked at this and said "this is fine"

You might have a point if WW wasn't already a sexually charged character in the first place. Or if sexually wasnt a sliding scale full of grey area and not the black and white gay or straight nonsense you seem to think it is.

>Wait, Wonder Woman hasn't ALWAYs been bi at the very least?

Probably. It was a reasonable assumption you could make. It was never an explicit part of her character though except by a few sly innuendos throughout her many varied incarnations.

>You might have a point if WW wasn't already a sexually charged character in the first place.

I do have a point because "the first place" was before your grandfather met your grandmother.

>dazzler
>still edgy "i was raped by mystique" punk now
>sometime pop star

Which is easily referenced without going back in time by this wonderful thing you're on called the internet.

God, you just keep rounding around to the same dumbass arguments as if finding out that WW is sexually charged is some difficult thing you have to time travel to do instead of sitting in front of your computer like you already are.

Remember when Carol used to flaunt DD racks, a glorious hair, and fly around with exposed meaty cheeks....yea

>Or if sexually wasnt a sliding scale full of grey area and not the black and white gay or straight nonsense you seem to think it is.

Just because there are grey areas doesn't mean there aren't black or white areas too. There are full on 100% gay people. There are also full on 100% straight people.

Taking away or adding the possibility of expressing your sexuality does not change that sexuality. Gay dudes don't become Cunnilingus masters just cause there's no dudes around and Straight dudes don't automagically start blowing other dudes when the last woman leaves town.

Sorry if this confuses you.

M-A-R-V-E-L

>No one on this board right now had a father who was alive when that shit was being published. lol

Maybe not when she debuted, but it was only a few years old when my dad was born.

ITS OK WHEN DC DOES IT

Y'know what I was alive for?

Diana admitting Paradise Island is full of lesbos in an early 90's issue of Justice League and Rucka writing Wonder Woman in the early 2000's the exact same way he writes her now.

>now

Look man, you have no evidence to back up why anyone shouldn't think WW isn't at least bisexual except for your own ignorance to the character and contexts of her stories.

If thats your best argument then you should just shut up now, because it's the dumbest fucking argument you could possibly fucking make. I was able to decipher this shit by reading a wikipedia page and about half of Azzarellos run. I didn't read any of these Golden Age WW stories. I didn't spend hours researching her creators back stories and filling in subtle narrative blanks. Sorry you're too dumb to either read a comic book or connect the pretty obvious dots that are there, but fuck don't expect everyone to be as stupid as you are.

Because she takes Minotaur cock now

>Are the animals in Thymiscera limited to females only or issit that the Amazons actually knows about penises and hetero sex because of animal mating season?

Cred Forums you never fail to dig up these questions don't

It's important questions that has to be answered

>Which is easily referenced without going back in time by this wonderful thing you're on called the internet.

Saying that "in the first place" matters is completely silly and you know it. There's no reason anyone should look for information that WW might be gay unless they were given a reason to do so. No other character, I'll remind you, requires an in depth internet search to talk about something as basic as what kind of person they like to fuck.

Pretending as if this is a prerequisite for posting about WW is beyond silly. All the "in the first place" stuff (that you mentioned) is still practically illegible nonsense that not a single person has gone out of their way to look at in decades. I does not matter what 40s WW did. No one reads that shit.

Pretending that's important common place knowledge is like saying you can't talk about Lex Luthor unless you want to talk about him being mad as fuck that Superboy made him bald.

>as if finding out that WW is sexually charged is some difficult thing you have to time travel to do

You guys keep portraying 80 year old comics that no one ever reads as if they should be common knowledge and pretend as if stuff that hasn't really been explored in decades is some well known thing that people just have to know about.

You're being unreasonable. No other comic character needs any kind of real research to talk about, but when it comes time to talk about wonder woman you guys expect people to look at her Wikipedia article, search that to see if she's gay, *find nothing* and then keep looking elsewhere.

lol

Wonder Woman has been making more overt references to her bisexuality since the 80s

Rucka didn't come out and announce this, he was asked about it and was like "no duh?"

