Are virgin in 20s worse degenerates than fags?

>26yo touchless virgin
>masturbate like twice a week to vanilla softcore stuff
>don't bother anyone with my existence
>people still get mad at me on the internet

jesusfag, pls go and stay go!

>26yo touchless virgin
>touchless

Are you like, literally autistic?

Nope, didn't got diagnosed with anything and was fit enough for military some years ago and also served.

30 year old virgin here. Don't have any special powers though I don't know why.

Why? Prostitution is legal here so why not take advantage?

>Tipping a whore
Is that even a thing?

Why are you a virgin?

I just haven't found the right one yet :^)

I'm scared

>never befriended any girls
>don't know any
>no friends

Scared of what? I visit the brothel all the time so ask away

Scared of woman obviously

>don't bother anyone with my existence

Oh really? So you don't contribute to Europe's demographic crisis at all? You're the innocent little snowflake who harmed no one or nothing?

Face it, Hans. People like you are part of the problem. And until you show some initiative or capacity to actually start a family and raise real German kids, then people are going to look down on you. As they should, if you ask me.

Get it together and go out there and try to start a family before your countrymen are replaced with mudshits in 1-2 generations.

>fucking before your 20

Found the degenerate

>I visit the brothel all the time

Not having sex doesn't make you degenerate. Being degenerate makes you degenerate.

No, there is more to this life than sex, You need to grow up

If you are really scared then dont go it for sex right away and pick the massage option. Once youve been rubbed down/blown and jacked off by a few women you will learn to relax

I don't know how this works US bro, i'm not capable of relationships

Whats disgusting?

>Neither of you would know what they're doing
Sex isn't some experimental rocket surgery. The entire animal kingdom (except asexual reproduction) has been doing it for millions of years

I lived in Germany and you can talk all the shit you want but this is more common than you might imagine, men are cucks there, there's something in the air that makes them cucks, maybe it's their past or the rampant feminism and political correctness.

Do you want advice or don't you care?

I don't care about being a virgin .Affection is more valuable than sex

virginity makes you less degenerate not more
not that Cred Forums is intelligent enough to recognize this...

Is getting a blowjob/cumming on my ex girlfriends butt/back count from 12th grade

I think I rather not

You are, filthy degenerate.

21, almost 22 year old virgin reporting in. The most I have done with a girl is hold her hand, that was when I was 17. I don't understand how to get into a relationship so sex is out of the question.

>tfw 19yo virgin
Should I just go for a escort, Cred Forums?

That shit basically made me think, so I tried coming up with something to explain it. Accidentally found a correlation which I think is logical enough to explain the cause. Wont copy-paste, here's an archive instead

archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/88135997/

tl;dr - evolutionary psychology

I don't know man, I just don't think i'm able to do it

How?

ffs, leave George alone

>I don't understand how to get into a relationship so sex is out of the question
Pretty much this.

Though some months ago a girl tried to trick me with the "let's meet on Saturday to work for the upcoming exams"

There's a huge fucking difference between being a 20 year old virgin and a 29 year old virgin.That said, if you can't get a girl by 23-24 you're a fucking loser

...

Same.
I fucking hate mixed messages and women are the people making it.

For all you fellas needing some advice on the psychology of women here you go

Yes virgins over 20 are degenerate. Those ugly autistic losers not be tolerated on Cred Forums they are genetic failutres.

They are also very toxic they always spam animu pedophile pics or regurgitate cringy memes they saw on /r9k/ and r/Cred Forums.

>brothel
>not massage parlor
lmao

do you realize nothing changes in your (male) body after you have sex for the first time right?

Just lost my virginity earlier to my waifu, AMA!

21 non virgin here. I have hpv and herpes. I also got the clap when i was 19. Honestly, i wish i was still a virgin

This is just about fucking sluts, I am not interested in that at all.

that feelio when i had many gfs when i was younger so im not kissless but became a hermit at 15 and haven't had one since.

t. 22 yo virgin (not kissless at least)

Lol homo
Moms are for affection
Wives are for babies
Girlfriends are degenrate

Does it count as losing your virginity if you manage to stick your dick up your own ass?

See

Kill yourself

I don't do any of that shit

im 20 year old touch less virg, i really wanna hook up with this one chick from high school who constantly had a bf, but if that doesnt work out i might go to tinder

I'm simply preserving my virginity till marriage

enjoy hell, degenerates

Degenerate is a meme. There is no degenerate atom or degenerate particles or even a degenerate definition. It is just your opinion that you cant even define.

While I do agree that he focuses on that there are some points that can be implemented into your intimate relationships.

Points 2,3, ***7 AND 8*** important as fuck learn about "shit test and comfort test" 10,11

so forever

maybe your just ugly

>Sex before marriage
>Not degenerate
Choose one.

I'm engaged. enjoy your aids.

>clean whore
That's both an oxymoron and a great way to describe most women on my campus

>Marriage
>good

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_matter

>Why the fuck would you want a virgin ? Neither of you would know what they're doing.
sex isn't that complicated
besides, being a girl's first is an amazing feel, haven't your first at the same time is even better

LOL didn't realise there were so many sad virgins on pol

>not being as degenerate

lol stop kidding yourself, you aren't a woman

just little fag boys who girls don't find attractive

>Neither of you would know what they're doing

You do realise both men and women have waited until marriage for sex for hundreds of years, right?

Don't know m8
I'm not fat, not a manlet, have not a deformed face.
Maybe its something else

>fuck experienced girl
>she just lays there and takes it

I hate women that don't try to get better at sex and just leave all the work to the man.

