Does it take place before the Civil Wars movie? eause if it is set after, Shouldn't Tony come down on his ass for being an enhanced human acting without being sanctioned?
Because the Sokovia accords basically forbid Luke to do what he is doing. So it only make sense if it was set before it.
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Before registration, roughly the same time as Daredevil Season 2, so no, Luke doesn't have the threat of Avengers backed LEOs to come after him. NEXT season though, we'll probably see the Jim Crow angle that Luke applies in the comics to the superhuman registration act to the sokovia accords, though I don't know if he'll be on the map or not for the 'bigger' names.
I was under the impression that the Sokovia Accords only applied to superheroes operating internationally in some official capacity.
Tony didn't even know ant-man after he broke into his base. He doesnt consider anything besides the avengers.
So Maria faked her dead son to guilt trip Iron Man?
The sokovia accord concern all of the enhanced humans.
There's footage of him freely available online. It even "went viral". There's no way he's not on someone's watchlist.
I shouldn't have watched all the episodes at once. And then there are all these threads here.
I keep thinking of black people and wondering what colour the head of Luke Cage's penis is. Is it reddish or brownish? If it's red, it would be lovely.
I'm not even gay. I blame Marvel.
wu?
Same actress different character, though I could see Black Mariah playing a bit for Zemo, I don't think this character would risk her power or her seat.
Tony doesn't give a shit about Harlem.
Thank you. Updating my MCu timeline/watchlist (trying to not break AoS as little as possible, only breaking it with movie because it has the most apparent impact and is meant to be fit in)
(between parentheses are the Marvel One Shot: short 10-15 minutes movies)
Iron Man 1
Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
(A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer)
Thor
(The Consultant)
Captain America
Agent Carter Season 1 and 2 (and coming soon, 3)
(Agent Carter)
Avengers
(Item 47)
Ironman 3
(All Hail the King)
>Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 1 (episode 1 to 7: "The Hub")
Thor 2:Dark world
>Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 1 (episode 8 to 16: "End of the Beginning")
Captain America 2 Winter Soldiers
>Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 1 (episode 17 to 22: "Beginning of the End")
Guardians of the Galaxy
>DareDevil Season 1
>Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 2 (episode 1 to 19: "The Dirty Half Dozen")
Avengers 2: Age of Ultron
>Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 2 (episode 20 to 22: "S.O.S.")
Ant-Man
>Jessica Jones Season 1
>Daredevil season 2
>Luke Cage
>Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 3 (episode 1 to 19: "Failed Experiments")
Captain America: Civil War
>Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 3 (episode 20 to 22: "Ascension")
>Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 4
The heads of black guys cocks are usually the same color as their lips.
>Last school year only had one movie (Civil War).
kind of strange, somehow...
Nah, Cage doesn't have anything else solo planned that would allow that.
He's going to spend all of Iron Fist in prison trying to prove his innocence and he'll get out just in time to participate in the Defenders. In fact I bet Matt will expedite his release due to some threat he learns of which is what forms the Defenders in the first place.
Here the secret:
The Netflix shows ignores the movies outside of a few broad nonspecific references used for cheap world building and a easter eggs because the Netflix shows are good and the movies are bad.
All of the MCU movie are great. Only one I was a bit disappointed was Civil War.
>people still praise the terrible movie that was Winter Soldier
just because it pretended to be noir for the first 30 minutes doesn't make it a good movie
I'm pretty sure the first two episodes of The Defenders will be about Claire the cuban slut convicing Matt to take up Carl Lucas case and busting his ass out of prison by proving his innocence with the documents that the best negro has.
I don't think it ever pretended to be Noir. It's a good movie because it has good story, character you care about and great choreography.
How is she a Slut? I mean, no really, not even trying to whit knight, on a deep rational level, how is she a Slut.
The closer to intimacy we have ever seen her so far is kissing Luke Cage once and that's it. Luke is more of a Slut than the nurse (The guy literally kiss the nurse in front of the police officer he had fucked earliest).
Fuck, out of all the Netflix MCU characters, she might be the only one who hasn't got sex so far. The fuck is up with that?
>good story
The story plays out in about 40 minutes and the rest is filler, they kill the big "mystery" less than halfway through the movie, and the final 20 minutes is a pointless fight that takes place after the plot is resolved
>characters you care about
Fury yes, but he's out early. Cap, meh. Bucky and Widow? Who gives a fuck?
>great choreography
No better than the rest of the shakey-cam MCU. Netflix' choreography is lightyears ahead
are we sure?
because it seemed to only affect the Avengers.
I dont have time to read the whole thread but werent the accords SPECIFCALLY for the avengers?
The movie isn't centred around the mystery.
> and the rest is filler,
Man, no, eveyrthing is justified in the movie.
>and the final 20 minutes is a pointless fight that takes place after the plot is resolved
It's a fucking action movie. Defeating the villain is as much part of the plot as discovering what he has been up to.
