Why aren't you a Strasserist Cred Forums?

So tell me why paying for a loan is immoral beyond that the kikes have always done it?

Firstly, the Jews use it as one of their main forms of control. Debt slavery is a huge problem, for individuals and governments.

Secondly, it's a way of earning money without doing work and therefore contributing to the growth of a nation. A labourer makes things which can be used by others - in this way he contributes to the nation while making money. Usurers do not - they simply earn by lending money to people, rather than creating anything new.

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If I might interject, the correct way to deal with usury is to cap interest, in a way that leaves banks and corps unable to institute debt slavery but allows private citizens a little room to make additional money

As long as usury in any form remains, the Jews will use it control our governments through the international and central banks. Abolishing usury altogether is the only way to get rid of this.

Additionally, your proposal does not take into consideration the principle that money should be earned only through work of some sort, by contributing to the nation. Usury allows people to earn without contributing anything.

It destroys the value of labor and it destroys private property.

The problem here is obviously the kikes not usury.
Is charging rent on a property also imoral?ok
The best way to handle this problem is to magically make everything work the way i want it to work.

Intrest rates should be determined by the lender and the lendee.
How much are you willing to pay to have this thing today instead of tomorrow?

>Men and women have defined roles and should stick to those roles.

Those roles vary all over the world. I'm quite flexible towards gender issues really. I don't see it as particularly important.

Why not abolish jewry instead?

>mfw there are no german articles about strasserism

Whilst I agree that the value of labour should be upheld, and condemn ursury (excessive interest), I can't personally condemn those who enter into a loan that contains a clause for a little interest. In the ideal world there'd be no international or central banks, but being able to charge a small amount of interest would be what keeps small scale banks operational.

Contributing to the nation is (or at least SHOULD be) the number one means of acquiring currency though, I do agree with you.

>destroys private property
nigger please
>i have present money
>other guy wants present money
> i charge him for the service of having money now

If i do what i want with my things and you do what you want with your things, how is that destroying private property?

A state imposed cap on interest rates isn't otherworldly levels of fanciful. It would be a safety net for retards who can't handle money

>Inb4 we should let them fuck up their finances

No, beacause then they'd be a leach on the benefit system for decades

>no greed

are they gonna cut parts of human brain or what?

Not just an economic illiterate but also a cuck

>le cuck maymay

Ebin

Expulsion of jews are order of magnitudes more plausible than changing the laws of human interaction.

You are a feminist and a social democrat without the democrat part, how would you categorize yourself?

Kek I'm no feminist Sven. Social Democracy is weak and too easy for capitalism to subvert.

>Would there still be a tradional family?
Obviouslly not.

Traditional family comes from the principle that men and women are not the same

You don't need to change the way people interact. If it's impossible to abuse the system then it won't get abused

>It's also too close to Marxism in it's emphasis on the workers. While I certainly appreciate workers more than business interests, if you are too hostile to business the economy tanks.

This basically. Nazi Germany got the balance better. Too much socialism will always fail.

>women should be equal
>not feminist

yeah...

Sounds a lot like Stalinist one nation socialism.
>muh ebul greedy capitalists how dare they earn more than me just because they work harder

Hi there Saracen

because of the no-leader idea
but it's still a based ideology,like a more left version of nat-soc

Economics are laws of human interaction.
You can't reshape man, and you can't reshape the laws of economics.
Anyone who doesnt understand this is achin for a helicopter ride

It's not just the Jews, though. And they're slippery people in any case. You have to have airtight defences. Usury can allow them in.

It's massively important. Why do you think the Jews are so in favour of feminism? Because it breaks up the traditional family unit and produces antagonism between the sexes, resulting in a falling birthrate.

In an ideal we'd be able to make exceptions where we can, but it doesn't work that way. Abolishing usury altogether achieves the best effect on the nation as a whole.

You can acknowledge the differences but still acknowledge both have an equal responsibility to raise children, the modern equivalent of your traditional family would be both parents sharing home duties equally, which isn't a bad thing

Bump

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Feminism is a stupid divisive cult with no intention of equality. Obviously men and women are different. Women can still do their share of the work though. And unlike feminism I believe in morality.

>Those roles vary all over the world
Not really, only superficial things. Women look after children, men go to war. Things like that are a constant in every culture.

>I don't see it as particularly important.
It's very important. Family is the basis of any culture. One of the way the Jews are bad is because they constantly attack and undermine the traditional family. Feminism is a way of subverting it.