Why is marriage bad?

Sex is primitive

...

It's not degenerate because it's completely unequivocally 100% harmless. Do I want to be making white children? Yeah, I do, but tell white women that. They're the biggest traitors of our life time. An entire race of women that hate their own men, I've never seen anything like it.

And no I'm not using that as an excuse for why I don't fuck, I'm fully aware that I'm a schizoidal, avoidant lunatic, but at least I'm not wanking myself silly to the porn Jew or consuming hentai or any dumb shit like that. I just keep to myself and don't bother anyone.

>20+ year old virgins who refuse to settle down and get married to a girl within their league
>said virgins constantly complain about women in their 20s not getting married and starting a family

Degenerate AND dumb as fuck.

hey I'm twenty and virgin
what the fuck am I supposed to do?
Just go to a fucking hooker?

You dont know nothing about our life

Don't smoke.
Get a clean, classic look. Shirts without messages and pictures on it. Just the normal style, like tedd in HIMYM. No beard, no long hair, no metal look, no gothic look, you are not a snowflake just stop. If you are skinny don't buy stuff that is to large. Look up how to measure sizes, measure yours. Buy that size. Same if you are fat.
Start lifting at the gym. You will get fit and make friends.
If you want more friends join the freiwillige Feuerwehr.
If you want to meet girls join a classical dance school. They are always looking for men.
Don't spend to much time on Cred Forums. The redpill depresses.

This.

>I just keep to myself and don't bother anyone.

Western Civilization's famous last words.

Individualism was a huge fucking mistake. Fuck all of you people.

Prostitutes mostly are frequented by shitskins

Typical example of the autistic permavirgin toxic cuck

>leave Cred Forums
This 100x times my man, being constantly surrounded by depressive material gets to you.
That doesn't mean get together with people you have nothing in common "blue pilled" individuals.

Church possibly? Or maybe a political rally ?

Interesting stuff user. There's probably something in this, even if it isn't quite right.

virgin are not polluting the west with crazy right claims
or trying to adopt childern
fags are degenerates that should not exist

Gotta be alpha nigga

Stare a bitch straight in the eye and say "I'm that gorilla dick daddy, I make dyke pussy wet"

I do all that shit and it still didn't got me anywhere.
Dancing or putting out fires or some shit also doesn't interest me at all and I also have no time for it, fucking 50 hour work week bullshit.

>It's not as big a deal as you think it is.

This is what a life time of consuming pornography and Jew produced TV shows has lead you to believe, when really sex is a huge responsibility, the only reasonable way to conceive new life and a reproductive force millions of years in the making.

Sex is a big deal, you're just completely desensitized to it because you've been stripped of your dignity just like everyone else, and you think this state of being is normal.

>"I'm that gorilla dick daddy, I make dyke pussy wet"
kek.

>Castity
>Degeneracy
Nice meme.

They're only degenerates if they watch anime and fap to 2D "girls", spend all day shitposting and watching porn movies

>e
because acting like a cuck won't get you women, that list is literally what gym austist m'lady tier men do

Its actually pathetic reading this euphoric bullshit like it was the 1800s from deluded christfags.

Yes. You're actually supposed to get married at age 13 and start saving up money and working. You're not supposed to be in school doing coloring assignments for "calculus". It's not natural to have all these 20-30 year old virgins running around. That's not how it's supposed to be.

Yes.

t. diagnosed autism

Just go out and meet people. And talk and ask questions.

gypsies like you know better.

Dressing normal and working out 4 times per week?

There must be, since that basically creates a fully logical model for why asocial behavior even exists. I can't really come up with any other explanation, other than "mutation in psychology" which I doubt is the case as its so much prevalent in modern people and follows predictable trends.

Take phobias for an example, specifically the ones like fear of heights and depths. It's more than obvious that we evolved those completely illogical fears so we don't endanger ourselves by climbing high stuff or going deep and drowning. So shouldn't the exact same model also apply for asocial behavior and social phobia, and it being an illogical fear of a dangerous event that occurs in social hotspots?

Lmfao

People then think I have hidden motives and just fuck off

>Church possibly?
The west really needs something to take the role of church, now most people don't believe in god properly. There seems to be a lack of something to bring people in a community together like church used to.

If you're a virgin above the age of 22 you should kill yourself.

t. 25 year old virgin

such a pathetic excuse

you are literally crowder level

Why? Give me one good reason to kill myself.

If you are virgin/neet in your 20's just make everyone a favor and kill yourself.

What if i'm a 26yo virgin with a job?

Its ok bro. Im going on 27 this month and im still a virgin. Wizardry draws near.

yea sure might aswell shut down Cred Forums ..

Chad genetics 27 yr old virgin here

if ur virgin at a late age in this day and age dont even sweat it, our society is fucked and the dating marketplace is an absolute pit of ass. If you aren't a part of it then thats probably the logical choice at this point.

Yes the Church acted as a great unifying force and encouraged traditional gender roles and breeding

wow that truly is a disgrace

I bet you make fun of "numales" as well don't you

I bet every time you see a chad you want to go on a shooting rampage

25 year old second generation immigrant here.
I haven't had any female interaction for two years. Never been in a relationship.
My job simply doesn't allow it, being a male dominated field.
I've been on dates and shit, but never more than one. Attractive with a bad personality.
With all women around either being incredibly loose or having children, I'm not too motivated to pursue a relationship anyway.
As a result though, my checking account is fat. Finished college with no debt.