>Fury yes, but he's out early. Cap, meh. Bucky and Widow? Who gives a fuck?
I do (and Captain too)
>No better than the rest of the shakey-cam MCU. Netflix' choreography is lightyears ahead
WS has some of the best fight scene of the MCU
>shackey-cam
Bru, there is no abuse of Shackey cam in WS. The action is clear at every second of it.
>the movie isn't centered around the mystery
It is until they drop the mystery entirely and accelerate the pacing to lightspeed because they balked at having a real movie and they needed a big threat for cap to punch repeatedly. So now instead of following a trail to uncover a conspiracy, the conspiracy just outs itself and uses giant fortresses to force the plot forward. Then they run out of movie so they draw out the end fight.
>beating bucky is part of the plot
Not even slightly. The plot ends as soon as the AI weapon is disarmed. The fight between two supermen we know are both going to survive is just pointless and boring, fights need stakes.
>there's no shakey-cam
Yes there is. It's nowhere near as egregious as in the first part of Civil War (gave me a fucking migraine) but it's there.
>Fuck, out of all the Netflix MCU characters, she might be the only one who hasn't got sex so far.
I can tell you didn't watch DD Season 1. Matt was balls deep in cuban several times...
>It is until they drop the mystery entirely and accelerate the pacing to lightspeed because they balked at having a real movie
It is a real movie. And it's not a "solve the mystery" kind of movie. it is a "locate and defuse the bomb" kind of movie. why you isnsist the "defuse" part doesn't count as being movie is beyond me, but it's a perfectly legit kind of story telling regardless.
>Not even slightly. The plot ends as soon as the AI weapon is disarmed.
There is a thing called "character ark",you know. as well as "escape out of the danger zone". Jsut because you call them nothing doesn't mean they actually are.
> fights need stakes.
There was fucing stakes, they were onboard a crashing heli-carrier.
>Yes there is.
Don't make me say what I didn't. I said there is no ABUSE of it and what we see convey the action very clearly and is in no way headache inducing.
I don't remember that. I am pretty sure she only treated him.
>It's not this it's that!
It changes halfway through, which is the whole problem
>character arc
Whose? Bucky's? That's not for another movie. Cap's? His character doesn't change during the Bucky fight. It was a fight for a fight's sake and there were no stakes nor any reason to show it. It was the definition of pointless.
>They were on-board a crashing helicarrier!
Which means nothing when even a 5 year old can tell they're both going to get out unscathed and the day has already been saved
>It changes halfway through, which is the whole problem
It fdoes not change halfway through. the movie is centered about stopping the threat, not simply discovering it.
>Whose? Bucky's? That's not for another movie. Cap's? His character doesn't change during the Bucky fight.
It's about Bucy having to stat rediscover himself. Fuck the whole movie step up that confrontation.
>. It was a fight for a fight's sake
It was a fight for first
-stopping the heli-cariers
-Cap actually confronting Bucky and making him remember who he is. the stake is Bucky's own identity and their survival.
>Which means nothing when even a 5 year old can tell they're both going to get out unscathed and the day has already been saved
If you have issues with that, then watching MCU movies (or reading cape comics) is pointless in the first place. You are aware no one stay dead in cape comics, right?
If you decide not to look closely, then all the Netflix shows would fit well right after Avengers 1 and before everything else since that's the only thing they reference.
However if you do look closely, at dates on newspapers and things like that, then the Netflix shows have to take place in real time and Luke Cage would be post Civil War.
The only headcanon I can think of to put Luke Cage post Civil War is that S.H.I.E.L.D. is watching him and decided not to interfere for the time being because they are busy with the Inhuman stuff.
>Agent Carter season 3
user, I...
>The only headcanon I can think of to put Luke Cage post Civil War is that S.H.I.E.L.D. is watching him and decided not to interfere for the time being
Dude, everyone know about Luke, not just SHIELD. He was in the news everywhere.
Yeah, I updated my list.
I was hoping the season 3 would be the tie-in to the Agent carter One Shot.
I know, that's what I meant. It's established in AoS that S.H.I.E.L.D. is travelling around registering enhanced people and enforcing the Sokovia Accords.
So they must have a team spying on Cage and have decided to leave him alone for the time being.
>However if you do look closely, at dates on newspapers and things like that, then the Netflix shows have to take place in real time and Luke Cage would be post Civil War.
Can you have quote and screen cap confirming that?
>It's about Bucy having to stat rediscover himself. Fuck the whole movie step up that confrontation.
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like? You've got to be kidding me. I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that?
Have you basic comprehension issues?
Bucky having to recover his old identity back.
The movie setting up the final confrontation between Cap and WS all along.
Everyone has understood what it means.
Agents of Shield is not canon with the movies
The Netflix series' are not canon with the movies
Marvel has been explicit about this.