It's a catch-all term to describe anyone who isn't both cisgendered and straight.

Same concept as "hispanic", just a word to put everyone into a neat little box so you can have the biggest team of supporters/victims possible to make your point.

alternatively, lurk moar, fuckboy

>Diana admitting Paradise Island is full of lesbos in an early 90's issue of Justice League

Oh snap. one whole page in the eighties. Why doesn't everyone know this then?

lol.

>Look man, you have no evidence to back up why anyone shouldn't think WW isn't at least bisexual

You're the ones arguing that it's common knowledge. Not me. I don't have to prove that she's straight because I know she isn't. You have to prove that people should know this and all you've offered, and the others on your side, is that there's some bdsm stuff in the 40s. There's a page in a single JLA issue.

That's what amounts to common knowledge for you. Wow.

>you should just shut up now

Hey, don't get mad cause you're doing a shit job proving your side of this.

>Sorry you're too dumb to either read a comic book or connect the pretty obvious dots

I know it makes it easier for you when you pretend I'm the dumb one, but I'll repeat for the thirtieth time, I've always known that she's bi at the very least. I'm comfortable with that.

I'm pissed that *you guys* expect everyone to know this, somehow. Because there's no men around or that (some really old comics shit happened) That shows an unrealistic expectation for what people should read and retain and an unhealthy view on what sexuality is.

Women aren't just turned magically gay when there's no dicks around. Taking away other men won't make a gay dude stop missing dick.

why is OP queer now?

>Wonder Woman has been making more overt references to her bisexuality since the 80s

Source. So far you guys have have a single page from a comic and the very recent SJW era stuff. Again, nothing explicit and nothing to show that it should be considered "common knowledge".

People would expect it of any character if the person asking went to make a thread about it acting like it was something new.

His "Reason to do so" is that he's obviously interested enough in it to question why it's brought up now, so he's probably interested in it enough to read a wikipedia page.

And again, you don't need to go read all of that old shit to understand her sexuality. I literally haven't read any WW book outside of part of the New 52 Azzarello run, Earth One, and the few Rebirth issues and even I was able to figure out her sexuality.

This whole "No one is going to read old comic books." line is just a deflection for your shitty argument.

If you really think that none of WWs themes have been explored outside of her run in the 40s then you haven't been paying attention. I figured it out with my limited knowledge of her, and other people in this thread have posted examples of other times in comics where her sexuality was referenced. But you conviently ignore them because its easier to repeat your dumbass line about WWII over and over because you can't come up with a better argument.

Seriously, your argument here boils down to "I should be able to ask any question I want, even if it's easily referenced with even the smallest amount of research or critical thinking."

I mean, a person is free to do that, but everybody else is free to get annoyed by it too. Especially when it's pretty obvious that the person asking is taking issue with a "Change" that wasn't really a change in the first place.

>now

bleedingcool.com/2016/09/30/everyone-suddenly-realising-wonder-woman-may-bisexual/

>now

...

>now

trendy SJW pandering

although to be fair I have always wondered how she grew up in an entirely female society and wasn't at least bi

>All those people interested in amazonian scissoring

>People would expect it of any character if the person asking went to make a thread about it acting like it was something new.

And what's the problem with that? Maybe it is new to them. Not everyone notices things. Hell, half the people on your side of this issue still say that I'm too dumb to put two and two together even though I've explicitly said numerous times that I both know and am comfortable with this information.
When you got guys on your side of this argument who can't even keep track of that kind of basic information, should you be throwing stones at dudes who missed something?

>so he's probably interested in it enough to read a wikipedia page.

And like I've also repeatedly said: the Wikipedia page, as I looked at it earlier in this thread, had exactly one reference to "lesbian" an/or "gay" and that was from a quote from seduction of the innocent.

So going there would have helped them how exactly?

>And again, you don't need to go read all of that old shit to understand her sexuality.