>i'm bad at it
>blame the game not myself

ok

Then go get married.

Same but I'm 19. My morality and faith keeps me from banging women since in this day and age it's quite easy

>implying ive ever even tried

You sound pretty fucking virgin yourself by the try-hardness. I will bet most of the reeee- and animu posters are doing it for shits and bantz meanwhile you can take a good bet actual virgins are the holier-than-thou people reeking of inferiority complex. Not that being a virgin is awfully wrong, just don't project it on others.

>29
>70 - 90 hour work weeks
> literally 0 romantic experience or knowledge

Welp.

Don't I need a woman for that?

There are no Chad virgins nigger.

/almost22/ here

EVEN THOUGH I CAN, BY LUCK, FIND A GF, I DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO BRING HER OVER.

not even mentioning she would instantly understand my amateur behaviour when my autism starts kicking due to virginity in 22.

Is it bad that I actually care who I´d want to fuck and don´t give in to all that animalistic shit most women are into?

Don´t get me wrong, have friends, doing academia and a decent social life, but random sex feels like wasting time to me.

I see people dogging friends because of a hook-up or people going to parties enjoying fuckall of it, having their mind set on finding the next best pussy. All the effort seems worthless for a bit of fucking.

I just hold people to high standards and wouldn´t stick my dick in it if everything she says is utter shit.

21, virg.

Yea exactly... the fact that its so easy makes me not want to be a part of it.

Plenty of women around your age looking for a husband out there.

youd eat those words if you saw me

>implying

>Plenty of women with kids

Fixed

It's fucked so badly... I got called handsome by a married 25yo co-worker with a kid at my first job... till she eventually blurted out, "wanna get high and have sex??!?!" right in front of a couple other co-workers.

I just said, "nah, I don't like weed much."

husband comes in to see her every day.

look at his facebook profile. not bad looking guy. kinda ripped.

"baby i love you so much. you and my daughter mean THE WORLD to me."

TOP FUCKING KEK

Faggot

Thank fuck i'm not the only one! Heaven knows that some of these women that imply wanting to have sex with me(specially since starting college) I would love to in order to please my animalistic nature but no and my conscience of being a virgin, but I just can't push myself to do it

Seriously starting to think of joining a Mormon church....

>so easy that i don't want to do it
>hasn't done it
>claims it's easy

how would you know you virgin scum

Virgin shaming is degenerate. I lost my virginity at 14; however, I have the utmost respect for people who choose to remain celibate until marriage or while pursuing basic foundations of life; which, after achieving, can lead to family.

If, on the other hand, youre a 22 year old gamma or omega, lul.

AANNNNNNDDDDDDDDDD that's when I became a NEET loser fagit

all is losht

why is that greeks always sound like angry as fuck faggots who are about to explode?

no male in their early 20's would choose to be one if given the choice in private

it's just a convenient excuse for ugly genetic failures with various forms of social communication disorders

Why are you a virgin tho? Are you some kind of Tim Tebow-tier guy?

Yes.

Thanks for reminding me, friend

why do you care so much? you sound butthurt because a bunch of virgins, i really don't understand.

>couldn't get laid
>advocate for church to justify
>feels better than those degenerate non-virgins
Nice LARPing christfag

Right there with you... it honestly disgusts me. I value my dick too much to let these whores hop on it.

Fuck you man it's a curse being a 20+ virgin in the 21st century.

Depends on why. A good friend of mine (23) is a virgin by choice. He wants a girl who is a virgin and says he can't expect a virgin girl if he isn't one. He's had a number of opportunities to lose it and chose not to.

because virgins trying to call their social disability something that it isn't annoy me

admit your failures, take responsibility for yor actions like a real man

that's probably why your a virgin, it goes hand in hand with brooding narcissism "heh Stacey won't sleep with me well that's her loss, she doesn't know what she is missing"

Isn't tim tebow gay , i dont know what his deal is. My motivations arent religious, just moral

I refuse to be a participant in and a propagator of the current sexual marketplace

Found the guy no girls liked

for you as a virgin your cock is nothing more than a straw you piss through, I bet you fap to 2d anime as well

You'd be amazed how many good-looking virgins exist. Just look at most PUA seminars, the rooms are usually full of perfectly normal males.

The reason for why they actually are virgin is not their looks but rather their behavior - or what's hardcoded in them. If you spend enough time around them, you'll start noticing that those people tend to have some kind of a social psychological dysfunction that makes them weird to such an extent that they actually become unattractive.

Stuff like stuttering like a turbobeta when approaching a girl, hands shaking uncontrollably, loss of balance when walking next to one, so on. On the other hand, they are perfectly social with males.
This is not any childhood trauma of rejection, it's actually evolutionary psychology in action.

Yes it's easy. I'm an 8/10 guy so women show interest in me and always imply wanting to date / have sex

I'm a virgin out of my own will, I agree with the church on virgin until marriage (look at the statistics).
I advocate for the church and especially now due to my understanding of Mormonism because they do a good job of keeping woman as virgins.

>"heh Stacey won't sleep with me well that's her loss, she doesn't know what she is missing"
But this is exactly how chad thinks

But why is it a failure?

Sex is useless besides the recreational use except you want to make a child, which is an utterly stupid idea in anyones 20s.

Of course shifting the blame on others is an autistic thing to do, but why get triggered by other people having no sex?

