Will Infinity War have characters with arcs and personalities and motivations or will it just be a two hour long SFX...

Avengers: Infinity Cast

>winter soldier and civil war were based to all hell
Only good thing from Civil War was the third act, stop this meme.

How? I assumed they're bringing the cosmic characters in, but the street level characters too?

Well how else would they provide the high body count?

>marlel villain
>having an arc

holy kek, you can't be this stupid

Loki.

They have to focus all their quips into one big mega quip to defeat Thanos.

>capeshit villain
>arc
Only Loki and Luthor comes to my mind.

> le everything but the 3rd act was good contrarian meme with no proof
no you stop. it was great

>Everyone says Movie War did better than Comics War
>It made almost literally all the same dumbass mistakes as the comic

>There's no Cap or no main character, so it has to be Thanos.

Jesus fuck I would say go take an English Comp 101 class but you 're probably right and should take the writer of this mess with you.

Name at least 3 good music tracks from the movie.
Post one scene where the cinematography was good.
Justify the excessive quips during the """"war"""" scene.

Let's be honest, i doubt this would be better with Whedon.
Say what you want about Civil War, but it was probably the best Avengers movie of the MCU.

67 characters includes heroes, villains and supporting characters.

Who's confirmed so far

>Captain America
>Iron Man
>Thor
>Hulk
>Black Widow
>Hawkeye
>Scarlet Witch
>Vision
>Winter Soldier
>Doctor Strange
>Captain Marvel
>Nick Fury
>Star-Lord
>Gamora
>Drax
>Groot
>Rocket
>Loki
>Thanos
>Mistress Death

That alones rakes 21 characters. Add no-brainers like Falcon, War Machine, Spider-Man, Black Panther, Ant-Man, Wasp, Nebula, Yondu and Mantis and we go up to 30.

The Russos already said we'll be seeing some unique villains fighting for Thanos rather than just faceless hordes, which will add some numbers, plus we're going to check by all the main supporting players. The Russos are trying to get Pepper in, and they'll definitely catch up on people like Odin, Sif, the Warriors Three, General Ross, Peggy, Sharon, Pym, Janet, Mordo, Wong, Aunt May, etc.

All in all, 67.

Why the fuck would anyone want the Netflix guys in it? The cast is already way to big as is and there's no way to juggle them all in a satisfactory way

Ah, yes, the meme complaints from Cred Forums because you can't fault the movie on a storytelling and acting level.

Let's be real here, are there even 67 important MCU characters?
Are there even 20?
I think these websites are adding up the irrelevant characters/actors just to get clicks.

I don't care how "based" the Russos are there's no way this doesn't turn out to a mess and there's no way Marvel will make money off the film. RDJ's pay in itself is expensive as fuck

Short scene of the earth heroes kicking kree's ass?

>there's no way this doesn't turn out to a mess and there's no way Marvel will make money off the film

Listen to yourself, man.

>Jan 2016

>The Russos already said we'll be seeing some unique villains fighting for Thanos rather than just faceless hordes

If that's true then it might be cool to see them use the Blood Brothers, if only in a cameo roll.

>Justify the excessive quips during the """"war"""" scene.

All of the involved were holding back and knew how stupid was the situation that they were forced to be by the circunstances. From the perspective of the writter it was a moment frente the movie to get more light and fun, before it gets darker. It was also loved by public reception. Are you autistic?

film is a visual medium tho

Assuming Earth is invaded, it'd be cool to see them in their little corner of New York City fighting off the invaders. I love this trope.

>>Russos just say a high number off the top of their heads.
>>Fans go nuts trying to count them all.
Every single fucking time.

They will make money from the merch but they barely broke even on Civil War because of it's ridiculous price tag. Now were' going to have everything from RDJ to CGI Hulk, Rocket and Thanos.

>there's no way Marvel will make money off the film

Are you fucking retarded? So what the last 13 movies have just been a massive fluke? I honestly only enjoy like three of the MCU movies but to say that they don't know how to make money is just insanity.