Yeah, because they go to the Wikipedia page that doesn't say that she's gay. Dude. Are you paying any attention to your argument at all?

>just a deflection for your shitty argument.

The old comics were arguments *from your side*. I didn't bring up and "in the beginning" shit. I didn't name drop Marsters. I didn't talk about bdsm and equate that with lesbianism. That was your dudes.

>"I should be able to ask any question I want, even if it's easily referenced with even the smallest amount of research or critical thinking."

And your argument is "read the wiki" even though there's nothing in the wikipedia that tells people that she's gay *as of this morning*.

So where's your argument now?

>Women aren't just turned magically gay when there's no dicks around.
I dunno, men might be a different story but women probably would

lurk moar, faggot

>with the fact that he believe that he is a lesbian in a man's body
Rucka is /u/

Breh

Okay, I'm not the user you are arguing with. I want to know, since you clearly don't read comicbooks or at least Wonder Woman comicsbooks, what's the problem? Why does it bother you?

Sexual preference and romance aside, you got an itch, you scratch.

There's something you can insert your peen into, and you're horny as shit, you fuck it. Vgay gets aroused, need some rubbing, ruuub.

Again, the wikipedia page, in tandem with reading pretty much any fucking WW comic should give you a clear enough vision of what WW sexuality is. People keep bringing up her origin because OP said "Now" and her sexuality has been easily decipherable for over 80 years. That doesn't mean you need to go back 80 years to find it, it just means it's been a really long fucking time she's been bi.

Shit, even easier, all OP had to do was read that BleedingCool article posted above that I found in about a second by googling "Wonder Woman Bisexual" this shit is obvious to anyone who would bother to look.

I say let's go full bore. Let have our heroes become inclusive and reflective of other oppressed minority groups, like poor or crippled or obese or ugly.

>there are people suprised by this

she lived on an island full of women. I mean she never saw a man for centuries, it wouldn't make sense.

I never denied that there was the occasional innuendo. You'll find that it's never explicitly stated or in the form of gossip.

From the bleeding cool article, I'll allow that it's been up front in more recent, what I consider the SJW era of comics, but lets look at their examples.

1st image: People are gossiping about her. There's no way to testify to the veracity of what they're saying. It's third party information.

2nd image is just innuendo. She never explicitly says one way or the other.

3rd, if being pro-gay marriage makes you gay then I'm going to have to have a serious talk with my fiance.

4rth is newer than fuck. They don't do innuendo anymore. I'll point out that the only thing gay though is the defeated lady's reaction to getting pinned by Diana. Probably the same reaction anyone would have, honestly.

5th She talks of courting "in the way of my people" not courting "as I am used to." Kids everywhere going on their first date court in the way of their people. lol

See? It's all just innuendo. Seriously. And you guys treat these sly insinuations (which was probably as up front as they could get away with for a very long time) as something people should all know about?

*again, I'll point out that yes, I believe that she's bin (at the very least) and am cool with it*, but this is as good as your proof gets and the closest she gets to saying herself that she likes the vagina is the 80s one, you guys don't really have much of a leg to stand on.

Or maybe let's not focus on those menial irrelevant stuff about the heroes. It doesn't really have a huge part on the purpose of thier heroics. Why not moral compasses or personal demons or dilemmas or villains and anti heroes! Maybe a commentary on vigilante justice or powered individuals among ordinary men...

1. She always has been.

2. You try being a girl spending your formative years around ONLY women. Experimentation's gonna happen.

No one is saying EVERYONE should know about it, but when you make a thread about it saying
>now
Then people are going to make fun of your ignorance

But > Are the animals in Thymiscera limited to females only or issit that the Amazons actually knows about penises and hetero sex because of animal mating season?

>I want to know, since you clearly don't read comicbooks

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>Why does it bother you?

See? This dude thinks I mind this still. No matter how many times I say otherwise. Does anyone mind that he missed obvious explicit information?