>it doesn't change halfway through
yes it does, the movie changes dramatically after the underground lab scene
>no superhero fight could ever have tension or stakes!
Oh fuck you, previous fights in the same goddamned movie had stakes because the consequences of the fight went beyond our indestructible protagonist. That's how these things always work.
>le non canon meme
Please stop. You're not convincing anyone.
>Marvel has been explicit about this.
Except that's not true at all.
The movie department and TV department not only aren't coordinated, they actively hate each other. Old fucks fired from the movie department got pushed to TV which is why they don't communicate and why AoS is not canon.
The Netflix shows are more ambiguous.
No it doesn't. It's entire purpose is to regulate the Avengers, not of whom are even enhanced.
>Claire the cuban slut
You got friendzoned by one girl too many?
That's poetic.
>yes it does, the movie changes dramatically after the underground lab scene
Ever heard of multi-acts movie? Ever seen the first Mission Impossible movie? It's actually made of 3 acts.
In inter Soldier, it's a 2 acts movie. First acts: identify the threat. Second Acts stop the threats.
>no superhero fight could ever have tension or stakes!
Don't make me say what I didn't. this movie had stakes. Two old frind fighting onbaourd a crashing heli-crarrier. Your complain was that you knew they would survive anyway, but if that's your issue, then MCU movies aren't fore you.
>because the consequences of the fight went beyond our indestructible protagonist
This fight has consequences tow: Bucky's memory.
>Agents of Shield is not canon with the movies
>The Netflix series' are not canon with the movies
Yes they are canon
>Marvel has been explicit about this.
No they haven't. Joss Whedhon even explicitely said AoS was canon.
>Joss Whedon deciding anything important
Yeah, no.
Not to mention that the article literally ends by saying Whedon is an idiot.
And the whole "the departments hate each other" bullshit you just said wasn't backed up by your article.
>The movie department and TV department not only aren't coordinated, they actively hate each other.
And?
I still see no official Marvel Statement about Canon.
> and why AoS is not canon.
It's Canon.
>changing the entire tone and style of the movie is the same as an act change
>Winter Soldier is a 2 act film
No, it's a 3 act film.
Nigga you stupid
>So they must have a team spying on Cage and have decided to leave him alone for the time being.
For what reason? Stop trying to justify Marvel's lack of cohesion.
>>changing the entire tone and style of the movie is the same as an act change
The tone didn't change.
Like I said It's a "locate and defuse" kind of movie.
>Stop trying to justify Marvel's lack of cohesion.
But user, trying to find explanation to fill gap in holes i part of the fun.
It doesn't matter what they say is canon. It still won't change the fact that we'll never see the Netflix characters or Agents of SHIT in the films. It just won't happen. The Netflix characters may as well be owned by DC at this point. The chasm between Marvel TV and MCU is that wide.
I still have hope for Infinity wars.
At least you still have fanwork making stuffs like this:
youtube.com
This is useful but dangerous information. Dangerous for my future browsing habits.
Verifying will take me to places on the internt which I am half-scared and half-thrilled to visit.
>Luke is more of a Slut
Luke is a huge slut, it actually kinda makes me like him less.
no he fucking wasn't
Well he gets arrested at the end so Tony doesn't need to do anything about it.
>Noir
You officially do not know what that term indicates
Nah dude they mention in one of the latest episodes of AoS that the enhanced members of SHIELD are also under the accords.
The beginning of the film is filled with mystery and moral ambiguity as Cap is forced into questioning his superiors and thrown into the morally questionable world of spying that Black Widow must escort his boy-scout ass through.
That's noir.
Then halfway through the mystery shits itself, Hydra comes out of hiding, and it becomes a standard "punch the bad guys" deal.
Fuck you
iirc the Agent Carter one shot was confirmed non-canon when she got her series.
No, it wasn't. All of the Agent Carter series take place before the One Shot.
Fuck, Season 2 of the show basically explain why Carter has a different superior in the One Shot than the ones we see in the series (they all die).
>The Netflix shows ignores the movies
But they don't though dummy
>it actually kinda makes me like him less
Lol u are mad negro
>He was in the news everywhere.
No. He was only in the news in Harlem. I don't think you guys who don't live in NYC understand just how vast the city is.
>having a mystery subplot automatically makes something noir
Moral ambiguity and cynicism, two things which permeated the first half of the movie, define noir.
It's more influenced by the political thrillers of the 70's then it is the Noir movies of the 40s/50s.
Granted, but the point is that it drops that influence far too early which is to the movie's detriment. The first act promises a level of quality the rest of the film does not deliver on.
>Granted, but the point is that it drops that influence far too early which is to the movie's detriment.
Dude, many James Bond movie does the exact same thing.
It's a spy action movie. there is nothing wrong with the way it is structured.
>The first act promises a level of quality the rest of the film does not deliver on.
But it does deliver.