Nah, i do nofap/noporn so that I can have more energy for the gym

For those virgins in their 20s here's a pice of advice. Go see a few hookers. Once you've felt breasts, pussy and unloaded your man juice on a whore's face you won't feel that scared about approaching other girls since they will be most likely less hot than the hookers.

i want to see your photo.

Words from a true loser

not every human male is supposed to pass on their genes... its a fact, there is no point in shaming someone for having bad genes

STOP THINKING ABOUT IT IF YOU ARE A VIRGIN

Its fucking wasted energy and it does
NOT
MATTER

Are you all seriously worried about some god damn trend adopted from bullshit like American Pie.

You'll get laid when you get laid, its gonna 'boost' you for 1 week, after that its all just a thing that you remember vaguely and not some fucking status that YOU yourself make it out to be.

i'm triggered by people claiming to have no interest in what is factually proven to be the number 1 driver for men in life

>"heh, look at these chumps chasing pussy, more time for me to level up on world of warcraft, I have no interest in the trifles of mere mortals"

>

me too, porn and fapping is degenerate, real sex with girls isn't (long term girlfriend in this case), it has demonstrably been shown to increase testosterone when in moderation

why not prostitutes?

can we have a prostitute general to help our bros out?

Fucking idiot.

>you'd be surprised how many good-looking virgins exist
>evolutionary psychology in action cuz they can't talk right cuz social behavior in human beings has been fucked for everyone cuz the fucking internet

It's not that I have no interest in sex.. i think about sex daily, its just that my disgust outweighs my interest

This. I'm one of those, 25yo virgin, fairly attractive and fit but socially retarded; everyone tells me I come off as a very serious man and sometimes even rude, eventho I'm not even trying. Also I can't do small talk, it annoys me to no extend and then I have only two choices: be boring as fuck or get philosophical and factual, which everyone seems to hate.

>no u
Oh ok, if you say so insecure fatty.

I think ur mad af lmao

Did I hit some nerve of insecurity?

I always wondered about that. Sex in moderation increases test? What is moderation like 1-2x a week?

maybe you are gay then? you should try holding hands with your bff see if that triggers your weenie

Everybody has interest in it, there is no denying that. Same with it being the driving factor for every species i guess.

But people have different outlooks on it since the evolution of intellect and society made us not dependant on mass breeding.

I agree with the greentext tho. that kind of thinking is, indeed, autistic as fuck.

Agreed 100%
Also what's the point of having a girlfriend if the ultimate goal isn't marriage and procreation ? IF I don't see that woman as wife material (basics) wanting/caring for a child, likes cooking etc. then I wouldn't date her

Nah, Tebow ain't a fag, just a very traditional guy who wants to wait until marriage.

I wanna get laid so bad but I respect men like him.

Sex is fine. I would like to have sex, and I've had multiple chances to do so. I just don't want to have sex with a degenerate slut. Back in high school I had the hottest chicks wanting to bang me, trying to get my attention, but I knew they were fucking sluts. Eventually any time they were around me they'd just stare with this look of contempt like you can't imagine. It's not even the disinterest in a male they're creeped out by. It's sheer unadulterated hatred because you won't dick them.

4 u

Nah. That post was just pure sperg out

All women are sluts if you think about it.

just work a job save up and pay someone
?

Don't get philosophical with women. They won't understand if you first meet them and you start talking all of that, do that when you're in a relationship or in the talking phase so she sees you as this all intelligent being (they find it attractive)

Also boring as fuck, loosen up a bit but don't let them manipulate you

OK sorry for being mean, when you are a virgin I know the worst thing is to be made fun of and i'm not a mean guy at heart

and I was probably exactly the same before I got laid

When you get laid for the first time, something will happen: Women will be smashed off of that pedestal very hard, right now you probably all give them way too much respect and can't relate to them very well, once you realise they piss shit and fuck like you do, it will change your perspective and you will stop being a beta around women

come on, every one enjoys sex and I know you virgins want that tang, but once you have done it once it will remove a kind of veil from the idea of a woman

after that it is all easy do whatever you want

>implying shitskins have enough money for a brothel

do you even know how much a drink in brothel cost, think twice you poorfag

if you aren't in it for marriage or procreation then I guess you are in it for the human/female company, something every body can enjoy, personally I think you should always be scoping out for a future mother and lifetime companion

yup, ive had girls cry cause i wouldnt let them fuck me, stupid stuff like that just makes me iffy about the whole hookup culture, somethings not right out there.

yo momma is the ugly genetic failures
I would kill and eat people like you ,cunt

I've been thinking about that. Just fuck to get it over with..... Not sure however

People who have sex outside marriage are literally damned

Enjoy being assfucked by niggerdemons in hell, sinner

I work at McDonalds and volunteer at a school, I'm trying to become a teacher.

Why would you even be a virgin in your twenties? Do you mean like the people in those muslim countries where you get killed if you get caught having sex before you're married?

But if it's not marriage and procreation the end goal then where do you draw the line in a girlfriend relationship ? It's wasted time if it doesn't lead to what I mentioned above

I do not even want to be a virgin in my mid 20s.
But what the fuck can I do about it?
Rape is wrong and girls do not feel attracted to me. There is literally no more options left.

I fucked like 20 hookers but never had a GF or casuel sex.

Am i still a virgin? Only fucked with condom so far.