>All of the involved were holding back and knew how stupid was the situation that they were forced to be by the circumstance

How about they talk like adults for 2 minutes then ?

>they barely broke even on Civil War because of it's ridiculous price tag.

source?

>So what the last 13 movies have just been a massive fluke?

Not all of them made a profit. Hulk was a flop and they lost money on First Avenger

There's no way of laying this out where it doesn't still sound like a bloated fucking mess

Scarlett Johannsen couldn't act and looked like she was about to burst out laughing in every scene she was in.

The story was repetitive at times. Had a bunch of filler that didn't add anything, the pace was kind of slow.

I still liked it, but it definitely had flaws. What's your response to the other guy then?

You do know the production on Civil War cost 250mil and the effects looked like ass.

67 characters means 67 characters.
Not 67 leads, not 67 superheroes, 67 characters including something like a Maria Hill or Dr Selvig cameo, love interests, and things like "Nova officer" "US Congressman 2" and "Girl in diner".
Expect something like Civil War, except with focus more diffused equally around the team, and on Thanos. I fully expect everything else to be there to fill in the background.

>they lost money on First Avenger

source?

His ass.

But they were.

Have you ever been on the army? Its not uncommon to joke when the stakes aren't mortal, even more regarding conflicts between soldiers.

Why would it need to? That's why they give you individual movies beforehand.

>he actually thinks more than 6 characters will have a particularly strong role
Nigga, the netflix characters would just be cool cameos for the charge scene

>Frank just using his entire arsenal on aliens.

>Jessica Jones being thrown into a bar and taking a drink before leaping back out

It writes itself. Can't come up with scenarios for Daredevil, Cage and Iron Fist, tho.

INFINITE QUIPS

I CANT WAIT TO WRITE MY MEDIUM THINKPIECE ABOUT HOW THE QUIPS ARE AN ALLEGORY FOR #BLACKLIVESMATTER

You guys are missing the point.

Cred Forums has the inteligence of a horny 12 years old kid, that tries to be smart. They actually think that a movie should focus on all the characters equally, instead of going by the view of some few, like any writter would do.

Budget was 140mil
Advertising would be at least half so 70mil
Domestic 176mil
Foreign 193mil
50% of Domestic leaves 88mil
And I'll be generous and say a studio gets half of the foreign take (It doesn't) 96mil
88 + 96 = 184
Production + budget was 210
184 - 210 = -26mil

Apparently scarlet Witch and the Vision have pretty prominent roles in this one.

Yeah it wold be cool. But in an already bloated cast it's an expense they don't need. This isn't comics or cartoons where you can draw whatever the fuck you want

That's not the point.
The point is this is a bait thread by a Cred Forums poster that's about ten seconds away from going "Oh but it's okay when Marvel does it you Disneyshills" in order to defend BvS yet again.
The point is that the MCU is popular and successful, and that means they have to hate it because they're a bunch of pedophilic contrarian hipsters.

>Name at least 3 good music tracks from the movie.
Closure
Cap's Promise
Ancestral Call

Is this bait? You can't seriously think anyone is going to take this bullshit seriously.

Post a source that backs up your claims.

user, this entire thread is poorly done Cred Forums bait.

Adagio and Siberian Overture too.
youtube.com/watch?v=bBM8rKHbIFk
youtube.com/watch?v=N1d8Lylko-c

>Is this bait?

It's the math people use to see how a movie did. I was even generous as to only put the marketing at half and gave half the foreign take. It likely did worse than that. We can't go changing the rules because it's your precious MCU

We all know you had to look up the names just then

>It's the math people use

Which people?

Nah, some of the OST was good, but generally it's weak than TWS.

>something is popular
>Cred Forums hates it.

This is the original meme. The alpha and omega, the beginning of memes and the end as well.

They might throw the SHIELDfags a bone and throw in a couple of TV character cameos.

>Justify the excessive quips during the """"war"""" scene.

It's a movie and is meant to be entertaining.