No dude, I don't mind, I have missed nothing and I do read comics. Tell, me, since you obviously don't read posts, where exactly you got the impression that I had a problem with whomever Diana fucks?

>Why not moral compasses or personal demons or dilemmas or villains and anti heroes! Maybe a commentary on vigilante justice or powered individuals among ordinary men...
Not socially relevant and too triggering for modern audiences' delicate sensibilities anyway.

so?

>you got an itch, you scratch.

This just isn't so. People don't automatically turn gay when they're locked in prison. It might be way more prevalent, but it's no where near even 50 percent.

Sexualities don't change. If they did there are people being set on fire in Africa who'd like to know how I'm sure.

>Again, the wikipedia page

Which doesn't actually

>in tandem with reading pretty much any fucking WW comic

Yeah, because you guys managed to scrape together maybe 5 pages in the last thirty years. There's like six of you and your best evidence is a page of Diana saying gay marriage is great. lol

Face it. You guys don't have a leg to stand on in this.

>she lived on an island full of women.

People's sexuality aren't chosen by what's available. There's no internal switch that will tip over if there's not enough dick to go around.

This is what it boils down to man. You can tell from the start that this was going to be one of those "SJW ruinin muh comics." threads because they think that they're changing Diana's sexual orientation. A few people in here still kind of went down that alley, but most people just made fun of OP and shut that down pretty early. Which is way better than the thousandth thread about how some neckbeard doesn't like what ever agenda they feel these companies are pushing. Especially when this time it wasn't even a change.

No, we linked five examples because they're easily referenced and people don't feel like finding even more examples to something that has been obvious to anyone who has read the character.

No, we linked five examples because they're easily referenced and people don't feel like finding even more examples to something that has been obvious to anyone who has read the character.

If people quickly found five examples I don't understand why you think that there wouldn't be more.

Yo, what in the fuck is up with Carol's nose? Who in the hell looked at that and said "You know, that looks alright. Send it to the inker"?

You're applying our society's concepts of sexuality and gender to a society where males are at best considered a myth

You know, there is such thing as "dissonace values". In certain countries, like Eastern Europe and Argentina, it's common for both men and women to greet giving kisses in the cheek.

youtu.be/A_br-2a4wmk

lanacion.com.ar/1280680-esos-besos-argentinos-que-los-extranjeros-no-comprenden

>tfw senpai will never notice you

>Sexualities don't change.
Change is the only permanent thing in this world, user. Personality Theories are still theories up until today because they can never become a law. We could study, predict and manipulate but it's all going to be temporary. We are very very flexible in our preferences and predilections. A decade is enough to change a person.

And why do you feel the need to label what pleasures you? You can get aroused without being attracted. Two straight guys can fap together and hj each other but they would still claim, for labeling's sake, that they are straight.

>No, we linked five examples because they're easily referenced

You found a single article you mean. You were wrong about the wiki, your image proof is complete garbage and you're still saying it should be common knowledge, but can't back it up with anything.

Need I remind you that your whole argument is that it should be easy for OP to find this out for himself? And look at the handful of you now, completely failing at that very thing. Nice job fellas.

>If people quickly found five examples

One good example would be better than what you offered.

>How can I be wrong when what is even knowledge anyway my dude.

Oh jesus.

>There are straight guys who fap together

No. There aren't.

Spiderwoman > ww desu

We found a single article with like five examples. You not liking the examples isn't exactly a surprise. You didn't like any of the early examples when people were talking about her origins either.

It's become completely obvious that you're just going to keep moving goal posts and no examples are going to make you admit you're wrong, so it's not really surprsing that no one feels like searching for more examples just for you to find another way to say they're not legitimate.

The current author said it should be obvious that she was at least bi and someone wrote an article and collected examples of why it shouldn't be a surprise that shes bi.

You're just bad at admitting you're wrong.

She is gay for Superman. Go read Dark Knight II and III

And what made you pretty sure that her default sexuality is straight?

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Fag here. I don't know. I mean it used to be a derogatory term for fruit but now I couldn't tell you.