Anyone who has sex outside marriage is literally no better than a nigger

waiting until marriage seems like an interesting concept.. i dont know if I will do it.

whats really important though is what you do in the meantime.. will you better yourself or not..

if your main goal is just to get laid there are tons of resources on plebbit that can help you

found the 140lb school shooter

>Cred Forums claims to be a christcuck board
>demonizes virgins
kek

Triggered

Im fine with you holding that belief, as long as you don't downtalk others like they are degenerate and 'lost' for having done it outside marriage, just to project like so many others being a virgin at late age and feigns because 'religious' and thus above everyone else morally.

>Why the fuck would you want a virgin ? Neither of you would know what they're doing.

When will this Jew meme die

Sex doesn't require knowledge, otherwise niggers couldn't do it

i love how all the beta virgin wizards always claim to have the hottest ho's clawing at their heels while they stride over their desperate grasp

10/10 autistic delusion

what line?

depends what you class as wasted time I highly doubt you are so productive that you can't spare a little of your time for fun with the ladies, that's like saying there is no point in playing a game unless you are going to complete it

what do i get for reaching wizard status?

>after that it is all easy

This. Just get laid and you'll never have issues finding casual sex or getting with a girl who's gf material ever again.

Steven crowder get off /pol

30 here, had sex a bunch when I was 16 and that's been it. My libido completely disappeared about 10 years ago and for some reason hasn't come back. Gotta be some kind of medical explanation for it

The problem is that you're socially "stifled" - you're trying too hard to perform and end up quiet and serious. It's a MASSIVE turnoff for women to notice that a male is stifled in any situation. It's a social suicide for a female to go out with a boring and stifled male. She won't even be able to show you off to her friends out of shame. Yes, that's the sole reason why they're not going out with you.

Sucks, but that's how society functions. My two cents? Stop caring. Just live your life, be beneficial to humanity, and never think of sex again. You'll actually outperform most people in life and end up far more successful. But that's only going to happen if you get your shit together and stop thinking that you NEED to get laid, which probably wont happen and you'll revert to a form of pathetic self-pity

If you're still a virgin in your 20s why don't you just get drunk and go to a bar? Or at worst just pay for it? Once it's over and done with it's a huge weight off your back.

kek

whats your diet

>be ugly, which makes me awkward

That's it.
I'll die alone all my life and always be a virgin. I never bother anyone but no one ever wants to be with me. What else can I do.

>waiting until marriage
Who the fuck does that? Is it just an excuse for being a sperg?
Sex is fun, if you love the other person it's super enjoyable for both of you. If you can't get laid in your late twenties you are failiure, literally every single one of your ancestors up to bacteria managed to get laid. Think about how much of an embaressment for your family tree you are.

confirmed fact, if they wouldn't introduce you to friends and family you will never get a quality girl

Yes that's what i'm saying if you can never picture marrying the girl you are dating it's a waste of time and emotion

It's best to change someone's opinion on a subject being positive and working in the best interest of the individual. I don't hate them but I wish to convey the message of the consequences sex outside of marriage has (statistics on divorce and premarriage partners)

"I can't listen to your position if I think you hate me"

Are you implying I have never been drunk at a bar before? I went to university for three years and did that multiple times a week the first year.

>tfw 22y/o KHV
please stop reminding me tb.h

>mfw both
Couldn't care less t b h. I would like to get married to some non-deformed virgin girl but this is clearly not happening.

amsterdam and 50 euros motherfucker

Arch Linux tome of magical keks, but you must hold till you're 30

I was a virgin til 22, first time i had sex the rubber split and the girl got prreggers, neither of us wanted a reelationship, was supposed to just be some fun, havent had sex since. 34 now.

Join niche scenes.

Trust me, just look around you (especially in urban areas) you will see the most fucked up people with Girlfriends/wives.

Try to find a rather niche interest/hobby, commit to it if you like it and you will find woman equally as desperate falling for you.

what do u mean by evolutionary psychology?
we are genetic dead ends?

No. We just have souls and shit's fucked.

Like really really fucked.

People are dead inside.

I lost it when I was 15. Getting women to fuck you easy. I'm 24 now and I have to marriage and serious relationships what you virgins have to women and getting laid the first time it's like chasing a unicorn

> Not being overly promiscuous.
> Degnerate

pick one

there is a filter on this board...

What stopped you then? I'm by no means a stud but when I'm drunk it just happens. Though the trouble is I need to get drunk to pull but I have trouble getting it up when I'm drunk. We're all degenerates here.

but i want to
I want to have a family
I want to have hobbies
I want to have many sex
I want to be happy as normies

why me??

ya this describes me. I dont think im degenerate though.

What do you mean what stopped me? It just never happened ever, you make it sound like it just happens by doing that.

Was it like a gay club, or what? Just take a girl home. It's not rocket science.

that applies to women only faggot,

>women should know their natural place in the order
>men and women are the same

not an argument

Underrated link

No, I have never been to a gay club and it was dozens of different clubs and pubs, I had two scholarships in my first year at university so I had a lot of money to blow on partying.

> Turning 20 next week
> TFW lost my v-card less than a month ago

That was a close one guys, I almost made it to my 20s as a virgin.

you like the idea of it.

if you actually wanted too then you would have done it

Also "Just take a girl home" says nothing.

>so I had a lot of money to blow on partying.

And it never crossed your mind to approach girls, dance with them and invite them to a bottle of beer (or get yourself invited to one)?

actually, that is how it happens

if you partied for 3 years in uni and didn't then sorry but you must be beyond hideous

Where did you go to uni lad and what did you study?

Ask out all the girls you know.