>Because it breaks up the traditional family unit and produces antagonism between the sexes, resulting in a falling birthrate.

I assure you that's not what I want. See

That's fair enough, reality is a bitch. Have to admit I'm curious as to how a system with 0% usury would grow though, entropy is an even bigger bitch

>le men and women are like the same dood
>but not like
lost me right there senpai

one could argue that at least 50% of the problem in the West right now arose from men and especially women having their roles, and therefore sense of purpose and belonging, stripped from them through subversive media/politics

The traditional family isn't the modern nuclear family. That was created by capitalism to create a mobile labour force. Extended families and generational living were the norm right into the 20th century.

Augusto Pinochet, Hans Herman Hoppe and Chris Cantwell are the true redpills. The recent shilling of economically leftist ideologies is /leftypol/ subversion.

proper gender roles and the family unit is the backbone of any healthy civilization.

and personally, there is nothing more attractive than a woman who aspires to be an adept mother and homemaker. I see her pride in her work as equal to my pride in my work, different doesn't mean not equal

>no greed

Lmao @ ur life

Strasser said nothing wrong.

>Augusto Pinochet
CIA globalist puppet
>Hans Herman Hoppe
Meme. Austrian economics is taken seriously by nobody.
>Chris Cantwell
Anarchist

Womens share of work is making and raising homes and babies

>both have an equal responsibility to raise children
Fuck no.

Women raise the children as housewives, while the men go out and work. This is the traditional family unit, and it works. Mess with it in any way and you end with broken relationships, high divorce rates, and falling birthrates. There's a reason the Jews promote the idea of women working and 'equal responsibilities'. The sexes should stick to their natural roles.

>I'm curious as to how a system with 0% usury would grow though
NatSoc Germany worked very well, though admittedly it didn't last very long until he war. I'm very sure that it would've continued to be a success.

>no greed
Thanks mate, gave me a good laugh.

>subversive media/politics
You misspelt 'Jews'

>being this retarded
You're still on entry-level redpill, faggot. Don't tell me what the final redpill is, because I already know it's National Socialism.

while i'm not agreeing with him, maybe he means
>who will teach timmy to shoot a gun, learn to fish, hunt, etc?
men have a minor role with sons learning to be men

but I am
the night of the long knives was a mistake

You are the reason that people laugh at NatSocs
Literal monkies have a better understanding of the universe

There's really no need for stay at home mums especially with modern technology. Women have always worked. The majority of workers around the world are women. Of course there are differences. However if a woman can contribute to the nation by working in a factory, that's fine.

dis, mane

You are ofcourse right, even though chris is a selfimportant ass

Sounds pretty gynocentric. Won't last long in a war situation. Who will work in the factories?

yes, Jews. And allllll of their puppets, i.e. clueless leftists who repeat the garbage again and again.

>There's really no need for stay at home mums especially with modern technology
so raising kids on TV? nah, we already tried that and it sucks
>Women have always worked
again, no. women have always raised children and kept up the home. it's a full-time job cooking and cleaning
>if a woman can contribute to the nation by working in a factory, that's fine.
but she can't. taking a woman out of her feminine role is akin to taking a man out of the workforce and forcing him to be a feminine homemaker. round pegs in square holes my friend.

>CIA globalist puppet
All he did for the CIA was BTFO commies which is hardly a bad thing
>Meme. Austrian economics is taken seriously by nobody.
Top cuck, enjoying giving the government money to waste on bureaucracy and handouts for lazy scum
>Anarchist
Watch his stuff, he's hardly your average anarchokiddy
>muh neetsoc is le true redpill if you aren't a fan of le hitler ur a noob
nigger I've been on this site since 2011 and I spent a good year and a half of that as a natsoc

Obviously, men play a vital role in teaching their sons, I was talking about children. Men only really take on responsibility when the son reaches around 10 years old. Before that it's mostly the mother taking care of him. The dad still teaches him stuff, but only starts in earnest later on.

its at least a lot better and a lot less autistic than nazism, but its still socalism

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>no greed

good luck

What's the difference between Strasserism and National Socialism? With Fascism? With Socialism?

yeah, seems like yet another ideology that looks great on paper, but is completely outdated. Would only work in a homogeneous population in say.. Germany around say.. the 1930's-1940's

we need some fresh ideas, that could work in the cucked up societies of today

>Modern wars will have every able bodied man on the frontlines
Is this bait

>so raising kids on TV? nah, we already tried that and it sucks

No. Grandparents and other relatives. More cohesive.