GTFO Bendis

Bitch grew up on a tropical dyke bar and you think she doesn't smash vaj

Ah, I see, so OP could throw questions and we provide reasons/proofs for the probability of her being a pan/bi and I question OP about his stance the tumbler flag is suddenly waved. Ok.

Because good writing is dead.

Because DC is trying to catch up with Marvel's social progressiveness.

Because it's 2016 and Greg Cucka has a fetish for stronk lesbians.

Samefagging so hard.

As much as I wish Wondy was a pure carpet muncher, it is not so.

Wonder Woman fucking the amazons that watched her be born and grow up into womanhood is still a bit fucked up. Some of them even helped raise her.

There are origins where the queen Hippolyta present baby Diana to the rest of the island's amazons as if Diana was also their baby daughter. She was the daughter of the entire island's amazons and treated as such.

So at best, she's fucking her aunts, and at worst she's fucking her mothers. Even if there's no blood relation it is still gross.

If by "gross" you mean "hot".

>now
She has always been bisexual. She pointed out before that she could have a female lover. In practice, however, she never had a girlfriend.

>You not liking the examples isn't exactly a surprise.

I actually went through each and every one if you'll notice.

>You didn't like any of the early examples when people were talking about her origins either.

I said that expecting people to know about her 40s stuff was stupid, yes. Also I didn't agree that portraying her as into bdsm meant that she was a lesbian. One's a kink and does not inform sexuality.

>you're just going to keep moving goal posts

The goal posts are exaclty where they've always been *you* guys act all high and mighty that people don't know that she's gay.

1st you guys say: look at the wikipedia.

There's nothing there.

2nd you guys say look at her origin.

From 80 years ago and that contained bdsm stuff but not lesbian stuff.

3rd: Look at this article

You guys post 5 pages over the last few decades with nothing other than innuendo and her being supporting of things like gay marriage.

The goal posts are here. You keep missing.

>You're just bad at admitting you're wrong.

You're bad at proving you're right. Again, the best you guys can offer for proof that everyone should know? 5 pages of third party gossip at best and otherwise her talking about her culture and not herself.

That's just a fact and you know it.

Because we're all bisexuals.

That support of gay marriage page says a lot more about her sexuality than you think. She's saying that heterosexuality and homosexuality don't exist as concepts on Paradise Island, there is only sexuality. And presumably Amazons like having sex much as anyone, so it is reasonable to assume, based on the mere knowledge that men are a complete non-factor on the island, that if Diana wanted to have sex before she left, she had sex with a woman. All the innuendo is just confirmation of that assumption

I believe the correct term is "indecisive cunt"

Who says you have to choose?

>That support of gay marriage page says a lot more about her sexuality than you think.

wut? Dude. Loads of non-gay people support gay marriage.

>She's saying that heterosexuality and homosexuality don't exist as concepts on Paradise Island

No, she just said it's just called marriage. She didn't say any of that other stuff. You're reading a lot into that panel, lol.

>if Diana wanted to have sex before she left, she had sex with a woman.

There's a difference between wanting sex and having sex and for all we know she could have fucked a goat. What?

See? We know there were goats on the island right? What if she said "we just call goat fucking fucking, would that be proof that she fucked a goat or would it just mean that she knows people have fucked a goat? If you consider that, then you should see that your proof just isn't.

>All the innuendo is just confirmation of that assumption

Innuendo is just innuendo. It's no more a confirmation than a panel with a third parties gossiping about her. It's just not proof.

Not straight, odd, weird

If gayness doesn't exist as a concept, neither does straightness

Just like real-life queers aka tumblr

You know, just because she doesn't come out and say "I have sex with women" doesn't mean it isn't true. You gotta learn to read between the lines a little, dude

>Nico Minoru

Does she even care that her surrogate family is stuck in limbo, I wonder?

>now
She's been implied or straight up confirmed Bisexual multiple times since the fucking 80's.

I don't need someone to name the concept for me to know if I want to fuck something or not.