There is a reason. Don't just think 'oh I'm unlucky'...shit will only drag with that mentality. Identify the problem and deal with it. I know it's annoying...I was one of the last in my group to lose it (I was 18/19). Is it a confidence issue or looks?

Voluntary celibacy, for the purpose of either purity in marriage or to engage in higher pursuits, is noble. Celibacy for any other reason is not. Most virgins in their 20s and beyond aren't that way because they're devoted ascetics devoted to philosophy or science, 99% of them have jerked off to porn more degenerate than anything they could ever do or witness in real life. The average permavirgins is more fucked in the head by corrupt sexuality than the average lecher.

Because he is autistic and extremly anxious or has too high standard, or both.
If you really want to fuck you can do it in a week, unless you have some crippling disease.

Anyway there is nothing wrong with being virgin, just don't try to make it appear as some sort of virtue if you're a guy.

Harsh lad but true. I'm a big nosed fuck but still got me some in Sheffield.

yea a big nose won't stop you haha

everyone I know that partied constantly in uni but didn't get laid was severely unattractive

however you also see fuck ugly people with experience getting the tang, it's a matter of confidence and not acting like a sperg

the number of age 25+ virgins has probably skyrocketed in the last two decades

Thats right! Mainly what I'm trying to say is, many only use Christianity opportunistically because they are celibate anyway (not by choice) and wants to project that bitterness and jealousy onto everyone else so they are not suffering alone.

>partied
>when you spent most of your life in countryside

>worse degenerates than fags

muh Ernst Rohm + Jack Donovan redpilling more men in the US with "The Way of Men" than all the previous extreme rightists/GOP establishment asskissers

Yes

At least someone has to fill the role of social outcasts in society. So in case a major catastrophe happens, society has a backup plan and at least a part of it survives. Read this if you're interested

However, that's more of a broad description for people asocial in general, people who willingly exclude themselves from society - NEETs. If you specifically exhibit the symptoms I described in the post only towards females - shaking hands, voice crack, so on, that's another pre-built psychological trait in your brain so you don't talk and try to seduce a woman that already has a mate, and get killed for doing so.

In the ancient societies (or we for the past 200k or so years), murder was perfectly acceptable, so talking to a woman with an alpha male as her mate almost surely lead to your head getting bashed by a rock. The same can be seen in primate societies, for an example, where the alpha male holds the harem and the other males exhibit signs of beta bodylanguage around him and the females.

What happened is basically (most of) the brave men who didn't fear talking to a woman and didn't get a fucking panic attack for doing so most likely got killed. The remainder of them, those who didn't do the risky act of talking to a female, managed to live on and reproduce. They had a genetic mutation in their brain, a gene that made them terrified from speaking up to a female the moment they feel horny, and they passed it on to their kids.

Basically, you're one of those kids.

Sure, I spent a lot of money doing just that but it never went anywhere.

Well I'm not exactly George Clooney but I am not deformed either. I've never suffered with stuff like acne etc that others do either.

Why? Are you trying to figure out who I am?

I don't know any girls I am not related to anymore. I moved back home.

Probably a mix of issues.

but shit to pull that shit of you need to have all that social skills and tricks and I just cant be arsed to learn all that shitty tricks .
And I dont even have a house to bring the girl in.
School was shit, and slowly my social senses died out
people hated me because I was annoying and weird
now people dont like that I'M cold or silent and thats weird, but shit I cant reverse it.

Idk what the fuck to do

The cycle goes like this:

> 1: Socially awkward, can't get laid
> 2: Use porn as a crutch to sate your libido
> 3: Become desensitized to porn
> 4: Move on to more extreme porn
> 5: Finally get a chance to lose virginity, but fail to do so because you either A: developed no social skills to make a move or B: you can't perform because you're conditioned to respond sexually to degenerate and unrealistic situations

Repeat steps 1-5 until you either break the cycle or just fucking give up and become a wizard.

>implying I haven't lost my virginity early and regretted it later

I simply don't get how there can be men who are virgins after a certain age. Even after my hard party years, I ended up in situations where I could have gotten easy poon served on a silver platter and I'm not the best looking guy. On the contrary, I'd argue that it can be quite the challenge to stay faithful in serious relationships because getting laid is too easy today.

>yes
then fuck yourself you fucking shiteating fuckface
go die in a hole REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

If you aren't having tonnes of pre-marital sex you're a degenerate.

not an argument

Most of us are genuinely socially challenged, in a similar vein to how you are intellectually challenged.

Any girl that's a virgin in her 20s is either an autistic Landwhale or or a super religious nut job.

Just cave and look for a girl that hasn't fucked the high school football team, a few previous partners isn't going to kill you

Yea I'm not for that. You should be a Christian or even Culturally Chrisitan because you believe in what the Bible says and not just specific parts (like what you mentioned with sex before marriage)

Whenever I argue here for that I make the case with statistics against it and then show that Christianity had figured this out while ago and this piques the interest and I hope they read some other parts of the Bible with the hope of a revelation

>in a similar vein to how you are intellectually challenged.

No need for lashing out, mate. I'm just trying to understand you guys.

This

>dude benis in begina lol
the physical act is basically trivial, it's more upsetting to consider that you'll never actually form a deep, spiritual connection with a woman, and about the fact that women treat the majority of men like they're invisible, at absolute best, the vast majority of the time. that can't be beneficial for the long term survival of a society.