>something is popular
>Cred Forums hates it.
Nope, that's Cred Forums. Cred Forums likes Rick and Morty despite Reddit loving it.

Seriously when you half the BO take it only leaves $185mil, so unless the marketing only cost 45 million they probably did lose money on that one or broke even. It's no big deal though. It was one of the first films

That costs money for actors nobody gives a fuck about

>It's a movie and is meant to be entertaining.

You could just be honest about it being a children's movie if that's your excuse

And only one of the points posted were related to a visual medium.

I haven't been in a R&M thread on Cred Forums since season 2 started that didn't feature some idiot talking shit about how the show's gotten worse as a focal point of discussion. This will only get worse going into season 3 now that the show is widely beloved by the "normies".

Just stomping aliens.

Cage can get blasted and stand there like "really?"

And Danny goes all kung fu on aliens.

Matt...flips about and shit

>movie about men in spandex beating the shit out of each other isn't high-brow entertainment.

Stop the presses.

Cage and Fist kick ass while Matt faces the other way.

>My movies are shit on purpose!

You can't come up with a scenario for the karate man? You already wrote it, just replace "Frank" with "Danny" and "arsenal" with "Karate"

It will be the greatest CGI shitfest of all time

>Wasting all this time and money on Netflix nobodies

Not with current Hollywood, lads.

>if it is a movie for and beloved by all ages movie, it is shit!

>You could just be honest about it being a children's movie
I don't see anyone being dishonest about it.
At least with regards to Marvel movies.

>just replace "Frank"

No

>Can't differentiate between "shit" and differing levels of artistic aspiration.

Not ever author wants to be Mark Z. Danielewski or whoever the /lit/ kids are nutting over now.

Cred Forums people that need to jump through hoops and keep coming up with ways to make sure movies they don't like didn't make money.

You fucking nigger

Honestly though it probably didn't make money. The average cost for marketing a movie in 2007 was 35 million

To be fair those were the numbers he used. Budget doesn't including marketing and they don't get all that Box Office money

Remember user Suicide Squad is still a massive flop

>holy kek
Greetings, Reddit.

Everything related to superheroes is for children, and whoever denies this is a manchild.

Superhero porn parodies?

Graphic novels?

>Graphic novels?

"That pompous phrase was thought up by some idiot in the marketing department of DC. I prefer to call them Big Expensive Comics." - Alan Moore

“[I write graphic novels not comics books?] Meant as a compliment I suppose. But all of a sudden I felt like someone who’d been informed that she wasn’t actually a hooker; that in fact she was a lady of the evening.” – Neil Gaiman

Is right. Capes should be for kids first and foremost. Doesn't mean I can't partake. Being an adult isn't "don't read things for kids". It's "Be confident enough in your own maturity to cop to it"

The Russos have said they want to give a handful of chracters arcs while the rest will be more auxiliary

>Alan Moore

has-been hipster faggot who hates things because they're popular.

Agreeing with him pretty much proves you wrong.

>it's a Cred Forums is so fucked the Cred Forums crossposters forget which board they're shitposting on thread

>has-been hipster faggot who hates things because they're popular.
...But Alan Moore is popular, and you're a never were that hates him.

>Civil War didn't even have that many quips and they were never in serious scenes
>People still complain about them

Orange slices?

The airport scene needed less quips and good editing.

Most quips were from Spidey.
And quipping his way trough fights is basically one of Spidey's selling points.

Cred Forums has an aneurysm if a movie uses more than three quips.

Only you can stop quipposting.

Yeah, it's mostly DCfags and Cred Forumstards. God forbids a cape movie be fun. Gotta defend muh man of murder grit.

>will it just be a two hour long SFX sizzle reel with famous actors' heads pasted on
Yes

Did you not read Infinity War?

>two hour long SFX sizzle reel with famous actors' heads pasted on?

Well that's pretty much what Civil War was so I'm guessing yeah.

It's fucking 8 years of increasingly shittier jokes. Some people are getting sick of them.