You guys keep conflating availability with sexuality and that's just wrong on its face. We can see this ever day in prisons all over the world. While homosexual relationships are more prevalent in sexually isolated groups it's by no means a guarantee that dude goes into prison, starts sucking cock. Or vice versa. The ratio of them is still well under 25%.

I repeat, yet again, that no matter how few dudes there are, a gay dude is going to stay gay. A straight dude is going to stay straight. Same for women. There's no variable switch that moves based on availability. You either are or you aren't. (or you're both, obviously)

>doesn't mean it isn't true.

Of course it doesn't. But her coming from an enlightened highly lesbian society is no reason to assume anything about her sexuality unless she says otherwise. Since she never does come out and say it and assumptions make people into asses, it's no surprise that a statement like the recent one might have taken some people unawares and that Cred Forums is, as usual, being a dick to people for absolutely no reason.

I repeat you guys can't prove that she's been historically portrayed as gay so you don't have a leg to stand on when you say that it's obvious and that people should have "just known."

Gender doesn't exist as a concept for them, so you need to stop trying to apply real-world logic to it because prison populations are in no way applicable to this situation

if you have to ask, you´re not ready for the answer.

Look dude, if you think she's talking about masturbation here, you're pretty thick

wasn't she sort of always?

Yes, but they tip-toed around it because of CCA and homosexuality not being socially accepted until very recently

I honestly don't see how anyone could possibly be surprised by this outcome

Have any of you who are surprised by this ever read or watched anything Wonder Woman? Amazons clearly fooled around with each other. There's no way they didn't.

Because Rucka is a cuckold

>"Now"

If Cred Forums is seriously opposed to this it just shows ridiculously off the anti-SJW deep end they've gone. If ever there was a single character you could excuse Queering, it's Wonder Woman.

The only reason she WASN'T queer earlier was because of the comics code. That's a huge part of the reason why we have so few Queer characters in the first place, and nobody cares when characters like Storm or Wolverine are Straighted behind the scenes. But anti-SJWs don't seem to care about actual censorship, just muh feminists ruining muh comics.

she always was

(((current year)))

cry me a river faggot

Finally a moment to post the beathiful truth
youtube.com/watch?v=Qpsx-OWHfNc

This guy gets it

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>Face it. You guys don't have a leg to stand on in this.

>she lived on an island of only women for centuries
>she's totally never eaten pussy, you guys!

It literally just means faggot

Intersex people are the result of nondisjunction, and are generally sterile, not mutants

t. triggered numale

Lesbian sex is just mutual masturbation and foreplay :^)

This, right here. It's the first thing I thought of, when I heard the concept. I was fucking 10.

They took away literally everything that makes her a woman besides her irrational behavior. All that's left is the official announcement from Marlel that she's getting a sex change and becoming Carl Danvers.

>knows nothing about WW
>threads his own post
cringeworthy

> Women
> Bro out

youtube.com/watch?v=lrF5x1OSJuQ

>t.
newfag detected

>doesn't like short hair
>thinks long hair is necessary for someone to be feminine
Closeted homosexual detected

>gave her literally a popular male haircut
>gave her a massive breast reduction
>took away her feminine curves
>covered her from head to toe
>constantly draws her manish as fuck

You sound like the fag here, pal.

It used to mean "Unusual and/or Peculiar; Weird", and not in a good way. It was hijacked by the LGBTQWTFBBQ crowd to make themselves unique special snowflakes, but now that everyone there uses it the term is no longer special.

Hopefully that answers the question.

>They took away literally everything that makes her a woman besides her irrational behavior
And here we find a 14-year old boy who just got rejected for the first time

>now
ITT retards who don't realize WW was queer since day one. Marston was in a polyamourous relationship with two women and was into it.

>LGBTQWTFBBQ

I snorted to kek.

Keep in mind that when someone finally commented "yes, Harley and Ivy have sex" instead of dancing around the issue for years there were a bunch of threads much like this one.