It's not a full time job cooking or cleaning any more. You're putting women on a pedestal here and infantilising them. Most sweatshops are comprised of women. In the industrial revolution millions of women flocked to the factories to work. For good reason. If you want to keep women at home go ahead. The economy will falter and you'll have useless eaters.

No more bait than your post. Funny how you can call me a feminist then believe women shouldn't contribute economically. Muslim tier tbqh.

I agree with you but wtf, are you saying you are not a fan of hitler?

Just had to make sure if you were prepared to name the Jew.

Hoppe is from the Austrian school, which is as Jewish as Marxism. Ludwig von Mises, Murray Rothbard, and Milton Friedman were all Jewish, as well as many other Austrian school economists. Take your Jew shit out of here.

Dank flag, man.

8/10 you kept me going

Strasserism is basically left wing National Socialism. That's the short answer, at least.

Sword over Hammer version.

Not at all but he's not perfect or the "ultimate" redpill.
see pic related

>no greed
This is where the ideology itself is killed.
No such thing as no greed sorry.

>kids at a young age don't need their mothers around
>it's not a full-time job raising kids, cooking wholesome meals every day, and cleaning up the house because everyone can afford the latest gadgets
the start of women in the workforce was the beginning of the end for the healthy family
ah, I see now. ok I'll stop replying, I thought you were serious

>milton friedman
>Austrian economics
cmon guy

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_school_of_economics

Nice flag desu. Hammer and sword looks badass. Good to see some Strasserists.

Socialism and nationalism go hand in hand. Capitalism is inherently globalist and leads to crap being peddled for money that doesn't help anyone.

Under capitalism, thousands of pigs had to be hired to assist strikebreakers. It costs too much, and our society is falling apart. Still, with the global population where it is, some people must die while others must live. Might as well be white people, because no other race would continue existing for very long.

Chicago is essentially an extension of Austrian.

Socialism is inherently egalitarian though

>but is completely outdated.

yeah, it was just a critique of Hitler and his nazi revolution only going half way in their socialist aspects. It also didnt go for Hitlers expansion into the east.

Interesting idea, but its mainly just a cool edgy flag for people to rally around instead of an actual good idea. I dont see why people think we need some radical new ideology to LARP. Just close the fucking boarder, stop letting in millions without any sort of vetting process. Its that easy, fuck

Not National Socialism.

no, it really isn't
chigago are big proponents of central banking and inflation aka proponents of jewish power.
Austrians are not

>kids at a young age don't need their mothers around
>>it's not a full-time job raising kids, cooking wholesome meals every day, and cleaning up the house because everyone can afford the latest gadgets
>the start of women in the workforce was the beginning of the end for the healthy family

Where did I say they don't need mothers? Parents can take time out of work for their kids if they wish. However that shouldn't be a permanent option. Unemployed single mothers are useless. With a proper reorganisation of the economy people could spend more time at home.

If you think women working is bad then blame capitalism. In all capitalist countries women are fully integrated into the workforce. Whether as office workers in the first world or farm workers in the third world.

That does not change what I said

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>Socialism and nationalism go hand in hand.

to a certain degree, yes. But a lot of them are just communist, which is a globalist ideology. Capitalism, when left with no restrains, is globalist, because it is completely a political. It doesnt care about nationalism, or religion, or race, or any of that bullshit. Just about making money.

Even fucking Bernie Sanders realized this

youtube.com/watch?v=vf-k6qOfXz0

Strasserists, please riddle me this. How the fuck are you gonna create a Nationalist, Socialist, work-oriented society when what you have to work with is lazy niggers and NEETs?

> I dont see why people think we need some radical new ideology to LARP. Just close the fucking boarder, stop letting in millions without any sort of vetting process. Its that easy, fuck
well you just named one good idea. With a few more added, we have the beginning of an ideology. I didn't mean with an edgy flag or anything, just a set of ideals we agree on. It seems like a lot of people on this board agree only in part with a wide variety of ideas

I wasn't talking about single mothers you dipshit, a wife's place is at home and a man's is at work. end of story

They're both ultimately individualist and for limited government interference, which I get, but it lets the Jews subvert your people. You need an authoritarian state to prevent the subversion of your people and keep out the Jews.

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>ezra klein

What's with authoritarians and the color black?

Also, friendly reminder that the original Falange mixed Traditionalism with National Syndicalism.

>a wife's place is at home and a man's is at work. end of story

You've been watching too much 1950s TV for housewives. Maybe you should move to Saudi Arabia? Backwards in every way and with a potemkin village economy but hey, at least you can have your ideal 1953 life.