>Marvel
>Movies are better than the TV shows

>DC
>TV shows are better than the movies

???

The 67 characters thing is BS.

>It's a LITERALLY EVERYONE forgets there's gonna be two movies episode

Come on, guys.
We know they're not going to be direct sequels to eachother anymore, but you'd be retarded to think they're not going to wrap up the Captain America/Winter Solider business in the first one, and save Thanos and the cosmic fireworks for the second one.

Of course it fucking is. What studio can afford 67 name actors when one of them is Robert "50mil for Civil War" Downey Jr

Just having everyone from CW, The Guardians, Thor & Hulk , Strange, Fury and maybe Carol will be very expensive and difficult to juggle

Will Infinity War be the most expensive movie ever?

Yes, just show how much of a fucking jobber Thanos forces are by letting them get their asses kicked by street levelers again, that sure worked wonderfully in the first two Avengers films.

To be honest this is a challenge but most characters don't need an arc. Huge ensemble comics don't give big arcs to every character. They don't need to. Give an arc to Iron Man, Tony, maybe Thor or a couple others and make the arcs develop together, everyone else just needs to show up for a couple scenes.

>two hour long
Civil War was almost 3 hours long, so I expect a 3 hr movie this time, I'd say 3 1/2, but movie theathers actually push studios to don't produce movies that last more than 3 hours.

Making the movie over 3 hours really would be a mistake. Such a long movie would limit repeat viewings and cinemas wouldn't be able to get in as many showings.

Maybe. Adjusted for inflation On Stranger Tides is the most expensive at almost 400mil. The studio apparently lied about it's $250mil budget. With such a large cast and the effects need I can see Infinity War getting out of hand

>it'll make civil war look like a fan film

It already looks like a fan film, the cinematography is terrible.

"Netflix" heroes excluded then?

They were never going to be included. They have to pay for the actors, pay for the effects in there fight scene and you take away time from the movie cast in an already bloated movie. I agree that it would be cool but it's just impractical

Honestly how would you even introduce them among a million other characters and what good would street-level guys really do anyway

DC could barely handle 3, along with those guys in those snapchat videos. I'm afraid for what Marvel might do

My problem with that is that they take a little bit of time to remind you that they live in the same universe. It's kinda irritating that even when they do that they'll forget them when something that threatens the entire universe apppears

Why bring up DC at all?

Comparison and contrast. It's like you don't wanna learn from others mistakes

It's just b8 m8. You could easily make comparisons to the ensemble movies Marvel has done in the past like Avengers and Civil War.

Though to play with what you're saying a lot of people in this very thread seem to be happy with the movie doing what SS did. have a large cast but give attention pretty much solely to Iron Man (Harley) and Cap (Deadshot) with the rest pretty much being toy soldiers. Sure we can make the excuse they have past movies but it seems like a waste of interesting characters just have them throw around attacks in the background

Main Protags:
Steve
Tony
Thor
Wanda
Vision
Thanos
Loki

Well, that's a thing about shared universe. There always will be division lines that might seem unnatural.

>Russos
>Vision

The Russos are shit scared of him and the power creep his existence represents. Thanos is gonna kill him getting that Gem

Magneto
Doom
Dr Ock
That jean grey clone, forgot her name

Im sure theres a couple more

...

Celestial Bodies is beautiful.

That's why I'm irritated. Marvel wanted the extra publicity from the "they are in the same universe" shtik, but when they have to do something like that they back down.

Either go all in or don't.

Not before being smashed to fuck by Chaos Magic, that will scare the crap out of him.

It's hinted at in Civil War that there may be a way for Vision to survive.

Yeah but something like infinity war probably should not have many of those lines.

I don't know why the Russos are so afraid of the more powerful characters, they seem to prefer hand-to-hand combat which greatly worries me for Infinity War.

It would be pretty cool if they could fit in, but audience of movies is far greater than any show meaning that it would have to be an inconsequential cameo or a clumsy re-introduction.