Thing is the changes were extreme and drastic, people will speculate and assume that the writers and artists are foreshadowing and laying down subtexts. There's a lot of innuendos around her and Jess too. I'd still say she's straight.

Here's how it works you retards. If you lived in a world, where you only experienced 1 thing, in this case gender, what would you be attracted to? It certainly is not a penis because you have never seen that shit before. As in you don't know it fucking exists. So on an island...of only women, with no males present, no penis present, what would you fuck? This shit is not fucking rocket science you god damn retards. I fucking swear to god, if you faggots were left alone you would all eat paint thinner or bleach cause "I wasn't told it was bad for me". fuck

I'm 28

>no penis present

>Are the animals in Thymiscera limited to females only or issit that the Amazons actually knows about penises and hetero sex because of animal mating season?

If given the opportunity, Rucka will always put a strong woman who seems like she stepped out of some cable crime drama as the lead character in his books. If ignored he'll make her a lesbian.

Wonder how long it'll be before he forces Sasha Bordeaux, his OC waifu only he cares about, into Wonder Woman.

>who do you think an island full of women have sex with if not each other?

Uh well, no one? Why would they have a need for sex in the first place? Sex isn't like breathing, you don't need it to live.

>Wonder how long it'll be before he forces Sasha Bordeaux, his OC waifu only he cares about, into Wonder Woman.
He already did in the latest issue.

Lurk moar and read more you gigantic faggot.

Has Wonder Woman ever NOT been bisexual? In any continuity?

Please go back to tumblr or reddit or whatever.
just leave or stop talking about things you know nothing about.

Timmverse

Means that fellers a lil funny if ya know what I mean.

> NOW

Connect the fucking dots.

Glad to be of service.

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God he's so fucking predictable.

>now
dude, she's Amazonian
she's gotta have some of that slit-thirst in her

>now

>No one on this board right now had a father who was alive when that shit was being published. lol

Wrong.

> now

Maybe to you it's now

I was under the impression that Amazons saw each other as comrades and friends. No sexual urges between them at all.

How do Amazons get pregnant in an island with no men?

>LGBTCIA

if only

>How do Amazons get pregnant in an island with no men?

Casual spotted.

Yes, thanks for pointing that out. Now answer the question.

>hurr durr this guy asked a question what a casual

They rape men from outside the island and only keep the girls.

Elseworld stay away.

She's always been a lesbian into bondage only recently discovering she might be bisexual since she was created.

All that's changed is that they're less subtle about it.

The Amazons in Greek mythology, which these are based around, weren't gay. Their queen even had a relationship with Heracles.

She's been into bondage and women from the start, but SJWs want to feel special.

>bisexual meme
You're either straight, gay or a degenerate slut driving in two way traffic. There's no middle ground.

No, in one of the myths their queen was raped by Theseus, after being kidnapped and sold by Herakles.

Even in the myths that Hippolyta gave her girdle willingly to Herakles, there's no sex and he ends up killing her after the amazons attack his ship.

Bisexuality isn't being straight, ya dingus. You can't fuck both guys and girls and still be straight.

>now

You'd have to be a turbo newfag not to recognize that she was implied to at least be bi since her creation.

Her creator was bisexual, and Diana spent 5,000 years on an island with only women. Take the hint, people.

>b-b-but this ruins her character somehow

If the possibility of watching a hot chick in armor make out with other hot chicks in armor "ruins" Wonder Woman for you, then please let us know more about your love of hard cocks.

No need for new births when everyone is blessed by the gods and immortal.

this guy gets it

>Diana spent 5,000 years on an island with only women. Take the hint, people.

That doesn't mean she will be lesbian. If gay guy lives with a island full of women.

Does that mean he will turn into a straight or bisexual?

People needs to stop making that stupid excuse.

>now
You act as if it was all new.

You are really only realising it now? How new are you to DC?

>I'm just annoyed that this appears to be making every Amazon at least prison gay.
>WW being queer mean all the amzone are
that's not how logic work, bra.