Tell me more? I just lost my virginity this summer and I'm turning 20 next week, and I kind of regret waiting this long, I feel like I should have locked it down two or three years ago. I I feel like I wasted my lower division years of college by being an awkward beta too paralyzed to make a move. Knowing that I will never, ever know what it's like to fuck a 16-17 year old kind of stings too, like I missed out on the experience of youthful, unrestrained sex and it's illegal for me to ever know what it's like.

Still eat shit and die faggot
all this pseudo scientifical bullshit to make yourself feel superior when you're just the same shit ,but even worse

there are girls out there that would fuck you if you acted normal around them, probably a lot of girls too

hell, they might not be attractive and could be weird but they still exist, just stop being a sperg, no one will remember your name in 100 years anyway so stop sperging out

>triggered to such levels that he HAS to revert to adhom so his ego defends his special snowflake universe where he isn't flawed

wew lad

define sperg'

sometimes I can talk with women, but not to much and I cant make myself interesting ,or escalate the situation to an invitation to a meeting(Date ) or just to fuck

Calm down man, we are what we are. I'm not a virgin because i went to a hooker when i was 22, but if i did not made that, i would be a virgin at 25, since i'm ugly manlet and sperg as fuck. If it bothers you so much, you can always see a hooker too. Don't let these thoughts destroy you even more, it's useless.

No.
What if you're saving it for marriage but haven't gotten married?
Having sex outside wedlock is degenerate, and getting married to a decent woman is pretty difficult these, user.

>tfw good looks but a massive pussy probably because lived with single mother who programmed me into being "nice" and avoid conflicts
>tfw had multiple chances for sex but avoided them out of fear / nerves

How do I break the conditioning and become a confident person? please help

virgins should seriously read this blog

boldanddetermined.com/

The worst part of being a virgin isn't missing the physical act, but rather knowing that there is a social fluency needed to reach that level of intimacy, and that you lack it to the point that you can't even form that connection with your sluttiest acquaintance. Seeing everyone else do something that seems impossible to you is painful.

I was one of the last of the guys in my friend group to lose his v-card, and I remember seeing every single one of my friends except for the palest fucking social failure in my friend group make it, and wondered what I had to do to be such a faggot that I was performing as well as that loser.

Shiieeet. Did she keep the baby?

If you can talk to women already normally, you're half-way there. All you need to do is figuring out the flirting/physicality stuff. That needs some practice (good old trial and error, we all have our fair share of crash and burn situations in the past), and you're good to go.

>selectively cherry picking lines from the bible that you can use to justify being a NEET

I'm just pointing out that it's not difficult to see why some people can't get laid

just

Step one is to stay the fuck away from /r9k/. You will become like the people you spend the most time around. When your reference level is other losers you will hold yourself to the standard of a loser. Find men who have made it, and spend any time that you can with and around them. Even if it hurts and makes you feel inadequate at first, in the long run it will be your saving grace.

I went to a respected Christian high school and practically nobody had had sex before graduating.
High school sex here is associated with the lower class schools where you get a degree for just showing up and you have immigrants in your class.

I'm the same way.

Teenage sex was stigmatized and even the girls around my area didn't want to have casual sex, but now I see the beauty of casual sex.

Go out and make a fool of yourself. Force yourself into the cringiest social interaction imaginable. Then do it again, and again.

Within a week all those thoughts that turn you into a quiet beta will be gone. It's a technique from the old pickup artist societies that used psychological tricks to unfuck themselves from how fucked up they were, and they used to call this shit "the Ironman technique".

Basically, you PROVE to your brain that it really doesn't need to be afraid of social interaction and that you aren't actually going to die doing it. I've heard of people going as far as strapping dildos on their head and running around naked yelling arbitrary shit. The cringe-inducing habits in those people completely disappear afterwards.

>practically nobody had had sex before graduating

Yes, because Christians are known for bragging about giving in to sin. A lot of people probably fucked and kept it to themselves. Most people in my highschool didn't brag abou it either, except maybe for close friends.

One of my friends lost his virginity at 23. He would have lost it his freshman year in college but he got too nervous and lost his erection, which resulted in fucking four years of him being too nervous to make a move. It's all in your head man.

Stop pornography.

I unironically turned down two occasions in my freshman year because I had 0 attraction to 2 qt after years of femdom and other latex/leather fetishes because of porn.
I still struggle with this shit but I reduced my consumption to once every 4 or 5 days and when I have an opportunity I just go full cold turkey and become really horny around a cute face or a good pair of boobs.

If you are anxious around a girl you like you should give a try to nofap, excitation will counterbalance your fear.

I was 15 and was hanging around with the local leaf skanks, rainbow haired sjw types that can't go ten seconds without getting dick. Fucked her in public and it felt awful, she was loose and her pussy looked like it was falling apart, her butthole was covered in shit.
I fucked her friend later on and at least she was a virgin so it felt good, but she was a ham beast and a juggalo. I'm turning 19 soon and I probably have herpes already. Losing it soon is loosing it out of desperation which is degenerate.

After reading this thread, I'm left slightly confused. I'm an 18 KV and I know it won't get any better; however, while I'm used to being made fun of and outcast because of my condition, I haven't really seen anyone get angry at me for it. Why do all the non-virgins ITT seem so angry at us virgins, for doing nothing but sit here and not have sex?

>inb4 neet, uni student

I was just too much of a fag to get laid. My mom instilled this weird sexual guilt on me that I carried on, I really thought that it was disrespectful to women to think of them sexually.