True. Franco was a capitalist traitor.

Anarchist flags have black on them too. It looks edgier I guess.

>Backwards

>>>>>>>>>plebbit

Giving women power in society leads to a effeminate culture.

well the nazi flag and even the strasser flag were red, black, and white because those were the colors of the German Empire flag. If it had happened in America, it would be Red, White and Blue

but since the end of WW2, and even during it, nazis served as great comic book style villains, So bad guys in video games, or cartoons, or whatever, usually had black+red symbols/uniforms to sort of mirror the aesthetics of nazism and it became a go to edgy color scheme for any sort of edgy belief since then.

Better than the alternative for sure, but it's a shame Spain didn't end up with Primo de Rivera.

You don't have to give them power. In a Strasserist society power would be directed towards the betterment of the people and nation. Whatever it takes. No quotas or affirmative action shit.

>to work with is lazy niggers

Nah m8, in strasserism different peoples live separated and would be preserved.

There could be many forms of cooperation, of course, but the main resposible for the blacks would be the blacks themselves. Same thing for whites.

Yes, they are both proponents "free markets", in that you are right

Are we not living in authoritarian states you and i?
Are they not telling us what to do, what to believe, how to live?
I would much prefer your society to the one we live in now but I don't necessarily think we need a strong man telling us what to do. In a free society were your actions have unforgiving and acute consequenses we would fare much better both on a cultural and economic level.

I would urge you, if you have not, to read democracy the god that failed.
It really really made me ponder

>There could be many forms of cooperation, of course, but the main resposible for the blacks would be the blacks themselves. Same thing for whites.

This desu. Self sufficiency, homogeneous societies and autarky are key to Strasserism.

>Are we not living in authoritarian states you and i?
Any authoritarian state that isn't NatSoc is bad.

My preferences go like this:
>NatSoc authoritarian
>Individualist
>non-NatSoc authoritarian

>I don't necessarily think we need a strong man telling us what to do.
You do need a leader who will make sure the Jews are kept out. In a 'free society' as you put it, the Jews find it easy to control things.

I posted some red flags too tbqh

The one with the hammer is from an old socialist/communist party from sweden that, with the time, adopted a nationalist perspective.

>people actually defending usury
holy hell theres more jews in this board than i thought

>Individualism isn't a coherent political system in and of itself. Unless you mean individualist anarchism in which case lol go read some hobbes.

I wonder how many people realise it used to banned for a reason.

These flags are great. Did you make them Brazilbro?

>You do need a leader who will make sure the Jews are kept out. In a 'free society' as you put it, the Jews find it easy to control things.

This was my last threshold before abandoning socialism.
I would really urge you to give hoppe a read, if only for his brutal dissection of democracy.
It's mostly the last 6-7 chapters that deals with anarchism and if you dont wanna read it then dont but he makes some solid arguments, mostly on the bad incentives and cultural decay that socialism inevitably brings.

Im gonna go and have a beer now, it was good talking to you

1488
hell seger

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No.

some are from wikipedia, i found while i was searching for fascism, national socialism, and political aesthetics of that time.

others are from deviantart.

you occasionaly find nice stuff in vexillology reddit, sites etc.

oldfag here

everyone itt is young and dumb.
i grew up in fascism, it sucked. moved to america at age 19 with literally nothing, built a business, sold it 35 years later to retire home. free, open markets and society are good

saudi arabia is actually not that bad
you should have used some other example

I'm no Bolshevik desu?

>saudi arabia isnt actually that bad
it's theocratic north korea with oil

No, you didn't.

Most of Franco government (specially later) was much closer to the model of latin american military governments than actual falangism or even fascism.

Good post gramps.
Thats the reason why I think all this LARPers worshipping natsoc are underage or some sheltered fuccbois that need some big guy to tell them what to do and how to live, otherwise they are incapable of any effort, they just want fashy handouts.

Because

>men and women are not equal
>"workers" are not equal
>egalitarianism is incompatible with modern efficient industry

Egalitarianism is cancer and any ideology based on it is not redpilled.

Hitler and Goebbels were depressed NEETs once

maybe, but if Im going to look up to some socalistic populist, Im going to look up to someone who actually got shit done

>fashy handouts.
No handouts in Fascism or NatSoc m8.

Bump 4 fun.

>read image

So like BLM?

>I didn't mean with an edgy flag or anything

Whats the fucking point? Ideology without edgy flags, cool uniforms and powerful tunes is boring.

this.

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