What are the chances that several characters will just be Loki illusion shit?

Well yeah, Fox and Sony handle Marvel villains better than Marvel Studios themselves.

inb4 the nurse turns up working at the Avenger's medical facility.

>it's a quantity over quality with something for everyone episode

The original Avengers movie didn't really have a plot per se out of the most basic necessities. Now reason the big blowoff can't be that either.

MCU has been almost consistent quality though. Expecially with Avengers. Just check RT

>RT
>metric for quality
the normie brainwash is fucking pathetic.

It hasn't been wrong on calling out bad movies for what they are so far.

When they say "67 characters", they mean every MCU hero so far will be seen at some point in the movie saving an old lady or moving some rubble or some shit.
>hey guys, look, Daredevil's helping!
>I saw Ghost Rider!

Are you just saying this because Vision wasn't awkwardly crammed into a movie that already had too many characters awkwardly crammed it?

You're right on that but it has been wrong on inflating the quality of weak movies due to spectacle. The first Avengers for example has aged like complete shit and itnmany respects is a pretty poor film but it's at 92% simply because of how not awful a massive superhero team up movie turned out.

Same here. Kinda wish they had these "67 characters" in Civil War though
But I guess that would have been too much buildup

>67 characters
>only

It's a joke you autist

"Civil War" is a personal conflict rooted in politics. Vision and Scarlet Witch are just too broken and out of everyone else's league, so they have to be sidelined.

In "Infinity War" the stakes are much higher and they'll get the let loose.

I wish it would feel like LOTR

I wish that about every big budget epic since LotR but it ain't happening

it so easy to spot Cred Forums shitposters honestly i think they're the only ones who makes live action superhero movies threads

its not a prediction engine user. It judges movies based on the time theyre released and for its time it was the first major super hero team up movie with converging solo characters

So did they give like 3/4ths of the budget to Johnny Depp? Because other then the Mermaid sequence, Pirates 4 was pretty weak when it came to supernatural special effects stuff. The voodoo zombies were basically just regular dudes.

>read the original novel in my teens
>love it
>it gets adapted as the fourth chapter in a shitty franchise

please speak english spic. this is a american website.

>American website
>owned by a Japanese man
>about to be bought by a Jew
¿Qué?

Exactly 100% right. That's why it shouldn't be considered the be all end all arbiter of quality.

I know of many demanding movie critics who panned the movie since day one.

Congratulations. Many critics pan or love every movie since day one. it's the internet.

The userbase is mostly American.

But the owner isn't, so shut up and take it like a bitch, Billy Ray.

That's not an argument, senpai.

>senpai
See?

No. I'm just a faggot.

Quality posts as always Cred Forums

Then take it like a bitch; you like it after all.

Someone asked them at Wizard World Comic Con this year in Cleveland and they said it was probably closer to 70. But that could all change

Reminder that character moments is what killed AoU's pacing (not that I minded them).

>67 character moments
Why don't they make a Broadway musical with it?

Turning from a literal nobody to comic relief

Wew, what an arc.

>literal nobody
Only if you're a casual, user.

Great observational skills

I'm talking MCU, and in the MCU he was nothing right after in the Avengers and Thor 2 they turned him to the Quipper

>Budget gets ran into the ground trying to pay RDJ so they have to reshoot it as a feature length clipshow

>67 characters.
>The movie will be less than an hour and a half long.

A couple heroes will be the main heroes. Probably Iron Man and Cap. Captain Marvel will be a main character in part 2.

The Guardians will get to do some cool team thing.

Most characters will just be there to punch things.

Please tell me that this movie will represent the end of the MCU fad.

It's only the beginning.

Marveldrone here, not gonna lie: Infinity War is looking to be an ever-escalating clusterfuck. I don't think Marvel has adequately figured out how to set up Thanos over the course of Phase Two, and I don't think they're suddenly going to figure out.

How many movies are they going to split this into?

The cast is just too damn big.

Of the end? Sure.

Two.

And it's not that big.

Pathetic