When I was 17 I never even touched my girlfriend's boobs, much less fucked her, because I thought that would be objectifying her, despite the fact that she gave and recieved oral sex with her last boyfriend. Two years later she told me that she never understood why I didn't try to have sex. She was ready to go all the way, but she felt like I had a problem with sex so she never brought it up. My relationship would have lasted longer if I hadn't been brainwashed into thinking that women are these sexless beings that men have to force into sex.

Ha, 15 sounds a little young but if I had the choice I would have lost it when I was on the cusp of 16/17. I was old enough to understand what sex meant by then and want it.

That sounds pretty scary. Is that legit? I mean surely doing that would make me feel worse, I often feel about cringy experiences and it makes me feel shit.

Good call I've been trying nofap recently, stopping porn is a bit difficult because of the addiction for so many years, that's probably what made me so fucked up desu, started watching it online at 11 years old or some shit and ever since so 9 straight years. I'll try and stop watching it even though it's so enticing.

Normalfags like lashing out at those who are abnormal. Cred Forums is absolutely infested with them.

>falling for the kike memes

Same here. It's so damaging what mums can do to their sons... they just feed lies about women's nature, it's fucked. I don't blame them though.

Im such a powerful man t hat I HATE virgines ARRGH

Depends on their reasoning.

If they have the mindset of hedonism, yet are unable to attain it, they're still as degenerate as a hedonist. They're just weak and inferior; unable to reach what they desire.

I've been trying this technique and it DOES work, it's just really hard to get psyched up enough to put yourself in those situations

Every time I do it I feel great afterwards though
Hopefully the improvements will come with time

Shut up you virgin fag dengue rate!!!

I refuse the believe there are bulgarianfags like that.
No job? Okay that's common issue.
But being legit /r9k/ faggot? For Real?

How?
I'd understand some western cuck but this is not the west. It's just beyond comprehension.

>That sounds pretty scary.
That's exactly the point

>I often feel about cringy experiences and it makes me feel shit
That needs to go

A lot of the problem comes out of you thinking that you have to perform, which leads to performance anxiety.

>Every time I do it I feel great afterwards though
Exactly. What you're experiencing during those moments is minor ego death - you becoming aware that it was all your shitty ego making you perform irrationally. When you just let go, when you prove to your brain that you don't have to perform and fulfill a template your ego has given you, that's when that shit completely disappears and you suddenly turn into a social machine

Lets examine what men have to look forward to:

>get into a good college and work your ass off to do well at a complex subject, while everyone around you parties and drinks because they study "history of art" or some shit
>get a job in an office because no-one actually values your skills, it's all about being a bullshitter and everything you worked for at college is useless
>work 9 to 5 surrounded by bitchy women for shit pay
>commute for 2 hours because your wife wanted a house in the suburbs and she would leave you if you refused
>go home to your used up whore wife who fucked around in college and now wants a free ride
>spend a small amount of time with your children, who she is gradually turning against you
>eventually she decides that she is bored with you and demands you move out
>resist and the police will force you to leave and prevent you from seeing your children ever again
>move into a depressing divorced guy apartment with other men
>get fired because HR decided they wanted more diversity, or because you held a door open for a woman
>embarrassed to see your own children because you're such a failure, a fact which your wife takes care to constantly remind them of as they grow up
>turn on TV, it's women complaining about men, or gays complaining about men or transexuals complaining about men
>drink to take away the pain
>if you're lucky, you have the courage to kill yourself in front of your children next time they visit and tell them it's mummys fault

Not even MGTOW or anything, but the social contract which made marriage and work worth it for men is just non-existent now

Let's support Trumps porn ban, the shekels will immedietly dry up for the kikes.

One kike owns 99% of all internet porn, they brag about it.

Your daughters get fucked by niggers for kikes profit, while other whites masturbate to it. Cucked beyond belief.

A national no-fap would be great, increase testerone, increase birthrate, decrease faggotry.

Ever notice how lately the jews have started to push the whole "porn is nice, porn is respectable, woah reddit check out this funny pornhob commercial, lol its not a big deal goyim! porn and sexual positivity is good! now watch this nigger fist a white woman in the ass"

Obviously having random non-committed sex with whores is less degenerate than abstinence.

Wat

My mom was pretty much celibate after her divorce, she was raised in a really catholic environment and struggled with religious guilt about sex her whole life, which she passed down to be in feminist form.

It's been ten years since my parents announced their divorce, and she *finally* got a new boyfriend and she's happy (and sexually active). I'm glad for her now as an adult, I just wish that she hadn't projected all that shit into my head when I was developing.

Holy fuck this is too accurate. I couldn't perform and I thought it might have something to do with the completely degenerate filth I was watching at the time.

What's wrong with working in an office?

I lost my virginity thanks to drink driving. Probably not one to tell the grandkids.

The first time I had sex, I flopped out and couldn't finish. The same thing happened to a friend of mine. I don't know about him, but as a teen I almost exclusively fapped to lesbian porn and as a result conditioned myself to respond sexually to a scenario that I de facto could not be a participant in other than as a voyeur. I couldn't simply relate sexually to a women because I only knew how to relate to sex as a watcher of an act, rather than a person interacting with another person.

Worse actually. Once in a blue moon, you will find a faggot who is actually cool/red-pilled. I've never met a person who is an 18+ virgin and also interesting/ not obnoxious.

Ok you did it, you convinced me to pay a whore, bravo
Maybe I am 25/26 , not sure honestly, but its time to let go

Redpilled gays are more common than you think, it's just that they're less visible than the flamboyant and feminine variety, who tend to be bluepilled.

fuck off szekely shill